Why would Star Wars need lightsabers, CHUD?

What does Star Wars have that other space operas don’t have besides Jedi’s with light sabers ?

Good music, positive morals, a message of hope

George Lucas' creative eye, and the input of some really great artists back when it was good.
Effectively Christian morality tales, with the numbers filed down.

That's what makes it more impactful than Halo, for example.

Mando was amazing until Luke came in and saved the day (literally)

All that and still devoid of worth.

I'll be mad for a while that Fagloni stands in the way of anything good happening

This is correct and concise.

Its definitely not what fans in general really want but nothing is. Mando without baby yoda, luke, ahsoka etc. would of been my preference desu

They're too phallic anyway. Star Wars needs peace talks

positive morals

message of hope

ILM

It really doesn't. It's not about jedi. They're a part of a much larger story.

Star Wars needs imperial chuds getting RAPED by the progressive forces of the rebel alliance, why arent there rebel RAPISTS being portrayed?

Andor wrecked you, didn’t it, chud? It triggered you hard. You sat down expecting the usual space wizard circus, lightsabers clashing every five minutes, stormtroopers getting tossed like ragdolls, and instead you got people sitting in rooms talking about oppression, sacrifice, and the cost of rebellion. And you couldn’t handle it. You were shaking, weak chin quivering, eyes glassy as if someone had reached into your childhood and snapped it in half. No Jedi came to save you. No Force theme played to comfort your nostalgia-addled brain. Just tension, grit, and characters who actually had something to say. You wept. You sobbed so hard your neckbeard caught most of the mucus before it could hit the keyboard. Your face turned red and blotchy, your squeaky nerd-voice cracked as you yelled at your screen, begging for a lightsaber cameo that never came. You posted through it, too. Whole paragraphs of misspelled rage, calling it boring, calling it woke, calling it anything but what it really was - Star Wars for sexhavers.

This was written by a millennial who just wants to self insert, and knows he's too much of a neurotic. unachieving Twitter "activist" to think he could be anything special.

i think it's very strange that you chuds latched onto this as if it's some supreme complaint or gotcha.

The sequel trilogy does not exist

The Empire got dealt with back in 1983, I haven't watched Andor because I have zero interest in going back to the starting line all over again.
The only media I'd watch featuring the Galactic Civil War is a movie depicting an increasingly powrful New Republic curbstomping a decaying Empire and kicking them out of Coruscant.

If Andor so are the sequels, and the sequels tell us nothing the Rebellion did mattered

Anon Babble poster thinks hes a special boy just like Luke Skywalker from Space Trek

Im saying chuds should get raped? Im on your side sister

That's completely illogical

No, I just don't self insert.
Self inserting is for idiots.

How?

evil government

gee i wonder how many trump metaphors are in this show

The sequel trilogy takes place after the original trilogy

The only arguable one is the rich mobster Mon Mothma marries her daughter off to the son of.

Yes, very smart, and it says nothing that happened in the OT mattered and the Rebellion ultimately loses

Shut up faggot

regular people rising up against an evil government

So, Luke?

Lighsabers? Useless junk.
Jedis? Fasc*st militia.
Aliens? Problematic otherness.
The Force? Fasc*st imagery.
Spaceships? Technofasc*st evolutionism.
Cinema? Bourgeois entertainment destined to fool the working forces oppressed by the bourgeois system.
Science-Fiction? Regressive escapism confectioned by the totalitarian bourgeois system to limit the working forces' natural aspiration to revolution and seize the means to production and lead their glorious destiny.

tldr. Soviet Art should be the only art the masses need.

Why? It's the truth, Andor and the rest died in vain, and Mon Mothma ended up becoming a c
poor, complacent and naive leader that allowed the Empire to regroup, who demilitarized the New Republic and ultimately caused the New Republic to be destroyed.

He was a special space wizard and son of the emperors top guy, destined to be part of some grand prophecy
Agreed comrade

He was a special space wizard and son of the emperors top guy, destined to be part of some grand prophecy

Not in Episode IV

This, quit making filler ffs

Nah, it’s not Star Wars. Just as with Trek, the inept and malevolent stewards of a once great franchise used the IP as a template on which to peddle their own propaganda. They stripped it of everything that made it unique and special. Then they churned out the same tired, dour, ‘gritty’TM slop that is promulgated by Hollywood ad nauseam. Andor is a zombie marionette masquerading around in a Star Wars suit. But you already know this.

A chud sees the term "evil government" and IMMEDIATELY feels that his sweet Drumpf is getting attacked lmao

Rouge 1 showed the perfect way to use lightsabers when Vader was being a completely overpowered cunt with one at the end of the movie. There was just too much of it in most of the movies and they lost their impact.

total journalist death

I'm not even American, but it's hilarious how overly dramatic you Americans are.
Too much movies and main character syndrome epidemic, that's the US

Lol, you’re basically admitting you can’t handle anything that isn’t a neon lightsaber dance party for entitled manchildren. There’s zero propaganda, just complex characters and real consequences, something you clearly can’t comprehend. You are crying because there weren’t any babies building droids or toddlers flying spaceships in Andor lmao

The political aspect of Star Wars is the most boring and shallow part of it, the tens of thousands of years of lore and the stranger parts of the Force are way more interesting.

You are the kind of fedora tipper who'd be pretending he is so much more adult for preferring The Dark Knight over Spiderman in the 2000s

Star Wars

complex characters

You are the kind of millenniañ manchild who wants "Pokemon for adults", aren't you.

Star Wars finally achieves the level of political nuance of Mobile Suit Gundam(1979, show for literal ten year olds), or Babylon 5(1993, show for autistic highschoolers) in 2025.

That's great. I feel really special for you.

He was revealed to be the son of a Jedi Knight which Obi-Wan was also, and was put on a path to learn his special space wizard powers but I guess he never used them beyond tapping into some sorta ultra-instinct that let him land his shot on the death star reactor, which he was prompted to do by a special space wizard talking to him from beyond the grave. Remember Obi-Wan used a mind-trick power so it was clear from the start that the force meant magical powers that most people couldnt use even if it wasnt necessarily hereditary at all and maybe anyone could be trained to attain such powers, regardless Luke was still special space wizard boy

ultra instinct

Oh god, on top of being a millennial it's an unironic Reddit Ball viewer

Welcome to Star Wars, Jedi are simply superior.
Luke in one week did more damage to the Empire than anyone else in the Rebellion.

Millennial

Reddit Ball

Please take that back anon both are incorrect statements

People still care about star wars? Don't you have something better to do?

Whatever you say, American millennial

the 2nd season was kinda dogshit, what exactly are people going so crazy for?
low effort writing, the entire grain planet was a waste of time, and copy-pasting the french resistance + adding a lesbian pajeeta to it, was extremely fucking low effort and just cringe.

trump won btw

Thats literally my point anon, other anon was arguing that Luke was just a regular guy

Let's see your tv show

constantly cry and scream and piss and moan for 8 years how trump is an evil fascist nazi mega hitler and make literally everything about him

And he is, just a regular Jedi

I think star wars should be about stupid fun lightsaber shit, if I want political drama I'll watch some shit based on historical events, not fucking space lasers pew pew

Hello fellow democrat I also enjoy it when the good goys win and everything gets turned into a crime ridden multicultural walkable city with a vibrant unhoused community!

I don't mind lightsabers but Andor was great and I'd rather have good shows without lightsabers than boring jedislop.

Labor will set you free!

Hello fellow democrat I also enjoy it when the good goys win and everything gets turned into a crime ridden multicultural walkable city with a vibrant unhoused community!

But enough about Arizona and Texas

i like it because.....

Too bad what we got was boring slop about a war that we saw end 50 years ago.

I'm not an Amerimutt, keep me out of your pathetic political circus

whats great about it?
the 1st season was ok, but the 2nd season is a fucking waste of time.
9 episodes, 9 hours, and pretty much nothing fucking happened.

Jedi were the good guys and audiences can't have that. They have to swim in villainy ans cynicism and nihilism.

If your ideals cannot withstand even slightest criticism you are an infantile

Just like you hate cities being walkable because left wingers said its good, you feel compelled to side with a comically evil empire from childrens movies out of contrarianism, you are detestable to the majority of the human race, even your ‘fellow whites’ who have more walkable cities in glorious evropa btw

No, he was arguing that he wasn't a heckin' chosen one when SW originally came out. He was just a regular Mary Sue. Prequelcels don't understand how much the PT retconned the OT.

What criticism?
Millennials seething they can't self insert?

What criticism?

cynicism and nihilism.

Yeah, that's just people going

what if good guys were bad heh

without adding anything to it.
Millennials are just perpetual 13 year olds

Yeah, you definitely don't sound grumpy right now.

All you Americans are so low IQ you unironically try to make political allegories over toddler slop like Star Wars.
This is why the Chinese and Russians are beating you at everything, they aren't stuck daydreaming over mediocre blockbuster media.

Beating at what? China has its successes but also some serious worries for the future (and it's still a dystopia) but Russia is a rotting junkyard with a gas station.

Russians are beating you at everything

this is what polcels actually believe...

And what is the US?
A country suffering brain drain, with no political party that has any idea about economics and a population that wants to kill each other.

You literally lost a war against them

Lightsabers and Jedi are toxic and homophobic

Lightsabers are a completely retarded weapon for anyone but a jedi because you need to have force prescience and reflexes in order to not get your ass ventilated by any retard with a cheap blaster. There's only like a handful of jedi in existence compared to the galactic population. In-universe, there are very few people who have ever even seen a lightsaber IRL.

It's like telling a story set on Earth, but you only ever focus on conjoined twins and object if someone makes a story that doesn't feature conjoined twins.

NOOO SWORDS AND MAGIC REMIND ME THIS IS STAR WARS AND NOT MY CULTURE WAR SELF INSERT BAIT

lmaoing at this fag.

B-but I need my laser sword nostalgiaslop!!

It also doesn't need anything to happen either apparently.

You literally lost a war against them

this is what polcels actually believe...

The article subtitle says ‘regular people rising up against an evil government’, and apparently Luke fits this bill according to other anon, at least in the first movie. My argument was that even if Luke wasnt necessarily THE chosen one or whatever he was clearly not just a regular farmboy as he was revealed to be space wizard descendant and trained to be a space wizard and use space wizard powers with special guidance from a special space wizard

This is a cope because Disney has completely fucked things up with the sequel trilogy.
Same reason they don't do anything with Luke, because it reminds people of TLJ.
Even Andor itself is ruined due to the sequels.

Well, turns out Star Wars shows regular people can't get jack shit done.

because trump HATES lightsabers. your move, lucasisters ...

People bitch when star wars is just the same old shit

People bitch when its something new

People bitch when its too childish

People bitch when its too mature

they really cant win lol

Han wasnt a special wizard and he kinda saved Luke by getting Vader off his tail, and nothing would of gotten done without co-operation of many regular people, rebellion gave Luke his X-Wing and helped him reach where he needed to go to save the day. The point is the article is highlighting the show being just about the ‘regular people’ probably meaning regular compared to special wizards

Good.

Frick that, I'd rather have my worldview formed by juvenile political takes delivered by failed YA novelists who self-insert as BADASS girlboss ninja cgi cartoon characters!...

You guys are literally just turning into Boomers ten years ago, with how quick you are to make insane accusations against Millennials for absolutely anything. We're going to be back to "Millennials killing restaurants" soon.

I'm 24.

24 year old Boomer.

Doesn't matter, without Luke the Death Star destroys Yavin, and Vader doesn't kill the Emperor.
You can't compete with Jedi.

You can't compete with Jedi.

stormtroopers killed thousands of them without effort during order 66

This mutt is such a disingenuous hack
You clearly dont have less ‘culture war’ brainrot than that fag thoughbiet
Zoomers & Boomers both want to scalp millennial faggots get used to it

They caught them by surprise.
After that a padawan was key in taking down the Empire

andor is the best star wars thing since episode 5

taking a character like Saw who was played by a black man and making him an unhinged drug addict feels a bit racist or at the least it is careless handling of characterization of a character of color. i also found the show to often be sexist and lacking in strong female characterization

Not stormtroopers, CLONE troopers, who were all clones of Jango Fett, as was Boba Fett. In other words, they got wiped out by an army of Boba Fetts. BIG difference from the clumsy, hapless stormtroopers of the classic trilogy.

without adding anything to it.

That's just your perception or rather fragility of your ideals.

I haven’t watched Star Wars anything since the Last Jedi. I think the goal was to set the standards so low that they’d lap up any slop put into their bowls.

fragility of your ideals

What, that Jedi are good guys?

someone says or does something you don't approve of

no confirmation of this person's age (or there is confirmation, and they're actually 20 or 50)

immediately blame everyone born within a 20 year interval

This makes sense, and is not equivalent to old man shouts at cloud.

What, that Jedi are good guys?

Good guys who fucked up everywhere, due to their dogmatism or their arrogance and fucked up the Republic.

someone acts like a pretentious manchild over shallow blockbuster schlock

people accuse the demographic infamous for doing this all the fucking time

The biggest Star Wars fans are people who can remember the initial hype window in the 70's and 80's.
Millennials were more into the prequels and Harry Potter as a thing, and then mostly moved on.

They became incompetent due to being turned into the pawns of politicians. If there's any bad guys in Star Wars is the political class, and the Jedi are the good vigilantes.
Star Wars is, accidentally, libertarian.

Yeah that is how the movies are written, the article is appreciating something different. Might be a shit article from a shit writer for all I know, but Im arguing pedantically from a value neutral standpoint here

They became incompetent due to being turned into the pawns of politicians.

Wrong. They did it to themselves once they locked on Coruscant Temple.

. If there's any bad guys in Star Wars is the political class

Politicians kept ideals of the Republic alive along with common folk, while 2 remaining Jedi knights runned away like pussies

Millennials were more into the prequels

Just few nostalgiatard who were 6 back then and mentally still are

Why would you need the SW IP for your story about no Lightsabers, invader?

That's okay, I don't need Disney Wars.

The Republic that died in record time due to the utter incompetence of politicians?

We dont need Sóy Wars at all, only watched first 3 movies as a kid, Indy was better

simplistic and great aesthetic, did you read dune? its bizzare

and the Jedi are the good vigilantes

Maybe in TPM, AotC onwards they betray everything they once stood for and Anakin rightfully calls Windu and Obi-Wan out for it.
The Jedi turned from guardians of peace to a bunch of self-serving monks who abused the Force to get what they wanted. It's no wonder it eventually decided to cleanse itself from them.

Due to relying on Jedi council in all matters. Due to Jedi Order failing their main job, keep peace and fend off the Dark Side Force users, also known as Sith.

They absolutely did not move on, theres a huge cohort of prequel loving star wars fans that complain about ‘OT boomers’
Qui-Gon buying a child slave was pretty libertarian I guess

invader

Theres always been star wars media deliberately focusing on characters that arent force users because its always interested fans, even specifically non-significant characters since there is a novelty to that

died in record time

A thousand years?

two sides of a same coin

chinese yes, but russia lmao? a shitty poor empire that cant even defeat its former colony

Talking about the New Republic.
Star Wars is a story of politicians taking turns to ruin the galaxy whole soldiers and Jedi try to make something worthwhile out of it.

god i wish uprisings against evil governments were real

To Hell with Brits - Britain Doesn't Need Them

Well fuck you

Meet the New Germans

they kinda are

It's good to have all the data now to conclusively say that what people want from Star Wars is: jedi/bounty hunters, space battles, hot alien sith girls and all of it aimed at a male audience. Now get to it.

You are functionally equivalent to tedious lefties who read problematic fascism into everything and decide to purl clutch about it

Its just a joke sped

Why did Ashoka fail then, incel?

SWT

male

Pick one

Has Star Wars Theory released any videos yet where he screams and cries about S2? I bet the rape scene must have made him piss himself

Theres always been star wars media deliberately focusing on characters that arent force users because its always interested fans, even specifically non-significant characters since there is a novelty to that

quit being a stupid fucking disingenuous fucking NIGGER. the most popular pre disney, non movie media were the jedi knights and kotor video games. thats not to say non force users didnt get popular. but star wars is about force users, not the fucking peasants.

The idea that Star Wars has only ever been about Force users and that everything else is just "the peasants" is revisionist nonsense. You sound like a zoomer chud who watches star wars theory religiously. Yes, Jedi Knight and KOTOR were popular, but there were decades of beloved material focused on non–Force users.

Let’s start with the X-Wing series, both the video games and the novels. Hugely popular in the '90s and 2000s, they focused almost entirely on pilots like Wedge Antilles and Rogue Squadron. No lightsabers, no mysticism, just raw space combat, strategy, and camaraderie. Then there’s Republic Commando, one of the most critically acclaimed Star Wars games pre-Disney, which focused on clone troopers in gritty, boots-on-the-ground warfare. No Jedi anywhere. The Thrawn Trilogy (arguably the most important EU work ever) is driven by military strategy, politics, and character drama, with the Jedi stuff mostly in the background.

Prior to any video games or EU, Boba Fett and Han Solo were massive fan favorites, and neither had any connection to the Force. The popularity of smugglers, bounty hunters, and rogues is baked into the DNA of the franchise.

For me, it was the Tie Fighter video game. Made the Empire so much cooler.

Three of the best books were Tales of the Bounty Hunters and Tales from Jabba's Palace as well as Tales from Mos Eisely Cantina. Just weird aliens and people doing shady stuff in the Star Wars universe.
Hell my favourite Star Wars comics are the Jabba the Hutt - The Art of the Deal ones.

Rogue One comes out

Everyone tries to convince me it was actually really good for years and I'm wrong for thinking it was pretty bland

Andor S1 comes out

Watch it and think it kind of sucks

Everyone tries to convince me it's actually the best piece of Star Wars media ever

Andor S2 comes out

Everyone once again tries to convince me it's the best piece of Star Wars media ever, but this time they're 100% convinced this show is actually so good Star Wars doesn't deserve to be part of it

I think it's shit

duality and grittiness

You were always right, anon. It's all shit, and people are just braindead cattle.