When will you luddites admit the truth?

Writer who has made slop for decades now claims AI is fantastic

Shocking.

Even if you make a thread on Anon Babble about their movie ideas you get better stuff than Hollywood creates and I'm sure those ideas are more creative than what ChatGPT offers. Just exclude all the weird fetush stuff if you aren't a french director

Are we sure ChatGTP isn't just Cartman in a cardboard robot outfit?

Schrader is based

Even if you make a thread on Anon Babble about their movie ideas you get better stuff than Hollywood creates

I'm sure those ideas are more creative than what ChatGPT offers

Where do you think LLMs are getting their "ideas"?

Chatgpt write me a script about a militant Neo Nazi in the witness protection program who is also an expert horticulturist that falls in love with a black granddaughter of his boss script came from

What I always find funny about these ai threads is that while retards are arguing about its viability, there are people literally using it successfully on the downlow to do these things because it isn't as obvious as you want to pretend.

t. know someone who recently won an award doing this

Hollywood only hires midwit nonbinary nepobabies who think Avatar The Last Airbender is peak genre fiction.

there are people literally using it successfully on the downlow

movies and tv are at their lowest point in decades

oh yeah, no one is noticing.

SAAAAAAAR

You could certainly use an ai to write you posts for you, you gibbering idiot.

AI is replacing the worst writers. I don't see a problem with this at all. It will just mean that good writers will get more recognition. I have no problem with that Witcher nepobitch getting replaced with AI.

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Writers want to write.

The guy's point is from a corporate producer's perspective.

eventually no one will remember how we created these things and we'll presume its basically magic.

What are some common technologies that you think are magic?

The shows and films you're whining about don't use ai. Seethe harder

hehehe

How would you know? You wrote them all? oh wait, you know everyone who writes them, right.

I'm sure he provided examples of these great, fleshed or ideas so that we could all see what he was talking about.

i had a guy who worked in a hospital look me in the eye and say we don’t know why electricity “works” or how it exists. just saying.

No. I can tell by the way you're screeching that you think that every film is the stupid capeshit that you shitpost about while masturbating. Those capeshit films have started using some ai in their vfx very recently, but they were shit long before that. And the writers' rooms have strict contractual clauses that mean they aren't allowed to be written with ai. Keep seething

it can write stuff but it eventually gets stale and you see through its writing style. you can kind of mix up the writing style with the right prompt but the underlying patterns are still there. it's subtle but you notice.
t. erp with llms

Not really what was being discussed, but I appreciate you taking time to write a post.

And the writers' rooms have strict contractual clauses that mean they aren't allowed to be written with ai.

lol the cope

Title: The Embalmer

Logline: A terminally ill funeral director in a drought-ravaged Southwest, haunted by a past wartime "mercy killing," spirals into self-destruction when a deadly heatwave overwhelms his mortuary with bodies, forcing him to confront his guilt, mortality, and the ethics of ending suffering in a collapsing world.

The Schrader Man: Arthur Vance (50s/60s) - isolated, guilt-ridden, precise. Lives above his failing funeral home. Diagnosed with aggressive cancer. Ritualistic embalming is his anchor. Past sin: euthanized a suffering comrade as a medic.

Collapsing World: Bleak, parched Southwest town under relentless heatwave/drought. Bodies (especially vulnerable heat victims) flood his mortuary, mirroring his own decay and societal/environmental breakdown.

The Trigger & Descent: Embalming a heatstroke victim violently triggers his wartime trauma. Overwhelmed, in pain, and self-medicating, he cuts corners, makes mistakes. His voiceover fragments, consumed by suffering and release.

Moral Crisis: He writes a fragmented, despairing "Mercy Journal" manifesto. Is ending profound suffering (his comrade, a child, himself, the planet) mercy or sin? A suffering client might obliquely ask for his "help."

Schrader Style: Bleached sun/sterile embalming room visuals. Tight framing. Long takes. Catholic guilt. Slow-burn dread. Climax: A breaking point – a devastating confession monologue or a morally ambiguous act fueled by pain, guilt, and twisted mercy. Internal explosion over external action.

Core Themes: Guilt & Atonement | Isolation | Mercy Killing Ethics | Ritual vs. Chaos | Existential Dread (Personal/Planetary) | Suffering & Meaning.

Pure Schrader: "Man in a room" (embalming suite), profound guilt, moral ambiguity, contemporary dread, strong internal performance, voiceover, stylized visuals, bleak tone, ambiguous climax.

The trick is to provide it a sample of your writing as the prompt. I've had luck brute-forcing gtp to analyze my example and crafting its own prompt to mimic the style.

i agree, but it’s speaking to a facet of the conversation that there are a lot of people who are very dumb and prone to not understanding well documented things to begin with, as if every system that was set in front of them had failed them. AI probably won’t help with that.

There are some real-world examples of this that predate ai by several decades. On the one hand you've got the technology used to go to the moon

they stopped going and the methods were lost to time

inb4 conspiracy shit

But you've also got things like Roman concrete where it took them centuries to recreate it because they tried using normal water and it kept crumbling, and then eventually realised that sea water was needed.
There are still people legitimately arguing that aliens built the ancient pyramids.
The film development houses have been shutting down for the last decade and a lot of film-related tech is just gone with them.

I imagine it won't be long before things like analogue televisions/radios/telephones are completely forgotten outside of inaccurate convoluted wikipedia articles and textbooks.

no, they're just violating contractual agreements that could cost them millions, even though they have to pay the humans anyway, because reasons

Imagine actually being this stupid.

On the one hand you've got the technology used to go to the moon

they stopped going and the methods were lost to time

You think they don't know how to go to the moon anymore?

A writer using the ai and not telling anyone, you utter dunce.

It's complicated. They (nasa and other space agencies) know the physics involved and have been working hard for the last few years developing protypes for such a feat.
But in terms of how it was done in the 60s, they don't have those schematics pr know the methods anymore and couldn't recreate them without a lot of trial and error.

Most complex systems rely on a bunch of institutional knowledge with scant documentation scattered about a thousand places. If you go long enough without training anyone on that institutional knowlwdge, it's sayanora.

I am very well aware of the tricks to improve style and employ them, but at the end of the day you are still doing quite a bit of lifting as the guy prompting. the model is feeding off your creativity, not the other way round. maybe models will keep improving on this point but beyond a few thousand words they all still fall into that distinctly AI-generated tone that's hard to describe, similar to how early image models had a telltale sheen about them. you can get cool concepts like but it's quite a different task to write hundreds of pages of screenplay and make the dialogue feel natural and diverse across characters.

Ai is unironically much better than the shit in any recent capeshit film. That's how you know it's not ai because ai isn't that fucking retarded.

Jews want to spend less money

Woah, more news at 11

the truth is that a type of AI was already checking data and providing feedback into what type of movies would make more money
but the retards would then put their ideology over that data and we have the bullshit we've had since obama

AI says put women in it to attract more males and females

jews put ugly dykes and half jew nepo babies in the movies instead of actual hot women

projects fail

many such cases

every model has tells and leans on a lot of stock phrasing. the model I use to generate ERP shit loves doing “and maybe, just maybe” as a segue into lewd shit. the people that can’t see AI’s failures are at best hopeful simpletons and at worst humanity ending freaks.

Exactly. It's like how 90% of computer chips are manufactured in the same plant in Taiwan or something.
You can watch a youtube video explaining how to create those chips, but there's a reason companies aren't trying to create them themselves.
If I've got this right, it's either the paperclip, velcro or the zipper where they're all produced by a single company and no one else can figure out how to make them right.

beyond a few thousand words they all still fall into that distinctly AI-generated tone

That's why I repost the example passage every time. My method is

prompt a passage outline

refine outline

prompt a passage following the outline and using my example passage for the writing style

As I said, I had the bot create a prompt that addresses and curtails its most egregious habits.

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We had a not-so-irreplacable but still really expensive piece of glassware that the department's glassblower made a handful of for some reaction. Lab manager stresses how expensive it is and to be very careful with it. A buddy of mine is using it, loses his grip and it gets launched from the pressure and shatters. Manager glares at him, my friend pauses for a beat and says "accidents happen"

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Pretty close

And then everyone clapped

What about my tale stretches the limits of plausibility?

Based Schrader.

You're fucking retarded. This is where the world is going, eventually no one will remember how we created these things and we'll presume its basically magic.

this will absolutely happen.

analogue televisions/radios/telephones are completely forgotten

textbooks remain

Text is the universal medium.

Did he just self-admit to fetishizing torture, and glorifying it through his own films?

Textbooks alone aren't enough.
Take a (competent) college graduate from pretty much any subject. Put them alone in the forest with only text books and tell them to build a television. How many do you think will succeed in that situation?

Sure! Here's a concept that fits Charlie Kaufman’s signature style — deeply introspective, surreal, and existentially unnerving — while exploring new thematic terrain:

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Title: "Palimpsest"

Logline:

A neurotic ghostwriter discovers that the man he's been hired to write a memoir for never existed — and may, in fact, be himself.

Concept:

Miles, a reclusive and depressive ghostwriter in his 40s, is hired by a mysterious agency to write the memoir of a famous but elusive thought leader named "Harold Finch." There’s one problem: no one has ever seen Finch in person. All interviews must be conducted remotely, through audio messages and couriered notes — all of which seem oddly tailored to Miles’s own fears, memories, and thoughts.

As Miles begins writing, he finds passages from the memoir already written in his handwriting, in notebooks he doesn't remember owning. The further he dives into Finch’s story, the more his own life begins to morph: people he knows claim he’s already told them this story, his apartment starts shifting layouts daily, and he begins receiving rejection letters for books he’s never written — but which match scenes from the memoir verbatim.

Eventually, he learns that he may be a composite personality built out of abandoned drafts, ghostwritten manuscripts, and the psyches of authors long dead. Finch may be the sum total of everything left unwritten — a literary Jungian archetype, a self-aware fiction fighting to exist in the real world.