totally misses the point of Star Wars
made entirely to make manchildren feel better for liking a kids' franchise
totally misses the point of Star Wars
made entirely to make manchildren feel better for liking a kids' franchise
Andor exposes that it was a mistake to let the fat manchildren behind the cartoons make live action Star Wars.
True. The Mandalorian is unironically better. At least it “gets” Star Wars.
I don't know any children that enjoy Star Wars nowadays, it's a nostalgia series now.
I can't even imagine Luke in the same universe as this show
what was the point of star wars? to sell toys?
Why? Rouge One ends with ANH starting.
It's too depressing and adult for the franchise, the only CANON SW is 1-6 and they were all about the hero's journey. Star Wars is supposed to be hopeful and inspiring, the first movie is literally called A New Hope
I guess this sort of establishes why A New Hope is needed.
>made entirely to make manchildren feel better for liking a kids' franchise
You're talking about the Filoni projects.
the only CANON SW is 1-6
based. everything else is fan fiction tier.
Based
Your privileges for using the word based have been revoked for thinking the prequels aren't dogshit. You clearly have no ability to tell based from unbased.
Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit
ROTS is the best star wars movie and redeems the prequels.
Every Youtuber can't think of a reason they hate Luke in TLJ, they just dislike his arc because everyone else does. I even saw one of them complain that Luke is too different to his own character and one minute later say that Han was bad because he was the exact same character
What kind of mentally ill pussy thinks the top text represents good writing?
underprivileged monkey, only the ot trilogy follows hero's journey (for children)
the prequels follows a tragic hero arc (for manchildren)
andor follows the chad narrative (for adult chads)
He took Han and Leia out of his post after getting BTFO'd in a different thread.
Here's your (you), faggot.
whats the point of star wars?
It's honestly kind of difficult to imagine that the metaplot of Andor ultimately ends with a pure hearted psychic space samurai defeating the evil cackling space warlock with the help of his cyborg dad.
Imagine Luke, the Emperor, Yoda, Ashoka etc in the same universe as this show. You can't, manbaby
It's too depressing
How?
so what? Star Wars is a setting to tell stories. Lucas has been clear since before the OT was finished that he wanted to expand it into multi-media formats.
This but Kotor 2
It's literally the only piece of Star Wars media that actually shows why the Empire is bad, and for that it deserves massive praise.
Ever since it came out the amount of
le empire is actually le good guys
posting has basically evaporated across the entire fanbase and internet. It actually justified the conflict of the original movies by showing why people were fighting against the empire.
The prequels follow an authoritarian leader as he creates false flag terrorist attacks in order to increase his power. Lucas is directly commenting on George Bush.
The trilogy ends with Anakin slaughtering children, committing genocide and then being burned alive
Imagine Cassian just completely black pilling a young and hopeful Luke. Maybe he's better off dead. Also maybe a young hot shot naive pilot hero boy was exactly what he rebellion needed, it's called A New Hope after all. It kind of fits that after all that suffering in Andor a guiding light appears.
...Why not?
Is the rest of the galaxy just on pause when Luke leaves the room?
Is the emperor personally managing the burocracy of an entire galaxy?
Are you actually 12?
Haha I almost thought I was the only one who noticed
using ahsoka of all people as an example of a character fitting into this universe
Seriously?
The amount of manchildren whining here about this show is really hilarious.
Palpatine is mentioned like five times in this show, retard.
It is insane how good Andor is compared to every other jedislop show Disney shits out. If I was involved in any of those shows in any capacity I would have killed myself out of shame.
FPBP
Whatever happened to the blue kyber crystal pendant? Andor gave it to Vel to return it to Luthen but it never came up again.
only good SW movie (Empire) was directed by a jew and Speilberg was Lucas's #2 in the prequels
I can't even imagine Anakin being in the same Universe as OT Darth Vader
why didnt Vader force stop the rape?
I always felt like the Star Wars was more of a wild west meets fantasy world type setting, most planets were low population frontier worlds and the cities like Cloud City were very whimsical almost medieval. Making it some copy paste dark beurocratic cyberpunk world was super lame in the prequels, sequels making Orange County suburbs is even worse but I won't go there. Should have stayed a mixture of Wild West/Medieval europe/Feudal Japan.
This is not only jewish propaganda also factually wrong.
The story of Empire, the characters, the interactions everything was done by Lucas also he sawed the production disaster.
TL'DR seethe jew
If most planets were like that then it would defeat the purpose of Luke wanting to leave what he considered to be the farthest corner of the galaxy in ANH.
But even Cloud city had a different quality to it. More of a high fantasy setting.
Every piece of Star Wars media has shown why the empire is bad, but Andor fails to offer any kind of reasoning for why anybody would ever tolerate the empire’s presence to begin with. The empire sucks in literally every single facet. It sucks to be ruled by them, it sucks to work for them. It sucks if you’re poor, it sucks if you’re rich. The senator even mentioned that they don’t even reduce crime and murder rates despite all their supposed focus on law and order. They fucking crack down on illegal migrants on a farm planet despite literally nobody asking for it and hurt the empire’s own damn productivity in the process. Nobody benefits from the empires power structure except Palpatine, and given it spans an entire galaxy, it should have way more cracks than it does.
It's time to admit it's not 70s anymore and "the point of star wars" just isn't that good but more importantly it's been done to death, brought back to life and then done to death again.
Pretty sure the emperor is an evil wizard the only cares about creating a galaxy ruled by fear and chaos.
goyslop
It seemed clearly shown why people tolerate it is that it allows bullies and monsters like all the ISB directors to crush others, it allows those in the empire to take resources and oppress planets without justifying why they should live in relative comfort and other people should be slaves.
goys are mindless barnyard animals that happily accept slop
wewlad depressing
Andor fan: Star Wars? Of course it's my favorite franchise! I just dislike the you know ... light saber and spaceships and aliens and the force and all that stuff. I prefer mature themes like rape and how Trump and Palestine are the bad guys and Israel is the good guys.
speilberg makes prequels with lucas
meanwhile, thousands of palestinians die screaming daily
lolololol
muh palestine
absolutely obsessed brown
didn't even bother to remove the folded stock
pathetic, even for a slop war slop
pretty clear the rebels are meant to be palestinians, you even have the shrill progressive senator crying about muh genocide ceasefire now.
trump btw is having palestinians suffer on levels they never have in their history (which is why I voted for him 3 times and will a 4th)
kek summed it up
They literally spent three episodes arguing over getting the MC to fly a spaceship, you seething brownoid.
The empire in Andor is an allegory for Stalinist Russia, not Trump’s America.
not the sequels werent shit but i dont remember any orange county suburbs in them. only in the trailers for that skeleton crew show no one watched
As someone who likes Andor and voted Trump, I can’t see the connection between the empire and him. The empire is very cold, calculating and bureaucratic. Where do you see that in the trump administration?
0 jews and 537 palestinians have died screaming in the last 24 hours. Where is allah?
retarded leftie claims Andor is about current politics
retarded chud unquestioningly accepts this and gets really angry at the show
Ayy.
Obviously it's also heavily influenced by the Nazis, but I'd put it at about 80% soviet union in Andor.
whole galaxy of planets and people
can’t stand it when it doesn’t focus on the same six characters with laser swords and superpowers
To the retards who’re like this while also being Katarnfags, and I know you exist, I have to ask: did you ever care about him before Jedi Knight and Outcast? No way you got through Dark Forces given how you’re acting now.
The show sure showed us the whole galaxy of uh ... different alien races and the scope of said galaxy via uh ... space combat
Obviously it's also heavily influenced by the Nazis
It wasn’t though. The empire doesn’t give a shit about racial purity or idpolitics.
he doesn’t remember orenji and ESCHARUM
At least pretend you watched the show, rodent.
One of you fags swore it was kino and tricked me into watching it but yeah they had space California suburbs in it.
The empire doesn’t give a shit about racial purity or idpolitics.
Probably closer to Il Duce and friends than natsoc style fascism then.
Is that what they are supporting now? I honestly couldn't care less about which sand people are the latest victims and how we should send our soldiers there to die for them.
seethe, prequelcel
misses the point of Star Wars
There is a point to Star Wars other than being high fantasy made for children?
The millennial generation is the perma-manbabby generation. They are the only generation that even cares about Star Wars. Star Wars came out in the prime of Gen X's childhood but they completely abandoned Star Wars when they reached middle to late high school.
The prequels came out for the millennials. Gen X had long since outgrown Star Wars and showed no interest in the prequels. The prequels ruined Star Wars permanently in the minds of the general public. By the time the sequels came out, Star Wars was already thought of as a soulless corporate construct, a cash grab. When the word spread that the first move of the sequels was nothing more than a remake of the original 1977 Star Wars film, Star Wars died.
At the same time as the sequels emerged, the zoomers were already heavily attached to the Marvel ecosystem, and the alphas had zero interest in something they believe was made for old people.
Star Wars is dead now and in the future. Disney is literally making Star Wars for millennials now, and hoping that maybe a few of the children of millennials are going to get into Star Wars, but that is unlikely as the next wave of Marvel movies is going to drown out everything else and capture another generation of film enjoyers.
Make Star Wars about mythology and anthropology again. It's that simple.
It’s very clearly Stalinist USSR and nothing else. The empire is built entirely around one person (Palpatine), maintains its power through fear and paranoia, and state planning overrules natural economic planning. No right wing government would take a planet like Ghorman with a naturally productive economic system, and forcibly overhaul everything for the sake of energy independence and “the greater good”.
Yes, but the soviets didn't have the kino aesthetic or actual competent people in charge.
Well they did, but they all got purged, like they did in Andor. Shit maybe you're right.
Andor made me realize Gareth Edwards saved Rogue One.
They didn't overhaul anything, they needed a resource that only Ghorman had and needed to stoke a revolt so they would have a reason to go in and take over. Much closer to what the CIA did with Afghanistan and opium.
Cloud City was whimsical Flash Gordon future city shit, with Coruscant being that taken to the umpteenth level with multiple districts based on different ideas of what "The City of the Future" looked like with one cyberpunk nightlife area.
Naboo was just Renaissance-era Italy, Tatooine was the same wild west planet as always with its plot in Episode 2 being a rip off of The Searchers, Kamino is Flooded Cloud City, Geonosis was some fantastical Roman Coliseum, Utapau was full of sinkholes and caves where people rode around on dinosaurs like an old pulp novel, Mustafar is Hell, and you had that Mushroom Kingdom planet in the Order 66 montage.
Were those the weird cyborg mutts Andor met in the first season?
I don’t believe they were.
Pretty much
Pulp fairy tale space opera
Magic in space. Star Wars without the force is boring dogshit.
Luke, did I ever tell you about Cassian Andor?
Asoka
Lightsabers in the first scene
boring as shit
How is this possible? There were flashing lights, droids, explosions, force powers and everything.
Please explain.
Andor handled the force pretty well
youtu.be
You can add to mysticism and romantism by having a character that is sceptic of it to contrast the character that embraces it
NO SAAR IT DOES NOT REDEEM THE PREQUELS SAAR
Is there a single other piece of Star Wars media besides KotOR 2 which examines the horror of the Star Wars universe being defined by an eternal religious blood crusade between two groups of superpowered demigods and how horrifying that is to regular people.
I think that's pretty interesting. They could've even explored this in Andor, imagine a very grounded character like Luthen learning that the Empire is controlled by two superpowered eltrich beings who are the culimation of 1000 years of prophecy by an entire secret society of dark wizards.
The contrast between the super grounded feel of Andor's story and the truth of the Star Wars universe being total space fantasy that is as alien to the characters in Andor as it is to the audience would've been very interesting with a ton to explore imo.
Anon Babble continues to be a bunch of retards. andor does a great job of showing what life in star wars is like if you aren't a space wizard destined to save the galaxy. it sucks ass, you're fodder, your home exists as a set piece for imperial aggression
I didn’t watch a full 1 and a half seasons of Andor out of the gaslighting that it would be some complex political drama just to be gaslit yet again that it had lightsabers and the force. You could take that bullshit and put it right back up your ass.
The emperor is a career politician, he of all people would fit perfectly within the show, cover ups and setting up massacres are things he already skillfully acheived.
andor does a great job of showing what life in star wars is like if you aren't a space wizard destined to save the galaxy
And why would I care about that again? I’m not a manchild who’s obsessed with the details of a fictional star wars galaxy, I just want to see wizards in space, simple as.
cover ups and setting up massacres are things he already skillfully acheived
But enough of those outdated political concepts, what about the crimes that a REAL emperor would commit? Let's see ... allying with another tyrant? Sexual assault? Goading the people into kidnapping political rivals?
Now that's something Star Wars should look forward to.
I just want Sith/Imperials doing cool stuff because "human supremacism" and I can't get it.
because the franchise has more to offer than lightsabers, something even george didn't understand. thankfully, steven spielberg did and that's why we barely see them in the original trilogy
Why do Andor and Kotor 2 filter retards so hard?
damn I miss kotor
with a nice big retcon
I'm not a man child
I just want mandchild shit
Yeah okay pal.
It was fun so stfu
Mate, ROTS literally has Anakin commit a school shooting. Star Wars always had dark stuff in it
Your complaints are inane.
If you want half-baked space dramas, just watch Star Trek you dipshit.
allying with another tyrant
He was working together with darth tyrannus/count dooku duting the clone wars, he just happened to get him killed once he was no longer useful, just like he had done to his master.
sexual assault
Well now Rey Palpatine had to come from somewhere. But more seriously the scene in andor is remarcably restrained compared to what goes on in some other tv series and in real life, you'd think it was some r-rated onscreen performance from the whining about it. That you can accept so much brutal violence but so little sexual violence in the same media says more about your values than the shows', and it still was a lot less gratuitous than jabba the hut enslaving Leia
goading the people into kidnappjng political rivals
That's supposed to be worse than straight up killing them personally?
Don’t compare the masterpiece that is KOTOR 2 to slop like Andor.
star trek is half-baked
now I know you're a retard
Andor is so much more mature than your video game slop
Ba-zing!!!
Trekkie likes Star Wars when isn’t Star Wars
Many such cases
What a retarded, ugly drivel. Gotta love this absolutely non-descriptive, cowardly shit, that is too embarrassed to fully commit to it. You just know Gilroy did not want even this tame scene to be in his show. He is an atheist Stalinist.
Only children are obsessed with maturity.
Star Wars is ONLY supposed to be for children and fun...
But does it? Why can't we get a Game of Thrones-like Star Wars show? You mean to tell me that wouldn't be kino?
t. immature edgy teen
It's too depressing and adult for the franchise
Star Wars without the force is boring dogshit.
I just want to see wizards in space, simple as
It's commie feminist propaganda slop where all the evil characters are blue eyed white people and all the heroes are brown mystery meat. It's the same Jewish slop as the rest of the series and not even intelligently written and the fact Star Wars fans act like it's Citizen Kane just shows they're all moronic reddit retards
second season immediately starts with spic hero telling fat black girl how important she is
If you kept watching I feel so sorry for you, the propaganda is so blatant its actually embarrassing. No wonder braindead reddit communists who glaze hamas terrorists are stroking to this shit
Can't have interesting things, here is your mexican immigrant allegory.
How many teens have played an obscure rpg title released in 2004?
t. manchild who needs his space wizard story to be mature for mature consumers like himself
If this is intelligent, mature content to you, you're an actual tard
I'm a princess and I dont wanna get married
all white people are le evil fascists
communist rebellion and communist manifestos are actually le based!!
a woman beating up her potential rapist is actually super realistic and totes cool and progressive
No but I'm not 13 so your mileage may vary.
unironically glazes and simps for disney star wars
calls other people manchildren
Life is already depressing enough, why do you also want to see depressing fiction?
They watch youtube essays about how deep Kreia is. They don't play video games.
How is Andor any darker than ROTS? Maybe s02e08 but otherwise nah.
Kotor 2 was good because of what said. Andor has none of that. It’s fictional political drama that’s less entertaining than just real life politics.
stop spamming about this show no one cares this site is dead. Go back
I’m not a manchild
I just want to see wizards in space
Imagine Luke, the Emperor, Yoda, Ashoka etc in the same universe as this show
just did, what now?
What color is Luke's lightsaber?
100% buck broken
green
communist rebellion and communist manifestos are actually le based!!
The empire is the soviet union you absolute fucking retarded, undereducated brainlet.
Read a fucking book, not everything is about current day politics.
And then explain to me how Nemiks manifesto is in any fucking way compatible with communism.
Luke doesn't have a lightsaber in Andor-verse. Lightsabers are lame and for children, they are too silly for mature Gilroy storytelling for adults. He rocks P90 instead.
Wtf, I can't imagine the lightsaber or the color
>all white people are le evil fascists
This entire season was about how the whitest frenchmen you’ve ever seen were getting massacred, you delusional mutt.
George Lucas literally based the Empire off Nazi Germany you imbred troglodyte. Nazis are so fucking stupid.
Kleya is made for ass-poundings
Lucas also said the empire was based off the Bush Administration. He’s a retard who can’t be trusted to analyze his own work, and had no part in writing the empire as it’s portrayed in Andor.
Manchildren don't care about maturity. That's part of the point of the term.
they just dislike his arc because everyone else does.
...
luke avoids the dark side, defeats emperor, saves father
father vader gains humanity back
vader is redeemed, luke understands
fast forward
luke tries to kill his nephew cause...?
makes no sense dude
Can someone explain to me why Gilroy is so renown as a writer?
I'd take it t b h
Michael Clayton
No idea. I never heard of him before Andor. Apparently he did some Oscar-bait movie in the mid 00's and won an Oscar for it. He also did Bourne flicks, which I never bothered with, since they seemed like yet another generic early 00's blockbuster.
Bush Administration
????
>I'm a princess and I dont wanna get married
That's the exact opposite of what happens in the show. Confirmed for never having watched it
>all white people are le evil fascists
Again, there is no anti-White messaging what so ever, which you'd known if you'd actually watched the show
>>communist rebellion and communist manifestos are actually le based!!
This doesn't happen.
Why are you so intent on criticizing something you clearly haven't watched beyond commentary by le hecking based youtube niggers?
disney made a realistic show to teach people how to defeat chuds
the way forward is to have everything set up as if palpatine wasn't an evil wizard (he is; but he shouldn't be using the force for this stupid shit)
He rocks P90 instead.
i'd watch 100%
all white people are le evil fascists
Eve&doe Dedra's rival in the ISB in the first season was an absolute mutt.
Why can't Americans spell rogue?
because it's kino
Why are you so intent on criticizing something you clearly haven't watched beyond commentary by le hecking based youtube niggers?
Because absolutely anything and everything produced under the Disney name in current year is bad o algo, no exceptions