/who/ - Doctor Who General

it might not be the same entity. maybe there's multiple on that planet. that or it evolved. it was stealing people's voices in the original to learn.

Long time no see, cunts. Have any of you watched S15 so far? Is it any better than S14?

Robot Revolution is a much better season opener than Space Babies. But still suffers from modern Russel doing Russel things, especially near the end on top of some pacing issues. 6 out of ten 10 depending how generous I feel
Lux is this seasons The Devil's Chord. You either like it, or dislike it. But even then like Devil's Chord there's some creative choices that are hard to look past. Pajeeta Pits out of 10
The Well's the latest episode and it's again one of those you'll either like, or hate. Try not to think about too much. Personally 5-6 out of 10 for me and looking at it as a sequel, I feel like I should put it lower.
Next week's Episode 4 and we'll be half way through the season. I'd say just hold off until Episode 6 airs, binge everything then join in for the shitposting of the final 2 episodes.

BOOBY CUMDAY

Yeah, that really does sum it up

I prefer S14 at this point.

even IGN is shitting on it

And they'll like anything. Ouch.

I've been watching Fifth Doctor episodes instead of the new season. It's much more enjoyable

I decided to watch some of Mr Tardis's reviews for last season out of sheer boredom/ morbid curiosity. He shits on Russell more than I expected, but watching him desperately trying to complain about things without being a heckin bigot is very funny.

I'm just glad it didn't ruin the original or give too much away. I'm not sure it fully justified itself as a sequel or needed to exist, could of just as easily been its own thing but I still had a good time with it. Obviously doesn't compare with the original but very few episodes do. I'm kinda glad they didn't repeat the repeating so it at least felt kinda fresh. This season as a whole has been stellar so far, I just don't think this ep needed to be a midnight sequel. Kinda gives vibes of Russell maybe not trusting the story by itself and feeling he needs to go "Remember this when the show was more popular?"

a 5 from IGN of all places

ouch

I'm halfway through Tom Baker myself.
Currently on The Sun Makers, which is the only politically-minded Who I condone on grounds that it's just funny business.

Behind the scenes look at the Well’s monster curtsey of Unleashed

You know, if you don't like RTD2, there's a lovely alternative.

Let me guess

Ncuti is perfect for the role and full of charisma, but the writing doesn't give him much to do

Remember this?
whogen.miraheze.org/wiki/
no I haven't got the link to the old wiki

Ncuti is bad for the role but not because he's black, he's just not very good at what RTD is trying to sell the audience. Most other nuwho Doctors could elevate the material by being 100% completely earnest about it, even if it doesn't make a lick of sense. Ncuti is acting like he's in a serious slowburn drama which it isn't.

The political statements back then never went further than a general old school liberalism. Sure you had women's lib characters like Sarah Jane but they still always needed saving by men at the end of the day.

It helped that the writer pool was more diverse (ironically) - Terrence Dicks and Malcolm Hulke for example were on opposite ends of the political spectrum but they still made great stuff together (and were good friends IRL). The writing was more nuanced too, Hulke himself was a literal, card carrying Communist but still wrote a story with a communist villain.

I suspect that the co-writer originally had this as its own script and then russel came in and said BUT WOT IF IT WAS MIDNIGHT and that's why it's co-written
you could remove all the references to Midnight and absolutely nothing would change. In fact it would only improve because apparently everyone forgot that when the Doctor left Midnight last time he had them cordon off the whole planet as a complete no-go zone

Don't worry, the upcoming audio kino by Big Finish will keep the brand ticking over during the next hiatus.

It's mostly

Russell is old and tired, the show desperately needs new blood

Instead of the more accurate

Russell is a demented faggot who's actively making shit to piss off fans

Ncuti is acting like he's in a serious slowburn drama which it isn't.

Is he now?

wiki entry for Pozz says RTD actually isn't pozzed

lol

I genuinely cannot tell if this is satire

Classic Who

Taxes are bad and so are Nazis

Nu Who

Trans women are fucking valid and white men are evil

Doctor Who has always been political

Communists love to complain that other communists are doing communism wrong

I see the viewership is still utterly terrible, even after they added all the iplayer viewership too. So is this gonna be the final season?

This one of the episode where he's good. He's not all terrible.

if that's r/gallifrey then don't worry, most of that is performative

Most other nuwho Doctors could elevate the material by being 100% completely earnest about it, even if it doesn't make a lick of sense. Ncuti is acting like he's in a serious slowburn drama which it isn't.

am i retarded or are you contradicting yourself here immediately?

That’s true of most classic sci-fi. The plot may be ridiculous and goofy. But the actors could sell it like the rent was due.

It might be my bad. What I meant is that Ncuti's one dimensional and always acts like he's above it or on a different plane altogether, while Tennant for example could slide in every story, no matter how ridiculous or serious it was.

I see this every week on Reddit or X. This show is now made entirely for people who think Space Babies was an 8.5/10 and overhype every episode to the point of parody. I doubt they actually believe it, but they have to say it publicly to renew some interest in the show. “This week’s Doctor Who is a return to form!” etc etc

So blackman just happens to have the outfits for space basejumping? And the doc doesnt fucking KNOW theyre for spacey basejumping. I cant remember an episode with this crap from tenant or after.

I honestly didn’t believe he’d go there. A Midnight sequel 17 years after the original is the most damning proof yet that RTD is washed. It supports my theory that he knows the show is circling the drain and is now just cashing in the Disney bucks before retirement. Most of his scripts so far have been unused stories from 15 years ago (Dot and Bubble) and outright rehashes (Lux = From Out of the Rain but done worse, and now Midnight).

,000 years in the future.

>People are still deaf and it's not cured

>>"A nurse who can't sign? That's against the law."

God i hate this new era so much

that's from the preview for the booby sunday episode, you only get very vague glimpses of the Midnight monster

This episode gives light to the rumor that the 2008 Midnight episode was ghostwritten by someone else

There’s a non-zero chance that Episode 6 (“the most expensive episode ever”) doesn’t get shown on British television because it’s between football and Eurovision.

Wouldn’t be too surprised even back in 2008 Midnight felt too good to be a Russel script.
Not that I think the original is the masterpiece of Nuwho like some claim. It’s just the script and concept was something way better than anything to come from Russel

PLEASE be about the war between Time Lords and Vampires with Jodie calling them slurs

I doubt they actually believe it

You'd be surprised how many are genuine, I'm afraid.

x.com/SWmoff/status/1916089031202386019

Do you think Big Finish will manage to give Yaz a personality beyond:

Muslim

Northern

policewomanofficer

in lesbians with the Doctor

i am on ketamine and i suspect that's muddied my experience somewhat, but i can still process thoughts.

what was that? it was just nothing. for a 'bottle episode' they barely introduced any of the characters--in fact they threw in those 'grew up the wastelands' flashbacks at the end? why? it's the same issue the robot planet story had: if you'd shown the character, built up who they were, then it would actually have some impact. instead of just going '...and another thing' at the last minute.

very flat. a beige episode. i suppose the overall mystery of Earth and the human race ending is there. okay. it's not even bad. it's not good. running around to some Britney Spears music, maybe there's a sense of excitement? i don't blame the ketamine i blame the writer.

Since when was that a rumour?

Alien whispers Doctos name to him

Starts crying

What is this guys problem? Why does he cry in literally every single episode.

It's about toxic masculinity innit
And if you don't like it, then you're a stale, bigoted incel

Who is the old bitch?

why is the doctor suddenly on earth with ruby in the next episode when he just said earth is gone?

how did his hair change when he put on the space suit?

how did he just happen to have the exact same space suits as the soldiers?

None of this needed to be a sequel to Midnight.

RTD’s whole approach to this new era is about generating content to drive social media hype. “Who remembers Midnight? Who remembers when the show was good?” is very on brand desu

evil entity down a well that kills the crew then escapes on a spaceship while secretly attached/possessing someone.

gee real original

Who is the old bitch?

New mystery box old woman. According to the leaks she's a new version of the Rani (doesn't explain why she breaks the 4th wall tho)

why is the doctor suddenly on earth with ruby in the next episode when he just said earth is gone?

The Earth is disappearing/getting destroyed in the finale, which is May 24th. They can visit the Earth before this time (apparently they land in 2008)

how did his hair change when he put on the space suit?

Lazy continuity

how did he just happen to have the exact same space suits as the soldiers?

Lazy writing

So did they forget about the whispering already. That wasnt very long, pajeeta gets the spoopy and can hear it immediately but the other bitch couldnt and let it on ths ship?

I refuse to believe people who are still active in these generals actually watch the show now. It's gotten so bad, it's not even fun to watch just to make fun of it anymore. It's sad honestly to see what this franchise has become but in a way, I'm happy to see it fail since everyone involved in it's destruction has to deal with all the hate.

anon.. there's something behind you

Ok hun

was the whole set, and thus that one shot, designed because of the whole "if it was a clock face, the monster strikes at Midnight" thing? RTD worked backwards from that?

it's like a pun, except you also get to invent words. now that's what i call a prost! (because this is a Anon Babble post, and also a prost)

According to the leaks

Surprised nobody's mentioned it ITT but leaks are 100% confirmed now.
Brace yourselves for big CGI monster Omega.

Was the ‘13 meets 15 just before he regenerates’ part of the original set of leaks or the fake set?

I can't remember and don't really care enough to find out.
I mean, I'm not watching the current show. I'm just watching the reactions to it.

how did Belinda know what a TARDIS is?

there was all that editing shit last series with the whistle. i don't know what's a mistake or a 'clue' any more. (we were right about the time travel in "The Eleventh Hour" and to this day i think there was one of those Silence thingies in "The Lodger")

The reactions are definitely more entertaining but I can’t think of a more fitting way for the show to end than with those two incarnations on screen together

bro wtf is with these long ass delays before each post? Why the fuck am I waiting 200 seconds between posts. That's bullshit. I posted in one thread, came to this one and now I'm waiting a ridiculously long amount of time just to make a post.

why do people ruin the shows they like by spoiling it with leaks?

Inb4 the Doctor undergoes a split regeneration just like Rani and this creates the Valeyard

ruin sutek in the first season

ruin omega in the second

ruin the rani somewhere along the way

finish off strong by ruining the valeyard

russ came into this era of the show with a plan

Are you ready to apologize yet?

why do brits even like this show? I've tried watching episodes here and there over the years and it just seems like really corny unfunny scifi schlock.

Omega and the Rani are already shite villains tbqh, so I'll be interested to see if RTD can ruin them further

Ah so they basically just ruined the mystery of the Midnight episode
Well done Russell

What was the latest episode about?

If the show had balls they would have done an episode The Referendum of Peladon - though 1) actually the Europe themes on Curse may not even be intended and instead are just people reading too much into it; and 2) getting to the wider point about how Classic handled themes better, you just know that an episode commenting on Brexit would in no way have balance or genuine understanding about why people are pro-Brexit.

big CGI monster Omega

15 and 13 meeting

Open ended regeneration

It really is the end (and that's a good thing)

the deaf girl in the far future hasn't had a cure for deafness or at least some futuristic hearing aids, and everyone instead just has to know sign language by law

yeah that makes perfect sense

if she's working as a cook on a shithole mining facility, she probably can't afford anything like that anyway

redditors write /s after they do a heckin sarcasm because they're all braindead so no it's earnest

RTD writes an episode where the day is saved due to Donna's tranny son and "trans magic"

Meanwhile irl the UK courts state that trans women aren't women

RTD writes an episode about an evil white boyfriend and includes the line "planet of the incels"

Meanwhile irl there are discussions about how we treat young males and the discourse around them causing them to be isolated (due to a different TV show)

RTD writes the first Indian companion

Meanwhile irl India goes to war

The most expensive Doctor Who episode ever (the upcoming Eurovison one) might not air on TV due to the real Eurovison

RTDs return and attempts at politics have been an abject failure. At the rate, the all black cast episode is gonna be accidentally racist or something

RTD angered a gipsy witch confirmed

[Insert 13th/14th/15th Doctor episode title here] dilutes one of Doctor Who's most iconic horrors, stripping away its ambiguity without offering anything substantial in return.

There you go, wrote an easy review for every single DW episode from 2018 to beyond.

Fuck I hate what has happened to this show. It's always been shit, but now it's really fucking SHIIIIIIIITTTTT

I genuinely cannot tell if this is satire

It's worse than that, simply put- everyone with half a brain or any real taste whatsoever just aren't watching the show anymore at all. They're not offering their opinions because they just don't care. So the only reviews/comments you're going to get are from lobomotised diehard wankers

He should unironically be the showrunner

That episode would’ve been a lot better if it didn’t mention Midnight at all. It undermined the original and the creature’s gimmick was more like Turn Left meets the Weeping Angels. Also, Gatwa hasn’t got the action chops to elevate these stories like, say, Capaldi could. He was particularly wooden here.

season 2 episode 3

leftist boomers get whiplashed by the fact that things move so fast in modernity, trannyism is a perfect example, 1 year ago labour politicians were embarrassing themselves by saying women can have penises, now that's verboten and they've all changed their tune because of the vibe shift
having right-on views is increasingly irrelevant because things move so fast

Anons, why are you even watching it? It clearly is not good and I don't think any of you expect it to be. At this point it does not even seem like it is that fun to riff on or dunk on the new stuff.

Tits > pits

Tfw the Midnight entity was just a 6ft bloke covered in modelling clay

I'm not watching it. I'm just monitoring conversations to see if it's any good and would motivate me to watch.

I might actually watch this one, because it doesn't sound too bad.

What kind of fan are YOU?

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Stupid poll, you missed out all the "i have seen all epidoes from 1963 until Capldi left" option which is what I am. Not everyone is ignorant of the Classic show ffs

I watched some classics at random but never found time to watch all of them, so where does this put me?

My answer is not there:
I like Classic more than nuWho - I have watched most of Classic and stopped watching Nu when the Doctor became a woman.

It's not as bad as the Chibnall era.

No need to apologize for anything he did.

Also according to the leaks the first three episodes were the best, so it’s all downhill from here

Is there even enough of a fanbase to support Wilderness 2.0 in the same way the first was? There seems to be four issues. 1) A sledgehammer has been taken (repeatedly) to the franchise in a way that was not true in 1989. 2) To echo what I saw an anon on Anon Babble say, there has been no generational handover - there has been no real influx into the fanbase since probably the 11th Doctor era, and it is not even as if we can go "well the last several years have all been shit, but at least (however utterly tasteless they may be) there is an audience for it". 3) Tom Baker is 91, Colin Baker and McCoy are both 81 - so you get into the issue of them either dying or just retiring, and yes sure you have impersonators but that is lesser. 4) From how corporate things to the lack of quality writers, you are not going to get the same creativity of the original Wilderness Years.

It's a show where anything can happen and has no logic.

India is at war with who?

Don't post images like this in a /who/ thread of all places.

Wilderness 2.0 will be 80% Tennant too, because of the nostalgia factor and the fact that RTD brought him back again

They are talking about things flaring up between Indian and Pakistan over Kashmir. They are not actually at war, at least yet, but they are sabre-rattling.

It is an improvement over the Chibnall era.

You haven't seen all of classic because many of the black & white episodes are missing.

It is a meaningless improvement if it is just dogshit over absolute dogshit.

It's not even that bad now it's just meh.

Anon Babble was down when lux aired but I wanted to point out that it was very telling that RTD's own idea of who the target audience is for the show which is not kids/teenagers, it's fat soilennials that post on Anon Babblegallifrey

Space Babies

Devil’s Chord

Empire of Death

Robot Revolution

Hmm…Agree to disagree.

I heard those are like youtuber cameos or something, but I don't watch who youtubers, so I wouldn't know.

I would that slampig and I'm not ashamed to admit it

we were right about the time travel in "The Eleventh Hour"

oh man I'd forgotten abou that era
the scene in the the angels episode where future doctor comes back to talk to amy while her eyes were shut, too.
those reveals were pretty cool after all the 'what's going on here' speculations

What even was the episode about?

Devil's Chord wasn't bad.

he did RLM's "nerd crew" parody but did it literally, they're even surrounded by merch for no real reason

if RTD was being honest he'd have picked that tranny that made that 12 hour vid about why chibnall sucks

Retarded shoehorned sequel bit aside. (This episode wouldve been fine even without that)
That was probably the first episode of Doctor Who i've enjoyed since 2017.
Why can't russel just make more of that instead of the pozzed pile of shit he's been spewing

If you were a writer and you have to write an episode to anger people what would you do? Keep it in the realm of reasonability of what RTD would greenlight, but even that gives you seemingly huge possibility.

ITS...
KINO!!!

first episode of Doctor Who i've enjoyed since 2017.

Looks like you didn't watch Rogue or The Giggle.

None of this needed to be a sequel to Midnight.

you're really saying this to the show that literally brought back a doctor because the show tanked so hard?
they are coasting on nothing but nostalgia now and while doing this they keep making statements about how they hate fans and fans are stupid
its gg

Thinly veiled allegory to how COVID was a hoax is my best idea. Joy to the World already is that, except by accident, so I know they don't think too hard about it.

At this point the most qualitive anger you are going to get is targeting hardcore fans already lamenting what Doctor Who has become. Bring back Romana with either the most ugly actress you can get, or bring her back as a he.

faggot episode

retarded nonsense happens for an hour with david tennant and the guy from how i met your mother.

Trust me, i saw them.

Blink's "long" day was over when Utopia aired.

What was that? You want another normal episode? How about a white men bad episode, followed by an all black cast episode set in Africa, then a space Eurovision episode, concluding in a cluster fuck two part finale instead?

>faggot episode

Homophobia is bad.

retarded nonsense

That's what the Toymaker is able to do, it's literally apart of the episode.

only 5 The Collection blu rays

2 are standard edition

how embarrassing.

season 16 announced

stars with capaldi regenerating into jodie

jodie falls out of the tardis

slams on the ground

instantly regenerates again

''woah that was a crazy dream! timeless child? bigeneration? HA!, imagine!''

camera pans up to reveal

I AM... THE DOCTOR

maybe it's a jab at the BBC standards that they require x% of programming to have sign language (i am not actually researching this - effortposts belong in the past)

The Long Good Friday is the proto-Brexit film you're looking for friend, it even has some familiar music:
youtube.com/watch?v=hGRM4gaPZrg

why can't they just use prose? the English language? also what happened to "j/k"? i miss that fella.

anyone can produce any old waffle: i'm doing it right now, don't even need oestrogen just a few bumps of ket

Damn is this true? I havent read the leaks. Where can i read the shit about omega and 13?

homophobia is bad

Dont care

That's what the Toymaker is able to do, it's literally apart of the episode

Just because you wrote something retarded on purpose doesnt make it good or entertaining

He would be the worst Doctor ever.

it's fat soilennials that post on Anon Babblegallifrey

funny considering that r/gallifrey's majority comments have been shitting on the show quite a lot

The Giggle is very entertaining.

Your parents love you.
See? I can lie too!

Either that, or Alan Moore finally found out that Russ nicked the Deathsmiths of Goth and the whole idea of the Time War from a couple hack comics he wrote back in the 70s

If they shove any more invalids in our face this season, I'm going to go full fascist. It's bad enough society tolerates, let alone supports, these genetic dead end potatos in the first place. Stop shoving them into TV and film!

Why did I want to fuck shaya? She's not hot but she's so hot

She's also 100% responsible for most of the deaths this episode. She did not deserve a happy ending at all. Should have abandoned her and nuked the planet from orbit.

They should have got the Doctors old orange suit back.

Belinda's fat brown tits

Moffat wrote most of the actually good episodes of the 9th, 10th and 11th Doctors. He should have stayed as showrunner too. A 10 year arc focused on the search for Gallifrey would have been dope.

I wonder if the BBC suits just woke up one day and said "gee, this show is too good we really need to fuck it over beyond repair for the next decade"

sees vastra and jenny

FLINT AND VEEIL

Fuck me, the thread died on 100 posts on the same day at the release? This was the previous thread ? This show is fucking dead. I only see like 8 people in this thread who clearly watched the episode.

I won't for one second pretend that The Well was a 10/10, but it actually was a good episode and that makes it seem amazing compared to everything of the past few years. I couldn't pick many faults and the lack of complaints here (e.g. compare the lack of memes here to the utter laugh we had at Planet of the Incels). oversells it but he's not far off.

Yes.

a cure for deafness or at least some futuristic hearing aids

You wouldn't be able to depict that with an actual deaf actress though, and having a normal actress go "I used to be deaf" or wear prop hearing aids would get loads of backlash.

It died before it hit the bump limit because it was night time.

No shit. This show is gutter trash. I still watch because one day when the show is good again i wont have to slog through a decade of catch up.
Nobody cares enough to even shit on it anymore.
1.2 million overnight? Shits getting CANCELLED

TIME CUBE!

Red Dwarf literally had an actress pretending to be a deaf mute only to suddenly be cured of it and talk normally in their most recent special, and they got zero shit for it.

I'm not interested in good or even fine episodes. I want this show to go out in a shower of utter shit. I want RTD to take the show completely up it's own arse. I want it to salt the earth. I want it out of the public consciousness

Not long to go now. Only five episodes left before Disney probably pulls the plug

Belinda is Clara for zoomers. I’m glad we’re back to getting attractive companions after that rough drought.

what do you mean for zoomers clara was only like 6 years ago

1 = 9

First Doctor Who of the era. No nonsense, less of the eccentricities that are associated with the character. Has obvious character development

2 = 10

Doctor who redefined how the character is viewed. Incarnations that reappears the most after they've left the show

3 = 11

Can't really make this one work beyond them both being responsible for an explosion in popularity for the show

4 = 12

The GOAT

5 = 13

Underdeveloped Doctor who's defining characterist is that they are "nice". Large Tardis team means that the Doctor is lost in the shuffle

6 = 14

A short lived gimmick-y Doctor

7 = 15

An average actor who's first series is disliked and used as an example of why the show is bad. His later series are better, but the audience has already left.

It's like poetry, it rhymes

Sôylennials are an epidemic. No media can be sincere anymore. Everything has to be meta and self aware and poke fun at itself. Star Trek, Doctor Who, Marvel, streaming flavor of the months, they're all doing it. This is a disease that needs to be cured.

kek is this a full comic?

zoomers

Anon, zoomers are born between 1997 to 2012. So the oldest are going to be 28 and the youngest 13. At this point you are only talking about the youngest zoomers, with the kids today as it were are more Gen Alpha.

Why is this Tardis console room so fucking huge? It's 90 percent empty space with ramps What's the damn point? If they were going to do that then fill the space with stuff to make it interesting to look at like the TV Movie.

Bill > Belinda

You mean a decade ago.

Have a quick look on r/Gallifrey and they believe that the leaks were planted by Russell as some sort of master meta plan. All because the fan characters joked about leaks on the last episode

Good lord. The absolute state of this fanbase. Why do they do this to themselves? They did it last year with the "the Doctor will learn he's in a TV show" show to try and "explain" all of RTD's shit writing

the console room is supposed to reflect the doctor of that era so in that sense it's perfect

ecclestone- old soul, organic, seen better days

smith- willy wonka

capaldi- oxford don

whittaker- postmodern

ncuti- soulless and sterile

sounds like something RTD would do given he's obsessed with owning redditors for some reason

haha! it was not in fact Susan, a character literally 1% of the audience have heard of, it is in fact the beloved 1980s smash villain Sutek, that about 2% of the audience have heard of!

meanwhile everyone else is completely bewildered while RTD sacrifices creative quality to play games with his own dwindling sycophants

They also think RTD has been planting elaborate rumours of the show’s cancellation because Mrs Flood said ‘show ends May 24th’ in the last episode. The last episode of this series actually airs a week later…

Anon Babble got died during the week that doctor who had its best episode in years with Lux. It’s pottery

Mrs. Flood looked directly at the screen, addressing the audience, and said "trans rights" over and over again for an entire hour

what was Russell thinking??

hahahahaha

a character literally 1% of the audience have heard of

Susan is pretty well known for being the very first companion and a weird enigma for being a family member of the Doctor

best villain for years

well known to people that discuss this show online, sure
the whole point of the series since 2005 methodically reintroducing concepts and characters from the original series is because most people that watch do not care and have never heard of any of that shit
they started to let it slide towards the end of tennant's run before they just stopped trying

Russell makes Mrs Flood a stand-in for JK Rowling to own the chuds

It was 400,000 years ago, probably a different entity.

Not an amazing episode, but compared to most of the Disney seasons, it stands out as much better than most.

She left the show 10 years ago anon. Zoomers are too young to have watched those seasons.