Woman makes a movie about loneliness

it's easier for a fat ugly woman to get laid than a good looking successful man

be men

isolate yourself in your room/apartment in front of your computer throughout your teens, 20s, 30s, 40s...

so lonely, so depressed. how could women and society do this to me? :'(

nothing bad ever happens to wome-ACK

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That's a whole lot of projection they're, bud. Some of us have tried putting ourselves out there.

You could get a 2/10 girl as a 5/10 man right now if you wanted to

Even if that would be true, I am not sure you understand how pathetic that sounds.

Whatever, post lonely girl kinos

But I work out every other day, I do sports and work. I was just unlucky enough to be born under 6 feet and with not enough jaw/chin. Why the fuck should I accept someone that just *checks notes* exists, without putting in any effort?

Thunderbolts

There are millions upon millions of men and women who are lonely as fuck, because the world is twisted and the deck is stacked against them. And from a personal viewpoint I find that funny as FUCK.

I deserve someone as fit as I am, the dating market you are describing sets me with someone who does not take care of herself and this is logical and reasonable to you but not to me. And no im not an incel or caliming to be one im a reasonable human being, what youre describing is fucking insane and settling in every way, women who match me physically have inane and absurd standards and its not logical or reasonable and to that you say im choosing to be alone, youre fucked in the head.

There's a chubby quiet girl who would love to grab a cup of coffee with you.

With tattoos, a bodycount, a foul mouth and an entitled attitude.

Let me tell you a funny story, anon. I tried that whole lowering your standards thing when I was younger. You know where it got me? Set up on a blind date with an actual, honest to God hunchback. And the topper is she wasnt even my type. Have you ever had to look fucking Quasimodo in the eyes while you try to let her down softly. I didn't fucking think so

this

It's easy for fat ugly women to get laid, nigs go crazy for that, idk. You constantly see 180lbs reasonably attractive black guys cruising around with 300lbs white women, it's insane.

You can be surrounded by people all day every day and still be lonely. New York City is the most populated urban center with the largest reported demographic of people who suffer loneliness and depression.

You can be fawned by the opposite gender but still be lonely

I'm just highly introverted to the point that my social battery was exhausted by the bare minimum of school and work.
Now, at 28, my job is as low stress as it gets in my field and I see maybe 20 people the whole day, and I finally feel an internal desire to go out and be more social. I view it as opportunity and I realized that everyone who told me it was about my mindset was totally right. I would still argue that many of the standard practices in American society creates an environment that's simply abusive to people who aren't naturally outgoing.

Nothing. It's not their fault I am the way I am. God made me this way and it is what it is.

chubby quiet girl

also will only settle for chad

You're not a 5/10

This is the real point, also everything men say about women being whores can easily be applied to men
You tell yourself this because you dont want to settle for less than stacy

that would be correct, yes.

One thing that's gotten me down about people in general since I was in High School is that the norm is to view caring about things as cringe, being passionate is gay, and the social hierarchy is often a contest of who can appear that they are the least passionate. I've chosen the optimistic view that they are just trying to look dead inside rather than that being the truth. But I still can't stand to be around people who are more sarcastic than they are sincere.

I know it's about nihilism but every time I see someone being excessively snarky/cynical I send them that Smiling Friends video where the character talks confidently until he has a gun pointed at him and pissed himself while crying and say "this is you"

I'm long past wanting to feel more accepted and welcome. The scars run too deep for that.

Are you neurodivergent or otherwise on the spectrum at all. I only ask bc I’m ten years older than you, and I wasn’t diagnosed until last year.

Long story short- after being highly skeptical at first, then angry (insert all the other stages of grief here as needed) a LOT of things about myself became much more clear about my life and how I interacted with society (mainly to me, but a lot of other people that know me went “oh yeah- that checks out). The point being I’ve had very similar experiences to what you’ve described about yourself.

You might not be on the spectrum- you might just be a regular guy that’s pretty shy. Or you might be on the spectrum and then a LOT of stuff might suddenly make sense for you.

Or both. Just throwing it out there

and by stacy you mean not obese

the amount of self-pity men have in 2025 borders on the absurd

do you regret that there isn't a line of garage-dwelling hairy spics and gormless indians waiting to stick their dick in you, anon?

I would still argue that many of the standard practices in American society creates an environment that's simply abusive to people who aren't naturally outgoing.

You're absolutely right on this. The pandemic was the only time this environment flipped on its head. For once society favored introverts and inconvenienced extroverts.

They (the extroverts) couldn't handle a few months of being forced to live like introverts, meanwhile introverts have always been expected to have a good extrovert mask and live by extrovert standards. Extroverts were getting depression and even ACK'ing because they didn't have the entire world set up the way they preferred and weren't forcing everyone else to conform to their desires. Indisputable proof introverts are way stronger and better than extroverts.

How does one go about getting an autism diagnosis? I have always been introverted and preferred doing things alone and considered socializing a chore.

the introvert/extrovert thing is pseudoscience, you know.

Maybe women should stop voting for leftoids and supporting open borders if they don't want goblin brownoid thirdies lusting after them

It works if you watch it as unreliable narrative and the woman is being a schizo like Patrick Bateman that deludes herself about being lonely. You can now watch lonely woman movies.

even fat ugly women still have 20+ simps simping after her on discord

I truly do not understand what people intend when they say to merely go outside. Do they honestly believe that I'm just super shy and afraid to speak up or something? I literally have not had a conversation with a human in at least a decade. You think this is because I am just shy and unwilling to open up? Shutting yourself in is a symptom of the problem, not a cause. Do you think I want to live like this and that I haven't tried? I can't speak to people. My brain just doesn't have anything to say. And if I do try to force myself to think of something it'll just be some weird sperg shit that will just freak everyone out. Oh my god I hate you normgroids so much.

if I said that I rejected a bunch of indian and hispanic women you'd jump down my throat and screech that I only want stacy

bitch lonely while at the local gloryhole... men to blame...

I was seeing a psychiatrist for my depression and my bipolar disorder, and they’d mentioned having me take something called the RAADS-R. From what I understand it’s like THE test for diagnosing autism spectrum disorder. It’s free to take online, but I should warn you: the accuracy of the results (as with any mental health diagnosis) highly depend on a doctor’s assessment. Basically the test is a pretty strong indicator, but it’s not definitive. You still need to see a mental health professional to give you the diagnosis. Just to give you some idea of how “bad” I was/am pic related is the scale for scoring the results of the test.

…and then my results. You might be like I am, and be extremely autistic, but so high functioning that basically no one (including close family members) other than a doctor was able to tell without seriously looking into the issue.

raadstest.com/

I dated an obese woman for three years and we almost got married. She was actually really cool and I enjoyed her company and even loved her. I only left her because she got a different job that stressed her out and turned her into a complete psycho that would constantly take it out on me when it's beyond my control. I paid my dues so shut the fuck up about Stacy. I managed to get a 5/10 non-fatty afterwards though thank god.

tell her to blow it out her ass

I've often joked about it but I doubt it's actual autism. More likely I just cut myself off from most people for so long that my own social norms went in a divergent direction with the result being an inability to connect and relate to many people following THE norms. So many people are wearing a mask though and getting through to the true them is a trial of patience I've rarely got, not when you can find some people who want to be a real human bean with you. I'm lucky to have found some, but they are few.

chubby quiet girl

Without meaning to sound Jewish, black dudes cornered that market. Being fat is simply no barrier to a woman getting laid.

The specifics maybe but there are obviously people who are more jazzed up by social activities like concerts, clubs, etc and others who are happier around very few people if any at all.
You'd never catch me going to a concert even for a band I love.

I dated an obese woman for three years and we almost got married. She was actually really cool and I enjoyed her company and even loved her.

I paid my dues so shut the fuck up about Stacy. I managed to get a 5/10 non-fatty afterwards though thank god.

you sound like a real catch. I can't help but wonder why all the attractive women weren't into you

Also to add that 5/10 non-fatty left me after 3 years for a rich Egyptian manlet that was a decade older than her. That was what really redpilled me on women. It's not even Chad, any rich asshole can steal your girlfriend if they're interested in her.

you sound like a real catch

where do you think we are.jpg

take your pick of dating apps to see that even the most foul people imaginable still want prince charming

This

Whatever works man. I just know about myself I NEVER would have considered autism as a possible cause for my social anxiety and depression- prior to being diagnosed and putting myself through a crash course in autism school, I’d always been sympathetic to people with it, but I just didn’t think there was any way that could have anything to do with me because I’d only ever heard about it from tv shows and movies and holy shit do they not get it right! Like my whole understanding of the disorder prior to about 18 months ago was that it meant you were basically tantamount to being retarded. Like I thought they were all super geniuses who ironically couldn’t function in society and they all looked and acted like Stephen Hawking.

Yeah, not the case lol. Let me ask you this- when you sleep at night do you ever do anything that might be described as “T-Rex Arms”? Whenever I start to doubt my diagnosis I always have to remind myself there are physical symptoms of autism- and I have a few. Not *all* autistic people have some of or any of the physical symptoms, but it’s my understanding that damn near *only* autistic people experience them, so do with that information what you will

>woman makes a movie about loneliness

You would be right but I don't want an attractive woman because that's unrealistic. I want a blandly average one because I'm blandly average too. Is that too much to ask?

This. I just shake my head when see that in nigger ghettos

Shallow Hal wants a gal

Simps will pretend to be friends with her forever. Wtf is she talking about?

Fat people are disgusting, lowering yourself to date one is sickening unless your making them a project...or you're an architect improving upon the foundations.

There should be a place anyone can go and just talk to random people with no judgement, like, a place to find friends or a girlfriend, maybe spend some time together. Imagine being a lonely fuck (most of us don't have to) and just visiting this place and being like "hey i'm not so alone anymore i can actually talk to people and someone cares and wants to spend time with me afterwards"

Can't think of anything that I think could be interpreted as T-Rex arms.
Took the test you linked. I think some of the questions had limitations in the phrasing but here it is.

furry conventions

I CAN'T BREED! I CAN'T BREED! I CAN'T...

just never fucking ends with you faggots, does it? im getting so fucking sick of you stupid cunts that never go outside and then complain they cant get laid. nigger wtf do you want from people

Legalize shrooms
It's literally a plant
Imagine being scared of a plant
That's our government working as intended

just never fucking ends with you faggots, does it? im getting so fucking sick of you stupid cunts that never go outside and then complain they cant get laid. nigger wtf do you want from people

A fat ugly 40 something years old BPD woman i know eats for free going on dates every evening hwile changing boyfriends every other month
I truly don't believe a woman can be lonely unless she wants to shit off from the world entirely on purpose, meanwhile men can be lonely involuntarily just because they have some minor flaw like short height

People say go outside but they mean go out to settings you don't enjoy or engage in communal suicide rituals.
I go outside and it's still isolating, but at least sunlight and nature are good.

perma-ban everyone ITT

I just want people to stop torturing animals

Quit whining

There should be a place anyone can go and just talk to random people with no judgement

this, i just ended a talking stage shit with a girl that was going nowhere who trauma dumped on me about how lonely she was and how her 'friends' all discard her one by one. she is nowhere near ugly either, she is really pretty. All she was doing to me past couple months is pushing me away til I finally decided to block her.
3 days later i see her talking to a dude at work who everyone thinks is gay but he isn't, and she is hanging out with him every weekend now. he's way fuckin guglier than me too, I don't fukcing get what I did wrong

But girls always have fucking options, they don't know what being alone means

The female dating experience is something that I can't quite wrap my head around. Like I know obviously men and women are different, but it's just crazy to me how something as crucial to our lives as relationships is a completely different experience for men vs women.

As a man, I know that if I'm not constantly approaching women, going into social situations, using dating apps etc then I'll be alone and celibate, in other words, getting a gf requires work. But because women are the ones who typically get approached, do women just sort of passively exist, go through life and instinctively know that sooner or later a man will ask her out?

Again, it's just crazy to me all the hoops you have to jump through as a man to get love whereas with women it's basically handed to you on a platter. Imagine if jobs were the same way.

as a man, you actually have to hand out resumes and face and constant rejection

as a woman, you have CEOs coming up to YOU and offering jobs

My brother in Christ, that’s called “just going outside”

I know it sucks, and I know for certain kinds of people with certain mental disorders (not judging if you have them, I have a bunch) it can seem almost impossible, but connecting with people (like minded people!) really is just that easy. It just takes a lot of patience, repetition, and being open to learn from your mistakes and get out of your comfort zone.

Here’s my tip, this might not work for you, but it worked for me- make a list of all the places and activities you’d like to go to or participate in with friends or with a romantic partner. Now just go start doing them by yourself. “But that’s dumb! I’ll still be lonely! And worst of all, people will see me being alone and I’ll be embarrassed/they’ll judge me!”

Almost nobody is going to do that second part- you would probably be shocked by just how little strangers are paying attention to you or could give the slightest shit there’s a man by himself somewhere they also are) but also, where else do you imagine you’re going to meet all these people you want to meet who are into the same stuff you’re into? Guess what? They’re all already there at the place where you do that stuff because they’re into it- you’re the one slowing everything down by not putting yourself out there. But secondly, and this part is important IT DOESN’T HAPPEN OVER NIGHT! Or even in a week or so. What I’m suggesting is- do you like comic books? Start hanging out at your local comic book store! Do you like politics? Start showing up to local city council meetings. You need to be a known regular at the place where the kind of people you want to associate with also hang out.

2/2

And there’s one more thing- you have to be brave and actually talk to people once you get there. You shouldn’t run up to every person you see and immediately start aggressively shaking their hand and introducing yourself, but maybe you start going to a local pub for lunch a few times a week. If you keep going places regularly, not only will you yourself become a regular- you will begin to notice other regulars- and they’ll most likely notice you back. After a while it really doesn’t seem so weird or uncomfortable to strike up a conversation with somebody at the local coffee shop- you both go there frequently, you both recognize each other- at that point it pretty much becomes hard *NOT* to make friends. All you have to do to strike up a conversation is “recall something that happened while you were both present” like that’s seriously all there is to it. And if they’re friendly they’ll be friendly back. And if not, say fuck em and move on. Now you’ve got something new to bond with the next person over- how much of a jerk that last guy was!

as a man, you actually have to hand out resumes and face and constant rejection

as a woman, you have CEOs coming up to YOU and offering jobs

anon...
CEO's don't do the hiring. my wife's last 2 jobs were from random women who work in HR chatting her up, and the conversation ending with a job offer.
She was talking with some random lady about how she is looking for better work, and mentioned she used to be a dental assistant.

wow we need a dental receptionist and you wouldn't need to be trained on all the terms and procedures and such, when can you start?

Better job than I have ever held that wasn't a college work placement.

meanwhile i can't find shit and the job i got via nepotism won't exist in a month.

go be an ignorant boomer somewhere else

My fat unfuckable housekeeper has literally 1000+ matches on her dating app. She showed me after I turned her down

Women are the ones that can feel true loneliness. Ugly sloppy guys that put no effort into bettering themselves are not worthy of pity.

I cannot stand this condescending bullshit. I promise you I've tried anything you can think of. Yes, believe it or not you aren't the only person with a functioning brain that can apply reason. Yes I am capable of thinking for myself. Please get it through your thick fucking skull that not everyone can be saved. I know it's more comfortable to think of the world as a meritocracy where anyone can be happy if they just try super duper hard but that's not the case.

T. Arnold

I don't think he's totally wrong, but he isn't accounting for at least 1 thing. Maybe the kind of people you want to be around haven't gotten as far as you and they're still rotting at home every moment of leisure. Can't do shit about that.

unintelligent animals are incapable of self-reflection

Whoa...

You haven't tried hard enough

going outside is a fantastic strategy for dating foreigners and the elderly but i'm keen on people my age and race thanks

Godlike advice

go outside

nothing happens

is there some sort of hidden step i'm missing?

I have. You just have this idea in your head that everyone has the same problems that you did and that your solution is a cure all.

no, you just need to start doing that habitually. you need to build a life that involves something other than squirreling around on the internet. every moment that you spend on your PC or your phone is poisoning the well of your personality and your lifestyle.

No. The people that come here to post this while never acknowledge the vast disparity in quality of life between a man and woman. They just want to gaslight you into thinking women have it tough so they can continue to live their easy mode no accountability lifestyle

you need to build a life that involves something other than squirreling around on the internet

like what?

I don’t know what else to tell you except what worked for me. Also I did start exercising a LOT (that’s also a way I’ve met people- I’m a cyclist and I go to a lot of cycling events, but it could be just your local gym), paying super close attention to to my appearance, but I think the main thing was a serious and very intentional attitude adjustment. I had to force myself to to be not just outgoing which is super uncomfortable for me, but I think the most important thing is being intentionally friendly and pleasant. It sounds stupid, but people like people who like them- or at least are nice back to them.

Oh, and it really helps to remember details of things people tell you about themselves and to follow back up on them. I personally thought this sounded dumb, but you’d be surprised just how much people get a kick out of just you remembering they were gonna try a new recipe and then following up on it the next time you see them.

It’s super basic stuff, and there’s no guarantee it’s going to be a perfect solution for anybody, but it’s advice I really wish someone had given me when I was at that point, so if it helps, great! If not, it doesn’t bother me. And who knows, maybe some other lonely person will see this and it might help them

and I finally feel an internal desire to go out and be more social. I view it as opportunity and I realized that everyone who told me it was about my mindset was totally right.

I finally have the desire to be social too at 27. The problem was that the reason I isolated in the first place was from recieving so much abuse from normies. Schools are basically a zoo where all the animals are put in the same cage. Law school was unironically the first place where my peers didn't seek to destroy me for their own sick satisfaction. It was so refreshing.

Mental how 4chinless by the same advices that redditors give lol

Go somewhere and interact with people

If she was kind and loving, with no tatoos, I would take her. Where do I sign up?

interact with people

I can't even make conversation with retards on Anon Babble or discord

People will acknowledge that pretty privilege exists, but dont truly internalize the extent until they lose it. Pretty women who get fat in their prime get hit with this realization the hardest

Now imagine autistic looking people who often hit that uncanny valley look with normies. Getting fit won't help them. They were losers from the start.

just go and interact with retarded normalcattle thousands of times until one of them gives you the time of day

lol

it's your life, you figure it out.

just bee yourself

be me

I'm supposed to approach strangers in public like a weirdo while most normies got their gfs effortlessly without trying

here's a brutal blackpill when it comes to dating, if you feel like you have to actively "try" and put in effort to get dates, you're probably fucked. the reality is that most men just coast through life and meet women without even really trying.

most men didn't meet their gf/wife by cold approaching them on the street or on a dating app, they just had friends, went to parties, joined clubs in uni, had a job that required them to be around other people, or played sports like a normal person and next thing you know they met a girl they liked and they clicked and hit off.
they didn't think "I'm so tired of being alone, maybe if I self-improve, get a six pack and do nofap and take cold showers girls will finally like me".

I don’t know what else to tell you except what worked for me

be honest with us and yourself and tell us when and where this worked for you. was it in the middle of saskatchewan, in 2025? because those are the conditions i'm working under.

become hot in half a year

It's called losing weight, fatty.

I'd proudly take a woman who's less than my looksmatch or a little overweight if she's all that and wants kids. Too overweight is more indicative of poor mental health. Bonus if she's into any kind of nerd shit even if it's not my same kind.

the mean strangers on Anon Babble won't tell me what my hobbies should be. How am I going to get a 7/10 gf now??

learned helplessness

this. what's changed is that is these days it's impossible to meet fellow autists and make real friends because of the death of the internet and mass antisocial behaviour.

Oh, yeah well it’s hard to physically associate with people if you are not physically near many people. Then in that case your problem isn’t “how to make friends/date” it’s getting in close enough proximity to another human being to be able to say hello in the first place.

I don’t know what to tell you except that if you’re lonely and you’d like to spend more time around other people, pretty much the biggest component of solving that is getting yourself physically around other people

most men didn't meet their gf/wife by cold approaching them on the street or on a dating app,

no longer true

Even ugly women get laid constantly thanks to Tinder. This is where you or others say some bullshit like

"Oh, well those guys aren't GOOD!"

It's better to have some options than no options at all. And yes, ugly men have no options at all. Make an ugly man dating profile and see.

remove gf from the equation and it's still true. modern relationships last a few years if you're lucky

for people to stop taking themselves and things so seriously and for fags to cease putting on airs that they are tough all to impress people who couldn't give the faintest of craps about them. that and for people to just be more open and not so on guard at all times

few women truly experience loneliness, but the ones who do are lonelier and sadder than men.

This.

You know, the funny thing is that many men would probably even consider dating her. Issue being: women still expect to conquered and talked to. It doesn't occur to them that if they aren't top shelf material perhaps they should try to do the conquering themselves. I say this a quint lingual lawyer, who's somewhere in the 8 or 9/10 range. I would date chicks way below my own (physical) attractiveness level if they'd fucking try. They just hardly ever do.

B-but they think they don't have a shot

Not a reason. Grow some figurative balls.

ugly women and broke/low status men are the most undesired groups of society, but at least broke men can always make money.
ugly women, unless they want to spend thousands of dollars on plastic surgery, will always be ugly

massive cope, all women have orbiters

I believe it. I'll be watching the sunset at my local park every Friday. I'm going outside, how about they join us?

it's frustrating too because women still seem like they want to be approached but will freak out at a man who does try to approach them.

be man

don't approach women

women are disgusted by you for being a virgin

be man

approach woman

women are disgusted by you for trying to talk to them and being creepy

Holy incel batman

It's not always about sex, weirdo. Women can have high standards for a man and never meet him, and again I'm not talking about looks, an attractive woman that wants a smart husband she can actually talk to and relate and have fun will not be happy just because she can fuck a bunch if guys she doesn't even like, in the end she's just being used for sex because of her looks and her smarts and personality are not appreciated.

This is advice I think a lot of dudes that post here might benefit from hearing, but you know how you’d go to approach a male stranger you wanted to strike up a conversation with? Try that.

The reason I suggest that is bc I don’t think a lot of guys that post here actually view women as people. They think of them as some exotic incomprehensible different species they need to trick or study up on to interact with. Like they think there’s some magic word or phrase where if they can just say that, they’ll instantly fall madly in love with them.

I’m not saying this is going to work every time for every person, but if you have a really hard time meeting women, maybe try imagining what you would say to another man you wanted to make friends with in that situation and try saying that instead. Just a suggestion

Women have conditioned each other to be too self-conscious, never taking a person or what they say at face value.
Unless you're attractive enough of course. Have you tried trading in your father for a more attractive one?

ah yes the classic "talk to women the same men you'd talk to men" advice.
sounds good in theory, but in reality if you don't flirt or create that sort of "spark", most women will only see you as a friend and not a romantic partner.

you know how you’d go to approach a male stranger you wanted to strike up a conversation with

People who think for 1 moment to approach strangers of any kind aren't drawn to this website.

I'll be honest with you: this is and has always been retarded advice if you give it in a generalized manner. Unless you're a fucking personality lacking NPC you will, as a guy, have some need for BANTER culture deeply embedded inside you. You can't pull that with women the way you can with other men. This only works if you're a "nice guy", fake or real. In any other case you will have to read the room, read the woman, adjust your behavior HARD.

What's funny? Nobody is lonelier than a burned out whore with a thousand cock stare. An empty husk that will never know love or meaningful connection with another person, even if she really tries. That's a torture that men, who love so easily and deeply, can't fully understand.

Damn, if only someone had warned her.

There are no women with which no one wants anything to do with.

Burn victims and literal retards. That’s about it. Other women can get all the attention they want with ease, even uggos and whales.

but you know how you’d go to approach a male stranger you wanted to strike up a conversation with?

...no?

Have patience with the failed normies.

Almost nobody is going to do that second part- you would probably be shocked by just how little strangers are paying attention to you or could give the slightest shit there’s a man by himself somewhere they also are

This is blatantly untrue - anyone who has female friends and has heard them talk amongst themselves will notice this as well.

I don’t know what else to tell you except what worked for me

Your age and location is very important and I assume you know that which is why you left it out.

Okay. I don’t think so, but knock yourself out I guess. But my whole thought as it relates to this insecurity I always have- like still, I’ve never gotten over it- is of meeting a girl you like, really hitting it off, and then her just not being romantically attracted back, is that yes that sucks, but having friends isn’t a bad thing, like I could use some more friends in my life if I’m being honest. But also it’s not inconceivable that they know somebody I might be even more into. Like if the girl I like just isn’t interested in me like that, is she also a friendless shut in who lives under a rock? Unlikely (and if so, how the fuck is she turning me down dude!), so there’s a pretty decent chance some of her friends are also similar to her, and if I’m friends with her and she likes me, she’ll think it’s a pretty good idea to introduce us.

And that’s not a trick or some PUA manipulation shit- 80% of people got their current job because of the recommendation of a friend. That stat doesn’t seem surprising to anyone, so why would you turn up your nose at applying that same thought process to meeting a romantic partner?

Oh I’m 38 and I live in a major city in the Midwest. I’m average looking so nothing to write home about. Like I said, I can only tell you what worked for me. If you want, feel free to apply some or none of anything I mentioned. As far as I know what helped me come out of my shell might literally only be applicable to me, but that’s why I say, feel free to take the parts you like and use them, of ignore any/all the stuff that you really don’t think applies to you

taking advice from failed normalfags

do you want to end up like them, still on this website, bragging to strangers about your 2/10 wife and mutt child?

I fucking hate discord gaming nerd faggots who spend their days shitting on autists ( the only people who are lower than them on the social hierarchy) and their whole personality is being an edgelord towards vulernable people ( but dont heccin insult le women or blacks though or youre an incel!). I knew a normal fag like this who likes to bully autistic people (brags about how be bullied mentally ill guys in hs) but is an insecure gaming nerd manlet himself who used to be insecure about himself in freshman and hides behind a normie wigger friend group in order to not get his shit kicked in. But also hates "chuds" and thinks sexism and racism is too far

This is just cope. Men and women can't be friends if the man is physically attracted to the woman. Plain and simple. You accepting then rank of an orbiter, telling yourself you're alright with being friends, doesn't change that. I agree that it may be better than never having talked to a woman but the scenario you describe here is more painful for the guy than it helps them in most cases. More often than not being around the chick you like who doesn't like you back or you can't have for other reasons will not have a positive bottomline. Plain and simple. You need to have a fucking faggot mentality for it to do. Cause any normally functioning male will want to touch eventually. And no, "getting over it" is not a game plan. It's you praying that you will with the off chance that you won't cause you still orbit her.

Ever notice how in normie friend groups, there is always the top dogs whom everyone takes seriously, never insults, and is extremely full of himself, and them there is the guy who is always at the brunt of every joke, gets shat on for the entertainment of the others even when it becomes straight up humilation, is never really taken seriously, and if he were to insult back he would get ganged up on by the others!

stop being a pussy is jussa joke bro!

YOU CALLED ME A BAD PERSON BECAUSE IM AN ASSHOLE IMMA KILL YOU NIGGA YOU GET NO BITCHES

Incels are unironically right about normalfags.

Why would you intentionally hang out with people who are mean to you? Or conversely why would you intentionally hang out with someone you really couldn’t stand?

Like you’re describing the kind of friendship dynamics I had when I was in the 6th grade and the only people available to hang out with were the other 16 kids in my grade. As an adult who is still making you hang out with these people you don’t like?

Imagine some Anon Babble autist dsygenic who lacks even the most basic of social skills and is naturally not very attractive going up to randos in bars attempting to jestermaxx and befriend them. Literally in what universe does

Go out and meet people bro!

Work? In reality, people who have lots of friends have been bulding their network of social connection since literal grade school and have expanded on them since. Chad never needed to go out and befriend other males or go out to meet chicks, they all came to him naturally without him trying one bit. If you were an autist anti social pariah even as a kid, sadly chances are you will be that for the duration of your life

that's been your personal experience anon. don't project that on to everyone else.

I dont hang out with such people im talking about hs obviously. Most young people especially in the age of social media are ruthless sociopaths. But my point is that is youre a autist trucel there really is no point in hanging out with normies. You will always be the "other" guy, even if they admit it to you or not

You’re making things seem a lot harder than they really are most likely. But I do think a big part of it is your attitude about the whole thing. You just have to be patient, try and be friendly and outgoing, and remain consistent. Even if it just means you develop a friendly relationship with the guy that works the checkout at the gas station, that’s still one more than you had before. And it might not seem like it, but that kind of stuff builds. Being social is a muscle. You need to build it and maintain it. Unfortunately we need it to have good mental health, and it requires effort on our parts, and on top of that it’s not easy. But I’m telling you even if it doesn’t amount to resulting in you dating the hottest woman in the world, what you’re probably going to get out of making an intentional effort to be more friendly and outgoing going is a couple of more friends than you started with. And I don’t know about you, but I’m pretty happy with the idea of having more friends in my life

and it requires effort on our parts,

and that's the thing, I hate that it requires effort.
as I said here , we're supposed to just approach random people while most people have naturally formed friendships from their school and/or work

I have quite literally never had a friend. I haven't had an actual conversation in at least a decade. I can't remember the last time I spoke to someone for longer than 2 minutes. Does this put things into perspective for you or do you still feel that our lives are comparable?

I mean I just hang out at places where being social is kind of expected. I go to a lot of local punk shows, I regularly attend cycling events (I was just at a cycling canned food drive this weekend and there’s an ally cat coming up next month!), and in general I just hang out at a lot of bars and coffee shop. In settings like those it’s totally normal to casually strike up a conversation with a stranger or just someone you don’t know but kind of recognize because you see them around.

Like that’s the secret all those big scary people with all those friends used: they just hang out at places where it’s cool to make friends

There's no such thing as an "ugly woman" because there will always be one guy who wants them
Compare that to ugly guys who no woman finds attractive

Listen, I’m not your therapist, and maybe I’m totally wrong and you really are hopeless and you should just give up and go home.

Okay.

Well since you’ve given up, there’s no stakes anymore. You already failed, so you may as well try chit chatting a little bit with one of the people you see at the hardware store. What’s the harm, you’ve already failed, you can’t do worse than that, so you may as well just start going to local sporting events and asking people you’d like to make friends with if they know the score, and then sharing your reaction to it (hint: that’s a way to start a conversation with a stranger). Since you’ve given up, maybe start looking up online if the local library is doing a book club. Or if there are events coming up at your local community center. You just opened up so many opportunities for yourself just now when you gave up, because you freed up all that time to go find creative ways to be social with people around you that might share one of your interests

kek literally me

I went to a bar trivia night with my friend once and everyone just sort of stuck with their own little group and didn't talk to each other.

Every last one of you should kill yourselves

so you may as well try chit chatting

Please stop saying this as if it's as simple as breathing air. I can't. My brain shuts down when confronted with socialization and doesn't produce any thoughts for me to verbalize. It's as if you're telling me to levitate. It is impossible. It's not hard or uncomfortable. There is nothing for me to say.

american "man" makes a movie about the male condition

i know it's a joke to you, but there are many mental women and some of them very anxious. you wont know any or see them, since they are just as reclused as some of my anons. it's a shitty world out there, don't let hollywood kikes paint a world for your mind that doesnt exist.

nigga that shit all sounds expensive as fuck. another reason why people don't pursue hobbies anymore is because its not 2004 anymore. everything is exorbitant so staying in and just sitting on Anon Babble is the most affordable option even if you have a well paying job

NIGGERS

Shut the fuck up, you disgusting whiney scum.

kek shut up Ale

This is not true, I have plenty of attractive female friends and it makes my gf seethe. The trick is that they became friends either in school or in groups with shared interests (theatre etc). You become friends by having an earnest discussion about common passions

To not be demonized for my race, gender, religion, and sexuality.

I bet 80% of those are from Facebook which means friends and family but online.

THOSE EVIL WHORES WILL NOT GIVE ME A CHANCE

no, i will not shave, lose fat, take care of myself, develop personality, dress like and adult, or engage socially, why do you ask?

When a girl likes me she should just tell me

changing the definition of loneliness

real loneliness is having no one who cares about you, not about not having the perfect chad giving you attention