/who/ - Doctor Who General

Why you so insecure mate?

Why were Smith's seasons less popular on British TV but the most well known internationally?

British viewers have higher standards

fuck matt smith

When the edible hits

Which Doctor has the biggest penis?

Ncuti most likely does

It wouldn't surprise me if Martha's mum was based on some uppity black bird who took umbrage with her bent son (who the Fifteenth Doctor is based on) fucking around with a big fat white guy.

NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST FUCK ME SON IN THE ARSE

LOL BIG WELSH COCK GOES BRRRRRRRRRRRRR

tumblr etc used to shit on Moffat for being sexist because of some scenes with Matt Smith Doctor and Clara. Meanwhile RTD just loved to shit all over women, make many of them fall in love with the Doctor etc.

Barrowman is irreverent, cheeky, I don't give a fuck gay. Examples include gay comedians.

Ncuti is YASSS QUEEN drag race, heckin' wholesome rainbow gay, examples of many modern influencers.

People respect irreverent gays because they aren't seeking your approval and like to cause offense. People dislike YASS QUEEN gays because they try to act all wholesome and in your face.

thread full of retards

Nu-uh

This is a misogynistic chud according to Russel T Davies

Season 6 had an injection of international money, notice how the season 6 opener has Matt Smith in America and the first two parter had a higher budget? They actually filmed out in the desert etc? Season 6 had an intentional push in overseas markets with the increased budget.

Ncuti's sonic is like a fucking evian bottle

Jo Martin

Doctor who was semi popular during smith's run (same time we got access to netflix), there even were ads for the show on the side of buses and tv ads back then

"we want tennant" is just people saying they want the show to be good again and tennant is widely considered the peak

No, it means they want Tennantisms and the exact style of the show that existed during Tennant.
The sharply dressed handsome action hero in a suit/tuxedo who can be the chad of any situation and doesn't have that awkward scientist autism. Boys wanna be him or wanna be his wingman, girls wanna be his one true love. Then there's the working class audience surrogate companion that's cute enough for boys to wank over but not too hot so as not to annoy the girls in the audience. The companion has to be approachable and they have to kind of pander to the viewer in a way, to be the type of person the viewer would want to associate with. There's the episodes where plot or theme don't actually matter, all that matters is projecting comfy vibes and the feeling that good fun is being had. Then there's catchprases like ALLONSYYY and WOT? WOT? WOTT??? and HYUMANATEE IS AMAAAYZEENG to advertise the show and make fun soundbytes, and the loud blaring Marigold music.

This is what people want. You could make the show good in completely different ways but people wouldn't care much, because it's not the blueprint created in 2005-2009.

Which Ood has the biggest penis?

Ood Sigma

show's never been in deeper shit. Even in Chibnall era, there were defenders. Not anymore

Ood Sugma

bring back tennant. remember him? tennant was the doctor when it was good.

REVEALED: Matt Smith's new love interest is a glamorous Brazilian model and trainee doctor - and she's 16 years younger than the former Time Lord!

Sugma? What does that mean?

She's 26 years old you sick fuck

Anyone got that picture of Jodie lying on her stomach in the green dress?

In retrospect.
Timelord Victorious was just a preview of the suffering that was to come.

I haven't given a shit since Matt Smith's run ended, but I'd rewatch if we got someone cool again as the doctor instead of a quirky guy, a female, or a fag

Matt's dead. That's all Daemon now.

What's xhe thinking right now?

she's 16 years younger than the former Time Lord!

was literally born the same year he became the Doctor

iatdaiag plays one last time

If he were supposed to be hated, why was he played sympathetically?

...No? She's 26.

RTD wanted his ass.

The truth is nothing can have mass appeal in todays society. The early 2000s Britain you had Cool Britannia, New Labour swept to power, British bands were cool, culture exports like Harry Potter, then you had Doctor Who come back. And it felt modern and fresh to people, then it became a parody of itself over time.

Even if you made a show with mass appeal, in todays polarised society people would complain. All we have left is tumblr people or culture warriors, constantly battling it out, all because a normal family doesn't sit down and watch Saturday tv anymore, people are pulled in variety of directions and to all different forms of entertainment.

yeah that's when Matt Smith became the Doctor

because that's when BBC America started broadcasting it- they didn't prior to 2009
this was way before streaming was commonplace so americans pretty much had no ability to watch it until that point

woman watching doctor who

is my tranny detector failing or what's going on here?

what the fuck is even happening. how did a clique of poof writers from oxford take over the show? will they ever leave or just keep handing it over to each other?

So this was why the Sea Devils got redesigned.
Conrad wanted more fuckable fishes.

Mental sickness

Ngl I got a little chub on when the Rani was flirting with Conrad

im gonna take it from them by force

they should hire nicolas cage.

A what doctor?

they should shoot everything on film, I think that would be quite kino

just because people are more atomised doesn't mean you can't create things with mass appeal- marvel movies have mass appeal (I didn't say they were good before you start with that)

Matt Smith

remembered fondly as one of the best Doctors

His run was the peak of the show's global popularity

was literally all over the internet when it was on air

thousands of screaming tumblr fangirls when he just walks on stage at a con (even when he's bald and just left the show)

Murray Gold at his peak

canonizes the Weeping Angels into collective pop cultural consciousness to the point they are referenced offhandedly even now by people who never saw the show in regards to vidya enemies like they're some kind of D&D archetype

people dressed in tweed and bowties by the dozens in every con

is the default go-to image of The Doctor in the mind of every zillenial and zoomer

left the show gracefully and never returned or looked back

no need to keep milking it save a washed up career as he went on to do bigger and better things and more serious roles

was simultaneously one of the best Doctors but the actor isn't only known as just The Doctor

meanwhile Tennant

old, washed up and has aged horribly

fucked up bones and weird skin

walks around dressed up like a disco sexpest weirdo

son turned into a tranny and spends his days seething at JK Rowling

dying career and has to keep coming back as to the one show he is only known for

is old emasculated and treated like a cuck in the show itself

will be dragged out even as a dying corpse just to give the show any relevancy

will only ever be remembered for this one role

only liked by aging millenial faggots and old housewives

has zero dignity left at all and dances around like a freakshow on american award shows making everyone uncomfortable

Smith won. Kneel to the Raggedy Man

i got one when she was vored

America didn't broadcast the new series before 2009

Fucking seriously!?

They should get Paul McGann

Tennant lives rent free in your head

that essay

The early 2000s Britain you had Cool Britannia, New Labour swept to power

this was literally the beginning and cause of the decline of the UK and responsible for all of the problems we have now btw
the Tories just accelerated it

Welshman, Scotsman, Northerner

More like when will this quintessentially ENGLISH show be returned to where it belongs in the Home Counties?

Based never let Tenfags live it down

funny how you can immediately tell what episode the outlier is.

I got one whenever the Rani bullied Mrs Flood

this could work, I'd return as a viewer

New dawn fellas

same

Who is this hag?

Guys guys!
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I don't know how to read this

The last time the Doctor was from the South of England was 1986

this one?

Forum lads adored her before they all hatched

Well /who/ at the end of the day. No matter what happens, I like to think we're all children of the doctor in a way.

Why has the cinematography and directing quality of TV shows deteroriated so rapidly across all British TV in recent years? Doctor Who last looked and felt like a well directed show in 2017, why? Did Moffat have blackmail material on the last competent DOPs in the state and forced them to work for him?

British class system is ingrained into every piece of our society, including Doctor Who.
RTD likes to act like a working class gay but comes from a very well off middle class background, while Moffat's mother-in-law was Beryl Vertue, etc.
Also why the likes of Eccleston fell out with producers while Tennant (the son of a very well off Scottish minister) got on so well with them. Same for Billie Piper and Catherine Tate.
It's a small club, and you're not invited.

And most importantly he was in Morbius

tennant had the best and worst episodes overall. anything after tennant is skewed by the slop consumers who stayed on.

1963

Don't bother, she's American.

Such a strange, bizarre line

Who's the one who isn't John Oliver, Richard Ayoade, or David Mitchell?

the points, axis on the left, is the episode rating on imdb, the bars, axis on the right, the number of rating votes.
i include the number of votes since it correlates pretty good with the viewer numbers, plus it is a very good indicator for episodes that create an emotional response, be it positive or negative. people want to make sure that the episode gets a very good or bad rating.

For me, is >he

Great new doctor alternative.

Let's go chuds!

A new Who is upon us.

how did ayoade get in then? no way that faggot has family connections, or talent, which makes it all the more confusing
must suck a mean cock

just some guy

I thought we were the children of earth and the Doctor explicitly went out to get milk when we really needed him?

Doing this made me realised that there actually were a few episodes from Jodie's era I enjoyed

british media is a closed shop and has been for a while now

Qrd on next showrunner
Qrd on bf losing billie

Yeah the injection of international money came from BBC America hence why the opener was in America too.

The BBC has a lot of producer "mafias", groups of people who become embedded. The BBC as a tax/public funded organisation is essentially seen as controlling the cultural life of Britain, so if you control it, you control the culture. Both left and right wingers have complained about its bias for years and now more people are not paying the license fee so it is becoming more irrelevant.

live Brigadier reaction to that stinker

It's funny how badly Oliver flopped in the UK still despite all the nepotism. He's like an upper class James Corden.

How ironic coming from the character who has no identity beyond being the Brigadier's daughter.

marvel movies have mass appeal

Marvel movies won out by using a gimmick (team ups) which built fear of missing out (fomo) and made people connect to them as an event with ritual (like watching after credit scenes). The problem with FOMO is eventually it reaches an apex where the buy-in is too great for the perceived value. E.g. I don't want to watch all these shows, too much time/effort and literally who cares characters.

With Disney money they aimed to create a new jumping on point and completely failed. But capturing that viral gimmick is hard because ultimately people want to connect via their media, even if the media is bad, and often this requires gimmicks (such as Marvel with the team ups/building up).

But even with all that shit, most people just liked RDJ (he was paid 50 million bonus for Avengers whilst Chris Hemsworth was in the hundreds of thousands) and with Doctor who most people like their doctor..

Tories in 2010 adopted a New Labour style of policy. George Osbourne and David Cameron have been quite open about this.

A lot of the internships have been focused on quotas combined with detiorating pay and conditions. We have lost a lot of "journeymen" crew and they haven't been replaced by good people.

Using that image is a bit misleading; British comedy is based on the Footlights membership to an absurd degree. You don't have to be connected to get into the Footlights (or Oxford, for that matter), but it bloody well helps.

If the TV-media industry is as gatekept and gentrified as you're claiming it is why do their pet niggers keep getting the best roles?

Des O'Connor (not that one)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_O'Connor_(cabaret_performer)

anyone in the UK can go to oxford, we do not have a legacy system like americucks do, RTD is obviously working class

I find it hard to believe RTD is smart enough to get in by merit.

This. My sister went to Oxford and were from Hull. Couldn't be less posh.

If the TV-media industry is as gatekept and gentrified as you're claiming it is why do their pet niggers keep getting the best roles?

Some parts are right wing gentrified (journalism, broadsheets, newspapers),

The media however is very liberal left, still a lot of white men, but many of them more liberal/left wing with those kinds of ideas. The BBC has a lot of liberal/lefties trying to control it in certain directions.

So you have a lot of highly educated people from respectable universities who are middle class or above who are very liberal trying to control the media, BBC etc vs a very right wing press.

Footlights is Cambridge

just got off the phone with RTD. He's putting me in for a 10 episode long series with one big story line

Season 3 looks good

Chibnall went to the University of Sheffield.

illegal aliens show up in the UK

kidnap and abuse some kids

UK government covers it up for decades

aliens want to take more kids purely to abuse them for their own pleasure

UK government continues being complicit, afraid of the aliens' violent retaliation

even lie to the public about it and start arresting people who try to do anything about it

how unrealistic, this would never happen in our country

Well shit, I've been found out as a prole

how did ayoade get in then?

He has a lot of connections. British class system very much transcends race. Look at the likes of Old Etonian Kwasi Kwarteng. There's no such thing as "white privilege" in the UK, a country where white working class boys are the lowest achievers.
lol
Watch any panel show today, and the only working class people you'll see are the ones who'll make it their entire personality and are only there so the others feel good.

Why are we being punushed for the death of RTD's little gay cripple bf?

based matt smith giving her one

I remember reading a theory that this is also the Midnight entity.

Which college?

As much as I like Children of Earth. I still to this day find it so odd how much it tonally clashes with the rest of Doctor Who and you're just expected to accept no one outside of Torchwood Cardiff is trying to do anything about it.

giwtwm

Kind of funny how that series even had fake vaccines, and now RTD writes the exact opposite message that everyone should trust the government

very right wing press.

Sick of this meme.
The papers are neo-liberal as fuck. When the Tories were letting in over a million people a year they were printing headlines about how based Boris is.

Why does Jenna Coleman look so high class when she's from Blackpool?

It's LITERALLY the fattest most jobless place in the UK.

You can tell the difference in quality between him and Moffat who went to Glasgow Uni and Chibnall

working class people

All of whom have also been to university

The fuck do they teach there? How to make steel tins for pies?

Don't forget the Daily Mail utterly worshipping Stephen Lawrence and still printing headlines about him whenever his murderers are in the news again

/who/ shits on the crab Omega idea leading up to the episode

Gets mad when there's no crab Omega

Why are you like this?

Also Grenfell over and over again.
I swear Grenfell is close to overtaking Hillsborough.

That's the cracker.

Imagine being the Rani and imagining the shouty mask guy then getting this thing and it eats you alive. chilling

Never underestimate the apathy of Britbongs towards real world problems.

Hey fuck you man, I wanted Omega to bring the time lords back as the Macra.

Nice quads. What Jenna needs is a nice juicy sausage up the back passage and no mistake.

It is still very right wing, not on every issue. The immigration issue is fucking weird because all the press ever does is moan about it, multiple parties say they will do something then nothing happens, either because they are ineffectual or because they don't want to. Yes most of it tends towards neoliberalism but plenty of it is right wing. Just in a specific dumb British way of being right wing, which confuses people.

Papers are fickle beasts. One week they were calling Jade Goodie (the big brother lady) a dumb racist slag, then she got cancer and they called her the peoples princess.

What the fuck is this picture?

she is a slag

Reminder.

Because the Doctor isn't there? Shit like this can and does happen and the idea that the Doctor will show up to save literally everyone is NuWho fairy tale shit.

you don't have to not be working class just to get into uni if that's what you mean
it depends on which uni it is

Jenna coleman turned from orange british slag to english rose, somehow

Reality War and TWBLAS if it was kino..

the fattest most jobless place in the UK.

Glenrothes?

workers are set aside at an early age. those with potential go to grammar schools.

15 kills himself to bring back his daughter that shouldn’t even exist to begin with, the girl comes back but is technically not the same person because the father is different but that’s okay for some reason.

Belinda basically gets her character retconned. There’s a huge difference between “I wanna get home because this is dangerous!” and “I wanna get home to see my daughter!”

Its not the character we’ve seen throughout the season

Ruby doesn’t get a proper farewell

Piper didn’t get the usual “AND INTRODUCING x AS THE DOCTOR” in the credits so it’s probably a red herring.

all this is because RTD didn’t plan on Ncuti leaving so early.

you're confusing the university/education system in the UK with talent management agencies who feed into production companies- the talent management agencies are a closed shop based on patronage networks and the production companies only take talent from the management agencies
remember that most things you see on TV including the BBC are not productions of the BBC, they are private production companies who sell broadcast rights to the BBC- this is especially true for panel shows
this is all coming to an end now anyway because nobody watches TV anymore and panel shows are dead

There are no right-wing papers. There are only neo-liberal papers. There's a Chomsky quote I can't remember about the greatest trick they play is letting the people think there's a variety of opinions but really it's just the same shit with slightly different branding.

Because we've all been molested by him?

I think Richard "Dirty" Desmond was probably the last right-wing newspaper owner, and that's saying a lot given he was a full on Blairite before he turned to UKIP in the 2010s. Plus he's not exactly a conservative man being a pornographer and all.
When he sold the Express they didn't even have the balls to endorse Reform like Desmond did with UKIP back in the day, instead they were printing headlines about how vile it was that some Reform plant was calling Sunak a Paki.

I still haven't seen the supoosedly leaked crab images even after deliberately looking for them

you know she was pure filth back then

University education = middle class, regardless of the amount of gor blimeys or dropped aitches

Makes sense, only they would willingly dub shitty anime games like Xenoblade

Honestly pic related Omega could probably have exploded the Rani with lightning hands or used his sick ass gauntlets to crack her head apart like Pedro Pascal on Game of Thrones. Bitch got off lightly.

I get your point and would've agreed with you until basically the last couple years but since the pandemic the telegraph just openly publishes shit that the BNP were saying 20 years ago, things have radically shifted as of late

NL

A lot of British right wingers are neo liberal on many issues as a form of sensibility but if you read between the lines they moan about the same things over and over again. British right wingers have just always had this trouble because they don't want to be seen as a Tommy Robinson type but it is all there under the surface and most people recognise what those stories are doing or on about.

Actually go and buy a selection of papers for a week sometime and see what they are talking about.

what is this, the 60s? there are barely any grammar schools left you retard

What was it actually all about?

tfw you realise Conrad would have been a kid during the 456 incident which means his serious distrust of UNIT and the government and his disdain for The Doctor is completely 100% justified

We were promised crab and got skelly instead, we have a right to be disappointed.

nobody cares since the boriswave and the boat people hotels have planted random wogs in every shire and hamlet, this shit is inescapable now and the usual BBC pro-migrant rhetoric simply does not wash with the public now, it's not even high-brow to support mass migration now because even the economic argument turned out to be a complete lie

So let's talk about that finale shall we.

Poppy is the result of Conrad's fake reality, the one that specifically erases LGBT+ people/identities from existence and also views women as belonging at home with children. Now it could be argued this is the result of Conrad's lack of a two-parent household (which is a whole discussion unto itself) but at the end of the day, her "creation" is still born from a world where Fifteen has their sexuality erased and Belinda loses her independence.

So when both The Doctor and Belinda regain their memories of what is reality they aren't horrified, outraged, or in any way upset at being forced into 50s-style heteronormative gender roles but instead want to do everything they can to "protect" this fictional baby they insist is theirs is bad enough. The fact this then goes on to see Belinda spending most of the "battle" sat in a box taking care of the child is worse.

But then we get to the entire final act where reality corrects itself and Poppy disappears as both The Doctor and Belinda are removed of the lingering influence of Conrad's politics. Only no, wait a minute, we get a big speech from Ruby about how The Doctor would always try and save a child (ignoring for some reason that she's imaginary and the result of bigotry at that) which prompts this Doctor to decide to change the fabric of reality itself so that Belinda always had his child, even if it costs him his own life.

It's pretty grim, isn't it? You think you're getting the saviour of the time lords and then you're getting a mutated beast who wants to feast on the race you want to bring back.

it was changed last minute. if you wanted a crab you shouldn't have leaked it

IT'S UP
youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJxHan7ge

And Belinda is okay with this. The same Belinda who brings up her lack of consent about getting a DNA scan is okay with her own history being changed into forced motherhood. Seriously?!

For all the talk of this era being "woke" this finale is one of the more bizarrely Tory "family values" style plot you could write. Conrad becomes a good person because he has a father in the picture. The same-sex attracted Doctor is shown to prefer his "wish" of a child with Belinda so abandons his male love in what appears to be hell, to the point of killing himself to make it so and is clearly disappointed Poppy isn't biologically his. Belinda is shown to be in a more stable and happy situation as a co-parenting mother (with the father still in the picture) living at home with mum and dad compared to the grotty flatshare as the childless independent woman she was before.

In all seriousness though, how would you feel about a proper bimbo Doctor? How would she be written?

at least previous shit finales like TTC still made me want to think and theorize about what went wrong
at this point after this era and finale i just don't even want to start thinking about bad things have gotten

Me and my 19 year old chav gf

We're about to find out.

Why is Neil Slorance's art so fucking bad

He was always the gayest

It was a big overarching multi-media story arc about monsters from the beginning of the universe and tenth Doctor going full TLV.
The main ones you need to care about is pic related and all flesh is grass.

He could have introduced her to the DARK SIDE OF HIS MIND (the DARK SIDE OF HIS MIND)
m.youtube.com/watch?v=dmSfeSZJmSA&pp=ygUfdGhlIGRhcmsgc2lkZSBvZiBteSBtaW5kIG9tZWdhINIHCQmwCQGHKiGM7w==

I come from a council estate and live in a cheap flat with a blue collar wagie job and still got a uni education you fucking twat
the economy is so fucked and rigged that even getting a degree doesn't mean shit unless you're born in the right postcode

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Like someone said in one of the last threads, it is rather laughable when someone with a specific set of politics has a blindspot that ironically allows it to be offfensive against the kind of people they are trying to protect/praise. RTD is hilariously bad since he fundamentally failed at his stated aims in a way that his own audience finds offensive.

Far as I know, there's like 2 books that were the actual main story. The Knight, The Fool and The Dead, and All Flesh is Grass. Everything else was side content, fluff and just a big multi project.
Never bothered looking into it myself because they pumped so much shit out of I just couldn't be arsed

Who's that rapist in the background

Just went to the Telegraph to see if what you were saying is correct. The top 3 articles are:
1. are brave ukkies stick one up putin
2. travlers r basterds
3. that greta's a wrongun who supports palestine
Went to the Guardian and the top 3 stories are:
1. are brave ukkies stick one up putin
2. climate change causing hot weather innit
3. uk isn't prepared for anuddah covid

All very milquetoast. All very meaningless. All promoting the same fucking bullshit interventionist foreign policy and keeping people afraid. They're all the fucking same.

They also make explicit references to the Faction Paradox and the War in Heaven

Should've studied harder

Season 3 predictions if it gets made (lol)

mystery old woman

cgi monster

I’ll start this off by saying I am disabled and have used mobility aids before but I’ve never needed a wheelchair and don’t see myself needing one in the near future.

That being said, I’m a little uncomfortable about how Shirley’s character has been used since the 60th. I was very happy to see more inclusion for disabled people, having someone like that just doing their job with their disability being brought up when necessary but otherwise she’s just a normal character.

But it’s become clear (at least in my opinion) that the character is only used to show how bad others can be. In The Giggle, once Kate takes off the band she states that she’s seen Shirley walk. This is clearly meant to be a dig at people who don’t understand ambulatory wheelchair users.

Then it appears again in Lucky Day with Conrad accusing her of being a benefit scrounger to show how bad Conrad is and then it shows up as a plot point in Wish World where it’s again used to show that Conrad doesn’t think about disabled people so they’re forgotten.

I think there’s a few more examples, I’m not entirely sure but with it being the third time this has happened (I know it’s not that many in hindsight if it’s only those three but still) it’s started to get on my nerves that one of the few reoccurring disabled characters is almost used as a prop to constantly reflect negative attitudes towards disabled people.

I wanted to see what other people thought of it, especially other disabled people.

Billie once said her nickname for Tennant was David Ten Inch.

The original ending for the episode had Susan watching the Doctor and Belinda. The mad lad was actually going to do another old woman mystery box for the third time in a row.

Matt Smith and Karen had sex. This is known. No other Doctor/companion pair did it except them.

Classic Doctor Who right there. Also they should have had Tetraps and/or Gell Guards instead of those dumbass generic black-clad henchmen.

I see we're just recycling Reddit posts now

Tom Baker literally married Lalla Ward

There's only one way that Billie could know about the Ten-inch.

The first book is pretty bland until Ten snaps but it has some good character moments.

Karen Gillan once got so wasted she was wandering the halls of a hotel, drunk and naked whilst banging on strangers doors

It happened twice in two different hotels.

I'm pretty aware of what it was, trying the multimedia, multi-Doctor, Marvel Comics Event sort of thing but nothing to do with it's actual content.

Is there anything worthwhile with this or was it a largely failed experiment?

Sex with Tom Baker is all of the expletives and none of the penetration.

Average Scottish woman.

Only a redditor would recognise reddit posts

Be gone

based madlass

Could you imagine opening your hotel door for naked karen gillan

Okay. I know some people are saying that recognizing reddit posts mean you're from reddit. And I get that sentiment, I really do. But from my point of view you would be able to understand the general feeling or vibe or whatever without being from reddit yourself, right? I mean that's just basic intuition at that point.

you can't call her the Doctor in case you get dropped and someone else is called in

correction

you don't call her the Doctor so you can Generate Content via speculation

all the while you're winging it backstage based on response

if it's positive, she's The Doctor

if it's negative, she's Bad Wolf, or some Reality Glitch Doctor, or some other arbitrary temp space until you can either rope Ncuti back in (or god forbid, Tennant for the 4th time), or get someone else to be the 17th

god. i've never felt this negative or bitter about doctor who, even during chinballs era and the timeless child

A lad I went to school used to date Karen Gillan

You can be selectively woke. RTD is gay, he's also an out of touch and narcissistic 60 year old white man. The way he wrote Martha during his original run was horrific. Mickey was treated terribly. And he paired both of them together cause they were the only two black characters he had. Then come RTD2, Rose Noble was written very messily. And he repeated what he did with Martha to Belinda, but arguably worse. Having (presumably) good intentions doesn't erase bias. Look at the way he wrote every other minority compared to the way he wrote his gay sexual fantasy, Jack, or his self-insert, Rose.

Moffat's woke was a little hamfisted and awkward at times, he clearly wasn't entirely sure how to write Bill, but that and The Doctor punching out a racist is still lightyears ahead of this shit.

You can just tell reddit posts also chatgpt posts

The British class system precludes a right wing movement because being right wing is common.

No we're not which is why I'm asking

Look. As much as people might get mad, I think the show needs a FULL season of Tennant's 14th Doctor to have any hope of revitalisation.

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Fan Fiction Friday: Doctor Who’s Amy Pond in “Amy Has Anal”

?I’m going to give you three guesses as to what this fan fic from roryfuckedamy (seriously, that’s the author’s name) is about, and the first two don’t count. Also, I’m going to beat you in the head with a hammer while you guess. Honestly, you should still be able to figure it out.

Why is there no Christmas special?

Here's some reasons a post may be chatgpt:

mosley was a baronet

All of this bullshit could've been avoided if we just got Jo Martin after Capaldi.

A black woman would be the worst possible scenario

Mosley was not right wing.

let's not ruin everyone's Christmas with this shit

Why would you link a dead video?

trvke

Mickey and Martha was just a Smith and Jones joke.

This is sort of a larger issue with RTD's political views

The thing is, he's really acclaimed for things like It's a Sin and Queer as Folk and that's completely fair enough. That was his life. Those were his friends. He's more than qualified to right about that. But since his husband died and his brain fully melted, it seems to have all gone to his head.

He thinks he's doing you a favour by showing this up rather than just natural inclusion. He thinks he's making things for children despite being a 60 year old gay man and not knowing anything about what children and families are like in current year.

He understands the aids struggle of the 80s but doesn't understand that the people he's trying to protect now, he doesn't actually understand in any meaningful way

Show's done. They are just gonna pretend it isn't for a few years

Hopefully the Billie Doctor has less screen time than 8 and 14.

Haram

15 got more screen time than 9 but it still feels like we know nothing about him

Why are the words Haram and Harem so similar?

It wouldn't work. RTD has blown all his memberberries. The old fans are tuning out due to woke nonsense and the plots have gotten too clusterfucky and self referential for the normies. Can only be fixed by a long break and back to basics blank slate

She's a great Doctor.

The day a black woman becomes the Doctor is the day the show dies. The British public don't want this.

The real Doctor who tier list.

oh yeah I forgot about that
still stupid

Capaldi fans also love Jo Martin and it's no coincidence. They are willing to accept a black woman and an ugly grandpa so long as they fit the idea of what the Doctor is.

He isn't selectively woke. He is woke but his writing is so bad that his intentions and his outcomes are different. The reason so many modern writers are bad is because of this disconnect. I sometimes find to understand a writer's intent you end up having to read their social media.

He wants to promote and have people that fit his boxes but then fails to consider the actual context of what he writes or creates, this is his blindspot. He spends so long saying how heckin' wholesome it is whilst also constantly drawing attention to it in a way to make those people feel uncomfortable.

Ultimately he is just an old confused man. JK Rowling was very liberal and went the other way. People like Gaiman or RTD just desperately tried to pivot into understanding these modern left forces and appealing to them to be the heckin' wholesome writer guy, it didn't end well for Gaiman.

Who remembers Rose? Eh? Eh? "Rose" what a name eh? Imagine if she were't Doctor, eh, what about that? You'd go t' yur nana's house and watch Doctor Who, wun't yuh? Eh? Something fur't dads, eh? Kiddie'd be watchin' it fur't daleks and dad'd be sat with't tongue out at Billie Piper, Eh?

Ncuti Gatwa's tenure lasted 18 months

Billie Piper's next appearance will most likely be a 2026 Christmas special

Piper will be The Doctor for just as long as Gatwa with only one episode

I'm being attacked for not liking ncuti because he cries in every episode. like no other doctor does that. he's a pussy ass bitch.

it didn't end well for Gaiman

That was less because of his writing and more because he's a fucking rapist

Willing to accept an actor so long as they work

Yeah, why wouldn't you?

Let's be fair, I don't think Rusty ever raped
his fans while his kid was in the bed with them

Ask Ncuti, Eccleston or Russell Tovey about the casting couch.

I hated the bulk of 12's stories and I despised Clara but I was still willing to tune in every week because The Doctor was still The Doctor, and still acted like The Doctor. Ncuti acted like The Doctor maybe a handful of times. Jodie never acted like The Doctor.

So why did it not say introducing Billie Piper as the Doctor? Is RTD unironically doing the Valeyard next?

So people will talk about it online, creating free publicity for the show.

It's to keep speculation high

2026 Christmas special

There are no episodes until 2027.

Barrowman is a creep but RTD is innocent. But things were covered up apparently.

Probably because the show’s future is uncertain do they don’t want to fully commit. It’s also unlikely RTD stays on.

He is reading the thread right now and will decide whether she's the Doctor or not later depending on fan reaction. Is that not obvious?

He is woke but his writing is so bad that his intentions and his outcomes are different.

I didn't mean to imply he was selectively woke on purpose. He obviously had good intentions with Rose but she was handled horribly. I don't think he even understands how offensive it is to imply she just didn't exist in Conrad's world.

Is RTD unironically doing the Valeyard next?

Seems to be the only big Classic Who thing left to bring back

So that you talk about it. Which you are.

That's all it's designed to do. Generate content and discussion. Don't let him have the pleasure.

The answer is who fucking gives a shit. They don't care so why should you?

Please generate content. Who is the Boss?

see

I was more referring to the irony of Gaiman saying "believe all women" and being pro all those things and then succumbing to those allegations and telling people not to believe those women.

It is just the irony of those that promote certain politics but then their most ardent critics end up being those people they were trying to please, angered by their messy writing.

(RTD has probably got a casting couch though.)

It's because she's literally just playing Rose again.

Introducing Billie Piper as Rose, who is now The Doctor.

What times were those? For me I felt like Boom was the only time I really felt it

SSSSSSSTTTTEEEEEEEEVENS

This is just cope. We literally saw The Doctor regenerate into her.

When he was fighting the Midnight creature.

Can you guys post more Nicola Bryant
Current her I mean

That's because the script was originally written for Capaldi

The Doctor and the TARDIS switched places. This is not the Doctor, the 16th Doctor, but the Bad Wolf entity, or the Moment. It's a separate person. Ncuti is trapped inside the TARDIS still and will regenerate into the true 16th Doctor at a later date. It will be a white heterosexual male who has not been in the show before.

SSSSSSSTTTTEEEEEEEEVE

This show just leaves me genuinely exhausted. I feel like I am trying to dissect a car crash in motion. I can't respond to any of its cheap tricks in trying to get me to feel things. I can't try and come up with theories. I just feel tired. Not even angry, just tired. And who the fuck wants to watch shows that tire you out.

Nice fan fiction

I'd say Boom, The Church on Ruby Road, and Joy to the World. Then there were a few small moments scattered about here and there.

It will be a white heterosexual male who has not been in the show before.

The most unbelievable part of the tripe you just posted

You mean like nuWho?

So what your saying is that Steven Moffat writes a more convincing Doctor?

I'm not saying she's not The Doctor I'm saying The Doctor is Rose now

Having trouble getting through classic who?
watch on x1.5 speed
thank me later.

Felt that way during Chibnall. I genuinely couldn't follow the show under him.
RTD is followable but still aggressively shit.

It's so weird to me how The Church on Ruby Road was so well written compared to everything RTD did afterwards.

Third time's the charm

And by that I mean the old hag he casts suddenly dies during filming, too late to rewrite the show, the bottom falls out and Doctor Who is suddenly put on hiatus for a few decades.

Moffat's writing would have saved Ncuti but not Jodie.

Fuck offerino

Baker = Tennant >>>>> everyone else

Joy to the world was fucking dogshit.

Felt that way during Chibnall. I genuinely couldn't follow the show under him.

I quit early on during Chibnall and only came back to try Ncuti. But that felt more like a general, I can't be bothered feeling. I literally just forgot about it during that run so didn't see the really bad stuff. This feels more like exhaustion for me.

I watch with subway surfers and family guy clips.

R2D is watchable but extremely bad. Chibnall is unwatchable.

The dark truth is this show was cucked from the moment Chris left, Tenant was good but he tentatively started the whole ''le quirky geek hipster'' shit that came to fruition with Matt Smith. They had a more sober and serious direction with season 1 for all its campness, him leaving probably directly raped the series in the long run

Also the romance between the doctor and rose was completley fucking ruined by him leaving.

The only way they could save the series is by getting an uptight english gentleman like the first doctor or somebody who is actually cool like chris. Also they need a hot chick for the companion. Chances are doctor who is DONE FOR and they're just gonna throw more niggers and women at it

I don't know how to describe why I still watch the show. It's a combination of sunk cost fallacy, trying to regain some sense of my childhood, masochism, and the last ember of hope still refusing to die.

Not being written constantly gay as fuck and a convincing wardrobe would be the start Gatwa needed

It was doomed the moment they cast a hard man instead of noble McGann.

Like he was so good in Boom despite the obligatory crying scene. why couldn't he just be that all the time.

The show is bearable when it doesn't focus on contrived greater plots and actually has a message (anti-military industrial complex in Boom), but any episode involving magic, impossible physics, gods, or babies is trash.

Had Tennant regenerated at the end of series 3 instead of being reborn with wishpower the show would have been GOAT.

People watch shit to connect over it or to connect to something, even if that connection is to moan or hate it.

Cocomelon would better accommodate your attention span

Yeah.

if he turned into matt smith after that stolen earth cliff hanger it would have been so epic

and actually has a message

I miss decent side characters who might have an arc in an episode. Now everyone is stand around whilst the doctor says something then the doctor says how brilliant they are over and over again

Church on Ruby Road had me so excited for the upcoming series. And then we got Space Babies.

Church on Ruby Road was pure RTD1. Everything after was trash.

I am extremely retarded, can someone explain to me if people are meming when they say they liked the goblin musical episode?

I genuinley want an episode where The Doctor regenerates at the end of part one of a two-part finale.

This happened in the bigeneration.

It's kind of funny how badly they fumbled the first woman doctor and also the first black doctor through shitty writing. They are just proving the critics right but it could have been easily avoided by casting Jo Martin.

UNIT have become exhausting. I know they probably spent a lot of money on that set but please stop

They're just Torchwood now.

Technically happened with 5th to 6th

It was fun. 15 actually felt like he was in charge of the situation and solving mysteries, something we would almost never see from him again, and the dynamic between him and Ruby actually felt like The Doctor with a companion rather than a 19 year old fag hag and her gay bestie.

Finale of Tennant specials is set in UNIT Tower

Finale of Gatwa S1 is set in UNIT Tower

Finale of Gatwa S2 is set in UNIT Tower

The thing I admire most about RTD is his creativity.

Also the romance between the doctor and rose was completley fucking ruined by him leaving.

this was already fucking retarded anon

They are just proving the critics right

That Tharries realised a video today and he was basically saying that the finale has proved all the haters right kek. He sounded so defeated

Separate stories. Logopolis to Castrovalva is close

I hope that building gets levelled to the fucking ground, I hope a Slitheen ship crashes into it Aliens of London style.

Rewarded for shilling with a cameo on the show

Immediately shits on it afterwards.

I respect that.