Doctor Who

Holy fricking shit...
Doctor who is BACK.
RTD SAVED US..
LETS GOOOOOOOO

what am i looking at

doctor who fans are going nuts on twitter

I believe it, it certainly makes the weird "smacked bottom" line actually make sense

I'm a chud and still think that the latest episode was the best Who has been in years, it genuinely felt like something straight out of the old RTD era. Shooty also finally getting to be le dark and serious Doctor rather than just fucking crying every episode was great.

It's the the Rani aka Mrs Flood during her bi-regeneration.
This show is totally retarded now. First they establish that Time Lords can change gender when regenerating by turning the Master into "Missy" - even though the original canon has "Time Ladies" (Romana & the Rani).
Now they have bi-regeneration when the character splits into two versions of the same gender.
It's just bat shit insane, because regeneration is supposed to happen when the character is basically dying and regenerates to save themselves.
Now it's just some kind of weird mitosis and Both versions survive. NuWho has done a lot to get rid of 'gendering' the Time Lords and now they bring back a legacy character that refers to herself as "a Time Lady" and is still female.

disaffected youth

sex-coded death

Why are Brits so fucking gay?

look at what lefty whofags are saying in response to the episode on leddit/xwitter/youtube reactions

"the episode was bad because the Corporation/Hellion thing was clearly an Isreal/Palestine allegory and saying murdering trillions as revenge isn't a good form of protest is bad, guy that wanted to massacre trillions was the good guy, ackshually"

holy fuck leftoids are actually so fucking insane and deranged, why are they like this? Do they seriously not realise how fucking crazy they seem to most people? How did they even get to this point?

They can not enjoy stories as stories. It has to always be an allegory for something. They're gay nerds after all.

calling a terrorist babes and honey

before electro-torturing him on the floor

Based, he didn’t even care about The Corporation just fucked off

Maybe colonialism and mercantilism from a few centuries ago? (That we should all STILL feel bad about.)

'Colony in Space' hit the same themes, it was written by an outright Marxist, but it was also genuinely good. I think a big part of the problem is squeezing these stories into 45 minutes rather than multi-part episodes.
This had a 10 second flashback of the Tiefling planet. Almost as well-developed as the 15-second flashback of Belinda's incel nice guy toxic abuser. In both cases, AFTER the reveal/evil plan, almost like a coda.

Don't forget that using the term Time Lady is bad because Ladies are supposedly subordinate to Lords despite Missy saying it's an upgrade.

From what we've seen so far, when they bi-generate timelords get progressively darker in skin tone. After three of these they'll have the color of a black hole.

It was good when Capaldi was briefly blind and Tennant being terrified of not being himself

The difference between Hulke and writers now is he was earnest in his beliefs and even when being unabashed he both understood what his audience wanted and he did not hate them.

Big crossover event bringing together the characters from Doctor Who, Class, and Starz Torchwood.

Maybe a cameo by the kids from Dark Season, and it all ties into the new Sea Devil/UNIT show.

apparently the actual real-life Eurovision really is funded/sponsored by Israel or something which is why they think the allegory is intentionally there (also the fact that the land of Canaan in the Bible/Torah is called 'the land of milk and honey' and the Poppy Honey thing with the Hellion planet)
so basically the episode is supposedly trying to do a commentary on this about the Eurovision... and the lefty audience is like 'but massacring people in protest is justified though, muh oppressed palis can do no wrong.' Whether this connection is actually intentional and not them being schizos and reaching I dunno, I'm curious as to when this episode was actually written and if it really is intended like that (Dot and Bubble for example was apparently originally written for 11's era years ago and repurposed despite how Current Event(tm) it seemed)

but massacring people in protest is justified though

They believe this while crying about fascism.

and it all ties into the new Sea Devil/UNIT show.

the series is set to feature UNIT as they attempt to prevent a global war caused by the return of the Sea Devils.

Genocide them, Kate.

Omega is all but confirmed since he was part of the leak dump which included the Doctor meeting Doctor Who fans, the Midnight sequel, the Fugitive Doctor showing up last week, Susan returning, and Mrs Flood being the Rani and bi-generating.

the Fugitive Doctor

I must have missed this - I'm only keeping up through these threads. What did they do with her?

Agree. The Doctor should have some fear otherwise his bravado means nothing.

Eccleston sells being terrified of the Dalek in Dalek. The unease the Doctor has over the Beast knowing about the Time War and claiming to be before time.

AS IF 4 didn't wear a hat

I thought bigeneration was rare? Also, pretty interesting that jeetrani has her hair done up nice despite being a new lifeform

Yep, feels like being talked down to.

youtube.com/watch?v=fdWCVJ9i8Qo&t=69s
Miss little moments like this. Alien culture shock =/= racism, you alien little shit.

7th

I like in that episode where the Doctor needs to come up with a gift and his solution is air from my lungs. That's the sort of guile and alien yet not too alien mindset the Doctor needs.

Last week they went to Africa and the Doctor meets a character who he remembers meeting when he was the Fugitive Doctor (despite the fact he's not supposed to remember being her). Its funny because she doesn't appear in a flashback like you'd expect, the Doctor just spontaneously turns into her for 5 seconds whilst speaking with the character (presumably for the audience and not literally). Really it was just a very transparent excuse to have the other black Doctor appear in the black episode.

Kinda like how Jodie appeared with dyed blonde hair and ears that had been pierced.

Regeneration would be cooler if it was more body horror-esque instead of flashing lights like in the TV movie or here youtu.be/BX0Y6YvuIsM?si=mb4oeYnOUE6tigfy These guys are aliens. Embrace the nasty.

i forgot about the piercings

Shit over Rassilon again, as is Tradition

I stopped watching the Flash too early.

Yeah, based on the rest of the writing and that the show itself is fine in the end, I'm leaning towards schizo shit.

Remember when Lawrence Miles (VNA author) thought picrel was a racist, xenophobic attack against asylum seekers coming to the UK?
lawrencemiles.blogspot.com/2005/04/unquiet-dead.html

Follow-up once he'd calmed down, turns out he actually does have schizophrenia:
lawrencemiles.blogspot.com/2005/04/doctor-who-season-x-1-unquiet-dead.html
;_;

The costumes resembling pigs, chameleons, vultures, and wasps were created for the Coldplay music video for Trouble in Town.[7]

You now know that the Most Expensive Episode of Doctor Who Evar! had to recycle aliens from a fucking five year old music video

millenniumfx.co.uk/portfolio-item/animal-masks-coldplay/

The thing to think about Hulk is his friendship and working with Terrance Dicks. Hulke and Dicks were ideologically different, and in general the writers and producers came from different backgrounds and outlooks. The problems now are threefold. Firstly, the vast majority of are all of a similar outlook - and often have little experience in writing or are only experienced in writing. Secondly, they lack any nuances and subtly, and think it is a good thing if they piss the audience off. Thirdly, Doctor Who has been dominated/controlled by the same circle for 20 years (even longer if you include their works in the Wilderness Years - to put in perspective RTD2 is like Innes Lloyd produce from 1966-1968 coming back to run the show in 1988. So no differing ideas, no new ideas, an no respect for the audience.

The Unquiet Dead

Shame no one listened. Now that's an episode we need today.

Funny how they did consider bringing back Patrick Troughton in the 80's(and Tom Baker in the 90's), but rightly realised they had to move forward.

shitloads of unique aliens at a concert

They did it better last time.

Yes, Sydney Jewman suggested bringing back Troughton and then having the Doctor become a woman. But then Troughton fucked a Jo Martin an died. Fucking hero that man is.

Nah, you don't get rid of the undesirables by turning OFF the gas supply...

Bi-regeneration feels like a terribly interpreted version of the other Doctor growing from that hand before.

I liked this guy and the funny alien head characters but nothing else at all

I have seen black people watching it.

A 15 year old who won a competition would have more talent then the actual Dr who writers

you watching them like birds?

oh and the hell girl, the scottish(?) one

Every current companion the Doctor has is the most important woman in the whole universe.

I'd bet money on his next two seasons just being daleks and master again

they should try bringing back the doctor.

When you look at it a lot of NuWho was just treading water or getting too caught-up on the past. That says nothing about whatever pillaging from EU stuff or just recycling ideas from Classic. By RTD2 you have full-blown regression of Nu itself with both RTD's return and with 14th.

Could combine all those hotel schemes into one, I suppose.

Shooty also finally getting to be le dark and serious Doctor

The problem is he's fucking terrible at it, every time he tries to be threatening he just sounds like he's itching to suck your dick.

the african one or the eurovision one? the african one was on par with a mediocre mid-season RTD1 episode, which in this day and age is a very good episode

Other than the issues with the people working on it, I do wonder if the nature of NuWho just in the medium and long term undermined it. With RTD1 you get the intent to make it so mass appeal by making it that character relationship and drama heavy, along with both the self-inserting aspect of the female companion taking a hold and you have the increasing escalation of season finales. With Moffat you get mystery boxes and pondering about the lore & character. When you look at a lot of that stuff brought about by the two of them it: detracts from the episodic nature of the show which overtime can lock people out if they are casual; it is not sustainable to keep trying to one-up the end of the world event or be more clever than the last seasons mystery; if you fail with the season arc you simply fail as a whole or at least tarnish the episodes within it; the audience/fanbase has expanded to such broad extent that it is not clear what the target audience is, which means it is a balancing act of trying to please everyone which means you can please no one and huge segments will leave if you do not pander to them which means it gets deemed a failure of the show when they go. There is almost an element of Doctor Who burning itself out, and so quickly as well. That short term popularity was chosen over long term stability and ability to keep it going.

Seeing him desperate to get out of the room in Dalek was the only time I thought the Daleks were scary.

In one of the commentary videos, RTD compared Ruby Sunday to Rey from Star Wars. He, correctly, preferred her as an ordinary person with ordinary parents.

Belinda is just some nurse. She's not a bi-generation of Susan, or the Rani's daughter, or I SWEAR TO GOD RUSSELL

He, correctly, preferred her as an ordinary person with ordinary parents.

I am still fucking baffled you are supposed to belief Ruby's mysterious christmas powers, the fairy circle shit, EVERYTHING weird about her was just Sutekh having cosmic glaucoma and being unable to tell an unwanted british bint from a potential rival.

They really did an episode in the backrooms

is torchwood still a thing

Predates it the Backrooms. Liminal spaces have long been drawn upon either consciously or subconsciously by creatives even if the majority of audiences did not know the term or the concept was not as popular.

Dan Stevens for the new Doctor Who

Dan Stevens would probably could be a good Doctor, because he can act and would not just play himself.

OVERNIGHT FIGURES ARE IN

EPISODE 6 HAD AN AVERAGE VIEWING FIGURE OF 2.6M

Don't tease me with something i'll never have.

Wasn't it sandwiched between the FA Cup finale and Eurovision? Does it count people who had the TV on 5 minutes after or before watching them.

That says nothing about whatever pillaging from EU stuff

Mostly from the 8th Doctor.

1st companion's a blonde who falls in love with the Doc (Sam/Charley/Rose)

Destroys Gallifrey to end a Time War

has a hot blonde daughter (Miranda/Jenny)

spaceship over London (Dying Days/Christmas Invasion)

kisses his companions

stays in one place to protect it for hundreds of years (Orbis/Trenzalore)

finds his future corpse (Alien Bodies/Name of the Doctor)

Helped that they redesigned it to look less ridiculous. Too bad it's still just a slow mini-tank you can easily outrun. Cybermen would've been cooler.

Seriously why is anyone still watching this show? I was never into it but it’s obviously completely shit now. Why not put that time you spend watching this slop to use and just let this shit die?

Reboot it with him in the role. Wipe the slate clean.

Who sisters.....we are back
Maybe we won't even be cancelled

He can change, I say, as my love beats me. He can change, and he said he would.

How will the chuds cope?

Why did we just surrender nerd culture to the queers?

Since she is an indian monster you have to assign high value to her.

It is really sad how they don't even try to hide the fact they know that what people believe and think is based off the media they consume. They used to be subversive with their propaganda now they don't even try.
It is just here "worship this nigger" here "worship this indian cunt". Then people do!

The nerds just wanted friends and realised too late they were an invasive group. It explains the rise of "alt right grifters" who appeal to the nerds that just want their space back

Most anons are not. They are just morbidly curious about the latest baffling or shitshow decision making that they learn by the few anons that do outlining, posting webms. A lot of the time these threads are just discussing old stuff, and even if nominally about the latest episode they become that or shitposting. It is like how Star Trek threads rarely and barely talk about the new stuff, beyond reacting to how bad it is and shitting over it.

He'd have to beat off a lot of British actors...

This is true. I made up a lie about the latest episode a few threads ago and I've seen it repeated here. I not watched a new episode since The Timeless Child

No it's the average viewership across the entire slot. The peak viewership will be close to 3m.

Shame you missed the masterpiece episode The Giggle.

He would have to beat off a lot of men to get the part
youtube.com/watch?v=ovIly_QFRiw

I liked the RTD1 designs for the Daleks and Cybermen. They looked industrial and sturdy.

Wow, still lower than The Fux despite being sandwiched between two popular events.

Bragging about a ratings boost caused by footy and Eurovision isn't the win he thinks it is
But it's funny to see him admit that without it then it almost certainly would have declined further

Live TV is dead outside of live events tbqh

Because corporations are in control of it and they have spend the last 10-15 years either cynically allied to such groups or, (what increasingly happened through such cynical support for said groups giving way to organisations being transformed to earnestly believe it) such groups entrenched themselves into corporations & the media. A lot of this goes back to corporate concern over widespread backlash to the 2008 financial crisis, so they started supporting these things to either divide any united left-right call for change or to stop the left going on about economic reform by shifting them to focus on social/cultural affairs.

How is 8 gay?

Too bad about the loud ass footsteps.

So the Doctor had the Two Tone Chromed Edition sonic screwdriver this episode, pink instead of the usual blue.

What other imaginative Character Options merchandise would you like to see in the show, /who/?

How is that a screwdriver?

Why does BBC almost passive aggressively pander? It's like they jump through so many hoops to NOT have a straight white man be a good guy. In fact the only recent episode with a straight white guy, he turns out to be an evil internet conspiracy theorist

It just is. They wanted to make it less like a gun so American children won't imitate it.

That's why in this episode he uses it to shoot robots and blow up a doomsday cube.

It's because geeky tech types are neurotic and evil. Probably incels, too.

Except when it's the Doctor. Then he's a charismatic genius, and everyone SHOULD listen to him.

It just is. They wanted to make it less like a gun so American children won't imitate it.

I find it ridiculous that RTD did the whole "we must change the screwdriver because we don't want people pointing it like a gun/knife!" thing because... it was him that started it. The screwdriver in classic was held up vertically like an ice cream cone, RTD in 2005 was the one who turned it into a laser that gets pointed at things.

The old show liked to shit on non-nerd types because the nerd writers were still seething at the "jocks" for being likable and popular.

So should Harry Potter get rid of their wands now? Are they that fucked in the head?

AAAH HE'S EVIL BECAUSE... BECAUSE... BECAUSE HE WANTS UNIT TO NOT KEEP WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION SECRET

In all fairness, it looks better that way. And it was better in series 1 when it looked like it took some time and tinkering to use, no psychic "think and click" bullshit.

Think that was just Robert Pattinson.

The old show liked to shit on non-nerd types

Like who? All the named UNIT soldiers were fine. Sabalom Glitz was a cool guy. I suppose Jamie was the butt of a few jokes.

Ian took down a Roman soldier with a single thumb. Even Venusian karate isn't that powerful.

I suppose Jamie was the butt of a few jokes.

Which are more to do with Jaime being a man out of time and were never nasty.

What does 15th even use it for in his episodes?

The show has fallen into the trap of thinking "there's no hard canon" somehow means "continuity and rules are meaningless." In the long term being careless about this can kill a franchise. Now there's too many secret Doctors and clones popping up, Gallifrey keeps flipping on and off like a lightswitch, the universe has ended and been reborn several times, companion fates are getting retconned or reversed on a whim, you can just duplicate the TARDIS by whacking it with a hammer, scifi logic and technobabble have been replaced by outright magic and god-pantheons, etc. An overload of these things can make a franchise feel shambolic, like nothing matters.

Also NuWho was best when it deftly walked the tonal line. When as a kid it's like a cool forbidden adult show, and as an adult you notice it's a family show that doesn't really feel like a kid's show due to its frequent forays into horror or moral relativism or heavy drama. NuWho hasn't always toed this tonal line perfectly but Gatwa's era... well S01 opened with Space Babies.

Yeah they don't do the Mickey or Rory thing, which is a fair criticism.

And I'm looking at traditionally masculine men, but who aren't "problematic". They don't get shit on?

Other than what the other reply as said of what examples, what about the other extreme of Adric? I would not say the show shits on him, but the Doctor in both his Fourth and Fifth incarnations gets pissed off with him.

Was the terrorist dude the only straight white male in the episode?

Think it was Post-Remembrance that it started to head towards that.

Twitter lefties are turning on the show

Crazy how they can't understand that killing billions of people is never justified.

Indians own britain

and they say the right misread the show.

the likes of Hamas (who these fucking freaks are referring to whenever they talk about ""muh freedom fighters"") quite literally ARE misguided violent wackos who want to kill indescriminately IN REAL LIFE
the fact that these leftist fuckwits can't see this and think it's justifiable somehow and are genuinely literally unironically at the point where they're like 'killing people including children and even rape are completely ok and morally good in response to being oppressed' is so fucking crazy to me. How the fuck are these people actually real and just casually walking amongst the rest of us on a day to day basis? How can you think shit like this and not have a moment of reflection of how fucking insane and evil it is? Actual mental illness
The world has literally gone mad

Killing three trillion civilians > slow, non-violent """direct action""" and protest.

Those tweeters are not revolutionaries, they are cowards.

Just remember Twitter is not real life, and they're in their own little bubble.
It's basically an evolution of Tumblr, in fact the same userbase jumped ship there.

god missy was such a hot crazy hag. you have no idea if she'd suck you dry or vaporize you

Footy enjoyers leave the telly on

Gays tune in early to watch Eurovision

WHAT A FUCKING WIN FOR DOCTOR WHO

Somebody should write a Doctor Who episode with the Daleks in which there's like some straggling remnant of Daleks fighting to survive somewhere and when the Doctor shows up to stop their plan to kill billions of people through some macguffin the Daleks are like "exterminating our oppressors is justified because we're a minority being persecuted''
I wonder how lefty fags would respond to that

based on my understanding of tumblr logic, he said hello to a man once

Has every single villain been a White man?

He has the look of a good Doctor.

they got to this point because their world view, which would have been normally rejected by the masses, was instead propped up by The Establishment, billionaires, and corporations with absolutely no questioning or criticism being allowed lest you be removed from "polite society". Now we're here where the most vile people have had their insane world view reinforced to such a degree they now believe they are the resistance and good guys.

doesn't really matter now though because the money has dried up and reality has come a knockin'

Ep1

incel white man

Ep2

blue cartoon man

Ep3

Midnight entity

Ep4

right wing white man

Ep5

black man

Ep6

one dimensional white man

50% of villains have been straight white men so far.

He kind of looks like Sam Witwer.

No, the guy in the African barbershop episode was a black man
the Midnight entity was also an invisible nondescript being of no racial character
Mrs Flood/Rani is an old white woman and New Rani is an Indian woman

The guy you posted looks kinda gay. The eyebrows and pouted lips give it away.

Sutekh having cosmic glaucoma and being unable to tell an unwanted british bint from a potential rival.

You just gotta headcanon it as being Omega fucking with Sutekh from behind the scenes.

Now we're here where the most vile people have had their insane world view reinforced to such a degree they now believe they are the resistance and good guys.

How can they be the resistance when the establishment was supporting them? You can't be counter-culture if the culture's in your favor.

t. fugly dork

We don't sign our posts

Rest easy in the knowledge that when the masses get their say (actual Eurovision last night) they hugely back Israel.

literally who?

celebrating 20 years of revival

At least they finally did SOMETHING.

Kino, even RTD's most diehard fans think he's a fucked up human being

it's a strange scenario in which the establishment was supporting them to a point while they themselves kept being like 'the establishment is still not left enough, even though all the corpos and media are on our side we're still gonna call them facists for being right of Stalin because they don't want literal communism and are capitalists'
somehow they never cottoned onto the fact that they were just temporary useful pawns for the capitalist establishment and their fringe bullshit could easily be integrated into the system - now the pendulum is swinging the other way and the leftoids are getting dropped like rocks now that they're not financially beneficial anymore since they overplayed their hand and normalfags have woken up to how fucking crazy they are so they're going full retard, even in response to shows like Who that are still staggered behind due t development time with lefty messaging

Had to double-check the writer wasn't a 15-year-old who won a competition or something.

No, it's a diversity hire tranny.

This guy.

The books implied he had a homosexual relationship with another Time Lord.

I noticed this the most last year when, at the cinema, there was nowhere anywhere that listed what films were showing (let alone times), while the mandatory pride flags were everywhere.

We get a white and hindu woman as villains and the super mario 64 hand creature for the season finale. So it balances out

How do you know the time lord wasn't female when it happened?

Other things the youtuber brings up in the comments

"Male presenting timelord"

DNA tracking of humans saving the day which is seen as Big Brother

Almost killing a man on a livestream when you're the government's agency

Also the main defense from leftists mad at the youtuber is "Well he didn't know better." Yet there's still no consequences for the Doctor, his relationship isn't rattled with Belinda, etc. Remember consequences? Remember when 10th tried to be Time Lord Victorious and so a woman killed herself because of his actions? Remember when Clara freaked out on 12th for leaving her to make the decision for humanity?

I miss consequences in the show.

Institutions know better than the unwashed masses because they're all run by elitist lefties. Everyone knows this. Know your place.

As I said yesterday, up to Journey's End and then the new paradigm the show used to keep track of and explain the status of the Daleks. Since then it's just ''Whatever, here's some Daleks again'.

elitist lefties

IE nerds.

The show has been tainted forever from Jodie beginning her tenure and it's been getting beat to death repeatedly ever since. The EU might have gotten away with the timeless child, an incarnation identical to a previous, and maybe even whatever the hell they're doing with 15, but they've done all this in the show itself. It's set in stone forever. No amount of retcons or undoing can wash away the stink.

Stopped watching after giving Jodie a chance, which she wasted. I've gone back and watched the Hinchcliffe-Holmes era instead of the new stuff. I'm wanting to watch some of Troughton's tenure and maybe Pertwee's as well, but not too sure where to begin.

Remember anons, the good stuff still exists despite the shit they've been producing since 2018.

It followed The Well, where in a cast of 13 there was (I think) one single white guy.

Reboot. No geeky Crisis shit where some stuff counts. Full clean slate. Back to ZERO.

That's stupid though, you can't just wipe away over 60 years of Doctor Who.

They're rolling grandad out with a oxygen tank, one of those little defibrillators, he blinks every once in a while and they say see he's still alive

No geeky Crisis shit where some stuff counts. Full clean slate.

They wouldn't be able to do it. There's just no way. Maybe for awhile but not for it's entirety. Eventually there'd be a revelation that this universe was created after Gatwa had to pull a Big Bang 3 in the old universe before the two became one again. Some shit like that.

We're long overdue an appearance of the Anti Time Device

You weren't even alive for most of those years, my guy. Enough with the sentimental shit. Enough with the "historical value" you nerds like to attach to outdated shit that was surpassed by better works. The whole thing's fucked. Best to nuke it and start over.

He doesn't recognise Starkiller

You have to be at least 18 years old to post here.

Exactly why it never works. Because there's always gonna be some geek who wants to bring the past shit back as a way of shocking the viewers.

OH SHIT! IT WAS A SEQUEL THE WHOLE TIME!

Holy fucking shit I remember this. I got this as a gift when I was 6 or something. It had 3 options for blaster sound effects and then one option that was a combination of all three. The handle was huge, especially when given to a child, and felt awkward to hold. The eyestalk on mine didn't even work, but god did I use to run about with it pretending to be a Cyberman, but one of the 80s Classic Era ones since we had Earthshock and Silver Nemesis on the classic DVDs.

God...

Different anon, but I think it is fucked regardless. Say they do reboot hard. Well, unless things more generally change significantly then it will be the same shit as now. Even if improved considerably it is as a level that is just elevating absolute dogshit to dogs hit. Also, they could just as easily bring in the worst aspects of the original, either from the outset or incrementally, and be unbound by any nominal constraints of the original. Maybe doomer take, but I just think it is over. You cannot resolve the current run, they will not pull off a new run as we would want it to be.

Still gay

Who would've been a better enemy in the Time War?

Cybermen

Vampires

Omega

OC

Time Lord civil war.

I just think it is over. You cannot resolve the current run, they will not pull off a new run as we would want it to be.

This. They at least had a decent foundation to work off of when bringing it back. No matter how they approach it they'd never be able to top what came before. How the hell would there ever be another episode like 'Dalek'?

Speaking of which, have the Daleks ever been used well in anything other than Dalek, Remebrance, Genesis and the Cushing movies?

Depends on how it presents itself

Pulp adventure

Sci-Fi Horror

Gothic Horror

Tech Noir

I tried catching up with nuwho but the further I go, the more obvious it becomes that it's a zombie. any sense of "this is actually the same show about the same man that is constantly made and written by different people but it's still the same thing with the same soul" disappears once the woman doctor arrives, and nothing ever again feels like it's the same show. it works with the same name, tries to fly the same colors, but it feels like a stranger pretending to be someone you know

They just need to cast a middle aged weirdo white male. It's the golden ticket. They can deny it all they want, but it's the only way to save the franchise. If the actor playing the Doctor is interesting enough, they can power through shit writing with charisma alone

Ahem

FUCK DALEKS

FUCK CYBERMEN

EAT ANTI TIME

Rebooting entirely would make the show unrecognisable, and not in a good way. You'd be pissing off every fan to grab a temporary new audience. Awful.

So The Master?

the people making this show will NEVER admit this because the implication behind it is uncomfortable (most people find it more entertaining and interesting to watch a stern white man getting shit done, and all the pride parade stuff they supposedly champion is actually boring or unappealing to the masses)

Speaking of which, have the Daleks ever been used well in anything other than Dalek, Remebrance, Genesis and the Cushing movies?

Power of the Daleks and Evil of the Daleks are both peak Dalek. Shame is you need to watch them reconstructed as only the audio fully survives. I cannot see remember if all of Power footage is missing, but Evil is 7-parts and it is something like only 1 part has existing original footage.

You'd be pissing off every fan to grab a temporary new audience. Awful.

The show's already done enough of that to begin with. What is there to lose?

Seems like something Abslom Daak would use

I let it be known that we were looking for a new Doctor and made my requirements very specific. He's got to have a certain charisma, a certain thing that made you want to watch him even if what was going on on the screen wasn't particularly interesting. He should be wild, he should be eccentric, something that was different. - Barry Lets on casting the Fourth Doctor

...and what did it get them? Tom motherfucking Baker. You've cracked the code anon

Restart with 7th regenerating cause no fucking way Paul McGann says he'll come back

8th Doctor replicates some of the crueler aspects of 7th, only heightened after having lost Ace

Not full on horror but darker themes with show aimed at a more teenager/adult demographic. Don't want to just be a black mirror clone

Stop holding punches about politics. Don't just go "X is bad" fucking show the horrors that could be caused by your topic

E.x. A corporation that runs a candy factory where kids are tortured to create the candy. Even after its exposed in the news, people just shrug because it's not their kids being harmed. Or it's brushed under the rug because the candy company pays off the news outlet. Villain argues that everything people enjoy requires sacrifice and that if these sacrifices are never made, no one would ever get the luxuries of life they desire. Doctor bankrupts the candy company and taunts the villain into killing themselves.

"Sacrifices have to be made to better our society. Your words I recall."

I was thinking more two factions rather than anything with The Master. Maybe something like interventionists vs non-interventionists? Or Time Lord civilisations from two different timelines and it is competing for which timeline win.

they can power through shit writing with charisma alone

This is what carried a lot of classic and nuwho through its rougher patches. I rewatched series 7 recently and while I still maintain it's an ultimately bleh set of episodes, I realize now they're still alright because Smith really sells this idea of an aging 11th Doctor. Episodes like Journey to the TARDIS are Chibnall tier when you look at them on paper, but they give Smith a chance to be an unpredictable manipulative cunt so it ends up working somehow because he makes it work. Whereas if you placed Whittaker or Gatwa in his spot I think the series would feel so much worse.

The way the show is now is still salvageable and you'll always get people buying any random Doctor Who shit. You're forsaking that revenue to chase at best temporary success for a season or two before the new fans get bored and you're left with nothing because the die hards got betrayed.

The idea there's no hard canon has never been true anyway. There's always been canon. The fact that the Doctor travels through time in a police box etc.
The fact is that trying to document a 60 year old franchise through the likes of Tardis Wiki doesn't work, because it wasn't designed for that. Continuity wasn't purposely disregarded like it is now, it was simply a case of writers forgetting certain things.
The idea there's no canon was merely pushed by the likes of Paul Cornell who were seething that their shitty OCs weren't being accepted by all the fandom. These people have utterly fucked the franchise now though since now the idea is effectively official and now nothing matters because the Doctor can be literally anything you want.

For me, it's Eccleston

The problem is that RTD definitely cast Ncuti thinking he was super charismatic and that audiences would love him. But he's so out of step with what normal people like because he's been in a LGBTQ+ bubble for decades

This is the problem. If there is a 16th Doctor, they’ll just double down with the stunt casting. There won’t be another charismatic straight white male in this role, because that’d be admitting defeat

Not sure it’s still salvageable under the current showrunner. Maybe they could compromise and give Gatwa an open ended regeneration, then start with an unnumbered incarnation with missing memories a few years later. Anything post 2017 should never be referenced again

Does /who/ prefer The Doctor Falls, Twice Upon A Time, or The Giggle as a ending for the series?