GRIEVOUS

Millions of new fans were won over with Andor

lmao

YOUD CUT YOUR OWN LEGS OFF RETARD

Not if you had lightsaber legs....

Would this actually work?

was the biggest

Is.
Star Wars is huge. Nobody talks about MCU any more, it's fucking over for you guys.

no one cares about star wars anymore since they just make boring shows for gay people

I'd tell you to go back to your capeshit thread if you had one. It's ok padawan, you're welcome here, just join the light side and watch the prequels.

nuwars is just a shit as capeshit thats why no one watches star wars anymore

What was the actual point of OP? He didn't contribute anything to the board?

The worst character in any www, ever. What a fucking waste.

They don't have paper in star wars.

Use rollerblades.

This post is correct and should have ended the thread but no one saw it for some reason

A role that could have been filled by Dooku or any other fucking character or conflict.

consider the following:

mirrors.

I remember in 2004 watching Clone Wars and i was hyped for Grievous. His introduction was so fucking good, i was hyping my classmates to watch him in the movie. That he was going to be great and then Lucas ... fucking Lucas, fuck you nigger, i was the laughing stock of my class because i liked Grievous. Fuck you

Imagine how much better Andor would have been if Grievous had showed up to fight Andor in the final episode. That could at least explain why he was badass enough to destroy the Dearth Star in Rogue One.

Sex appeal.

110% this.
nope.

I always felt maul was a giant waste of time and hype. At least grievous didn't have commercials hyping him up before the movie

he looked cool and thats all that mattered. its a kids movie. its a kids franchise even.

Honestly Greivous was just let down by how he was portrayed. If he was at Clone Wars level in Revenge of the Sith, people would have loved it and it would have been awesome.

Maul had an awesome fight scene in The Phantom Menace, there isn't a better light-saber fight.

And then after that the actor elevated it to an amazing level by inventing and encouraging all this lore around him.

You seriously old enough to remember the commercials with Maul? I think he lived up to it.

the Robert E Lee of the confederacy

He's one of the Heroes On Both Sides.
Showing him is important to characterize the rebel side of the civil war, and to embody the fighting sides akin to three kingdoms champions

The ending of Andor has made people nostalgic about Star Wars. I have rewatched Rogue One and the original trilogy recently, and even watched Solo for the first time. Apparently a lot of other people have also gone back.

It feels so magical to be part of the wave of hope. It's litreally like how I imagined being bought up in the OT and PT would've felt like.

They made him the opposite of heroic though he was a total coward
Now this grievous could of worked more
You think having Dooku killed by Anakin has no significance? Grievous existing also gives more of a grander sense to the confederacy and foreshadows Darth Vader by being a half-machine enforcer agent for Dooku.

Yeah, we basically just got The Good Prequel Trilogy added to star wars.

Then what is this

He is a foreshadowing of Anakin, both being cyborgs

OPEN UP HERE COMES THE SPOON UR A BIG BOY
screenrant.com/star-wars-prequel-villains-foreshadow-anakin-darth-vader/

Plot didn't land, imo.
Reckon they should've focused more on him in AotC and ran a whole cyberpunk arc about how the body can be reduced to nothing.
Would've been a nice parallel to the tale of the clones.

He literally have a coof like Darth Vader, if you don't get the reference you're pretty thick

The grievious scenes are on rails, they're shit. The fight is fucking atrocious. Shoul've been more blade runner tier.

the command bridge scene were dooku gets killed right at the start is a direct reference and subversion to the throne room scene in rotj and is very important. I don't think Grevious is necessary as a character, but Dooku had to die in that scene

Internal logic, you have a group of business'men' and Dooku running the show. Someone has to actually be in charge of the armies and fleets.
You also see how Dooku was the gel holding it all together and without him they were going to be at each others throats as shown on Utapau.
Finally, he looks cool lol acquire taste fag.

S o y w a r s: Vaxxed Leftist edition

If he looked like your picrel, then ye. But the picrel in op is fucking outrageous. It looks like an old vidya cutscene.

Please take your maulding elsewhere, forcelet.

outdated cgi

You mean like a 2005 cutscene you thickskulled cunt?

YENERAL KEN HOBBY !!!

But why not introduce him in AotC like Dooku and the others if he's the big general running their military?

A foreshadowing of Vader. Maul, Dooku, and Grievous are all intended as such. Grievous has a really tragic story desu. I listened to it on MetaNerdzLore and it just made the point again that the jedi were trash.

Rule of cool. He’s badass and not ashamed to flaunt it

If he looked like your picrel, then ye. But the picrel in op is fucking outrageous. It looks like an old vidya cutscene.

Just how tech goes, the Grevious in EA's battlefront 2 can look more real in the right lighting.

Sounds based. Could you make a thread with the deets?

Christopher Lee was too old to show up for another fight and Lucas just wanted to CGI everything.

Because George is awful at planning things in a proper sense, it's more here are dots of events that happened and he makes up the lines to connect them as he goes.

The entire war was only 3 years, so with the events Anakin and Obi-Wan partake in they'd be in daily conflict with no downtime.
Oh and the clone army had 200,000 troops ready at the start of the war will only 1,000,000 more in the process of being made. And then we see that every ship is also crewed by clones... somehow.
George only came up with the idea of the droids needing a general post AoTC so then we got him at the end of his life, while the EU shoved him in that he was off screen at Genosis carving through clones and jedi in caverns.

Always thought itd make most sense if he was a Separatist general that got nearly killed during the course of the war and brought back as a cyborg at the insistence of Dooku

Which would've been cool had he been established in a previous movie as a non-cyborg and we get to see the consequences of the war and his proximity to dark side users has had on him. Instead he just appears as someone who has killed several unnamed jedi off-screen. Dude might as well be the guy who wrote the navy seals copypasta and was eventually called on his bullshit.

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wow, Genndy made this character fucking awesome

better ruin him completely lol

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class under Count Dooku, and I've been involved in numerous secret missions against jedi led forces, and I have over 300 trophy lightsabres in my collection. I am trained in your Jedi arts and I'm the top general in the entire Separatist Droid Army. You're nothing to me but just another fine addition to my collection. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which have never been seen before in the Outer Rim, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over a comlink? Think again, you fool. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of MagnaGuards across the Confederacy and your ship is being traced right now so prepare for the storm, republic trash! The storm that wipes out the pathetic thing you call your life. Your fucking dead, slime. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over 700 ways, and that's just with my four hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Separatist Army and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable temple off the face of Coruscant, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" transmission was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, Jedi scum.

and that's just with my four hands

good

decent

bad

reminds me of the OT.

They made him the opposite of heroic though he was a total coward

He was not.
He wasn't interested in dying ignobly or captured and made an object of ridicule.

He has Obiwan dead to rights but challenges him instead after seeing his courage. He cannot fight anakin and Obiwan both, so he tries venting the air from the ship and escaping.

He's ultimately always a CO first and foremost and understands the need for big picture thinking.
Everyone in the republic hates him and believes him to be the one reason for its continuation - this implies deep stratagems and a good understanding of warfare.
He's Robert E Lee in space.
He's not a cartoon villain.

it says RIGHT THERE in your screenshot. the fuck are Clone Wars era Separatists going to do? re-invent paper? why not just 'invent' winning the war?

Having too much of him pre-cyborg would steal Darth Vaders thunder too much, so the ideal would be him just existing as part of an exposition of a battle, a background character easily presumed dead by some explosion whos name is breifly mentioned beforehand. Having post-cyborg grievous actually kill a single jedi in combat would be important too, but the best Lucas could muster was having him impale a defenceless Shaak-Ti and then delete that scene.
Kek

If you were an old zoomer you know the feeling between ep 2 and 3 when you got mega hyped for anakin to become Vader and grevious in general. I had books and toys and read that he was this deadly jedi killer and then I see the movie (in full star wars costume not kidding) and he's a coughing borderline crippled weakling who doesn't even swing his sabers around like a real sith. Massive letdown when we worshipped maul a few years prior

MagnaGuards

why has this 'aged' the way it has? if it was stylized as 'Magna Guards', 'magna-guards', or some such, there would be no problem.

'MagnaGuard' sounds like something for Windows XP.

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George’s version of the character sucked. Gennedy Tarkovsky made a better version of Grievous based on concept art and notes.

MCU

Heh.
That's cute.
But no. Was.

Fair enough that he couldve just had Obi-Wan obliterated by droids but the reason Grievous stepped up to fight him always struck me as not just prideful but a matter of insecurity. He needed to be more than just a droid, and had killed Jedi before sure, but once he lost his advantage against Obi Wan he wasnt so keen to fight and ran away. Then again, Grievous was fleeing an entire army of clones actively engaging in battle not just Obi-Wan so I can see different ways of reading things.

mechanical

Its like pottery…

Maul= Mindless slave
Dooku= Fallen jedi
Grievous= Cyborg

Basically Darth Vader.

He doesn't even need lines in the hypothetical AotC appearance. Just have him look cool to draw attention to him, be named and given a command by someone like Dooku to show the hierarchy, he leaves and reappear in RotS as is. Just a character who adds to the scope of the setting by having a life outside of the main narrative.

impale a defenceless Shaak-Ti

I want to impale a defenceless Shaak-Ti('s pussy)

A bogeyman Palpatine was holding up to maintain the charade and cling onto power a little while longer

the Robert E Lee of the confederacy

not the character being played by an ACTUAL RELATIVE of Robert E. Lee

Dooku wasn't a general on the frontlines. He was the connected, political mover that brought the confederacy together.

Grievous carries the entire war effort on his shoulders, single handedly prolonging the war. With him, there's still political will to fight. Without him, it's a foregone conclusion, as good as won.

I thiught he'd be an ongoing major villian across three movies and not some flavor of the.... well not week... but just some forgettable jobber

Andor, ROTS anniversary, and the Star Wars Fortnite season are all happening this month.

he pulled Obi Wan away from Coruscant so that Sheev had the time and space to corrupt Anakin

Could've been Dooku and then the audience would've felt something meaningful was happening on Utapau while Obi-Wan fought him, and Dooku could've revealed Sidious's plans to him in his dying breath for a far better 'oh shit' moment rather than figuring it out through the convoluted retardation of seeing Anakin chop through younglings on camera

Dude, lightsabers for hands. I don't know why George didn't think of this.

Trouble is AotC as it roughly is doesnt give him a chance to have proven himself pre-cyborg even off screen, at least the audience would be left thinking wait so he was that loser that got btfo on Geonosis regardless of wether the republic had to retreat or not, Itd probably all work better if the Clone Wars had began by the first prequel.
Same desu

Grievous is characterization for the CIS precisely because he's not a double crosser like Dooku. Storywise, Dooku is simply not needed at this juncture

Why didn't they assume Dooku was the Sith lord?

Idk but he sounded cool

and Dooku could've revealed Sidious's plans to him in his dying breath for a far better 'oh shit' moment rather than figuring it out through the convoluted retardation of seeing Anakin chop through younglings on camera

Dooku already told Obi Wan everything in AotC and the whole council didn't believe him. I don't see how him saying the same information they already know would change anything.

In all fairness spinning the lightsaber encompasses at least a fourth of all lightsaber duels

Accurate

True. If you spin your lightsaber faster than your opponent, the likelihood that you’ll get him is higher.

I think it's possible to make it work if Grevious is sent off Geonosis to command forces in another system to open up a second front. Then by the time you get to RotS he's still fighting that second front and is the reason the war wasn't ended on Geonosis.

He's a pointless filler. Watch the Plinkett reviews.

Holy Crap Star Wars Is Still That Huge!!!

I keep hearing aobut this here. Could you open a new thread and give a qrd?

Guess you dont need to set up him getting gravely injured before becoming a cyborg or anything, shove it in the opening crawl grievous is still out there but has been turned into more machine than man

watches rlm reviews

hear mike say jj abrams should direct

Grievous learned the lightsaber from young Anakin on Tatooine.

What do lightsabers do anyway?
If one makes contact with you, do you disintegrate or what? Isn't that what happened to Obi Wan?

Obi-Wan's silly twirl in A New Hope is actually a taunt, in reference to this. The fights in Star Wars are like ballet where they tell a story through movement.

For me, it's the lightsaber cutting through the air and causing fusion reactions whenever it's moved.

yeah if it touches your skin, it cancels the circulation of cell life cycles in the Force aether. that's why organic matter disintegrates, but clothing does not.

in Disney Star Wars they are welding torches.

Not even accurate to the OT, PT or even supplementary stuff like Droids.

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in Disney Star Wars they are welding torches.

Lucas would NEVER!

Have you actually not heard of them? Not trying to be rude but that sounds extremely zoomer.

I agree.
Aparenntly I was supposed to watch a whole season of a stiffy animated cartoon to get his backstory. Honestly insulting and a waste in the movies

You aren't "supposed" to do anything beyond watch a movie if you want to understand that movie.

Im 60. I love Star Wars, it's been my lifelong passion, but I just don't use Tiktok or anything.

69 year old life long passion.

Just picture this guy in your head , and get out before this becomes you

i once thought this about thirtysomething internet weeaboos, but look at me now.

Why can some droids not hit a barn and others can duel? Shouldn’t that be trivially easy to patch into a droid?
(Yeah yeah, you’re head cannon is the trade federation was ment to lose)

George Lucas only made the prequels because he got the toy rights back from Kenner
So every new character exists for him to sell toys

Hardware is a factor, though maybe some B1s are better shots than other B1s because of calibration, would make sense if they can legit learn to get better with time given theyd need to adapt to whatever weapon theyre given and what state it is in etc.