"there are too many cars around and my city isn't walkable. I better kill myself."

All his friends were in prison

Forced to wagie at age 90

i kys myself too

americans are actually scared of homosexual rape and it's a scare tactic to keep people walking the straight path (pun intended)

This

Why are amerifats so against walkable cities?? Is this because they are fat and stupid?

THE MOVIE OF ALL TIME. MWAH!! MWAH!!!

Do u gays think Brookz ever got treated the way Andy did at first? You know, droppin the soap in the shower and being told to suck it off and all that?

Andy spent 20 years in prison.
got his ass fucked multiple times,
was forced to do illegal tax evasion for the criminal elite,
had a young friend assassinated
his former friends, coworkers, and all the local community knows he murdered his wife
crawled through 1 mile of pure shit
had to flee to mexico
scrubs the paint from some old boat
only friend is an old nigger who knows nothin other than prison stuff

how the fuck is this a redemption story?

walkable cities is a dishonest commie euphemism

it's about poorserverance u know. not givin up even though u is in an shittie sitatuition, revengeing those who harmd u

Especially if you're way too old to adapt once you're set free.

a prison is the ultimate walkable city, he didn't know how good he had it on the inside

It's about maintaining hope throughout a desperate situation. Red literally tells Andy, "hope will kill a man" but in the end Andy maintaining his hope across the years is what finally allows him to recover his freedom.

Is it true that some cities and suburbs
in the US don't even have sidewalks?

ok, here me out, I'm not gay or anything, but if Andy could turn back time, wouldn't it be better if he just accepted Bogs as his bf and they'd hang out all the time??

I remember watching some bong movie once about a muslim immigrant woman who gets mixed up with a criminal gang, and when she tells the boss she wants out he tells her something like

unless you continue to do everything I tell you to do I'll make sure the police find out about what you've done and send you to prison. The prisons in this country aren't segregated by sex, so every single night for the rest of your life you'll be raped by male prisoners.

Is this really true, brits?

freedom

but was he really free?
I assume he was on a wanted list. How is that being "free"?

how so? What's wrong with it?

He was no longer Andy at the end of the film, he was Randall Stephens, a man with a striking resemblance to a convicted criminal but all the requisite ID and an extensive history of banking and paying his taxes who now lives in a foreign country.

it's quite common for suburbs to not have sidewalks in the parts that are just detached houses, but there will be sidewalks in areas that are commercial properties, or denser residential like multi-family houses or apartment buildings. So not really an issue in cities.

didn't he escape in like the 1960s? Nobody would have tracked him to mexico then.

he fucked up the whole prison system. there's no way JFK would let stuff like that go. I bet CIA sent out thousands of agents on a manhunt to find out his whereabouts. And its not like Andy was that careful, he maybe told someone he'd travel to mexico or something.

They need to make a sequel to Shawshank Redemption where the cops hunt down Andy and kills him. As the movie ends it supports criminal activity. Andy was a thief and a murderer, he took others money and spent it on vacation trips and booze. That isn't benificial behaviour to a society. He should be arrested, put on trial and hanged. I'd call the movie Shawshank Redemtion 2: Shawshank Redeemed

He went to Hell after this and is screaming in unimaginable pain lol

This. All movies need to have a morally correct ending where the bad guys get punished and the good guys prevail. It is a cultural imperative for every single movie to be made this way. There should be a law!

Andy was a thief and a murderer,

He wasn't a murderer and as he says he wasn't a thief until he came to jail.

exactly!

thief

how the fuck do you know? he was willing to put a bullet in his wife! and he also worked as a banker!

he wasn't a murderer

his actions directly led to the death of several people, maybe he wasn't a murderer by the strict definition of the word but you can't say he was 100% innocent

Why is this always the highest rated movie on IMDb? Is it because it has no major flaws?

but who's the good guys and who's the bad guys?

how the fuck do you know?

Because he literally tells the audience and he gives us no reason to doubt his claims.

his actions directly led to the death of several people

Who? You can't claim Norton, the guy killed himself to avoid responsibility for his crimes. That's like saying cops are also culpable for his suicide because they were there to arrest him.
Tommy is 100% not his fault and he was murdered by Norton to keep his slave and continue to hide his crimes. I can't think of any other actions of his that led to a death and certainly not "directly".

The bad guys are the evil people who do bad things to good people and get put away by the nice Mayberry cops in the blue uniforms

A funny post...i like that.

Because he literally tells the audience

yikes

and he gives us no reason to doubt his claims.

I guess an alcoholic banker who has a loaded gun is trustworthy

Who? You can't claim Norton, the guy killed himself to avoid responsibility for his crimes. That's like saying cops are also culpable for his suicide because they were there to arrest him.

You mean if Andy hadn't escape, Norton would still kill himself?

Tommy is 100% not his fault and he was murdered by Norton to keep his slave and continue to hide his crimes. I can't think of any other actions of his that led to a death and certainly no

You mean if Andy hadn't pushed Norton into the tax evasion scheme and then wave with his "get oout of jail"-card, Tommy would still have died?

And aren't you forgetting his wife and the golfer? Those two directly died cause of Andy.

Suicide is a kike's game thoughever

we're actually just less fag than most other people especially white americans
and since most fags are actually mindless whiny perpetually adolescent taboosexuals craving attention and rebellion, you mostly find them in prison as a result because they "did gay crime" for attention/the inability to regulate their dumb animal passions

the official cope from the italians (and hence now from blacks and everyone else in prison) is that it's not really gay to be gay in prison

the truth is it's fags and the rest of the world freaking out about "puritanism" and "protestants" and "repression" because white americans are like ah no thank you, we don't want any sodomy today moshe, and please do stay away from my kids

In America do they really just kick out 90 year olds and tell them to get a job? How the hell are they meant to retire? Suicide seems like the only sane option

I like the Chinese ending to fight club where it just cuts to the text screen saying that they were all arrested and sent to an insane asylum

No, before kicking them out they have to get those rags off of them first

judaism

same thing

yikes

Faggot.

I guess an alcoholic banker who has a loaded gun is trustworthy

He maintains his story his entire life and even with his confidants over decades he never once changes it. He's proven trustworthy to the audience. There is no reason to suspect his claims he was not a criminal before he came to prison are not true.

You mean if Andy hadn't escape, Norton would still kill himself?

So he was supposed to stay unjustly incarcerated after the warden had cut off his avenue to having his case re-examined by murdering a willing witness because if he were to escape and reveal the warden's crimes the warden might kill himself instead of serving any time for his crimes?

You mean if Andy hadn't pushed Norton into the tax evasion scheme and then wave with his "get oout of jail"-card, Tommy would still have died?

Andy didn't Norton didn't push him to anything, he just helps cover his crimes with more adeptness than Norton could do on his own. This is established. Tommy died because someone murdered him specifically to prevent him from being able to testify as a witness. Andy erred in his judgement by trusting the warden and coming to him with the issue first rather than going straight to a lawyer but even if he had it's likely Norton would have had him murdered or suicided to keep Andy imprisoned. The idea that Andy is directly responsible for Tommy's death is preposterous.

And aren't you forgetting his wife and the golfer? Those two directly died cause of Andy.

No. They were murdered by a home invader while at the residence of the golf pro. Andy had nothing to do with it. And Norton knew that too. You think he would have had killed Tommy if he suspected there wasn't any credibility to the accusations?

Nothing wrong with it but its pushed by commies to end private car ownership and take away people's ease of travel
Its the same way environmentalists pretend that cars a huge source of air pollution

Would andy really get that much jail time for killing his cheating wife in 1930s? (even if he was guilty)

He maintains his story his entire life and even with his confidants over decades he never once changes it. He's proven trustworthy to the audience. There is no reason to suspect his claims he was not a criminal before he came to prison are not true.

he's a character from novel, you can either view him from a fairy tale-perspective or insert some reality to it all and draw your own conclusion. I guess you watched the whole movie as a fantasy fairy tale

So he was supposed to stay unjustly incarcerated after the warden had cut off his avenue to having his case re-examined by murdering a willing witness because if he were to escape and reveal the warden's crimes the warden might kill himself instead of serving any time for his crimes?

Andy had already planned his escape long before, the first thing he did was to order a pickaxe, iirc, what Andy did was to post evidence which would criminalize Norton, so he did in fact force the poor guy to suicide himself

Andy didn't Norton didn't push him to anything, he just helps cover his crimes with more adeptness than Norton could do on his own. This is established.

So you're saying Andy was an accessory? he was a criminal?

Tommy died because someone murdered him specifically to prevent him from being able to testify as a witness.

Tommy and Nady spent time together. There's no jury who'd believe Tommys testimony.

Andy erred in his judgement by trusting the warden and coming to him with the issue first rather than going straight to a lawyer but even if he had it's likely Norton would have had him murdered or suicided to keep Andy imprisoned. The idea that Andy is directly responsible for Tommy's death is preposterous.

Directly/indirectly - what's the difference?

Why are you defending the poor writing of King?

he also killed a gold pro and golfers has great network and knows some inluent people

sent out to die alone only once he bacame a harmless old fart

no future, nothing to build or look forward to

feeling left behind and out of place in a unimaginably changed world

all while wageslaving every day for nothing

Sad.

He would have gotten 10 years at most. We didn't really start getting these huge life sentences until the late 1970s

hands you spoon with a hole

Jail movies are shit and everyone who thinks theyre interesting is a faggot retard

he's a character from novel, you can either view him from a fairy tale-perspective or insert some reality to it all and draw your own conclusion. I guess you watched the whole movie as a fantasy fairy tale

No, I watched the movie and have made my conclusions based on the actions of the characters.

Andy had already planned his escape long before, the first thing he did was to order a pickaxe, iirc, what Andy did was to post evidence which would criminalize Norton, so he did in fact force the poor guy to suicide himself

The escape becomes unnecessary once his innocence is established. He's denied the ability to prove his innocence a second time by the actions of the Norton.

So you're saying Andy was an accessory? he was a criminal?

I never denied he was. I said he wasn't a thief until he came to prison and he says which I have reiterated earlier and you said "yikes" to.

Tommy and Nady spent time together.

It would only form the basis of re-opening the trial with further investigation.

There's no jury who'd believe Tommys testimony.

Not believed it enough to kill him.

Directly/indirectly - what's the difference?

Is that a serious question?

Why are you defending the poor writing of King?

I'm not. It's the screenplay of Darabont and the basic shit that happens on screen that you've missed I'm explaining to you. It's ironic you suggest it's King's writing because you're then suggesting Andy is responsible for deaths that don't even occur in the novella. Neither Norton or Tommy die in it.

Something tells me this guy is the man in charge... you could say he's the... Decision Maker.