Have you chuds repented for not liking this fictional character?

Brainlets hate Skyler because she nags Walt.
Smart people realize its Walts fault that she's such a nagging bitch to begin with.

a double standard

she's not real, i don't care

The director was baffled that people didn't like her.

Whats the context of that comment though?
Just season 1 Skyler? If so that comment makes no sense. She's clearly written to be antagonistic at the start so the audience builds sympathy for Walt and is more willing to go along for the meth ride with him.
By the end I have a lot more sympathy for her. None of her "wife crimes" deserved Hank dying, and her family being completely fucked up.
Even fucking Ted I felt was justified by that point, though she shoulda just had more convictions and turned Walt into the police before shit got really crazy. Tough call to be fair though.

What did she do in season one other than being worried for his cancer dying husband?

t. retard

Nagging is part of her petty personality. One of the first things the character does is whine about Walt using the "wrong" credit card.

Sometimes you just want to watch a show or a movie because it's escapism. Not because it makes you, the audience, question itself. Fair point or not?

The worst birthday handjob in television history.
Making Walts cancer all about her. Just being generally belittling, selfish and uncaring about Walt.
I agree these aren't major crimes compared to what Walt gets up to later, but early on before you get Walts Grey Matter backstory and before you see all the heinous shit he ends up doing, Skyler comes off as very unlikeable.
As the show goes on the balance of dislikeability between Skyler and Walt slowly inverses.

Imagine going to a Tom Cruise movie and coming out of the theater wondering if you're a good person or not.

I don't like her but I would still rape her.

so? if it makes a difference for them financially she's right to do so.

Maybe you didn't notice it, but your brain did

Handjob memes aside, she absolutely loved her loser husband.
She was a nagger that is for sure but it all came from a place of caring. Her cancer ridden husband inexplicably rejects the money for his treatment and keeps telling her he wants to fucking die and leave her with a retard son and daughter to raise by herself. Also he disappears constantly without an explanation.
She had every right to be concerned with Walter's erratic behavior

hello Ted

So she's just a nag? Thanks for agreeing.

sometimes i feel my soft soles after a warm shower and consider running my tongue along them, gently sucking my toes and kissing the pad of my own foot. the highest goal in life is to worship pretty women feet and i may never get that doomed to die a footcel. its the closest i can get but obviously a twisted mockery of the real thing - the aesthetic, taste, scent and pheromones all wrong - the fundamental gendered difference in feet is too vast. but sometimes i ponder

by the end

I don't know if people just miss or refuse to acknowledge the significance of Walt declining the job at grey matter which would have paid for all his expenses.
Walt would literally rather be a drug dealer than work at a company that he co-founded.
As long as that offer was on the table (it always was) he had absolutely zero justification to do what he did.

Its really popular to defend skylar, but I still think shes insufferable and I never felt any sympathy for her. In the first 3 seasons she just exists to make walt miserable and get in the way of the pacing. And in the final two seasons her beaten housewife routine is just annoying as she claims to be terrified of walt but goes out of her way to hurt his feelings constantly and the scenes drag on foreeeeveeer. Just her with this thousand yars stare and poorly immitating a terified voice.

They were all horrible people in breaking bad. Is that something you want to watch? They weren't even cool gangsters. No sense of style. You want to watch a reflection of reality? The show started out good, but then it went south into spanish telenovella territory pretty quick.

Wasn't it on Fox? There are limitations that are imposed by economics and money. It's just not very real and it becomes obnoxious. It becomes clear that some choices are being made because money is involved. It will never be a good show, because it was never authentic. It was a show in function of the money.

This is still a few episodes in iirc. But yeah I absolutely acknowledge this. I'm not certain how privy Skyler was to why Walt left grey matter to begin with, but talking to Elliot behind Walt's back was a pretty bad misplay on her part, even if I totally understand why she did it if she did know. She was understandably desperate but she was also not even listening to Walt.
She likely would have been able to talk Walt around without damaging his pride in front of Elliot.
I was just saying people dislike season 1 Skyler for simplicity sake, but its mostly about her introduction. The dynamic she and Walt have before the cancer diagnosis changes everything.

They don't, the people who bring it up ignore the context of how the offer was made, which was Skyler going behind Walt's back to tell Elliot about his diagnosis. It WAS made out of pity. Maybe he should have taken it but he wasn't obliged to and it was an inconsiderate move on her part regardless of her good intentions

Irl, she’d obviously be in the right roasting her drug dealing husband over the coals for potentially getting them all landed in jail for life.

As a fictional character, her role and interactions took away from the cat and mouse intrigue of Walt’s involvement in the criminal world, constantly grinding it into a halt with dull family drama, which was not really what the audience wanted to see. She’s almost always portrayed as being in the right, even when she becomes a part of his criminal activities, which for a fictional character is incredibly dull and frustrating.

They obviously also turned her from a character who early on was clearly supposed to have been a waitress Walt knocked up and settled for, bringing him into a life of dull mediocrity which then led him, a repressed egomaniac, to yearn for more, into a hypercompetent girlboss who constantly outwits and outsmarts him in every area of his life outside of his very specific specialty.

I don't even know why you bothered to reply with this to me. Are we having completely different conversations here? Why is this relevant? If you don't like it don't come here to discuss it. You will be happier.

What's happier got to do with it? I thought I gave you some angles to attack me from. Perhaps you could sharpen my opinion, and I could sharpen yours.

As far as she knows this is the only way to get the hundreds of thousands of dollars Walt needs to get his treatment.
If walt could have swallowed his retard pride he would have been able to pay off his treatment without mixing his family with mexican drug lords. But the thing is Walter never wanted the treatment to begin with. The cancer diagnosis was a freeing experience to him.
While Skyler was trying to take care of her family Walter was trying to escape from it. She just didn't know it yet.

I liked both her and Walt.
Like, what do you faggots expect, she does exactly what any mother would've done in a similar situation. She's annoying, sure, that's the part of the appeal.

It WAS made out of pity.

yeah, so? still better than being a fucking drug dealer.
and if he actually cared about his family as he claims he would swallow his pride and take the money instead of risking financial ruin.
obviously he thinks he's owed that money anyway.

Making Walts cancer all about her. Just being generally belittling, selfish and uncaring about Walt.

The "intervention" was really bad. She intended to have everyone guilt Walt into complying but went ballistic when Marie and Hank dared to suggest Walt's opinion actually mattered. Then there was her reaction to thinking Walt was smoking pot. As for the drama with Marie, I don't blame her being upset her klepto idiot sister almost got her arrested but she went about it like a whiny bitch and further highlighted her lack of empathy.

So yes, S1 is Skyler being unlikable in a very realistic way. I don't know how anyone could be confused.

Have you chuds repented for not liking this fictional character?

Skyler is a saint

she fucked ted

Nah Skylar's in the clear with Marie imo.
She was right to return the tiara, it was an irresponsible gift, and frankly kind of insulting.
The ball should have been in Maries court to apologize first, regardless if it was due to mental illness that she stole it.

It's been a while since I rewatched it, but if I remember correctly at that point she wanted Walter to get the fuck away from home after first finding out his freelancing endeavors. She did it to make walter go away and because he was showing how much of a piece of shit she really was. Can't blame her and even then, that's the only debatable thing she ever did in 5 seasons

Well he should have..!!!

Irrelevant. He was not going to agree under those conditions. She did it knowing his little complex. She didn't care. That's all there is to it.

Also it wasn't about making enough for the treatment. It was about leaving his family with enough money that they would be set for the future. He wanted a lot of money real quick before he kicked the bucket.

*he really was

I agree, it's mainly about her being a little bitch about it. Wish we knew the siblings' backstory becauae it seemed she was resentful of favoritism Marie got despite being the "problem child".

she should have known he's a child

this makes her wrong

okay bro

I didn't say she was wrong. I said it was inconsiderate. Get out of white knight mode.

He was not going to agree under those conditions. She did it knowing his little complex. She didn't care. That's all there is to

He was not going to agree period. Skyler knew it and tried her best to make it seem like the job offering was unrelated, but Elliot could not act right when offering it because he just found out an old pal was dying of cancer.
There was no way or form to make Walter accept that money. She tried her best and failed.

Also it wasn't about making enough for the treatment. It was about leaving his family with enough money that they would be set for the future. He wanted a lot of money real quick before he kicked the bucket.

Exactly my point. He has been wanting to check out for a long time now and the diagnosis just gave him the chance to fulfill his deathwish fantasy. Talk about inconsiderate when you are willing to leave your kids fatherless when you have the slightest chance not to.

The money was cope and he knew it. He just wanted to grow his balls before dying.

I'm in rational mode. I judge her logic, not her genitals unlike some here.
Retards bend over backwards to make excuses for Walt despite how wrong he is all the way, both morally and pragmatically.

He was not going to agree period.

Yeah and there was only an offer because Skyler telling Elliot about his illness. It was a discernable act of charity. Skyler knew he wouldn't like what she did and still did it. This isn't about her being wrong. Perhaps it was best even if a shitty thing. Skylerfags don't genuinely accept that kind of nuance, at cost of making her an even duller character.

Exactly my point.

Your points are the broader themes and messages of the show. What fans often do though is ignore the details in favor of those themes. The immorality and irrationality of refusing a legit job in favor of getting involved in the drug trade aside, I think it's a little egotistical of the fandom that imply there is no circumstance where they would make a choice out of "pride" and "ego". People can guilt and shame all they like, a person has a right to develop esteem and maintain a sense of dignity. Walt's problem is going about it in the worst way possible.

You're in reddit mode.

Retards bend over backwards to make excuses for Walt despite how wrong he is all the way, both morally and pragmatically.

Maybe 10 years ago. Popular online consensus is Walt is the devil, Skyler did nothing wrong, Jesse is a victim, etc. I don't know how you could think you're 1d takes are somehow unique.

I didn't know I was going for unique. Thanks for clarifying.
And last time I checked Skylar was the most hated character as this thread proves again through the irrational amount of hate she gets.

The actual woman you're supposed to have and blame for the entire series, Jane, somehow gets away with it.

Glad to help.

And last time I checked Skylar was the most hated character as this thread proves again through the irrational amount of hate she gets.

No, anons have said they don't like her and listed their reasons. Some have even said she's fairly reasonable despite not being likable. This can only be "irrational hatred" if you are indeed judging based on genitals. And one thread on Anon Babble means nothing when nigh-uncritical sympathy is the online consensus now. Even videos "hating" Skyler are le ironic.

She's female Jesse, a poor widdle babby. BB fanbase is full of cucks.

Jane's true crime was changing Jessie from a funny Wigger to a le depressed sadboy

Jane is pretty bad, but the woman who gets away with it the most in public perception is Lydia.
At least Jane's actions are understandable from a barely ex junkie child. Lydia is pure greed.

At the end of the day, every man wants a loyal woman more than anything. Someone who would help him "bury a body" and so on. Skylar wasn't that woman.

This is the core of the reaction to her, and no amount of white knight justification or moralizing about Walt is going to override this instinct.

People don't hate Skyler because of her being "evil" in a fictional show, it's because all of her scenes are an annoying drag. We all came to watch a kino crime empire building show and whenever it cuts to Skyler you know it's going to be the most boring, inconsequential scene ever. I like her scenes around season 3-4 where she's actually doing interesting crime stuff, but I can't give a single fuck about her early "arcs" about being mad at Marie, being mad at Walt, being mad at Marie again, etc.

ERM BUT WALTER LE KILLED PEOPLE

Yeah in a fictional show, only a freak would hate a fictional character for fictional crimes. People love Walter because he's interesting to watch do interesting things.

I agree, but if Skylar wasn't a fictional character she would rightfully get far more support.
One side of the argument treats her as fictional, while the other side puts her in reality. Generally speaking