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He had a heart attack
Just a kid.
Onion ring killed him
Heart Attack
Meadow killed him. Watch the show back there is no one in front of her.
The cut to black doesn't suit this.
Shit ending, all of Season 6 is bad.
He was in hell in this scene, he’s watching himself die every time. It’s not Meadow walking in at the end, it’s himself from the beginning of the scene.
Zelensky whacked him.
Jamal Ginsburg punched his fucking lights out
GET IT GET IT
His heart stopped hence the song.
It was over. The indictments were coming, the jersey mob was mostly killed off, capos like Carlo flipped.
A heart attack can kill you pretty much instantly if it’s big enough, and I’m sure that fat fuck was on the verge of a massive one
I think Tony did die. The way the scene is framed, with the tension building as he waits for his family, seems to set up a moment of finality. The camera cutting to the bell ringing, the door opening, and then cutting to black without any resolution… it’s jarring, and that sudden cut feels deliberate. It mirrors how quickly life can be taken away in Tony's world. The sound of the bell is a subtle nod to "the end", kind of like a death knell.
Plus, throughout the show, there’s always the looming question of Tony’s mortality. His whole life is filled with danger, and he’s always made decisions that put him in harm's way, whether he realizes it or not. His past catches up to him by the end of the series, the unresolved conflicts, the threats from both inside and outside his crew. The final scene serves as the perfect metaphor for the unpredictable nature of his life.
And the fact that David Chase chose to end the series like this, without giving viewers a definitive answer, speaks to the ambiguity of life itself. People are always speculating about Tony’s fate, which keeps the mystery alive.
But honestly, I don’t think it’s just about the death, it’s about the idea of death constantly hanging over him. In the end, whether he lives or dies, the threat of death is always present in his mind.
He did die, David Chase literally said so like 15 years ago.
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The ending doesn’t matter because Tony is doomed and he’s going to hell, if not right then then eventually. Kennedy and Heidi is about him accepting he’s an evil person who’s not going to change. And heaven and hell exist in the Sopranos universe.
David Chase has been very vague about it and has never definitively said "Tony died" or "Tony lived" in any concrete way. He’s actually made it clear in interviews that he wanted the ending to be ambiguous and open to interpretation. If I’m mistaken please post where he said that as I have never heard him say as such.
David Chase has been very vague about it and has never definitively said "Tony died" or "Tony lived" in any concrete way.
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Regardless it’s just an NPC take that you have to agree with the creator’s interpretation of a scene that’s deliberately left ambiguous
Creator says how the show ends
WELLL ACTUALLY NO I THINK THIS HAPPENS INSTEAD
lmao
Tony soiled himself.
Yes.
Was it hot in the diner? The heat's the first thing you would have noticed. Hell is hot, that's never been disputed by anyone.
he was eating sausage by the truckload, they didn't know about the nitrates. Just a kid, really.
A meteorite suddenly hit and killed everyone on Earth. That’s why it cut to black.
*midways are always speculating about Tony’s fate
FTFY
it’s pretty universally understood that Tony got whacked, no point in rehashing the same completely obvious foreshadowing that has been mentioned 1000x before, all you have to know is that when asked what happened chase said there’s no ambiguity and it’s all there for people that pay attention. That’s about as concrete as it will ever get, because the “mystery” of Tony’s death is the only thing keeping this dudes legacy alive, MSoN was a fucking disaster, this show seems to be the only thing he had in the tank
The end for you was exactly the same as it was for Tony. Banal, meaningless, empty,unsatisfying, hollow. As he was as a person, and ultimately his time on this Earth was too, and your own fake admiration and misplaced envy too is hollow & nihilistic.
Did the Barese family take over after Tony's death?
He’s said many times in interviews (and this one is no different) that he doesn’t want to give a definitive answer because part of the show’s essence is about ambiguity, the idea of life and death being uncertain. He said, “If you think Tony died, he died. If you think he didn’t die, he didn’t die." This is the key quote, showing that it’s about the viewer’s interpretation. Please post a quote of Chase saying that Tony died in the final scene of the sopranos if you disagree.
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On it not being a mystery; I have seen plenty of decent arguments for why he is conclusively whacked. But I have never seen a single argument for why, conclusively, he is not whacked. Makes it a really boring discussion when someone goes with the opening argument "The scene with Bobby on the boat paired with Sil in the restaurant? Pretty conclusive right there." and the response is "No, it wasn't, in this house Tony Soprano is alive! End of story!"
Grandpa was a lion.
Ah i see, you're a smooth brain.
She was an amputee not a grill
not agent Danielle
In that article, Chase says he wants viewers to feel the same uncertainty that Tony feels in that final scene. Tony knows the threat of death is always around him, so when he’s in the diner, he's basically waiting for it. But Chase never confirms that Tony’s number was called in that moment. He’s just trying to show how Tony’s life was always on the edge of death, which makes that final moment feel inevitable. I think what Chase meant by that quote is that the clues about Tony’s fate are there for viewers who pay attention but he never comes out and says, ‘Yes, Tony died.’ Personally I think Tony did die but David Chase has never confirmed one way or the other.
If I come over to your house and I have an empty 5 gallon bucket of blue paint and painting supplies with dried blue paint on them in my car, and I ask you what color you think I just painted my wall, and you say blue, and I say haha yeah that’s a really good guess and based on all the stuff you see that makes the most sense but I’m not going to tell you, that might leave it “ambiguous,” but it still doesn’t mean it’s not fucking obvious
I am not a smooth brain, it is my belief that Tony did die which I stated clearly in my original post. However I am pointing out that David Chase has never confirmed Tony’s fate one way or the other and your article does not disprove that. Please post a quote of David Chase confirming Tony’s fate if you disagree since the article you posted did not include David Chase confirming Tony’s fate.
She was hot role playing as a wop bimbo
Piece of ass, but fuckin rude
I heard the nurse say you went number 2 in ya pants... is that what happened?
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Reminder that in an interview David Chase referred to the last scene as the "death scene". He also said that the original ending was supposed to be Tony driving into New York for a meeting and have it cut to black, but they thought that would make it too obvious for the audience that Tony died and they decided to go for the restaurant scene instead
Your analogy doesn’t really apply here since there are no hints that make it that obvious and cut and dry. Tony Soprano's death at the end of The Sopranos is left deliberately ambiguous, and there’s a strong argument to be made that he didn’t die in that final scene. The tension of the diner is not a direct buildup to his death but rather a reflection of the perpetual uncertainty that defines Tony’s life. Throughout the series, Tony constantly contemplates his own mortality, whether through therapy sessions or near-death experiences, and this pervasive sense of impending doom makes the final moment feel more like a continuation of that anxiety than a conclusive end.
The cut to black is jarring, yes, but it’s more a representation of the unresolved nature of Tony’s existence than a definitive death. The scene is built around the idea of waiting Tony watches his family, remains vigilant, and is hyper-aware of his surroundings, which suggests that, at that moment, he is still very much alive. What’s more, the ordinary, almost mundane atmosphere of the diner contrasts with the expectation of a violent mob death. There is no explosive climax, no dramatic confrontation, just a snapshot of family life, a stark contrast to the bloody, high-stakes conclusion we might expect. The absence of a violent end suggests that Tony's fate is left unresolved because, in his world, nothing is ever really resolved.
The series ends not with the finality of death but with the unspoken reality that his life is an ongoing, unpredictable journey, full of threats and uncertainties that won’t neatly tie up in one moment. Tony’s story, like the nature of the show itself, is left in a state of constant flux, the cut to black symbolizing not his death, but the unresolved tension of his life.
Now I don’t agree with it and think he did die, however there is an argument to be made and it’s not black and white.
i'm not old, i'm only 37
AJ is now older than Tony at the start of the series
there’s a strong argument to be made that he didn’t die in that final scene
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there are no hints that make it cut and dry
Nigga…..
Did Paulie switch over to New York after Tony's death?
That's a good point, and it’s true that David Chase referred to the final scene as the “death scene,” which does seem to imply a connection to Tony's fate. However, it's important to consider what Chase meant by that and the broader context of the show. When Chase says it's a "death scene," he could be referring more to the metaphor of Tony’s life, the constant looming threat of death that’s always hanging over him. Throughout The Sopranos, death is an ever-present reality for Tony, and that final scene captures that tension perfectly. But even then, Chase never outright confirms Tony's death, only that the ambiguity is intentional. Even more simply, perhaps David Chase referred to it as the death scene because it is the scene that has left fans debating if Tony died. Regardless, his referral to the scene by that name does not confirm his death.
As for the alternate ending with Tony driving into New York, it's actually really revealing. The idea of cutting to black while Tony’s on his way to a meeting makes it clear that the intent was to keep the final moment open to interpretation, which aligns with the themes of the show. The diner scene, while it could suggest Tony’s death, could just as easily symbolize the ongoing nature of his life. It's possible Chase chose the diner over the meeting idea because he wanted to keep the scene more grounded in Tony’s day-to-day, almost mundane family life, reinforcing that, even in moments of calm, Tony is always waiting for the other shoe to drop. Chase’s original intention was never to definitively say Tony dies, but rather to present the tension and unpredictability of his life. He wanted to keep the ending ambiguous and open to interpretation, which is why he chose an alternate ending that left it that way.
lmao you are so stupid
I wouldn’t be surprised if they lured him in just to whack him.
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He switched well before. He's been in the game for decades and knew Tony's time was coming to an end. That was the main reason he declined his capo position
You were in PURGATORY my friend!
If you disagree please post some hints that make Tony’s death as obvious as having “an empty 5 gallon bucket of blue paint and painting supplies with dried blue paint on them in my car” and then asking you “what color you think I just painted my wall.”
And Paulie stood up when his time came, much to Butch's benefit.
wait but who killed tony?
ignores the part where david chase said "oh fuck" when the interviewer pointed out that he just called it the death scene
I disagree and believe that you are stupid for thinking that Chase’s intention wasn’t to leave Tony’s fate ambiguous and up to interpretation. He deliberately chose the alternate ending to leave Tony’s fate that way since the original ending he had planned made Tony’s fare too obvious. Chase didn’t want to say whether Tony lived or died, he wanted to leave it up to the viewer hence him choosing the more ambiguous ending.
Since the show ended he’s never confirmed Tony’s fate. Your assumption that Chase referring to the final scene as “the death scene” means he is saying Tony died only furthers my believe that you are in fact the stupid one here.
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Getting chatgpt to argue for you and still lose is peak midwit
what about the superbowl commercial? it strongly implies that not only Tony, but A.J and Carmela died back then and the only one left is Meadow
This
He also said that the original ending was supposed to be Tony driving into New York for a meeting and have it cut to black, but they thought that would make it too obvious for the audience that Tony died and they decided to go for the restaurant scene instead
We know already. Paulie stood up. The maloik on the crew he was going to have to take up was what pushed him over the edge to talk to to Butch.
David Chase’s reaction of saying “oh fuck” after referring to the final scene as the “death scene” is actually really revealing about his own feelings towards the ambiguity of the ending, and it speaks to the complexity of his intentions.
From the context of the interview, it seems that Chase was reacting to the weight of calling the scene "the death scene." He likely realized, in that moment, how much pressure and interpretation had been placed on that scene by the fans, critics, and media. By calling it the "death scene," Chase realized that it could be seen as him giving an answer to a question that had been lingering for as it could be seen as a very loaded statement. His exclamation of “oh fuck” seems to reflect a certain regret or unease about using that type of language, knowing full well that it could be used to shit down debate over the interpretation of Tony’s fate.
By calling it the “death scene,” Chase may have felt like he was undermining the intentional open-endedness of it, which likely sparked his immediate, reflexive reaction of frustration with himself.
A Brooklyn lackey.
this is some chate gpt shit
Who had him whacked?
Pajeet, enough of the AI sloppa if you ever want redeem status.
No, it is a coherent and nuanced argument, things that someone who believes David Chase referring to Tony’s fate as “the death scene” and responding with “oh fuck” means he is deliberately confirming Tony’s certainly lack. His reaction to calling that scene “the death scene” only further proves the fact that his intention with that scene was to keep Tony’s fate ambiguous and up to interpretation.
why do retards choose to engage with ai?
how are you even going to function in the workforce when they start charging tons of money to use ai? you're going to be crippled in life you moron
Your ad hominem attacks in place of a rebuttal proves your inability to articulate an argument in response and your cowardice and insecurity to admit you were wrong. I accept your concession.
No one is ‘engaging’ with so except the “retards” using it as an ad hominem attack in place of formulating a proper rebuttal because they are too afraid to admit when they’re wrong.
Butch got Paulie to OK the hit on Tony. Not much else to say. You are the one making circular semantics to no one but your deepseek model.
There is a lot to say as David Chase’s intention with the final scene was to leave Tony’s fate ambiguous and up to interpretation. As I stated clearly in my original post in this thread I believe Tony did die. I am simply pointing out that his fate has never been confirmed and was purposefully left ambiguous up to interpretation.
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I accept your concession. Tony’s fate is ambiguous and left up for interpretation.
by that logic dumbledore is a 80yo gay congolese with 5 partners including snape, which also a nigger
I am simply pointing out that his fate has never been confirmed and was purposefully left ambiguous up to interpretation.
Just because there are no IDs doesn't mean it's the same anon every reply you receive. I never disputed this, just your annoying overuse of AI.
i dont care about that you moron, just stop using AI
No one is using AI.
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He compromised.
it's like one of those generic, vague ending montages in movies, where the viewer gets an idea of how the rest of the characters' lives go. here tony is shown to live a dark, paranoid existence where it can all end anywhere at any time. but this scene obviously depicts his death