I just watched this and it's still jarring to me how americans act like 9/11 cam out of nowhere. Bin Laden literally explained why and in retaliation to what he orchestrated this. Then you have all kinds of amerigolems acting like they're tough shit because they bombed some people halfway around the world, in a war, which they've lost. It's all so incredibly cringe, especially when they start crying crocodile tears about the couple thousand of people that died during 9/11, meanwhile you don't hear shit about the 1.5 million people who died in Iraq and Afghanistan, two countries who had ZERO to do with 9/11. It's incredible how they keep pumping stuff out like this that's sure to make people hate the US even more.
I just watched this and it's still jarring to me how americans act like 9/11 cam out of nowhere...
Cry more, fag.
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
Thanks for the lukewarm take straight out of 2011, OP
1.5 million people who died in Iraq and Afghanistan
Keep seeing this number get thrown around
Look it up
Literally came from some random survey from the UK
That’s because Americans are uninformed, lazy retards. You can still find people today who regurgitate state propaganda like “they hate our freedom” or “muh WMD’s.” In fact they pride themselves on their ignorance like this person
I was told they hate our freedom. As Bush said
Freedom has been attacked. And freedom will be defended.
americans are the most powerful race
Biggest psyop in american history.
ALALALALALA
If any country did the complete and total betrayal that the US did to Afghanistan to the US, the US would nuke them into the ground. Was the USS Cole, the 1993 WTC bombing, and the Bimyan Buddhas not enough warning? You used the Taliban and the people of Afghanistan to win against communism and promised them everything if they helped you, then dropped them like a sack of shit when they weren't needed.
Murder someone's family and friends.
"Watch my video essay on why they deserved it."
Last words at execution, "But why didn't you watch my essay-ACK!"
Bush was actually right about this in hindsight. The modern Taliban very much does hate the modern concepts of freedom because they're secular, small l liberal ideals incompatible with their theocracy which explicitly aims to live like it is the 8th century. They fucking banned chess. They don't want freedom. They want to live life as Qurans on legs.
My gf cried when the got him
Nigga the Taliban didn't even exist during the Soviet Afghan war and the people who would later create the Taliban were mostly supported by Pakistan
What about the dancing Israelis? What about the Project for the New American Century? What about Netanyahu saying America needs to invade Iraq in 90s?
I've seen this glowie shill line before, but nobody buys it lol. The Muhjahadeen became the Taliban, the ISI has always answered to the CIA, and our government is run by organized criminals and terrorists.
promised them everything
Those promises being
The same promises we've made to Ukraine that we'll go back on lol
Actually giving them help to feed their people and give them infrastructure. Again, the Bamiyan Buddhas. They explained that they wanted food and wanted to send a "fuck you" message because they cared more about preserving history than helping people. They literally told you what they wanted. They limited casualties as much as they could to get attention. The US ignored them repeatedly.
Why couldn't the US treat the middle east decently? Is it because of the christianity?
shut up nerd and speak american for once LOLOLOL
Except you know, the Taliban had ZERO to do with 9/11, neither did Saddam. That's why Iraq got btfoed so quickly because they never expected for America to attack them, they basically got sucker punched. None of the attackers on 9/11 were from Iraq or Afghanistan, zero. Almost all of them were Saudi's. They literally started bombing the shit out of innocent people for no reason at all. They killed a million people over there without any remorse, tortured and held people without any charges for decades in Guantanamo, some of which turned out to be just innocent taxi drivers at the wrong place at the wrong time.
It's because chaos and violence are good for business when you're a war profiteer.
a couple of dirt farming goat herders fucked the americans so hard they're still not over it
pretty funny tBh
oil and protecting israel. simple as
Okay OP what are your thoughts on Kohbar Towers bombing?
It's not just about oil. It's also about minerals.
Lazy? We will beat you at anything except for gay shit like paid maternity leave or healthcare
gen z babby learns about recent history
Yeah, we have to give Israel free jets so they can have those things.
We have no proof they killed him. They "dumped his body at sea."
They definitely killed him. They had to dump his body at sea because one of the psychotic hired killers lost his cool and shot Osama in the face 30 times after they had already killed him.
the 1.5 million people who died in Iraq and Afghanistan
lmao eat shit. the overwhelming majority of those casualties were committed by the animals living there retard.
drone strike kills 3 militants in a house with 7 unarmed civilians
OMG WOW AMERICA BAD
Shi'ites detonate a truck bomb in Sunni neighborhood, 83 dead 117 wounded
silence
Sunni suicide bombers blow up a Shi'ite mosque, 48 dead 93 wounded
silence
There is no CREDIBLE list of casualties for either Iraq or Afghanistan that lists the USA as responsible for more than 10% (if that) of civilian casualties.
You know, Iran used to be a pro-american country before the islamic revolution, just like the post-war Japan.
The way the US treated the post-war Japan has been praised by the majority of notable post-war Japanese thinkers.
If the US could treat Iran in the same way the US did to Japan, probably Iran is still a pro-US country and it would have been a huge benefit for the US.
I don't really know why they couldn't and I don't think it's just because of Israel.
invade country
dismantle military
former military becomes insurgency
chaos ensues
make tons of money
all according to plan
This. I followed a daily death toll website during the wars and it really felt like 99% of it was just terrorist attack after terrorist attack killing each other. And I'm good with numbers if it was glaringly obvious that the US Military was killing tons of civilians I wouldn't have missed it.
Iran wasn't a "pro-US country" it had a pro-empire puppet dictator that "we"(the British and American governments / their rich owners) installed after overthrowing their highly popular democratically elected leader. We created the conditions for an Islamist revolution by destroying Iran's democracy.
The Muhjahadeen became the Taliban
Mujahedeen was a umbrella term for anyone fighting the Soviets and encompassed various groups and militias. There was no unified Mujahedeen front and most there were alliances between the groups. Same shit happened in Russia, you had various different communist groups before the Bolsheviks absorbed/purged them.
Yes, and we supplied them with money and weapons to fight the Soviets, who we had supplied with money and weapons to fight the Nazis, who we supplied with money and weapons to fight the Soviets.
Whataboutism. And normal people agree that it's better to let 5 criminals run free than it is to execute one innocent man.
ZOGbots aren't normal people. They're mentally ill freaks.
i'm genuinely illiterate and try to keep out of foreign policy stuff but was the pro-empire puppet dictator from when Iran seemed liberal? Was the democractically elected leader when they went back to being weird religions freaks again? or it the other way around? or neither
And normal people agree that it's better to let 5 criminals run free than it is to execute one innocent man.
Not anymore. Due process is gay.
Iran's culture was highly liberal and secular under Mosaddegh, but he wanted to nationalize the oil reserves for the good of the Iranian people, so we replaced him with a dictator. Iranian culture remain largely liberal and secular, but the Iranian people didn't like being ruled over by foreigners operating through a cutout administration, so they revolted. They thought they were making the smart move by putting the clergy in charge of the government so it would be led by moral, spiritually minded men, but it obviously devolved into an Islamist Sharia law state.
That's because a lot of those reports include "indirect deaths" I.e. disease, starvation etc.
ah yeah that's pretty fucked up. is there a steelman of the american POV on that
The same people that overthrew the Shah also tried to kill Mosaddegh
I mean it was probably possible for them to do it more mildly in a more respetable way but they didn't. They let the puppet dictator oppress Irannians who opposing him instead. Not everything he did was hated by Irannian people, some were succeeding pretty well. So I assume, if the US cared more about Iranian people and made Pahlavi look more humble from time to time, the revolution could be prevented.
The revolution could have been prevented by not funding a coup in the name of oil profits
The US formally acknowledged what they did in 2013 I believe. They admitted they conspired with the UK to overthrow the democratically elected government because they wanted Iran's oil. You know, the US always says that people hate their guts, but not why, very curious. Do you really think that people on the other side of the planet hate the US for no reason? They just woke up one day and started hating the west? There's always a good reason for it.
dey hate us 4 are freedoms!