I'm going to be honest, I think this might be Nolan's first big miss. He already did this movie, in spirit, with Interstellar and the material is simply too complex and dense for a feature film. It doesn't help that his stunt casting, which was always evident, is worse than ever here. Him going all in on shooting a film with IMAX cameras only is too gimmicky. It feels like he's too high on his own supply after sweeping the Oscars last year.
The Odyssey
I think this might be Nolan's first big miss
Tenent or tenet idk what its called
Nah. It's going to be kino. Screenshot this.
He already had his first big miss with Tenet. That movie sucked dick.
nolan getting mainstream has inverse correlation with the quality of his films.
the prestige was probably his last great one
Did you see TDKR
Elliott Page in the cast
Kino inbound
Released in COVID so it will always have a huge asterisk around it. He doesn't have the same excuse now. In fact, Oppenheimer was him bending over to Hollywood given that movie's overt politics and that he finally won the Best Director Oscar for it. He's now attempting to film the unfilmable and also propagate European mythology. A big NO NO in the eyes of you-know-who in Hollywood.
Even Nolan at his worst is better than the vast majority of currently active filmmakers.
It was filmed in 2019, Covid had zero impact on the quality of the film
covid didn't make the script bad, jesus christ copium
Not the original poster, but yes. I love that movie. Flaws and all.
I think this might be Nolan's first big miss
Doesn't matter, we're talking financially.
Did they have mutts back then?
bro you're not a studio executive, who gives a shit how it does financially, what the fuck kind of autism do you have
Matt Damon as Odysseus instead of dubsman
Does he and Nolan have bad blood?
Washington and Debecki were miscast. That entire plot with them might have worked if they had cast actors with charisma and chemistry, but they way it played out in the movie was awful.
I am saying "bro" that a "miss" would be if the film failed at the box office, which none of Nolan's films have done so except Tenet because of the pandemic.
A "miss" for us, the audience, would be if the movie were bad.
Bale is a kinosseur.
The Prestige was actually good so he trusted Nolan enough to sign on to Batman. 3 films later and the trust was completely gone.
Pretty sure he did Love and Thunder purely as payday for shits
Eh, I thought it was fine. Nolan repeating himself a bit too much but if you dig his stuff, I don't see why you wouldn't like it. Main guy was badly cast for sure. Should've been Pattinson and Taylor-Johnson as the protagonists.
Who gives a fuck if Hollywood Jews make money? Dont you have a twitter screencap thread to ragebait in or something goofy ass nigga
He already missed with TDKR and Tenet.
T E N E T
He can't cast a movie anymore to save his life
I laughed
this thread made me realize Tenet was a thing
that one got memory holed real quick
I don’t really like any of nolans films. Interstellar was alright I guess
Topher Grace was in Interstellar, Eric Roberts was in The Dark Knight, Ellen Page was in Inception. He always had a funny sense with casting. But now, it's legitimately horrible. Too little good actors to balance out the bad ones. Namely Ellen Page with her tits cut off.
Nolan is probably pissed Bale keeps working with David O Russell. Russell put Nolan in a headlock at a party and told him to release Jude Law from his Howard Hughes movie to do I Heart Huckabees.
Definitely this. What do you think DOR has on Bale to make him keep working with him?
CG markers on his body
hoo boy.
for a moment I thought you were going to defend the casting here. Tom Holland is the second-worst Telemachus I can possibly think of (Chalamet being the worst).
Would make 2 Bil easily if they reunited for this flick
Hollywood is spoiled for choice for young early 20's British actors who can act their asses off
casts Tom Holland
Nolan is either completely illiterate with what constitutes good acting or lets other people cast his movies for him which would disqualify him from being an auteur.
Nolan's first big miss
uhhh
You're all so boldly talking shit right now, but when Nolankino is unleashed upon the world, will you be men enough to bow down and apologize?
Anyone else get the impression Nolan doesn't care at all about doing takes? He's more preoccupied with the set pieces than he is the individual scenes of characters and dialogue. He averted this in Interstellar where McConaughey punched up the dialogue with his wit and charisma but the others were very stiff.
I'm a Nolan fanatic and I even defend Oppenheimer from politically-charged critique but I really do feel he's bit off more than he can chew here and that the Oscar sweep got to his head. You can't do the poem right with just one 3 hour movie. The structuring would be abysmal UNLESS he completely goes the fan-fiction route.
Oppenheimer is pretty much universally acclaimed my dude.
Nolan had to cast Damon, he's typecast as "lost in space/at sea" guy now.
Clearly not if I've gotten into debates over it. It was Nolan's peak both commercially and awards-wise and what goes up must eventually come down. I feel like he picked the perfect project for that, in a sad way.
my dude
I don't like that phrase. No need to have added it.
His only Oscar win
It's fine, I said it ironically.
Looks like Damon got surgery to remove sagging tits.
and also propagate European mythology. A big NO NO in the eyes of you-know-who in Hollywood.
Plenty of various Greek myths and other classic mythology stories have been adapted very successfully (both in terms of word of mouth, quality, and financial gains).
Even just a decade or so ago, Clash Of The Titans was a thing that did well.
The whole cast is so shit
The cast isn't that bad but it's like a parody of a Nolan movie cast.
I can forgive everything BUT Elliot Page.
Lmao
Everyone in the cast is overexposed. Damon, Holland, Zendaya. They're in everything. He should have gotten Bana
This has literally been confirmed by multiple actors. Nolan refuses to do reshoots and often does minimal takes.
Companies love him because this means his films always come out under budget and on time.
it's called 'tenet' but everyone calls it 'tenant' because of some kind of brain virus that makes people add the letter 'n' in certain words for no reason. 'pundint', for example.
and theyre still going to buff the hell out of him in post
Nolan sucks ass. Fell asleep watching The Prestige, Oppenheimer, Inception, and Interstellar. For a movie centered on dreams, Inception had the most boring set pieces. Memento is gimmicky garbage. Didn’t watch Tenet because of bad word of mouth. Enjoyed the Dark Knight at release. Disappointed and confused by Dark Knight Rises. Dunkirk looks good. Might watch one day. This Odyssey shit looks horribly cast and I don’t think Nolan can handle the scope of the story.
If Nestor's palace isn't filmed on location in Messenia I'm not watching
That would explain why they didn't reshoot the infamous plane scene. but thank god they didn't.
the boat....sank?
I feel like this doesn't apply any longer. All recent interviews only show actors highlighting Nolan's strict attention to detail and meticulousness to get everything right. Maybe in the DKR days he only did 1 or 2 takes, but not any longer.
I feel like he had a lot of care in the first two Batman movies but Heath's death nullified all his plans for the third movie and he just didn't care and wanted to get it over the line hence the plane scene and about a hundred other things about it.
The plane scene
Nolan recognizes a kino take when he sees it
There was literally an extra smiling like a retard in the first teaser of Dunkirk that they released. This was cut from the final film after everyone made fun of him.
Tenet is literally the textbook example of a writer not understanding their own story or the rules applied.
Oppenheimer is a wikipedia article filmed and cut up to give the pretence of having a story.
He doesn't care about details. Actors are just retards.
He called TDKR the biggest thing he's ever done, "the biggest anyone's done since the silent era", and has recently cited the plane scene as his favourite scene of his career.
This cope that he's embarrassed by this shit is delusional denial by his coping fanboys.
You got any sources on that?
ah you clever shit
BRAVO NOLAN
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are there any good films made in the last 25 years that aren't by Christopher Nolan? if so, what are they?
To be fair it's probably more due to the two planes stunt stuff than the dialogue.
Yeah probably
He stole the stunt wholesale from the 1989 Bond movie License to Kill. He just used Batman as a roundabout way to make Bond movies.
the lighthouse
the northman
once upon a time in hollywood
joker
fury road
br2049
hereditary
death of stalin
wait. did you say 25 years?
Dredd
Collateral
maybe he's aware of how his insane fans are and this was just a funny way to wink at them
Scorpion King 4