Lost their virginities together

She was a bit "roundhouse kick a virgin in the face" from the getgo so maybe that was just her way of covering up her own insecurity.

she's not a virgin

Women back then had sex earlier than now, you Reddit troglodyte

Yeah, with their husband.
Cynical internet incels who don't even read books are always the first to tell you how things REALLY are.

Back when? Game of Thrones ain't real

In the scene after she explicitly says she had 2 or 3 guys before (including a huge cock) and makes fun of him bevause he was a "maid"

I've read the book and their "first time" was Ygritte sneaking into Jon's bed and guiding him into her. The cave scene was significant because it was the first time a man gave *her* pleasure. That's why it seemed like her first time. Because it was her first time - getting eaten out. Ygritte is not a virgin, and she probably lost her virginity young. Wildfolk aren't taught to "preserve" themselves, that's a Southron thing. In fact, Wildfolk women are encouraged to pursue their desires, and Ygritte had many. She talks about the boys from her past. Don't you remember that scene? The one where she makes a passing mention of a Thenn boy with a "huge" dick. It stretched her teenage pussy out.

Sc*tish

G*nger

virgin

She's not, she bragged she had been with tons of men while he had never been with anyone. For her, he was just another dick in a long line of them. After that he hooks up with Daenerys where it was implied Drogo had a horse cock, so I doubt she could even feel Jon inside her.

Fell for an Irish girl when I was younger. Yeah that was the main problem, she was only like 17, just a year older than me, but she had already slept with about 10 guys. If you marry an Irish or Scottish woman, you pretty much have to accept the fact she's ostensibly a retired porn star.

Female defloration in Game of Thrones is typically portrayed as an act of abuse, violence or domination (Drogo mounting Dany, the captain's daughter with Theon, Ramsay and Jeyne, etc.) while male defloration is portrayed as an expression of love and intimacy (Jon with Ygritte, Samwell and that one bitch, Tyrion and his first wife, etc.)

I don't know if this was intentional. It might have been GRRM playing into his own insecurities - after all, Samwell was meant to be his self-insert.

You gotta make sure that modern men are OK feeling emasculated and being thought of as lesser by modern women.
Otherwise the whole system comes apart.

Since women NEED to have sex with a bunch of hot guys to reach they full developmental milestones, men NEED to be trained to have a humiliation fetish.

Then, there's no issues at all! I promise!

It's a shame. I (Scouser) deal with them a lot and they're fine, generally speaking, I get on with them well particularly because of shared heritage with the Irish (down to having the same phrasing and cultural habits), but they seem particularly susceptible to vices like drugs and promiscuity. A bit like Native Americans not being able to manage their alcohol. They are also the chief bullshitters of this island.

Aye this fella I knew, John was his name, big fella like must 'ave bin twhenty stone when he was ten years old aye, and that was wit de broken scales. so it was....anyway dis turty stone fella came out, and all forty stone of him came bounding out fasther dan a racehoorse...

Just absolute tripe constantly.

"isn't that good?" She whispered as she guided him inside her. She was sopping wet down there, and no maiden, that was plain. But Jon didn't care

Men are supposed to be fucking women, anon. Who do you think those women are fooling around with? Men. Those men could be you, or me, or anyone else. That's something you accept when you get older that *you* have baggage and *she* does too. You fucked around, she fucked around, and now you're fucking together. Maybe you're fine with her past, and if she is fine with yours than you can make something work. Men still get uncomfortable with their women's body count, and while women put up a good front about it they can be intimidated too.

But you are touching on an issue that I think is afflicting many men. The proliferation of social media alongside a general feminization of both the workforce and society means that most men aren't able to have as many partners as they used to, especially since the old tricks can be seen as abusive or "problematic." Women don't have this problem, generally, since they can be more forward with the men they're interested in - a pick of the litter, so to say. So what you're left with are a bunch of Ygrittes and a bunch of Jons, and this sort of sexual disparity doesn't turn out as innocent as it was shown in Game of Trones.

The proliferation of social media

I had a point I wanted to make about this bit but it got lost in the flow of conversation, so I'll touch back to it. Back in the day, you'd only know a woman was a whore from what you heard from friends and family or general gossip. Sure, you could find out once you're actually inside her, but losing your hymen can be caused by many things and you're not going to start questioning the girl that's sweet on you while you've got easy access to her goods. Hell, what if she wasn't a whore? What if she only had one man who didn't work out. That's pretty good, too. Even two men is fine if she's in her twenties. The point is that uncertainty makes it easy for you to ignore your woman's history until she's willing to tell you, or you're willing to hear.

But Social Media doesn't really let you do that, right? There are children born today who can probably watch their future wife's sex video when it is filmed - or even livestreamed. Every single bit of your lover's past is now available to you. The mystique isn't there anymore - much less the innocence. I don't want to be in my thirties with my wife, reading a post about how she got spitroasted in college by two hung Nubian men.

It's an issue society is still catching up on. It's an issue men are catching up on, and rather than helping men accept these societal changes, you get the media trying to hammer the point in. Like men don't have feelings, and men aren't coming from a place of insecurity and vulnerability when they lash out in anger at perceived "societal ills." I don't want women to be bare-foot in the kitchen, I just don't want to watch those feet in the air while Chad is fucking them.

Yeah, that's exactly right. Slept with all her male friends at one point, so pretty much every guy we met had been inside her before. Between that and the drinking, in the end it was way too much for me.

I was watching a movie from 1945 where the protagonist explicitly says he's "fine" with the love interest having a history before she met him. This wasn't really uncommon.

Wat name? Was the movie good?

Anchors Aweigh, it was pretty alright. The "I don't care about the boys in your past" was even the climax of their romance right near the end of the movie. Accepting your lover's sexual history is one of the rare moments that men are the gatekeepers to sex, and by removing that you leave men utterly helpless.

I feel like women were bad bitch tomboys that hunted their partners and shackled them into being good supporters of family unit
Lads were most likely virgins that kept dying in some retarded ditch where two barons fought for memes over a swap or acre of potato field

I remember reading long ago that studies show redheaded people have a more active sexual life. Literally science says that gingers fuck more.

"The Last Kingdom" (the book, not the show) does a pretty good job at showing how women and men behaved. The stereotype that women were expected to be virginal maidens beholden to their husband was more of a noble thing, and as we've seen with neo-nobility that behavior should not be treated as the norm, much less desirable.

That said.

Women weren't whores. There was always a whore in the village, but most women could only get with so many men before they garner a reputation, especially since communities were so small and tight-knit. The average village was like 100 people. That's less than most graduating classes. The average woman's dating pool was only like 5-6 guys at any given time.
Well yeah, redheads are visually striking and genetically unique, which encourages people to fuck 'em.

They're slags and degenerates lad. Americans obsess about them because they never really encounter them. I knew a fat ginger years ago and he fingered his cat and also wrestled then cockslapped a midget in the school toilets.

which encourages people to fuck 'em.

The gingers themselves have no standards and I have never met one that didn't do something outright wicked.

Yes, it is a true telling of the history of our world. Then Arya discovered America during her Western travels and a few centuries later, here we are.

also they don't poop

loved one another IRL

Pisses me off knowing Kit started treating her like crap

tourists falling for the most obvious bait imaginable

knowing Kit started treating her like crap

Biological reaction to her being an IRL slag. She had a reputation.

Did they do anal here? If so, I bet the water got a little muddy haha

And yet you also replied to the post you called "obvious bait"... curious

gingers themselves have no standards

I wanted to defend myself against this assertion but I remember some of the pigs I've plowed and I really can't.

hehe so what if the woman always has more "baggage" just accept it and be ok with the humiliation

anchors aweigh was an american musical comedy
it is like you are taking historical cues from an adam sandler movie
did you know everyone got dunkachinos in the past too?

Anon this has been an issue since the advent of Birth Control in the 1950s