/who/

Ncuti Gatwa is 100%, definitely gone.

The official quote he’s given to the press statement reads as follows…

“You know when you get cast, at some point you are going to have to hand back that sonic screwdriver and it is all going to come to an end, but nothing quite prepares you for it. This journey has been one that I will never forget, and a role that will be part of me forever. There are no words to describe what it feels like to be cast as the Doctor, nor are there words to explain what it feels like to be accepted into this iconic role that has existed for over 60 years and is truly loved by so many across the globe.

The fans are truly the final character and beating heart of this show and I can’t thank the Whoniverse, and the Whovians, enough for welcoming me in, and making this such a touching experience. I’ve loved every minute of it, but now is the time to hand over the keys to that beloved blue box and let someone else take control and enjoy it every bit as much as I have. I’ll truly miss it, and forever be grateful to it, and everyone that has played a part in my journey as the Doctor.”

Calling it now, because they're desperate both David Tennant and Billie Doctors will meet back up and form another relationship ending in a sad and somber BBC literal go fuck yourself moment where they fuck and remerge back into 1 person to save the universe

I notice they're refusing to explicitly call Billie the Doctor. Is RTD covering his ass or is it a fake out and she's not actually planned to be the next Doctor?

So a steam of energy for 2 arms, 2 legs, his head and his...cock?

The only scrimbo bimbo Timelord's he can bring back now are Romana, the Monk and the Valeyard.
Maybe he'll do a final twist at the end and reveal that Gatwa and Billie have been the Vaelyard all along, because he's exactly the type of dumbass to try that

I haven't watched Doctor Who since like 2008. How did the Doctor regenerate into Rose? Is Rose still around, and now the Doctor just looks like her also?

So how does Omega fit into the Timeless Child narrative
because they clearly reference both

Inb4 this is correct and the real Doctor is one of those beams. Next season is about figuring out the Doctor Who is real.

Cast new zesty black guy as Doctor Who

Write utter shit stories and try and rely on memberberries from 40 years ago

Multiple new lowest ever ratings

Disney don't renew like you thought they would

Even the remaining diehard fans are saying your finale was shite

The next season is already written and filmed so you can't change much (it's basically just the same formula as Season 1)

Zesty black actor now wants to leave because the future of the show is uncertain

Have to rewrite the ending completely and film his regeneration as open-ended

Realise that an open-ended regeneration with the show not returning until 2027 at the earliest, will just kill the show

Ring up people in your phone book until one of them is free enough to be the next Doctor Who (It's Billie Piper kek)

Superimpose Billie Piper's head over Ncuti and try and pass it off as a regeneration

Hint that maybe she isn't the real Doctor because trufuly you have no idea what's gonna happen and Disney (or another partner) might demand to pick their own Doctor

Absolute shitshow

How did the Doctor regenerate into Rose?

Regeneration can grant you a copy of a face from another person.
youtube.com/watch?v=l7qx-0lvC18

Is Rose still around,

She's still in the alternate universe, yeah.

and now the Doctor just looks like her also?

As far as we know, yes.

I never wanna hear anyone talk shit about Moffats writing again desu

We don't know much since it happens and the episode immediately ends, but I'd assume it's just the Doctor regenerating into her form, not literally becoming Rose. He's done it before after all (6th, 12th 14th)

Well that reeked of desperation.
Also, if every single RTD finale is big, bad, world-destroying bad guy does big, bad world-destroying, we know that the Doctor is going to win and it’s all going to get reversed in the next 45 minutes to an hour.

"Grandfather, find me!"

doesn't elaborate

leaves

They're really this out of ideas that they had to get Billie Piper back? I'd say I'm shocked she agreed to it, but I guess she isn't doing anything these days anyway.

Really I don't which would be funnier

them sticking with Billie as the Doctor

Disney insisting "insert random mother fucker here" be the doctor so they have time explain that no she wasn't infact the doctor

I like Billie, I think she's a good actress but coming back to Doctor Who especially in the sad state it's in is a career mistake.

I can't say I blame Billie coming back. She 100% got encouraged by Tennant and Eccleston to give it a try, even if Eccleston doesn't like Russell.

It seems like a pretty desperate attempt at nostalgia appeal from older fans but hey, for her it's still easy money even if she only gets a season or so. And she's definitely better than what they've had lately.

announcement of a new doctor used to be an event
The regeneration clip didn't even crack 200k views yet

We are posting in the final /who/ threads. This show is getting cancelled, it's over.

Anus

anons, do you think Piper could actually be a decent Doctor?
If she plays it like Rose, it's gonna be shit but she's a good actress, maybe she could pull off a quirky witch archetype, or a posh lady investigator persona.
how could it be done right?

i swear im not a faceblind retard but i went the whole last thread assuming the person spamming billie this billie that was a schizo
are you telling me thats actually billie piper? WTF happened to her? i thought it was some swedish woman whose face is the battlefield between fetal alcohol syndrome and botox injections

That might have been the single worse piece of television I have ever watched.

And I actually liked Ncuti, honestly. How the hell did this get approved to be shown on screen? How do people spend so much time and money on something without one single person going, "Hey, wait a minute... this is SHIT!"?

Never seen this guy and not gonna
But I heard he did something like remembered the time lords back into existence at the end
If that's true then that's a straight out ripoff

16 will have a black male companion

This is so offensively bad that it decanonizes the entire season

Haven't watched doctor who in years, does rose still have that lisp.

RTD was replaced by a Dalek replica.

(Coughs heavily in Anon Babble)

ADVENTURES IN THE HUMAN RACE

If the Zogs on planet Zog are having trouble with the Zog-monster... who gives a toss? But if a human colony on the planet Zog is in trouble, a last outpost of humanity fighting to survive... then I'm interested.

Every story, somehow, should come back to Earth, to humanity, its ancestors and its descendants. Rose will experience the entire history of her race. And we will celebrate it.

Every day, we're told that comets will crash into the earth, the food's gonna kill us, we'll be sterile and extinct and replaced by machines. DOCTOR WHO will say otherwise. For all the danger and darkness, this is a fundamentally optimistic series; the human race will survive. With the Doctor's help!

Saw on tumblr "Hopefully we can get the entire writing staff to regenerate next" and loled

This probably right. Very tedious

WTF happened to her

She's 42

The BBC Tests the Limits of What Viewers Will Accept as DOCTOR WHO

LONDON — Researchers at the BBC’s Experimental Television Division announced yesterday they are nearing completion of a 30-year study testing the limits of what human beings will accept as *Doctor Who*.

“People willingly watched everything our writers produced,” said Dr. Colin Bramble, senior analyst at the Institute. “In fact, they paid money for it. The results continue to surprise us.”

Over the course of the study, BBC scientists have found that decreasing narrative cohesion and increasing visual absurdity only made the show more popular. “This includes episodes like *The Inversion of the Dalek*, which was basically one episode flipped backwards on top of another episode. It looks like something no animal should watch, much less a human being.”

One recent production featured a script built around a fanfiction mash-up of *Doctor Who* and *Bake Off*, filmed on green screen, with the Doctor played by a broom handle in a scarf. “We hypothesized that the mere sight of it would repulse the audience,” said Bramble. “But it quickly became one of the most streamed specials of the year.”

BBC researchers now believe a certain percentage of human beings may have a genetic predisposition to consume increasingly bizarre and nonsensical science fiction—especially when wrapped in nostalgia and dramatic theme music.

The Institute will next test viewer tolerance with three upcoming specials:

*The Infinite TARDIS*, which takes place entirely in a single hallway lit with torches;
*Planet of the Grandmas*, where all aliens are grumpy pensioners with laser teapots; and
*Doctor Who: Strawberry Nightmare*, a musical episode featuring talking fruit and no dialogue.

In international news, the equivalent of five Americans tuned into BBC America and now believe Britain is ruled by a space wizard with a police box.

All that build up with his romantic boyfriend meant nothing. No Susan. Rani was just the master clone, her old woman self would've been a better Rani. And how is Billie Doctor going stand out compared to her human version. Please god she's written as a new character and not just Rose.

she literally has LESS texture in her face than she did when she was 20 in series 1, shit even the 50th she looked exactly the same as series 1 just with more makeup, you can seriously hardly tell its her in this new regeneration
probably because its a hastily filmed rewrite which is literally a shitty green screen fade in/out of a 'regeneration' and is overexposed to fuck as well as being a cropped face shot
surely she didnt get hagged out that fast, JUST age doesnt make someone literally unrecognisable

Makes the most sense. It had to be stunt casting because nobody else would consent to maybe being the Doctor if the show ever comes back.

I want everyone who was happy at the fat welsh faggots return to eat crow

The BBC scientists now believe that a certain percentage of viewers may have a genetic predisposition to enjoy television made from other, even more bewildering television. The Institute will next test viewer tolerance of the "Crispy Dalek Nacho Platter," the "Big New York Hot Dog Cyberman," and the "Strawberries and Cream Milkshake Dessert Sontaran."

One infamous broadcast featured the Doctor transforming into a sentient slice of toast who debated the nature of existence with a talking cactus named Reginald. “We hypothesized that this would cause mass viewer exodus,” said Marlowe. “Instead, it inspired a bestselling graphic novel and a line of scented candles.”

A 3-hour musical extravaganza featuring the Doctor dueling a choir of sentient spoons inside a black hole made of custard

A special where the Doctor is trapped inside a giant microwave that doubles as a time machine, accompanied by a chorus of existentially confused hedgehogs

In international news, five Americans were hospitalized after accidentally binge-watching a single episode of BBC Three, and several reported visions of the Doctor riding a giant space llama.

Over the course of the study, BBC scientists discovered that removing all traces of logic, plot, and even visual consistency only increased the show’s gravitational pull on the public consciousness. “We aired an episode consisting entirely of the Doctor reciting the phone book backwards while being chased by a swarm of sentient cheese wheels,” said Marlowe. “It won a Hugo Award and was adapted into an opera performed entirely by invisible ducks.”

A recent Christmas special featured the Doctor regenerating into a concept—specifically, the abstract idea of regret—while the companions were replaced by a chorus of malfunctioning smoke alarms. “We hypothesized the audience would revolt,” said Marlowe, “but instead, they started a new fandom called ‘Regretcore’ and held conventions in abandoned parking garages.”

The level of absolute nonsensical dreary technobabble exposition SHITE in this episode was unbearable. Literally nothing was happening at points other than the Doctor waffling about sciencey wincey dogshit. RTD makes Bidmead look like fucking Harold Pinter.

chased by a swarm of sentient cheese wheels

A cheese version of Rubber

Bad Wolf is the god of time Omega wishes he was. Omega is Rose.

Respect for Ncuti refusing to be part of this shit anymore.

Chris Bidmead

He wrote Logopolis and Castrovalva, right? They were great compared to this shite

kek

Did they really make Belinda become a single mother outside of her control and claim that's the good ending lol? Poppy was already a real enough person from her time, bringing back this copy of her had no narrative weight to the audience because we knew a version of her still existed.

25% of all Doctors are now David Tennant and Billie Piper.

Bad Wolf (as a concept) was retarded
Flying Space Jesus Doctor was retarded
DoctorDonna was retarded
All of End of Time was retarded
All of Empire of Death was retarded
All of Reality War was

Series 2 was the only RTD finale which didn't feature retarded shit. And I don't even like that story that much.

My original AI PROMPT really is paying off when I taunt it be saying, "Far too normalized, be even more insane in ideas". Was having it repeat itself too much, taunting it to be wilder and more insane is getting into Douglas Adams humor.

“Viewers didn’t just watch,” explained lead researcher Dr. Elspeth Marlowe, who now exists as a cloud of sentient plot holes. “They dissolved into the program and re-emerged as living spoilers. One participant now identifies as a recurring motif.”

BBC scientists now believe viewers have mutated into a new quantum lifeform, capable of binge-watching paradoxes and metabolizing pure uncertainty. Upcoming episodes include:

• A 24-hour loop of the Doctor morphing into every possible prime number, with all dialogue replaced by interpretive sneezing

• A crossover with the Shipping Forecast, set inside a Möbius strip made of marmalade, featuring a villain who is just the concept of “yesterday’s lunch”

• A six-part arc where the Doctor is replaced by the sound of a dial-up modem, and the only antagonist is a rapidly multiplying number of identical grandmothers

In the final phase, producers plan to replace the TARDIS with a recursive paradox, cast the Doctor as the sensation of déjà vu, and broadcast only the color “blurple” directly into viewers’ dreams via quantum suggestion.

“Based on our findings,” said Marlowe, now communicating via interpretive blinking, “viewers will probably still cosplay as the static and write 400,000-word fanfics about the Doctor’s left elbow.”

Dr. Marlowe admitted she once had ethical qualms about exposing humanity to such experiments, but now regards participants as “entropy-consuming narrative singularities, feeding on the collapse of causality itself.”

In international news, five Americans were last seen arguing with a lamppost about the true meaning of ‘wibbly-wobbly’ and are now presumed to be lost in the time vortex, or possibly just in Slough.

I like Bidmead, I was just referring to his tendency for technobabble

The Doctor ruined her life basically.

He honestly made this whole season barely. Also the scene with him talking to Jodi showed me his a light years better doctor than she was. The writer's can't stop making her lines techno babble, it's a biased against her.

Thoughts on canon total chud victory?

Save her from a incel marriage but then make her raise a child that isn't even her own. Like what.

I read an explanation that interpreted it as she was always a mother, we were just looking at the timeline that "glitched." Not sure if that holds up to scrutiny, I'm never rewatching that turd to check.

Mrs Flood is still out there so there's a chance she gets to play the Rani and not a slave next time.

Oh yeah lol I get now
He did like a bit of technobullshit didn't it

you can stop posting now raheem

The doctor really was black where it counted

I guess you could say this new regeneration has generated a lot of content

Pick a different face Doctor you sick, sex predator.

Unfortunately the original suggested title of Space Babies, "Rape Babies" was considered too spoilerly and renamed to something more subtle.

are now presumed to be lost in the time vortex, or possibly just in Slough.

Oh yeah that's a banger

But it's not just exposition, anon.
Get it? Eh? Eh? Aren't we clever for pointing out what we're doing?

They fuck up making this character actually compelling.

AH Ha! I will prove the Unit are all frauds by breaking into their bases, killing a random guard and shooting them all on live stream. That will prove that they as all fakes!

You know its bad when reddit is saying 'reddit but a TV show' your doing a bad job.

She gets her tits out every episode and fucks the bad guys

Daleks Vs Cybermen was retarded

She was the better Rani in my opinion, helped she had real build up to her and she stayed consistently weird and coy. The other Rani was just a more pissed off Master.

even reddit hated it

Would you agree that the fanbase of DOCTOR WHO likes trippy druglike visual experiences without the sobering up period and the inexplicable reward of feeling smarter despite not being any more intellectual after an episode?

There is evidence to suggest that a significant portion of the Doctor Who fanbase enjoys the show's surreal, psychedelic, and visually "trippy" experiences. For example, some episodes are intentionally dreamlike or bizarre, and even the Doctor’s regenerations were explicitly modeled on LSD trips to evoke a sense of disorientation and mind-bending visuals.

Episodes like “Can You Hear Me?” and “It Takes You Away” have leaned into surreal, esoteric, and hallucinatory storytelling, often leaving viewers with a feeling of having experienced something profound, even if the narrative itself is ambiguous or abstract. This approach can create the sensation of intellectual engagement or enlightenment, even when the actual content is more about emotional or sensory impact than traditional intellectual depth.

So, it’s fair to say that many fans are drawn to the “druglike” visual and narrative experiences Doctor Who offers, and often take pride or pleasure in the sense that they’ve witnessed something clever or mind-expanding—even if, on reflection, the main effect was simply a wild ride.

Bad Wolf wasn’t retarded, but the rest of what you’ve put is true.
Bad Wolf is one of the few series arcs that isn’t overdone, and doesn’t completely consume the series in a negative manner.

tumblr hates it, reddit hates it, it's a mess

Impossible Girl > Bad Wolf

Thanks chatGPT

thats...so cringe and gay im sorry

finales of 14's run and both finales of 15's run set in a UNIT HQ office block

What a fucking bland era. Literally like the Marvel Civil War film where the final battle was in a grey airport runway.

chatgpt writes like someone who posts minions on facebook

is an evil right wing chud grifter strawman

fucks Ruby six ways to Sunday

no-sells the Doctor's strongest talk-no-jutsu

gets to wish his vision of the world into existence because the Rani needed him specifically for some reason

isn't racist or xenophobic, genuinely cares when he forgets about South Africa and South America

really just wants everyone to be safe and happy with their own family

gets a happy ending where he's a nice quiet chef and nobody remembers his wish world dictatorship

Between this and them literally putting Belinda in a box and forcing motherhood on her, I'm surprised RTD hasn't been cancelled yet

Flying Space Jesus Doctor was retarded

Flying Space Jesus was visually questionable, but somewhat consistent with the premise of the episode. It was the best RTD finale.

This is actually one of the things that's actually hilarious, because as much as the show gets criticized for cramming woke content everywhere, THIS is a plot point that is damningly ass-backwards and will piss off progressive types like nothing else. Take the main female character, FORCE her to have a baby against her will, and have her entire personality now revolve about how important is is her to be that baby's mother is insanely problematic.

The fact that she spends the entirety of the climatic action portion of the episode being a brainwashed dolt who gets shoved into a fucking box and ends up contributing nothing to help save the day is just the icing on the cake. What a disaster of a script. And I bet RTD is patting himself on the back over how enlightened he is compared to other writers.

I've seen Bellinda's exes.
That baby's way too black to be from a type of man she'd date.

Fuck off Pajeet, we don’t give a shit

ChatGPT was, quite seriously, trained on reddit

I know, but I don't what black/brown character RTD hasn't put through hell. Freaking Martha being THE most poorly treated companion aside from Micky

It was the worst RTD finale. It was literally just “everyone pray for the Doctor, and they’ll get better”. The build up to it was great, and the last episode was just bad. As usually with RTD. Although he didn’t even try to make the first part good this year.

Homosexual men of RTD's generation regard women as breeding sows and no more.

Belinda would not be happy if she knew this was going to happen. I have nothing but respect for women who raise a child they have after being raped but they can never truly love them.

I'm really mad about Wish World, because having a guy try to make a perfect world according to his narrow vision only to have it disintegrate because people don't all fit there is such a great premise, and I'm not even woke.

Really puts all the virtue signalling (since there's no better term for it) this era into perspective

I don't know but the characters telling the doctor, "we are like your children" creeped me the fuck out. That's not how I feel their dynamic should be. Especially since he has romantic feelings for some of them.

Reminder that she's literally just Rose.

chatgpt writes like someone who posts minions on facebook

That was a human question to PERPLEXITY AI (low hallucination AI). Back in the 1970s DOCTOR STRANGE was packed with trippy visuals and hallucinogenic themes. Those audiences grow up and become "respectable adults", but their craving for surrealist novelty and LSD type visuals do not go away. The age of cartoon animation became end CGI then AI ART VIDEOS. Their craving for trippy experiences as a demographic did not magically vanish.

If you want a MEME DESIGNATION: "Rational in the Streets/Alister Crowley in the Sheets"

WHOVIANS desire imagination epics that expand the possibilities of existence while desiring stability and predictability in their personal lives.

They meant that, through Poppy, he seeded a new race of time lords on Earth which became humans. So everyone is Susan, his grandchildren, in a sense.

It's not an arc, it's literally two words cropping up a few times followed by an actual literal deus ex machina (bravo Russell) and a handwave "I sent them back in time as a message because guhjhhh." I rate the episode because it works on an emotional level but it's a complete arse pull and absolutely characteristic of how RTD writes his way out of "no win" scenarios.

RTD is a deviant faggot

whoa what? That's what they meant? I didn't catch that, I was still processing everything else.

Krasko bros.. We were supposed to win the chud wars.

Thanks chatGPT
I remember people being really upset at the time about what a damp fart Bad Wolf turned out to be. People thought it was going to be Fenric.

Great can't wait to find out what's inside this mystery box when the show is certainly renewed

Reminder that Bad Wolf is something RTD came up with halfway through writing Series 1 because he'd stuck the phrase in as flavour text to be graffitied on the TARDIS in one episode and liked it so much he started putting it into other episodes as well.

This was the Doctor sending 6 beams of regeneration energy to different points in time and space birthing new Time Lords for RTD's next series arc that no one will watch, care about, or remember.

FTFY

Belinda

She's been running around with the doctor as the most passive companion possible. Her first episode was the last we saw of her own personality. She's as bad as Jodi's companions.

Who is the mysterious old woman who picked up the Toymaker's tooth? Who is the Boss?

At this point it might as well just be Susan.
That or Romana.

The Doctor had a chance to wish the Time Lords back but he didn't because then Poppy wouldn't exist.

It’s a bit of an arsepull, but it’s one that’s at least vaguely trailed throughout, unlike “pray for the Doctor who now becomes Jesus”.
Also, somewhat different to almost every other RTD finale where he writes himself into an impossible corner and has to reach for a completely new deus ex machina plot device, as the time vortex itself was trailed earlier in the series.

It was pretty lazy writing. I didn't think it was creepy, but just like it was being forced in.

If you told child me that the Rani, Susan, Rose and Omega would return in a three-episode trilogy and it would suck, I wouldn't believe you. Even worse are the glimpses of greatness, like Ruby witnessing the passing back and forth of the jacket.

I cant believe the state this show is in. I have at least enjoyed the past 2 years compared to everything with 13 but my god. I actually, for the first time in my life, think ending the show for a while would be a good break. Let Big Finish try to redeem the past 8 years retroactively.

If they regenerate her off screen like the Master, I'll be super upset. She had so much strange energy and presence compared to the newer Rani. I loved seeing her being bitter about getting sidelined. Put her down with the Fugitive Doctor in outshining the actual actors in the mainline roles.

It was a good idea, the start was alright enough, the whole canon warping stuff ruins the landing.

Who cares?

Let Big Finish try to redeem the past 8 years retroactively.

Come on now, I know the show isn’t in the best state, but Big Finish would absolutely do something similar. Eight meeting the Fugitive Doctor meeting River Song meeting the Rani, and they all have an orgy, or something.

you should create content exploring the possibilities

Mrs Flood will get a Big Finish spinoff like the War Master.

I will never forgive this episode for choosing to make timelords infertile rather than acknowledge the looms.

The fact we got Mel and Ace before fucking Martha is a crime. Martha is literally still on Earth. She's not elderly and she's the template they based Belinda off of. RTD is STILL afraid to use her because of the post-Rose backlash.

Also not sure why RTD thinks we like Mel when Ace has always been the GOAT classic series companion (outside Sarah Jane).

People using Big Finish as a mark of quality post 2007 will never not be funny to me.

What was the point of Belinda's character?

The Doctor is Rose now

Millie Gibson was fired for being a shit actress.

Although I wouldn't bother listening to this, I would be glad for Anita Dobson's sake. Not sure why I just found her charming (as an actor, not character), the only part of this entire mess I enjoyed. She deserved better.

Susan owns the Time Hotel.

Its someone the Doctor knows well with the ability to time travel and knowledge of it.

Someone who is actually a friend of the Doctor, or at least likes him. This rules out The Toymaker, The Valeyard/Shalka Doctor,The Rani, Omega, Davros, and The Master.

Not a Timelord as ALL other Timelords are dead or Cyberlords, including Romana (implied she died in the Great Timewar).

Not Rogue/Jack as he is in a Hell Dimension or something (no way he is coming back as Barrowman because he made a joke about his willy 20 years ago, and thats WRONG). This does leave it a possibility he might be in his much older form as the Face of Boe, but if that were the case RTD would have probably been leaving cryptic references to faces or bows everywhere to remind people he is very clever and can do foreshadowing.

This only really leaves Susan.

Solely to exist as a replacement for Ruby while Millie's contract got turned to something smaller.
Likely also why we got the big twist arc of

Ruby was only special because we thought she was special, so the universe made her special.

Better question is what was even the point of Mel.

including Romana (implied she died in the Great Timewar).

That doesn't rule out Romana at all. And all the shit going on the the Time hotel, yoinking the Master Tooth, hiring the likes of Beep the Meep and Rogue seems far more in character for someone like EU Romana than the likes of Susan.
Susan might just also be on the payroll

I don't think Ncuti was supposed to leave.

Millie's contract got turned to something smaller

What's the scuttlebutt on why this happened?

Better question is what was even the point of Mel.

I thought it was nostalgia wank and pity that nothing cool was done with her character with a decent back story

Is that honestly worse than what we got? Like, I hate modern Big Finish and their niche fanwankery, but their 9th Doctor stuff has been fantastic (pun intended). I really don't give a fuck if they put the Monk, the Gold Asteroid bros and C'rizz in an adventure with 15. As long as they can find a character for 15 beyond "gay scream crying" and 14 beyond "autisticly running out if breath while talking about love and science," I'll be satisfied.

People say it's because she was just hard to work with and a diva on set, so her role got reduced. Others suggest it might've been her requesting a smaller work-load due to how much she had to do in the first half of the season while Gatwa was busy
We won't know until 10 years from now when all the horror stories come out of his eras production

I heard it's drugs. But maybe she just didn't get along with the crew.

I can imagine why 18yo girl would not get a long with a guy who wrote Belinda's arc.

Do you think Omega and Tecteun ever hung out?

They did the black doctor for like year, didn't they? That's like the shortest run of a doctor since they rebooted it

I'm thinking it's because she got frustrated with the character on the show, which might have turned her into a bit of diva but ultimately she requested to leave instead of that being a factor.

We know it was reshoot cause there was a photo of Doctor and Bellinda dancing in a club which never happened in this series

Same thing happened to the black girl from Invasion of the Bane who was replaced with Clyde Langer.

Is this the same space between dimensions with all the Cybermen, Daleks and Rogue in it? Do you think the Daleks gave up being race supremecists so they would have more people to play cribbage with in the void?

Was interesting seeing Millie slut it up as soon as she left the show.

Belinda having zero reaction to the Doctor DNA scanning Poppy without any consent says it all about her character

a photo of Doctor and Bellinda dancing in a club which never happened in this series

Apparently Carole Ann Ford was supposed to be in that scene.

good point

I meant more back in the day of early Gallifrey but perhaps yeah

That's some nice hair.

Tectun is patience

It's funny to think Chibnall managed to hold the show together better than RTD.
Ford was also supposed to be the one who revealed the reality was fake to the Doctor according to the same leakers. In the live version it's Rogue.
But given how painfully and rushed that whole scene felt, I wouldn't be surprised if Ford's entire role this season that was supposed to set up season 3 as Russell was banking on renewal by this year and shooting season 3 this year. All got cut and changed to give Rogue x Doctor fans their "closure." and cutting everything else out for the regeneration scene

The timelords were made infertile by Dhawan's Master during the timeless child arc. They could reproduce as normal up until then, including during the time war, and time lord children were seen during Hell Bent.

are you telling me the doctor was mpreg

LOOMS

Ford will probably die of old age before this is resolved now.

hiring the likes of Beep the Meep

That was Mrs Flood/the Rani. Did you notice the bit where she was referring to herself as "the definitive article"?

Time Lords have been impotent for the entirety of Nuwho, ever since the big bad time war enemy turned out to be the daleks who piss shit and cum when a single flakey timelord shows up.

I didn't cause some of those lines didn't sound the best in a cinema and I've not bothered to rewatch the episode since.
But I guess I could see it being that, yeah.

No matter the answer you will be dissapointed.

white wee wee

tf where this come from

Good chance yeah and it'll be up to Russell to essentially insist Susan regenerated off screen so he can finish the arc with a new actress.
This is why you don't drag out a plot point for 2 seasons while hoping you'd get a third soon, Russ.

Disney+ used it as a photo for the finale.
So they clearly got the press images for the original finale and some intern on the german side uploaded it not realizing it's from the original episode cut and not the retool

My sisters friend hooked up with Millie when she was in Australia. he found her on tinder and didn't know she was "famous" until months later

It literally doesn't matter

It really feels like no coincidence that the best modern Doctors (10, 12) were super fans of the show while the worst (13, 15) were either outright unaware or aggressively interested in changing the Doctor's character to fit their own selves. They spent all this time making the Doctor have a closet of gay outfits and acknowledging Ncuti's heritage only for Ncuti to leave after 2 seasons for bigger fish.

I don't have a daughter!

S4 episode titled The Doctor's Daughter

I know he's not technically aware of her regeneration but come on man

now that i think about it, he might be the inspiration for conrad

What's the worst retool. Power of Three, or Reality War

I don't think the predisposition of the Actors towards the show effect how absolute dog shit the writing they were landed with sas

15 was the guy who requested to RTD that the Rani should come back. He's not Jodie tier in that sense.

I don't want to hear Stephen Moffat is sexist ever again after this

Ncuti is a Doctor Who fan, Jodie wasn't.

I've stopped watching Who years ago, but I still hear things here and there, wasn't the black dude JUST became the doctor like a year or so ago? Why is he regenerating so quick? shit ratings?

Should have just made looms a thing. Also I figured that timelords and gallifreyans are different enough, that the "ascension" to timelord which grants regenerative abilities and such would make them infertile, making them need the Gallifreyans who lived in barns on the outskirts of the citadel.
Although I was not sure at all of what "genetic explosion" was the Rani referring to. Master just straight up burned the place and made the bodies he found cybermen. I feel like I've missed something major, or they just failed to explain it.

the timeline where poppy doesn't exist

RTD is based for this, he pandered to mind control fetishists by making Belinda be mind broken into a loving mother.

insist Susan regenerated off screen so he can finish the arc with a new actress.

Susan should've regenerated decades ago. She's a Time Lord and the Doctor's granddaughter. Nig Finish unwilling to do just that has been weird as hell.

Why is he regenerating so quick?

Russell sold Doctor Who a contract with Disney, where Disney helps gets to decide the budget they get.
The contract was season, 1, 2 and the Unit Spinoff.,
Russell and the crew expected Disney to renew their contract for season 3 last year, so they could start filming this year.
Disney still hasn't renewed the contract meaning Doctor who outside the Unit spinoff is likely on hiatus till 2027 at least.
Gatwa decided in February, when filming of a season 3 wasn't happening as originally expected, to depart from the show and focus on his career elsewhere which is why the ending got reshot in Feburary.

best modern Doctors

10

So WAIT wait, Belinda seeing that little girl in Nigeria was actually hinting to her being a mom or something? She didn't react to her.

Ever wonder if watching this show helped turn you gay?

How is the guy who pumps out mary sue after mary sue a sexist? Dude's a simp.

poppy isn't actually her daughter.

You cannot tell me that Tennant and Capaldi did not have significant sway in how those doctors were portrayed. The writers and actors work together on finding a voice for the character that works best. Even in Capaldi's worst episodes (first season for sure), he made the show watchable. Ncuti misunderstood the Doctor's quirky charisma and went for the wrong energy level; Jodie unfortunately had the screen presence of wet cardboard (even in the cameo) .

So Crab Omega was legit but was changed for a skeleton?

Time whimy bleed through

she is now and always was

That Unleashed episode has been very carefully edited. Wouldn't trust the sequence of events presented there at all.

Could all of this been avoided if Russell just took into account that Disney likely wasn't going to renew and just commissioned a third lower budget season with the BBC instead?

No anon I am saying they had little to no control on the quality of the writing in the series which ultimately lies with the showrunner victorious. The upper echelons of Nu need to get axed or the quality will continue to suffer

but how were the ratings?

Okay contrarian, keep pretending every Doctor since 10 hasn't copied his archetype. You don't have to like 4 and 10, but there's no denying they left significant marks on the show.

It was at the end of the Interstellar Song Contest episode. Its in a mid credits scene, so you might have switched off before then to avoid the next episode trailer.

Lower than previous seasons on British TV. Disney claims it was "doing fine"
But apparently not fine enough to renew the contract when Russell wanted

Belinda just wanted to get back in time for her shift starting and now she's suddenly a single mother. Chilling.

Want to be a hard working NHS nurse who lived in a london flat with 3 other people

Robots kidnap you to space

Fast forward and time shifts

You're now a single mother nurse

Robots apparently still broke into your house and kidnapped you.

Old Nu-Doctor who, holds the Master in his arms, cries, begs for them to not die. "I'll be the last!"

This doctor, see's Rani get grabbed and gobbled and smiles and shrugs it off lol

Mrs Flood is still alive

Doctor Who is always a hit with getting younger people to watch the BBC, but that's about it in terms of positives.

The CG was shit but would have been a big job to change. Maybe the initial pre-viz was a crab and then it got changed early on

I know but his non-reaction was so weird

dugga doo is still stuck in my head. now i know how the master felt

Nah. Leakers described it like a giant claw. Which was technically true. The first thing you see of Omega was a giant claw as he crawls out.
I'm guessing the full Omega CGI wasn't finished (likely cause Eurovision episode had all the budget) and the leaker only saw the hand.

With how Omega was presented in the episode I don't think it could be legit. He immediately gets forced back into hell. The crab design feels like it's one that would be meant to be out and about more.

Based Rose

Why wasn't Heather the companion and Bill the love interest that dies in the episode?

I never thought this could be worse than the Timeless child and that was pretty bad. The Timeless child just being the Master's powerpoint presentation was a mercy compared to this mess.

She’s got a decent back story if you know what I mean

See a few YouTube review recommendations

All of them are negative and saying the show should be done

I think Russel has really fucked it this time (and that's a good thing)

In this finale did 15 feel like the Doctor feel like the "emotionally mature and vulnerable" Doctor they kept trying to sell him as. But I think Ncuti did a much better job when they wrote him as kind of mean like in Boom, Church on Ruby Road, Empire of Death, and Joy to the World. He can't do threatening but he can do condescending and annoyed pretty well.

Eh, this isn't the worst finale I've seen. Barring Billie, if it ended in a similar vein to The Big Bang I would still put a few non-Chib finales below it.

AI. RTD did warn that they would be using generative AI to create or enhance some "publicity photos" last year.

radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-generative-ai-bbc-newsupdate/

Turns out they were using it to create red herrings like this.

The tabloids are the only opinion he cares about and they love Rose. This is the same reason Tennant wasn't allowed to wear 13's clothes.

there's no denying they left significant marks on the show.

Didn't say that, I just don't love 10. I even prefer 14 to 10.

The tabloids apparently love the Rose memberberries

Yet none of them leaked it ahead of time...

What is going on here?

I don't believe you anon because whenever I stop listening to Dugga Doo I instantly forget it.

The aging queers below the line at the Guardian all loved it. They're the audience now

youtube.com/watch?v=KC5up-0tcNg

I preferred the Lawrence Miles version of The Enemy (just leave it a mystery)

He still tried to get her killed.

This doctor, see's Rani get grabbed and gobbled and smiles and shrugs it off lol

I was annoyed that he didn't seriously consider her offer of recreating a better Gallifray. But I guess "the timelords were tyrants," I didn't watch Jodie's era.

pic unrelated?

He still calls himself the last of the time lords later too.

To be fair RTD played a blinder by casting her.

As the wife and mother of the children of one of Britain's leading Far Right politicians, nobody can ever call it Doctor Woke again. Even Nigel Farage will have to throw his support behind the show to support his friend Fox's family, so his kids won't go hungry.

They divorced.

Does RTD have the guts to make the Billie Doctor get naked?

I don't even know what this means.

Its not bad for someone that’s 60

What was the original plan for this one? It had that P.S scene right?

They made a big deal over the Doctor being willing to sacrifice himself for one life but he didn't do it for Adric.

You can't save someone who has actually died or else the Reapers will liquidate everyone.

would billydoctor have a bush when she first regenerated? will she shave/wax? did Jodie?

Mrs Flood/The Rani is a Timelady. The may be sterile but they do have a sex and gender. This is why Rose-with-a-D refers to him as a "male presenting timelord" rather than just a Timelord.

The last Doctor Who story is Logopolis

doctor has lip filler and bucal fat removed fresh from regeneration

What's with the entire Reboot and it's hateboner for Gallifrey. It starts of dead, but then gets retconned to just being in a pocket universe, then you see a bit of it in Hell Bent, then The Master single handedly gets 25 kills and calls in a tactical nuke ending the Timelords AGAIN, how he managed to do that when they couldn't get wiped out in the Time War where both Daleks and Timelords where creating WMDs and sentient abominations is a mystery. Then The Rani comes back for the lulz and Susan is seen, only for The Rani 2 to get vored, The Rani 1 to GTFO, Susan gets memory holed, and Omega turned into a giant skeleton baby before getting Deus Ex Machina'd out of existence.

just leave it a mystery

Intervention Earth revealed the Enemy to have been Omega all along.

All those 2007 era fanfics about the Doctor keeping the Master as his chained breeding slave have been made impossible.

Imagine going back even 10 years ago and explaining what becomes of Doctor Who. The Doctor becomes a woman? 'Oh, I'm not really sure that is a good idea, but maybe they will do something with it.' Explaining Timeless Child. 'What?' Tennant is the Doctor again and there is bigeneration. 'WHAT?' In a story that features the Rani and (sort of, not really) Omega, Billie Piper becomes the Doctor. 'Now I just now you are taking the piss.

Still has his kids and in order to marry someone with very far right views it would be really weird if she didn't share those views at least to some extent.

I would be down for a bimbo Doctor, but not Billie.

you're thinking is not incorrect but some women literally will just follow along with whatever their chosen man says and have no allegiance to either way of thinking

The last Doctor Who story is The Caves of Androzani, with everything after being a dying dream of the 'Fifth' Doctor since Morbius Doctors were actually undisputable canon all along.

Dalek tier answer by Briggs finish there. Using Omega as a weapon against the the enemy would be far better.

It does occur to me that 5 could've used the Tardis to save him, it would've only been a few minutes and it wouldn't created a paradox by contradicting anything.
btw I really knows it's because the classic doctors were less risky but you could see it that way.

She might have even been the one who radicalized Fox.

The Doctor becomes a woman?

Explaining Timeless Child.

Tennant is the Doctor again and there is bigeneration.

All would be surprising but not inherently awful in theory, depending on the execution. But Billie Piper as The Doctor is just nonsense.

*SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF*

Maybe I'll actually go back and watch Classic Who now. Probably not though.

Ncuti > Tennant > Billie > Jodie

This.

It would be a fixed moment in Time, like tbe death of Rose's dad in the episode "Father's Day" in volume 2 series 1 .

It's a time travel show Russel. You can bring back any character through time travel. You don't have to make them the Doctor

16th Doctor/Iris Wildthyme old hag adventures when

Any single doctor post that episode would be able to materialise around Adric and save him because they didn't get to witness his actual death

how the fuck am I (an australian) supposed to watch pre Capaldi episodes? they aren't available to stream anywhere online for us.

I have most of Tennant 1.0 and some classic serials on DVD but don't have a DVD player or console.

You can't save someone who has actually died or else the Reapers will liquidate everyone.

HAHAAAHA!
Recent example, Rory was reincarnated as an Auton (plastic pal who's fun to kill with).

Want another choice?
Take a TRANSMAT (BBC version of teleporter). Scan the person you want to save before they die. Wait for original to die. Recreate person as much as you desire.

Dalek Duplication Machine: The Daleks, a prominent enemy of the Doctor, developed a duplication machine after the Dalek-Movellan War. This device could scan a subject's memories and create a mind copy for a Dalek duplicate. They attempted to use it to create a duplicate of the Fifth Doctor to infiltrate and assassinate the Time Lords on Gallifrey.

Sontaran Cloning Technology: The Sontarans, a clone race bred for warfare, possess cloning technology that allows them to reproduce in vast numbers. In "The Sontaran Stratagem," they created a clone of Martha Jones to gather information from within UNIT. This clone was able to access Martha's memories, but only the Doctor realized she was not the real Martha. The Sontarans typically favor open warfare over subterfuge, making this instance somewhat unusual for them.

The Flesh/Gangers: In the story arc beginning with "The Rebel Flesh," a substance called "The Flesh" was used to create duplicates or "Gangers" of people for dangerous tasks. The Eleventh Doctor created a Ganger of himself, and it was shown that Gangers could develop their own consciousness and memories.

The last Doctor Who story is Logopolis

Alternatively, Baker's End depicts a 4th Doctor who's become old and retired. It's a spiritual successor to the Nest Cottage Chronicles which takes place between Seasons 15 and 16. Baker's End though can be placed after Shada no issues, which is helped by the the scenes of an older 4 in its VHS release. This series also has 4 regenerate into Colin Baker, skipping 5 completely.

reincarnated after the death is the same as breaking continuity to prevent the death

ok if you're retarded just dont post from now on ok thanks

I did a watch through of classic who once and I wouldn't do it again, I'm not saying it was a slog but there was a lot of it.
I worked out I could watch one part a day and it would take about 2 years, but that's probably the best way to do it desu.

you can take it as 5 being a little 'good two shoes' desu, I also think 4 and 2 would've done it as well, 1 and 2 might've been to strict to risk it though.

Thats so funny actually

in all of those cases the original is still dead. but then again 11 tricked the reapers by changing the past so that what everyone saw was a tesselecta getting shot dead instead of his real body and that's enough for time to heal apparently.

Making 4 the actual 13th Doctor works better since it explains what the fuck The Watcher is, a way for the Doctor to break the limit.

you can take it as 5 being a little 'good two shoes' desu, I also think 4 and 2 would've done it as well

Adric was unlucky to be stuck with 5.

ok if you're retarded just dont post from now on ok thanks

The original dies, a copy continues. No paradox.

What's the matter, it gets you out of a writing hole Russell? The whole show is about getting out of writing holes. At least I understand it enough to continue a series as long as I please.

You wouldn't see 5 or 1 doing Heaven Sent for anyone.

if you put the doctor on the bottom of the mariana trench would he just keep regenerating forever?

Not canon to the EDA-verse

It is weird that I think I wouldn't be as mad if he turned into Martha Jones instead? Would still be lame but I would feel that it would have real intention then just pure nostalgia wank

Everyone loves 10 and Rose! Remember that? It's a classic bit of nostalgic British tv like who shot Phil Mitchell.

The idea seems, or seemed, to be that if you kill a Time Lord during regeneration you permanently kill them. Given bigeneration and the Timeless Child who fucking knows what is up with regeneration in general and specifically regarding the Doctor.

The original dies, a copy continues. No paradox.

right thats what i just said in response to you using rory dying and then becoming an auton as evidence that reapers dont always do their job, despite again that being prefectly fine continuity wise

Yeah that's a fair point, plus she's more attractive.

What real intention? It, even if lesser nostalgia bait, is still going

LOOK! IT IS THIS ACTRESS WHO PLAYED A CHARACTER CLOSE TO 20 YEARS BACK!

I liked how the War in Heaven never exactly took place in open warfare because the Time Lords and The Enemy were perpetually outmaneuvering each other by changing the timeline
Until the Doctor erased them all and became the last of the time lords, stuck in earth with amnesia because his memory was full to the brim with storing all the time lords so he could remember them all back at the end of the EDAs when he worked out what was going on

You wouldn't see 5 or 1 doing Heaven Sent for anyone.

1 I get because he's the youngest and hasn't had his hero arc yet, but what the fuck is with 5? This is a post-4 Doctor and he sucks ass. What happened?

RTD doesn't care about time travel. He does planets and alternate universes. Time travel is Moffat's domain.

I would think it would be like a apology to the fans that liked her. Her episodes where a endurance test for "lets see the companion in the most traumatizing scenarios"

I have not read anything Faction Paradox directly, only general information about it. Is The Enemy supposed to be some metaphysical conception of an adversary?

Beep specifically mentions "the Boss" in such a wording as Anita used, though.

just stop thinking entirely
you're retarded

an apology to martha fans would be martha appearing in any of the like 30 unit episodes there has been since her dissapearance, not shitting all over her and the doctors legacy in one move

Any companion except Bill would have been better than Rose honestly.

Dead Romance happens in-between Gallifrey III and IV btw.

But it will not be Martha the character. Even if it is the same actress, even if it written as Martha. It is the Doctor, whatever that even means now, wearing the face of some past companion and the meta would still be 'look it's Martha, you remember Martha - please watch are show'.

the idea of the doctor becoming his crush is just so creepy

It just doesn't mean anything anymore. They've infinitely squeezed the bank account of viewer good will and it's overdrafted at this point.

I'm making the point that if this stupid plot twist HAS to happen I just don't Billie was a good choice.

I did a watch through of classic who once and I wouldn't do it again, I'm not saying it was a slog but there was a lot of it.

I have watched some of it. The format was very hard to adjust to. Because it was a weekly serial each part would end in some sort of cliffhanger, which gets stale very quickly. And it also just looked horrible. I don't mean the sets or SFX, but the directing. It's jarring looking at something like Star Trek, Batman, or The Twilight Zone and then going to Classic Who where they just did not care what it looked like at all.

I did watch Six's entire run and was able to enjoy it but for now I'm just rewatching TOS.

How did he know?

It is weird that I think I wouldn't be as mad if he turned into Martha Jones instead?

It's not weird because Martha isn't as beloved as Rose, which is also why you would assume there was intention behind it, it's a more specific choice.

well yeah id agree except they already did this with tennant so its not even 'stupid plot twist' tier its just what the show is now

I did a watch through of classic who once and I wouldn't do it again, I'm not saying it was a slog but there was a lot of it.

I worked out I could watch one part a day and it would take about 2 years, but that's probably the best way to do it desu.

My approach to watching Classic since starting it is to just dart around with what are considered the best serials or just sound interesting to me. I do not think starting from An Unearthly Child and working your way all through in order to Survival is the best way to approach.

RTD did establish that drowning stops the regeneration, I suppose if he fell into a furnace but he could just choose not to regenerate.
The timeless child is awful but something I'll admit is that it was never confirmed Hartnell was the first incarnation until much later, (I want to say until TotD but I'm not sure).
The way you said might be a better way to have handle this, The Doctor would have 9 previous incarnations (8 being Morbius Doctors), not super-secret just incarnations just ones we never got to see on screen. It would also give the impression that we picked up the story halfway through when the series started, you could theorize that Hartnell was the an incarnation that returned to Gallifrey to settle down and start a family. You could retcon the Watcher as giving the Doctor unlimited regens, just to avoid the limit issue.

Bill, Clara and Rose are the only ones who could become the Doctor, because they all either entered the Doctor's timeline or influenced the TARDIS, like the Bad Wolf's time vortex or the sentient oil.

An apology to Martha fans would be letting us get to see her with the black Doctor but they fumbled that spectacularly.

And Lungbarrow in-between Gallifrey I and II. The Gallifrey series happens during 8's time, but we see 7 in Lungbarrow since the former was stuck in the Divergent Universe at the time. Current Doctor's indisposed? The previous one takes his place. Same thing happened in The Apocalypse Element.

As I remember, the Time Lords find that all their predictions of the future converge on the existence of a great war fought across time against an unknown Enemy. This is to be the War in Heaven.
They aren't able to predict what form the Enemy will take, only that it is insidious and powerful. They start changing the timeline to try to alter the predictions, only to find that the Enemy appears to be doing the same.
I don't think we ever see who the Enemy is, only glimpses of their agents, and the consequences of the Time Lord's more and more desperate attempts to avoid the War in Heaven. So the first half of the EDAs have all this as a background, like a cold war against an Enemy you can't see or understand.
Then in The Ancestor Cell, I vaguely recall that it all comes to a head and for an instant the skies above Gallifrey are filled with the ships of the Enemy, until the Doctor does the Thing that he Does, and there are no more Time Lords and no more Enemy, just the Doctor in England in 1889 with memory loss and a note in his pocket from one of his companions saying "Meet me in St. Louis, February 8, 2001"

Bill is GOATED.

If the show was going to go insane why could it not go schizo insane instead of retarded insane?

Dandruff on his coat

bummer, I would have liked him to fight Cybermen or Darleks at some point

The next Doctor played by William Russell reading off prompt cards.

You could just apply the logic of Peter Capaldi where the regeneration chose a face he knew, allowing any companion to be recast as the doctor.

He's dead.

Anon...

Lawrence Miles should have directed the series and RTD should have directed people to their seats in the theatre

Can't be, he was alive in the 50th anniversary doco thing just the other day

William Russell's son as the next Doctor. Born when Russell was 64

In one of the books a time lord tactical operator is trapped in the void of space and regenerates into more and more bizarre forms as his body tries to survive. I think he doesn't make it in the end.

creepy

if he gets shot with more than one bullet he's dead forever

you could theorize that Hartnell was the an incarnation that returned to Gallifrey to settle down and start a family

This book depicts an early Doctor living on Gallifrey as a teacher. He also looks like Paul McGann but isn’t 8, and has traveled in the past. So it goes Paul McGann, 8 Morbius Doctors, and then 1-4 as the 13 Doctors.

You can sort of see it

This nigga sexgenerated.

He also looks like Paul McGann but isn’t 8

That's what happened to 7

I want to fuck the Doctor.

okay but who is the valeyard?

right thats what i just said in response to you using rory dying and then becoming an auton as evidence that reapers dont always do their job, despite again that being prefectly fine continuity wise

See yourself as a series of instant moments.
Consider it akin to a Plank-interval.
Or in simpler terms, frames of a movie.

What happens if I steal a frame of your existence?
Could you, would you, notice?

A person or world exists as a frame of spacetime as a Plank-instant. The bigger the volume, the more energy and information content to store. You can store lower quality 3D holo-moments, at higher costs.

So if you introduce a Holo-Moment of matter, you should have a configuration for it as a stable continuity to collapse easily into and continue. You can basically steal an infinite amount of Holo-Moment slices so long as you don't steal immediately contiguous Holo-Moments as chemical function continuity breaks can occur.

It's no more a crime than making a photocopy or an ink print from a stamp or assembling a jigsaw puzzle into the intended final shape.

But it does tend to dispel drama and urgency.

another tennant. only the other 3 tennants and 3 billies can stop him.

This just makes me like Chibnall more.

They've come up with ideas like the Other or tTC when just adding previous incarnations would be better solution.
If a fan wanted to believe there was more to them, then they could or if they just wanted to think they were normal incarnations (nothing special) they could.
It adds mystery but it leaves it ambiguous.

I liked Lungbarrow but the Other was a pretty weak concept

This journey has been one that I will never forget, and a role that will be part of me forever

my mans going to be forgotten before the end of the year.
lmfao I feel bad for him having to be polite about this disaster production

there are faster ways of saying 'yes im retarded sorry'

S2 starts to make a lot more sense when you consider ruby was supposed to be the main companion.
Its a shame they are so bad at rewrites.

Isn't it spelt "planck"?

Remember when this show had monsters, aliens and planets, instead of gods and UNIT

I'll need to rewatch that stuff to check but I'm pretty sure the "genetic explosion" is a quick mention retcon to try and explain just HOW the Master did that

Doctor Who lore is so retarded. Is this just the natural end for a long-running franchise?

The Doctor always has to be special. I'm sick of it. He's extraordinary because he's a time lord in a universe where the other time lords are either not interfering or are gone. He doesn't need anything more.

The other killing himself by throwing himself into the looms to get reincarnated as the Doctor works for me

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up like another Eccleston in a few years

I liked Lungbarrow but the Other was a pretty weak concept

Then you might like this. It takes the backstory bits but removes the loom and Other stuff. Auld Mortality depicts a 1st Doctor who hasn't left Gallifrey and an older Susan who becomes Lady President. Its sequel, A Storm of Angels, has Old Susan replace herself with a young one to travel with her grandfather, leading into An Unearthly Child.

Most long running franchises have harder reboots than Doctor Who gets.

RTD wanted his ass and he said no?

I agree but like I said you could just say his previous incarnations were just normal, maybe they worked as a librarian or accountant.
Then when he reached the Hartnell version is when he just got really bored and wanted to run away.

btw I'm only thinking about this as an alternative to all the lore stuff they added later.

The sad thing is stunt casting always worked. People came back for Tennant and they will again for Piper.

Yes. It’s genuinely funny that people are speculating about S3 at this point. There is no S3. Remember what the leaker said - it’s RTD bringing his era (and NuWho) full circle. No one is renewing this after that train wreck of a finale.

I'll give it a listen

God every detail of the looms is awesome and it make me so angry that they won't just offhandedly refer to them.

We keep getting told that Timelords are awful degenerates but nuwho has done nothing to actually show that outside of a few villains. They should've at least depicted some of the weirder things from the culture before they died.

How could you forget Russel T Davis?

Same. I love the that time lords are a decadent people and have to be woven on looms since they can no longer reproduce. It's so interesting. I got into this stuff in the wilderness era so maybe that makes me biased.

That's not the previous thread dipshit, that's just some boardie's thread

How was the cinema experience, what were people's reaction to billie piper

I don't think it's the end.

I'm not so sure this time. The next episode is two years away minimum. Most normies aren't gonna give a shit by then. Plus, even they can see the desperation in doing the "regenerate into an old character" again

Yeah you tell him 4 hours later now that his threads about to die.

"the definitive article"?

It pisses me off something fierce that this first doctor phrase has been misquoted ever since.
He said

I'm not A doctor, I'm THE Doctor. The definite article, you might say

"Definite article" is the linguistic name for the word "The"
As opposed to the word "a" which is the "indefinite article"
That's the joke, that's why he said it.

How as the cinema experience.

The few girls in the audience did the typical cheering and screaming for bits. They got the loudest when Jodie came back and said she loved Yaz.
The guys in the audience were far more willing to laugh at stuff and had no issues laughing at the Billie Reveal.
Although on the way out, I heard people over-talking about how Big Finish will fix things/give 15 more stories in the future, which seems to now be the expectation among fans

If you’re paying money to go to the cinema and watch this, you’ll lap up any old RTD slop.

sixgenerate into the new thread

5 whole minuites of standing in unit shit just talking with the evil bitch

was DW always like this, its so boring. Also that little black is ugly.

*Baby Sneed

The number of redditors and normies in the show's Instagram comments hyping themselves up after her reveal and TYPING IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE THIS IS SO EXCITING is just fucking saddening.
Are there really people out there watching who don't see how desperately depressing this is? Or worse, who genuinely liked that episode??

I don’t think any of this was made clear.
I took the line about the death particle meaning instead of it causing instant death to Time Lords, it made them infertile. But how would the Rani or the Doctor know that’s what happened? Have they tried breeding since Timeless Child?

o hai
guess you all wondered what happened to this plot
well it looks like the ending to the last episode was binned when Ncuti quit and they shot a new ending.
leaving pic related out to dry and producing the mess of a final episode that we got to see.
remember; jodie says guns bad, but bombs are brilliant, and Ncuti says death rays are pretty cool even though they are not visually representative of the energy power they supposedly have.
god i hate this show, the last genuinely good episode (not a good first part and a shit second part, a good standalone episode) was oxygen in 20 fricken 17

The Doctor's been able to copy another living person's face for a regeneration since 5th and 6th Doctor (the 6th Doctor's face is based off of a snarky guard that the 5th Doctor met during his run). 11 did this too, taking the face of a guy he met during a trip to Pompeii for his 12th regenderation.

Rose is still in an alternate timeline with her mom and that timeline's version of her dad. Mickey was with her for a bit but returned to the main Earth.

I think the real issue with Mel is the elephant in the room that is us never seeing how she hooked up with the Doctor. They hinted something BAD happened to her family when he brought her back in the anniversary specials. And given that early rumors was that the Black Guardian was going to be rebranded "The Guardian of Chaos" and be the big bad of season two, I kept wondering if RTD was going to retcon Mel being the Key to Time given mortal form.

we got Mel and Ace

Did this actually happen? Ace was in nuwho? I haven't seen anything since the end of Capaldi