How do you refute him?
How do you refute him?
Renown is for narcissists and people that erroneously believe we live in a society worth connecting with.
so everyone on this board
point out that nobody talks about Jazz musicians around the dinner table anymore.
Whiplash is fucking awful
This attitude is a sign of an intense fear of death which is beta and pathetic
One simple word
"Why?"
No but if you had posted that on reddit I'm sure you would have gotten many good boy points in compensation for the obvious, unfunny, and useless joke response.
By pointing out that nobody talks about jazz drummers.
Well thats just fucking stupid lmao. Pass the mashed potatoes.
this
the funniest thing about him and his teacher is the fact that they think playing jazz covers constitutes greatness. they will fight and die to ensure that they make the right toots so that they can secure the gentle applause of bored aristocrats.
that's not true, people still talk about Buddy Rich. Not because he was a good drummer, mind, but because he was fucking crazy
This. Human connection is what matters, that and becoming a fully fledged adult
WE LIVE IN A S0CIETY
Who cares about what plebbit would think. Go back if you love it so much.
"small dick energy"
Who gives a fuck about being remembered besides attention whoring faggots? Eat your peas, faggot boy.
He left out the part that your loving family, your wife and your children and maybe grandchildren will remember you and talk about you after your death. Oh wait, this is an american movie.
I’d call him insecure because he’s rather live his life seeking the validation and recognition of other people rather than living his life doing what he enjoys.
anyone talking about nigger music drummers
Lol
Kleos (glory, renown, the songs they sing about you after you die) is an architypal concept in western culture and the storytelling tradition.
It is the choice Achillies must make in the Iliad. Quit the battle, live to be old and happy then die forgotten; or fight and die knowing they will tell of your glory for thousands of years.
You think channers " believe we live in a society worth connecting with"?
There is more to life than ones own "enjoyment"
Good fucking lord you are low IQ and a bad poster
Correct.
And that isn't seeking validation of strangers.
lol
You'll be dead either way and people will forget about you eventually, why do you care?
I would totally suck a cock if it got me internet fame.
If one aspires to greatness, the recognition of those who can genuinely recognize it has tremendous value.
What a terrible post
Lot of bad posts on the board right now
Wipe those tears off the keyboard so you can see the period key.
Point out that he should’ve been a scientist and discovered immortality so he could have the best of both.
the truth is, he is wrong, in the fact that being 90 years old and not remembered, is noble too. both are noble ways to go, either as the wise old man, who raises the next generations, or the brave hero, who risks it all and tragically dies in sacrifice
Eat your peas, faggot boy.
doesn't know the diffrence between effeminate fame and manly glory
There's no glory in being some gaywad jazz drummer. Eat your peas, faggot boy.
peas go very hard, i recommend adding peas to hong kong style, minced beef over rice with a sunny egg
oooooh next ringo star over here. Why dont you hop in your yellow submarine and go do your drumrolls somewheres else?
Might be good. I'll try it sometime.
but he did. that's the finale of the movie
You want to be a jazz drummer. You're going to die broke and nobody's going to be talking about you. Now eat your peas.
So? Did he eat his peas?
yeah when was the last time you heard anyone mention Miles Davis at the dinner table
last night
Only when the topic of peeing your pants comes up.
...nobody remembered who I was
How would that benefit you at all?
but i did have breakfast this morning
peas are disgusting, btw
imortality through ones acts and deeds
Yeah, that's not immortality though.
Let me guess you also hate sprouts
let me guess, you don't eat your greens and brush
Name a single drunk, broke dead 34 year old
Oh no!
Anyway...
jimi hendrix
Brussel sprouts?
I love brussel sprouts! Especially when covered in melted cheese. Peas, however, are vile and have no right to exist.
can't think of a better litmus test for lacking an internal monologue than this flick. 100% of the people I've heard praise this movie don't form their own thoughts about most anything.
i just wanna be druk
Rape him.
or the brave hero
How would he be a "hero"?
who risks it all and tragically dies in sacrifice
"Sacrifice" for what?
no one remembers jazz musicians besides jazz musicians and even then that memory only lasts a few lifetimes. Talent and dedication don't guarantee your legacy, it's ultimately up to chance. Everyone and everything will eventually be forgotten, but I won't give a damn since I'll long be dead.
And other platitudes. Gotta fight fire with fire.
Nobody care about jazz,even less about a drummer
why the fuck would anyone care about renown?
the universe could end 1 second after I die and it literally won't make any difference to me.
Not drunk or broke
it's weird because its pretty good but there is absolutely no subtext whatsoever. everything is exactly as it appears for the entire film. maybe that's why it has no rewatch value.
NOOOOOO NO ONE WILL REMEMBER ME!
that's 99% of people that ever lived, only a tiny fraction of a % of people will every truly be remembered as historic figures, many of them for malignant reasons, fewer for good reasons.
But your average retard who parties and does a bunch of drugs, no one will actually remember or care about that person and their memory will fade far sooner than a person that lived to 90 and raised a family. That person will be remembered forever by his children and grand children, friends and other family as long as they weren't some dickhead. I still think about my grandpa all the time even though he died almost 2 decades ago, I reflect all the time on what he would be thinking about me now if he was still alive. I'm sure I'll think the same about my father and mother when they pass eventually. I'd rather be remembered by the people I loved than some random people, and being remembered is overrated anyways. Life is short and you only have one shot at it and living a nice long life is far better than living a short life where you barely even get it started.
it's a metaphor for repressed homosexuality
I'd rather live longer, be a nobody and consoom more vidya and kinos. Sorry.
Achilles thought he was invincible. He didn't have your "live fast die young" idiotic mentality. He was blessed by two deities simultaneously, the son of a nymph, bathed in the Stygies, and still got rekt by some turk who stole his boss's girlfriend. Lmao. Utterly lmao.
wife's uncle just died
spent his whole life taking care of his mother and then got aggressive cancer the same year she died
his whole life was summed up as "liked watching sports"
i am a total loser failure in most aspects but holy fuck am i grateful and proud to be a devoted husband and father. makes for a far better eulogy
devoted husband and father
your uncle's eulogy will be devoted son
your's is not much better
I wouldn’t say a single word to him. I would listen to him which is what no one ever did.
And he can't fuck it up anymore
that is why no one will remember your name
his name? Barack Obama
only if the "greatness" you're talking about is how big and inflated your ego is
Fine by me, I don't want nerds mythologizing whatever shit I did thousands of years after I'm dust. Let others waste their life reaching for something they'll never see for themselves.
Who do you anons think will be remembered in a thousand years? I can't think of a single person alive today that would be a household name like Achilles here. man Pitt was perfect in this movie
as long as they weren't some dickhead
you could be remembered forever if you're enough of an asshole as well. My grandfather told me of his grandfather who was a legend in his area as the most cruel and ruthless man, he beat his kids bloody and would pick a fight with anyone who looked at him sideways, cheated his partner out of his business, cheated on and beat his wife, killed a person in ''self-defense'' twice etc etc We still talk about him over a hundred years after he died and the tree he liked to sit by is known as a cursed tree in his home village, little kids dare each other to go by it at night. That tree legend will live on as long as there are new generations of big kids passing it on to small kids, so he's effectively immortal in that small village.
the donald
this
I am not a 80 year black or beatnik
I'd rather be acknowledged by complete strangers than live a happy fulfilling life
Actual mental illness. I'm so glad I don't have this mentality.
he didn't even get the devoted son stuff though. he just got 'liked sports'. everyone seemingly forgot how he dedicated his life to his mother a year after she died.
There is more to life than ones own "enjoyment"
I mean... Is there really?
only if he actually finally does a fascism.
getting replaced by Ohio Mitt Romney won't really leave enough a mark.
you’re overrating him
doesn't warrant a response
young people enjoy life
then you hit 30 and your body starts to fail
oh god i don't want to become old and die a slow death in bed
i will make sure to die in a meaningful way before i hit 60
everyone hits 60
everyone dies a slow death in bed
how to prevent this?
That's the first thought that came to mind as well, but I think in a thousand years he'd barely be a footnote in history, unless he somehow becomes the very last president of the USA or fires the first nuclear missile that triggers a global nuke festival nothing he's done is remarkable on a thousand year scale. I think to really be remembered you have to either put down an indelible mark of passage on civilisation, invent or discover something paradigm shifting or live a story that people want to tell and retell forever. Don hasn't done any of these yet.
This. Clout obsession is for people who never moved on from high school.
its physically impossible to avoid living to 60, so I'm afraid there is no way out.
It's amazing seeing this lie about the Iliad being spread about people who've never read it. If you want to know just how wrong you are, here's a nice summary.
bitchute.com
just raise and love your children like countless ancestors of yours did
easy. mix wingsuit flying with base jumping, and do it 100 times. you WILL die, or find out you're an absolute legend at it and be able to make bank off a high-paying sponsor
leftist "media literacy" experts think that this movie is criticizing artistic perfectionism instead of blatantly endorsing it
peas
terrible how people forget
Lmao what a faggot, caring about the opinions of other people
you didn’t though?