Why is everything they reference in Seinfeld so hopelessly obscure and memoryholed...

Why is everything they reference in Seinfeld so hopelessly obscure and memoryholed? Even for the 90s they were choosing esoteric shit

The English Patient

Mannix

Son of Sam

JFK from 1991

In the Line of fire (cable guy episode)

It’s called non hack writing

90s was the most corposlop decade in US history. 2010’s were much more kino

Son of Sam is esoteric?

yeah, the only one i understood was "he's a nigger"

my dog was possessed by the devil and made me kill those people

Son of Sam references are literally always funny.

1997 academy award-winner

obscure when this episode came out in 1997

Are you retarded

they wrote a show in the 90s and referenced 90s things

Why are zoomers so fucking retarded? (minus Mannix and Son of Sam)

Seinfeld is the only reason Son of Sam would ever come up in a conversation, same with dingo ate your baby

Good Lord don't try to watch Murphy Brown or you might have an aneurysm

Gen Beta will be complaining about tiktoks from 2022 mentioning NFTs

Who is son of sam? is he a streamer?

The English Patient

It was a big movie at the time the episode aired. And they're right its super boring.

Mannix

Jerry and Larry are boomers and Mannix was a big show in the 60s. Its good too, check it out.

Son of Sam

Jerry and Larry are New Yorkers and Son of Sam was a New York serial killer, also a jew.

JFK from 1991

It was a big film. Lots of shows memed the magic bullet scenes.

In the Line of fire (cable guy episode)

Great movie. They have good taste.

Seinfeld is the only reason Son of Sam would ever come up in a conversation,

Are you fucking retarded? Based on that logic Ted Bundy would only come up in conversation because of American Psycho. They made a movie called "Summer of Sam" and whenever people talk about the 70s Yankees or the NYC blackout the Son of Sam comes up.

The English Patient and JFK were very successful Oscar winning films and even In the Line of Fire was a hit and nominated for multiple Oscars. They weren’t referencing little known things

No way that dude was jaw/chin maxing before it became cool. Legend

i think its an alter ego of Jeffrey Dahmer

Gee I wonder

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I assume it was just obnoxiously topical. Like talking about season 2 of severance in a show or something.

Ted Bundy was never obscure. He, Kaczynski, Dahmer, deAngelo, and maybe Rodriguez (Night Stalker) are on the “A-list” in terms of serial killers. “Son of Sam” is a nobody

Those aren't that obscure? Esp. at the time. I am old, of course, but was in my teens/20s when they aired. Got the references. It was occasionally a bit too boomerish, but everybody had cable tv with basically the entirety of tv/film history as the backdrop for pop culture.

You want obscure, try watching, say...early season of Always Sunny or an older show like Party Down, and the references are today stuff like, oh yeah, I kinda remember that. In 20 years they'll need footnotes.

this show will never have the cultural relevance that the office has

Ted Bundy was never obscure.

Neither was Son of Sam retard. In the movie "My Cousin Vinny" Vinny brings him up and the judge says "You mean the man who received orders to kill from a dog". Before that Neftlix show about Ted Bundy he was fading into obscurity too. If there isn't some Netflix slop about a subject, faggot zoom zooms think said subject was never a big deal.

I assume it was just obnoxiously topical.

Not really. Murphy Brown was like that and its pretty much unwatchable now.

Seinfeld is more of a random grab bag of pop culture references that resonated with the writers. It makes more references to pop culture from the 60s and 70s than it does to current stuff from the 90s.

this show will never have the cultural relevance that the office has

The Office is already irrelevant. It was a semi ratings hit when it aired, got huge on Netflix, then died on Peacock.

Zoomer brain

idiotic take, literally idiotic

idiotic take, literally idiotic

Sure thing, retard. How many have Peacock compared to Netflix? The Office going to Peacock didn't pop their numbers at all, even though it was always in the Netflix top 10.

Millennials

invented QIAA+ on top of LGBT

invented PC culture

invented cancel culture

invented social media addiction

invented Occupy Wall Street

invented BLM

invented gluten-free

invented "polyamory is my identity"

killed religion

killed car culture

inexplicably blame boomers for all the above

Zoomers

don’t know things xD

Truke

Mannix

Yeah, and even shit like "Mannix" that I had never seen I'd heard about. Like Kojack, Beretta, you don't have to have seen them, just know they existed and were like, a cop show.

The English Patient

And also, Elaine was completely right. That movie was a slog. I got dragged there with my parents one weekend before Christmas and snuck out to catch the end of First Contact (true cinema art).

Murphy Brown was like that and its pretty much unwatchable now.

Oh shit, I forgot about that show. Our babysitter loved it for some reason, she was obnoxious. Depending on the night we'd have to read while she watched that or Nprthern Exposure (which at least was sometimes weird and had a hot chick in it).

If you can get your hands on the DVDs and play them, or maybe find a torrent with the commentary subtitles attached, check out Notes About Nothing, I had the series on DVD back in the day and they go through and explain all the references during the show.

>invented PC culture

This was around since the 90s when millennials were in elementary school you fucking retard.

>invented social media addiction

You can't invent addiction, retard.

>invented Occupy Wall Street

They were probably in their late teens in 2011. It was Gen X that was OWS.

>killed religion

Didn't happen.

>killed car culture

Blame the prices of gas and cars for that.

>don’t know things xD

So both milliennials and zoomers are tards but for different reasons?

>The English Patient

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Son of Sam is a satanic cult that made snuff films for Hollywood elites.

None of those but Mannix were obscure in the 90s

invented QIAA+ on top of LGBT

Jews invented this.

invented PC culture

Jews invented this, too.

invented cancel culture

Jews again.

invented social media addiction

Jews AGAIN

invented Occupy Wall Street

Was based before Jews took it over and made it kosher.

invented BLM

Jews. Are you starting to notice a pattern, here?

invented gluten-free

Many people legitimately have an allergy to gluten.

invented "polyamory is my identity"

Jews.

killed religion

Christianity is Jewish. Killing it was based.

killed car culture

The lack of cool looking cars and kids not having money to buy their own cars killed car culture.

inexplicably blame boomers for all the above

I suspect you are seething boomer larping as a zoomer.

Christianity is Jewish. Killing it was based.

Nice falseflag post

None of those but Mannix were obscure in the 90s

And the reason why Kramer mentioned Mannix was because he was on the Merv Griffin Show set as the host and Elaine said the chair smelled like garbage and that the "stars of the 70s weren't as hygenic as they looked on tv....you take Mannix for example!". So the joke made sense. Zoomertards couldn't fathom that show in the 90s was doing an episode that was a callback to something from the 70s.

I was there, and no, none of that stuff was obscure at the time.

And we’ve already conquered your land and are going to continue making it worse. Seethe more, Goyim.

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Elaine get gangbang

And we’ve already conquered your land and are going to continue making it worse. Seethe more, Goyim.

It's funny that you faggots blew 80 fucking years of "Remember da holocaust!" when you decided to do your own holocaust in Palestine.

references are only okay when zoomies do it

Your entire culture is being on insta and tiktok and referencing shit only you z-tards know.

Your entire culture is being on insta and tiktok and referencing shit only you z-tards know.

"Chicken Jockey" had white zoomers rioting in movie theaters like black people.

It's funny that you faggots blew 80 fucking years of "Remember da holocaust!" when you decided to do your own holocaust in Palestine.

Coexistence with mudslimes is impossible and you know it. Don’t act like you care about vermin just because you’re on the losing side of history. Whites will suffer the same as they have once our population grows.

The English Patient won Best Picture of 1996, it wasn't at all obscure in the 90s

Coexistence with mudslimes is impossible and you know it.

I'd rather live with them than with you. We've seen what Jews do to white culture.

Don’t act like you care about vermin just because you’re on the losing side of history.

Whites weren't holocausted, and there are still lots of us. We can't lose. You can.

Whites will suffer the same as they have once our population grows.

It will take 5000 years for you to surpass the white population

Agree with most, but

Many people legitimately have an allergy to gluten.

Complete bullshit. Celiac exists, but before the the industrial revolution gluten was 90% of all people's diets, if anyone would have had an allergy to gluten they would have been filtered out of the gene pool tens of thousands of years ago.

Modern gluten allergy is just faggy and only existed with the rise of victim culture. Gluten sensitivity wasn't a thing even in the 90s.

>I'd rather live with them than with you. We've seen what Jews do to white culture.

Yes and it’s glorious. but

implying I’d wanna live in a third world shithole like America or bongistan

kek

Whites weren't holocausted, and there are still lots of us. We can't lose. You can.

No but they will be and you will lose. We already control everything and all your hate does is further cement the reason Israel and jewish supremacy needs to exist.

It will take 5000 years for you to surpass the white population

It doesn’t matter. We already have supremacy. It’s all jewish owned and you can’t do shit about it. Thousands of years of anti semitism and lead to us gaining power. If it’s any consolation to you, you’re only 5% better than those treacherous vermin who call themselves “Jews” and disavow their homeland or religion.

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Rochelle, Rochelle is lost media, these days.

I explicitly remember a child of one of Jerry's girlfriends pretending he was John Wilkes Booth and shooting Abraham Lincoln while laughing. Gabe me a strange feeling. Possibly season 3. I believe there is something behind it, if you know what I mean.

>implying I’d wanna live in a third world shithole like America or bongistan

I'd rather live there than Israel.

No but they will be and you will lose

Sure thing, retard. You retards control the media and you can't get them to print pro Israel coverage. You've lost control of your own machinery.

It doesn’t matter. We already have supremacy.

Look around, you don't. Trump won. Israel is the most hated country on earth (libs hate them more than Trump and I didn't think that would be possible).

. Thousands of years of anti semitism and lead to us gaining power.

You had your chance and you blew it. You focused on immigration and social issues and it all backfired in Israel's face.
You lost.

the english patient was a massive movie at the time, so was the JFK movie, hardly obscure

I explicitly remember a child of one of Jerry's girlfriends pretending he was John Wilkes Booth and shooting Abraham Lincoln while laughing.

It was a friend of Elaine's who said that she wasn't responsible enough to take care of her kid and Elaine convinced her she could do it. That kid shot Elaine saying "You're dead President Lincoln! You're dead!"

Possibly season 3.

8 or 9

maybe purposely, something hopelessly obscure is no different than made up so they could weave it into the plot organically that would be familiar at the time of making, but still have longevity

topical shit doesn't age well when there is some background familiarity with the topic, it grates

I love Seinfeld but I will admit the ep where Elaine dates a guy named "Joel Rifkin" is a weird reference. They should have used "Ted Bundy". Even as a teenager in the 90s I'd never heard of Joel Rifkin (the show says that Elaine's boyfriend has the same name as a serial killer, but at the time I assumed it was an in-universe serial killer).

>The English Patient

That movie was very well-known in the 90s. You're a fucking infant.

Son of Sam

Son of Sam was in Mindhunter. Yeah, super obscure reference. I mean there's Gein, Dahmer, Bundy, Klemper, BTK, Zodiac, Gacy... Son of Sam isn't far behind in notoriety. The guy terrorized NYC in 1977.

Sam Seders son I think

Tell that to any fucking boomer from New York/Long Island. If I had a nickel for every time they reminisced about the “summer that the son of Sam got arrested” I’d have a pretty pickle of nickels

JFK was huge in the 90s, you dumb brown foreigner.

if anyone has an allergy to gluten they would have been filtered out of the gene pool

Faulty logic, there’s no reason to think that’s true. Gluten allergies don’t kill you, so If people survived with it would continue to propagate. Same reason that theoretically you’d think being born with bad eyesight would have been filtered out ages ago and yet here we are

kek no he wasnt

The English Patient wasn't obscure zoomer retard, it was a box office hit. And rightfully lampooned because it was the kind of boring movie nobody liked but snob people went to see it and pretended they liked it anyway because muh art muh deep messages.

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gluten allergies wasn't a thing until we started fucking with crops

blames boomers again

Like clockwork

Based and fuck shitlennials. As gen X I watched those little shits ruin society in realtime.

lol lmao

It was a big film. Lots of shows memed the magic bullet scenes.

They also had Wayne Knight on the show, it was and still is pretty hilarious they did this.

Why is everything they reference in Seinfeld so hopelessly obscure and memoryholed? Even for the 90s they were choosing esoteric shit

it avoided the show becoming dated
like the oj refrences with jackie chiles and the bra not fitting is still funny enough if you don't get it
the movie stuff is interesting because it seems for every real movie they mention, they seemed to make up another one

None of this was esoteric in the 90s, bud

posts black dicks out of nowhere

Mutt's Law. Jews own you kek

all of these things were big in the public consciousness at the time, kill yourself retarded zoomer