Droid edition
Previously on /andor/:
/andor/
bix nood
On program edition
Blandor:
4m40s scene. Cassian dumps a bunch of exposition about the Death Star that we already know and won't pay off in this show's narrative. They argue for 2 minutes about Luthen's trustworthiness. Bail Organa monologues about all the reasons Luthen is untrustworthy.
Nothing of strong narrative interest or importance is happening in this scene! The dialogue isn't particularly scintillating, and the character dynamics have to do with issues we've litigated a gazillion times already. Why are we burning time like this in the last episode?
The Phantom Menace:
3m30s scene. We establish the slave transmitters, the lack of Republic presence, explain podracing, Jedi reflexes, Qui-Gon reveals he's a Jedi, his death is foreshadowed, Anakin reveals his dream to be a Jedi, Qui-Gon's suspicions become apparent, and we set up the gambling plan.
It is very difficult to do all this exposition and character development in a 3m30s scene in a way that seems natural and can also hold an audience's interest. Lucas is an extremely skilled screenwriter in this regard. He knows exactly what he intends to do in every scene. People focus a lot on what they perceive to be clunky dialogue and miss how superhumanly keyed in Lucas has to be on the extremely complex mix of themes, character, plot, and exposition that has to happen at a very rapid pace in almost every scene. I think the cleverest trick in this scene is the way we transition from the talk about slave transmitters and anti-slavery laws directly to podracing--Anakin is visibly embarrassed by the slave talk and decides to change the subject to something more flattering.
Best girl confirmed.
no feet shown
Dedra's end was 100% satisfying and deserving.
Surely, Luthen, of all people, would be serious about not being taken alive, instead of having to rely on conveniently placed daggers that can't even kill you fast enough. So that whole thing was very silly.
What's funny is that Stellan was in the movie with the tooth crown poison moment.
we kinda got a glimpse when krennic was interrogating dedra
They did let her still have a hair tie so she could try and fail to commit sudoku over and over
Yeah it was definitely contrived, a bit of a shame, but I welcome the resulting storylines nonetheless.
hurriedly given main character status in final episodes
immediately has nervous breakdown because can't find car keys to get off planet
has to be rescued
meh
Diego Luna looks exactly the same now as he did in Rogue 1
Felicity Jones look much older than she did in Rogue 1 despite being younger than Diego Luna
Rogue One feels more like A New Hope than Andor
They both survived. Will they, you know, finally connect?
why even bother hanging yourself
jump onto the hot floor
Lucas is an efficient filmmaker and has tact, respect for the audience. To compare blandor to any of his Star Wars movies is an insult to the latter
The whole thing was retarded and contrived.
I thought he'd blow up the museum but I guess he has too much respect for the artifacts he collected
fucking masterful television. praise gilroy.
Partagaz can kill himself effectively but Luthen can't? whatever, Gilroy.
Indeed, very much so. The fact that goycattle have the audacity to pretend like fad of the month Disney+ slop is in any way comparable, let alone better, is insulting to common sense, intelligence, taste and artistry.
I mean they'll probably execute her as an act of petty revenge when the rebels succeed in blowing up the Death Star.
I blame the music.
What the fuck happened to Andor's music, anyway? Got the Terminator 2 downgrade. ZOOMERS LIKE SYNTHS NOW. THEY'RE FINE AGAIN.
This fucker is the one who put Dedra in that shit hole isn't he? Ungrateful lil bastard.
K is immune to blaster fire in Andor but not in Rogue One
the failed suicide gave us a whole based Kleya sequence
How exactly did each of the members on that Rebel Council get their position? Who appointed them - themselves / each other? Like I can understand Draven being a general and Raddus being a admiral could be considered effectively warlords who brought stuff with them, but what about the rest? Mon symbolic because she gave a speech? I do not see how she is still bringing funds now. Bail may be providing stuff, but exactly how much? What about the guy with the beard and the black lady who were both being bitchy? With this leadership I am not convinced I would want to throw in with them.
One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad." The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write.
Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this.
And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a *cinematic* basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way.
So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.
Andor is splendid, high brow, and masterful prestige drama.
Why did Bix go back to the rape planet?
Tivik tells Andor about the Death Star like 2 minutes into Rogue One, so the whole thing was a waste of time?
Should one more season of just Dedra working in there until a bit after the battle of endor, she even makes parts for the second death star.
New Republic takes control of the facility, most people get released.
But not her.
synths aren't Star Wars. Jazz and now apparently house music are though.
I think he was too busy being used as a shield for k2so to do any retaliation towards Dedra
Many Star Wars fans didn't know lying was bad before this episode.
Pretty much. It's all pointless filler that will be forgotten in less than a month.
based midwit
Yes, they will connect through ass-to-ass.
for me the shitty plotting made the last three episodes disappointing.
Kleya's hospital infilitration was ridiculous too.
the Ghorman stuff felt grounded.
To flick her bean on the very same spot she murder the rapist who does not rape her.
So Lonni knew about the Death Star because he hacked into Dedra’s monitor, who coincidentally had been building a scrapbook of evidence that led to her discovery of the Death Star?
Also, I feel like less people would find out about the Death Star if it was called “Economic Refurbishment Initiative” or something.
Bix is so sexy in that movie Hit Man
checc'd
not reading all of that
It's pretty clear from the Rogue One dialog that Anders was already onto it, he just wanted to get more details without giving anything up.
yeah that was dumb, you'd think the empire would crack down harder after their last census team got blown up
it's all for the wheatfield visual
YOU THINK I'M CRAZY?
YES, I AM
4CHANNEL IS NOT FOR THE SANE
WHERE ARE YOU?
YOU'RE HERE, YOU'RE NOT WITH Anon Babble YOU'RE RIGHT HERE IN /ANDOR/, AND YOU'RE READY TO SHITPOST
WE'RE THE ANONYMOUS KID, WE'RE THE FUEL
WE'RE THE THING THAT EXPLODES WHEN THERE'S TOO MUCH CANCER IN THE AIR
THAT'S FREEDOM CALLING, LET IT RUN WILD
It's meant to confirm already existing intelligence. Sometimes, you can't just act on one thread. But if multiple threads are telling you similar things, then it gets corroborated. Plus, Andor didnt know the weapon was a planet killer until he got the info at the beginning of rogue one.
The prequel is tawdy, mawkish, and against tradition.
we had rebel activity on this planet a few years ago
That's every planet anon
With all this 10-bit HDR colour stuff maybe someone will boost the colours of Andor.
Clearly a fair bit of work went into the sets, costumes, CGI, etc. It isn't as visually stunning as The Phantom Menace but for television rather than a film, it's pretty damn good. Think Star Trek not Lawrence of Arabia.
Yeah yeah it's all deliberate, but this includes things like basic camera movements, different angles, shit we all take for granted.
Dedra's bf which she actually loved died on Ghoram. I won't be surprised if she wanted to know the real reason why he had to die thus her digging around.
Wish we'd seen more of him.
I guess so
I'm glad Kleya made it but I still feel bad for her
kek I have forgotten so much about this show.
yeah I thought she was a goner
OMG GUYS
EXPLOSION WENT OFF
MOVE IT MOVE IT
LETS ALL RUN AWAY FROM THIS SUPER IMPORTANT THING WE'VE BEEN GUARDING FOR THE LAST HOURS
AND LETS JUST LET THIS RANDOM NURSE WALK INTO A RESTRICTED AREA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED AS COMPLETELY OFF-LIMITS TO ANYONE BUT EMPIRE, WE'LL JUST WALK PAST HER, LOLZ
You know, NPCs in Skyrim are literally smarter than characters in Andor. If you distract a guard, but then walk into them while they go to inspect the distraction, they will attack you.
based droid
Krennic protected Lagret but not Partagaz? Partagaz is smarter than Lagret so why protect the dumb one?
Makes me wonder what that scrapped horror episode about one of these droids would have been like.
Partagaz was under more heat
Also, I feel like less people would find out about the Death Star if it was called “Economic Refurbishment Initiative” or something.
The project's codename was Stardust, it was mentioned in Rogue One.
I couldn't help but laugh seeing that spook's lifeless body being shot up
Partagaz was too high profile. High enough for the Emperor to personally know about him.
where do they shit?
Dumb speedwatcher.
It's pretty hard to blame Lagret for things other Supervisors did
And it's impossible to shift blame away from Partagaz for what his immediate underlings did
remember in S1-E3 when Luthen sets the charges to kill the corpos chasing them, and he's all like "lesson one: make your exit on the way in"?
Was nobody else expecting Andor to kill a bunch of the troopers in the appartment complex with some similar trap?
Rival to Krennic
The in-universe/diegetic/whatever music, you can argue about, sure. But the incidental music can be WHATEVER it wants.
Rogue One sounded like John Williams on autopilot, fanservicey in a bad way. Dark Forces (the PC game) had this neat sound engine where it would segue from one Star Wars tune to the next depending on what's happening: it was synthesized MIDI files rather than recordings, so they could do this. Rogue One was a human composer doing it.
For original music, Andor S1 > S2. Doesn't have to be full-on synthpop or untz untz techno. 70s style krautrock would fit perfectly.
She couldn't let go of Axis. So everything that came through she was scavenging. Jedha, Scariff, Ghorman, Eadu, Galen Erso. She was ravenous for anything that would get her closer to Luthen and since she had knowledge of the Death Star project then any data she had from that she kept, which is what Lonni found as he was trying to find information about when the raid on Luthen would be after he heard about it from his colleage.
The whole apartment and the shop should have been rigged with emergency boom boom.
a picture does speak a thousand words. how can people watch disney wars crap is beyond me. it's all greyish sludge and dull backgrounds. star wars in name only
Jedi Survivor has the best non-Williams Star Wars score. Gordy Haab is the goat and I'm surprised they haven't hired him to do the shows yet.
Vader dubstep theme
The music in Kenobi was a fucking embarrassment.
this episode is as good a some andor episodes and it shouldnt be ignored
I think Luthen actually liked all those artifacts in his shop and wouldn't want to blow it up
It's no Jedi Rocks
nah that'd be a stupid asspull. "heh, we anticipated you with our tricky traps."
Kleya implies there's some other way out which makes sense, might have even preferred that to the robot just clearing a path tbqh.
being a writer is hard. how the fuck do you strike a balance between something that feels satisfying WITHOUT over-explaining it, spending ages setting it up? while also avoiding ass pulls and deus ex machina nonsense?
Great 3D renders you've got there, George
very insightful anon
KINO:
Kleya and luthen scenes
Kleya in the hospital
Dedra's underling getting shot
Cassian's rescue mission
Partagaz an-hero
small nod to the Force with the healer and Cassian at the end
Dedra getting shafted
an enjoyable end to the show
it's a shame it was so cut short compared to what it could have been, and unlikely we'll get anything as good in this franchise again
cheers anons
DROID IS IMMUNE TO BLASTER BOLTS IN ANDOR BUT NOT IN ROGUE ONE
They need to make a short novel about that one.
What do you think of Luthen's backstory?
Some of Bad Batch is alright. It's just the Filoni Saturday morning cartoon stuff I can't stand.
crosshair
well duh
easy now, shillary
makes sense
I agree. The like 4 crossbar focused episodes were the pinnacle of animated star wars. It's a shame that 90% of the series was just pointless "run away from a new monster/environmental disaster" filler. The series had such potential and they squandered it.
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nothing special, but I liked it
Felt kind of irrelevant by that point desu
Yep. All Disney Star Wars is ugly, lifeless, soulless slop, that has nothing in common with the actual Star Wars by George Lucas. They simply don't get it.
Luthen's backstory is retarded
was in the Imperial Army
Rael is just Lear spelled backwards
no one at ISB thought it'd be prudent to pull up the old army files on a soldier who conveniently defected at the same time a prominent antique shop opened in Coruscant
Should have just been a Separatist or a Coruscant socialite
Will give it a listen. I remember the games just started using MP3s of the John WIlliams music at one point. it's great but fucking hell every space battle
duh-duh. duh-duh duuuh duuh duh...
STOP IT.
What did Lagret do? I mean, he must suck a mean dick because he got a call straight from Yularen back in Ep9 and he seemed to be in the same position a year later. Either way, the events in this arc had nothing to do with him. "Not Jake Gyllenhall" fucked up by letting Dedra take over his op, Partagaz fucked up by suggesting they do the infection angle and then not rerouting the units when they found a location for Kleya. Lagret wasnt involved in any of that.
So this went no where?
I'm glad he was kind of a nobody, was worried they'd make him a secret Jedi or some filoni-tier shit
Luthen was a soldier who hated war but ended up being totally fine blowing up bridges with civilians on it in front of a child
A little subtle, kind of kino. Didn't need to be him being a Jedi or something.
*crosshair
Why aren't there any aliens in this show?
he's probably dead
That's the point. The Empire has literally sucked all the colour out of the place, replacing it all with bare whites and greys. The Senate's corridors used to be adorned in shades of red and bronze, and now it's just a stark white facility that barely looks any different from an Imperial military base.
I would like to see more of it But with the actor having a stroke, maybe not so much.
the water is somewhere
Valid.
Didn't detract from him, which is always a worry.
He stayed ON PROGRAM
cass was looking for more information. the "planet killer" line was new to him.
oh shit damn
The only good parts were Crosshair's scenes and Dr. Hemlock's Tantiss.
I'm glad it got just two seasons, if it got more I would assure you Filoni and his Rebels bullshit would have been shoved in there to the point Andor would be sidelined.
He stayed behind and finished building the Death Star.
Seems pretty obvious from the subtext and from myself having quite a bit of media literacy.
He can't swim, anon.
if bad batch had a more coherent focus on a seasonal story (like season 3), I'd argue it's the perfect expected quality of a star wars show
I don't expect andor levels of quality, but I want good quality regardless
yeah, back to slop it is :(
AWWWWW
Reminds me of Wall-E
seen a couple of these niggas when rylanz was dressing down cass
and then again at the isb safehouse raid
Nolan is a complete non-character, one dimensional archetype with no motivations, a plot device to facilitate Crosshair's desertion. The entire premise of the episode (and the show) is built on the premise of Empire's irrational, illogical hatred for the clones - literally programmed perfect soldiers, most of whom are entirely willing to fight for you. It was just a worse Umbara. Everything in this episode had already been studied and established. It did not really say anything new. In fact, the entire message of this episode, clones being expendable, used, forgotten, discarded after their sacrifice, replaced - all of it was already succinctly shown in the final shots of Clone Wars.
This episode was better than the rest of Bad Batch, which was just retarded kiddy filler. But that's not saying much. It was a bad show.
There will never be any other good Star Wars media
im glad i was here for it
Glad it was not him being a Jedi - I wonder if back in S1 that was the plan, but they changed it in response to people theorising that and the general backlash to it? In one of the previous threads an anon brought-up a point about how exactly does Luthen know so much about antiques. Did he always know, or at least have some significant foundation knowledge to build-on, or did he speed-learn that quickly? Not really sure I buy into the idea that he, seemingly a career NCO, would have such knowledge, but I buy even less into the idea he speed-learnt that without no foundational knowledge. I suppose it is all nebulous to what Luthen, or whatever his name may actually be, was doing pre-military.
kek
yeah, we know
you get mad about this show on every single board and cannot shut up about it
So I've finished re-watching rogue one now. Did they really have to put in that reddit fan service scene with Vader at the end?
filonislop til the end of time
dont remind me
Top 5 hotties in Andor
1) Dedra
2) Buttocks negress (you know the one)
3) Mothma's daughter
4) Mothma
5) Kleya
Nah, they showed that ayylmao from a different angle and its face looked different
Vader is the best part of the movie, zoomskie
why did he do it?
Where does Syrils mom fall on that list?
Andor canonically nutted inside of Bix Nood
Nice
kleya
kleya
kleya
kleya
kleya
oh really? just saw the horns & yelled at the tv
We could have done with more aliens desu.
Maybe at least one alien character at least. For some reason I thought this guy was going to get characterization in Rogue One, and then had hope for Andor, but nope.
That's the point. The Empire has literally sucked all the colour out of the place, replacing it all with bare whites and greys
take that copium BS out of here. you talk as if the OT or even Episode III didn't feature the empire. i'm talking about visual clarity and imagination, not color motifs.
The Senate's corridors used to be adorned in shades of red and bronze, and now it's just a stark white facility that barely looks any different from an Imperial military base.
more copium BS. the senate corridors in blandor look like kamino. in the prequels, they looked no different than an OT set
the movie is filled with SW imagery to jerk it to, including the two assholes from the cantina just walking by
I don't know enough about Star Wars lore so I feel like I was missing context. I would have been fine if he was a former Jedi. Not doing Jedi shit. Hell not even anything to do with the plot of the films: Obi-Wan tells Anakin "you will be expelled from the Jedi Order", right? So there ARE ex-Jedi, not just Order 66 survivors?
Luthen storms away from the Temple, goes to drown his sorrows in a bar. Bartender lady gets arrested for spy shit and who will look after her daughter now?! If they had to introduce Kleya (they didn't).
No young Kleya?
I always kinda figured that he had been with Republic Intelligence during the war, and maybe had worked directly with the Jedi. Perhaps he already saw that the Republic was going in a bad direction, but served it regardless in the hope that it would eventually win out and back away from the abyss of authoritarianism. Order 66 goes down, the Empire is declared, and he knows from that very moment that this cannot stand unopposed.
"I wake up every morning to an equation I wrote fifteen years ago"
At the time he said that, it was pretty much fifteen years to the day since the Empire's establishment. He was in it for the long haul.
Where would it go? The point of the scene is the tragedy. Andor and Melshi barely managed to escape the planet; reasonably plenty of those that did escape the prison got caught or killed. Beyond us liking the character and the memes, after the initial reaction anons would be calling-out him showing back up.
1. Tomato
2. Mothma
3. Kleya
4. Dedra
5. Niya
is my gut reaction
I actually don't know about 2-5, but Tomato clears.
Bad Batch has some fucking insane shifts in quality
Crosshair episodes are certified kino up there with the best star wars has to offer, then you have okay generic action episodes and then you have god awful fucking filler trash.
We now have shows, videogames, movies. Animated, live action about the 20 year period between Ep3 and Ep4 that deal with all the major characters and the OCs that aren't the main three.
They can't possibly keep milking this time period, right? I mean, I feel like at this point everything from the birth of the rebellion and the major players has been explored. They have Ahsoka and Mandalorian to cover that immediate post-RotJ timeline before the Sequel Trilogy. They fucked up their "High Republic" with The Acolyte. What even is there now that they could focus on or what Gilroy could work on?
Sex with Cinta!
He helped everyone escape, knowing that he himself wouldn't be able to. It's self-sacrifice for a greater cause. Which is a running theme throughout the series
they shoved them all in towards the end. a bunch of them even talk, in that flappy Admiral Ackbar kind of way.
was better when they were in the background. "oh yeah, this is Star Wars, still."
there weren't REALLY that many in Star Wars originally. yeah budget or whatever, but most of the Galaxy is human. the cantina is specifically a freaky melting pot. calling Chewbacca names isn't being space-racist, he's a monster, not a person.
Please calm down, Vel.
be thankful you didn't get any foreskin aliens from disney wars
Banal and mundane. Like most of the show. You won't get me to believe that a random grunt sergeant becomes sophisticated historian artifact collector spy master. There is no connection between the two. And the Empire non stop rolling with genocides since day one is dumb. "The Empire choking us so slowly, we're starting not to notice." Yeah, right. You mean literally wiping out entire cities with such cruelty, that you cry "MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP".
Live action Saw was wasted in andor/ro. He needed to blow something up
did he never look out the windows and think, "oh fuck, water. my one weakness"?
foreskin aliens
LMAO best description ever
Yeah I really hoped we'd see the Partisans in action
They knew what kind of sickos were out there
“Andy dropped the mic, man,” Gilroy explained. “What am I going to do that’s going to be better than what we did? All it does is minimize that moment. I knew a lot of people were talking about whether we had a way of [bringing him back]. But I didn’t want to have that sort of coincidental environment.”
He played a completely broken man with everything collapsing around him really well.
why does krennic act like a fruity theater man ?
yeah I thought she was a goner
It looked pretty dire when she insisted on telling Cassian everything. Good way to build suspense.
a random grunt sergeant becomes sophisticated historian artifact collector spy master.
i have bluffed my way into stupid shit. and i am not smart. i used to look after rich people's dogs. sometimes this meant i had the keys to basically-a-mansion for a week or two.
i don't even know how to look after dogs, the one thing i SHOULD have had some kind of knowledge/skillset for (i did it anons don't worry).
1-6 would've benefited from having more saw
10-12 the same, cut the entire hospital shit
You would too if you had a great cape like he does.
Like Alien probably, would gladly watch that.
So what's up with Sagrona man?
People live the Imperial Era of Star Wars, our heroes were still heroes who actually accomplished their goals and the villains are still threatening and there's still a hope that the galaxy would be a better place when the Rebel Alliance won.
JJ Abrams and Rian fucked it all up with TFA and TLJ, the New Republic should have been young and inexperienced and been made to deal with a crisis it initially wasn't prepared for, yes, but they shouldn't have been made incompetent and then destroyed in that short amount of time and the Empire should have been broken into several disjointed Remnants and not have become the retarded First Order.
dumbass
i don't read it as homosex, more of a Jeremy Clarkson type guy. "oh come off it, you daft sod."
Dedra being in prison means she'll live to see the fall of the empire and that Luthen won in the end
Realistically, wouldn't he instantly learn how to swim as soon as his skin touched the water?
Parents teach their kids to swim by throwing them into the water and letting them figure it out.
yeah so?
Lonni: “Hey Partagaz, I’ve been feeding false information to a high-level Rebel cell leader. I don’t want to go see him again because I think he may neutralize me the next time we meet.”
Partagaz: “Thanks Lonni. Tell me where you usually meet and I’ll send a stormtrooper unit to arrest him. You’ll be well rewarded for cultivating such a high-level asset.”
Lonni: “Thank you, my mentor. Also, this Rebel leader may be under the delusion that I’m working for him but that’s only because I did my job so well.”
Why didn’t Lonni do this?
In case you hadn't noticed, the Empire in ROTS had been established for all of a fucking day. It takes a bit longer than that to redecorate. And the OT established quite quickly that the Imperial aesthetic was quite monochromatic and straight-lined, so I don't know what the fuck you're on about.
It's over
Insecurity leading to overcompensating. He is trying to project an image of importance and being in control.
Damn Krennic was straight up menacing in his scene.
Was expectind that honestly, but this being a residential building would be to radical for the good guys. Still, it was stupid of them not to leave the other guy as a lookout.
all roads lead to the sequels
Filoni
nice numbers but he didn't do shit beside episode 1
Why did Luthen kill Lonnie?
The best Aliens in Andor imo
should've had them come back
Because he's an asshole
Lonni and Kleya were fucking (they were flirting at the party). The only reason Luthen even rescued Kleya was to fuck her but she never put out, so he lashed out.
The wife and child that Lonni kept referring to was Kleya.
none of this matters because palpatine just had a contingency plan to somehow return with a fleet of star destroyers with death star lasers
good, thats one less loose end
Big ass face tumor
Nigger fatigue
Too old
Too old
Too old
Sergeant Lear
Lear
Rael reversed
GILROY
Why did Luthen kill Lonnie?
To make sure he couldn't get caught. It was a pointless murder since Luthen was actually much closer to being caught than Lonnie at that point, though. Definitely Luthen's most evil action.
I'd like to see more shows featuring Cassian and/or Luthen
Luthen is the juxtapose of Cyril.
Cyril does things he thinks are for good for the evil Empire.
Luthen does things he knows is immoral for the sake of good.
man you are dense. nobody is talking about that. the empire in ROTS looks like the OT. and all of that was shot with clarity and visual imagination. it wasn't a grey smudge of dullness
Actually, I think you're right.
Those were great.
Poor. He should've been a staff captain.
i love space mexicans
more foreskin aliens. disgusting
Cassian and K2 being bros could've been explored more but I guess that's just going to go to the comics
If anything, she'll also see the destruction of The New Republic, after seeing it become the stagnant pit it had been when it was the Old Republic, and the rise of the First Order.
You’ll be well rewarded for cultivating such a high-level asset.”
what was Dedra's reward?
Disney Wars absolutely refuses to into colorful alien designs
they had years of prep time and >100 million (w/e) to spend on 2.5 hours of movie
Andor is like 24 hours of movie
Skeleton Crew had some fun aliens
She'll probably get offed by someone in the first week, there is no way the other inmates won't figure out she was an imperial officer.
terrorist bombing? wow that's crazy
so anyway can you get my cousin a job in the ISB?
I've got a bad feeling about this
they had years of prep time and
don't choke yourself while inhaling all that copium
Start making stuff during the period from IV-VI i guess, side stories about different rebel soldiers/pilots fighting the war, more action-heavy sequences with actual rebel forces instead of rag-tag shit.
It's just that they fucked themselves with how bad the ST era is and nobody wants to do anything with it.
WHY DO THEY SPEAK WITH A BRITISH ACCENT
why didn't anyone in andor use a lightsaber helicopter
Mon immediately after winning the Star Wars or whatever goes home and has sweaty sex with her husband by riding him.
no emperor scene
no saw kino
just kill me
How often do you think the emperor has to cancel his meetings because people kill themselves first
Why is Boba Fett allowed to be from New Zealand but Ben Mendelsohn can't have an Australian accent
I like K2
He is a pretty based droid
andor reincarnates as revan in a new movie that takes place in 1000 aby
He literally used to kill people?
He never has to cancel. Everything happens exactly as he has forseen
There is a shot of Kleya in the apartment fully stretched out while standing on something when she was trying to reach something hidden near the ceiling. Her body is absolute GOD MODE.
Does somebody have a screencap of this?
4d chess ruthless spymaster
kino character, almost a 10/10 slightly ruined by the contrived way he was captured
That makes him beyond based
no emperor scene
Ian Mcdirmiad said he's too old to do it anymore.
He was in a parade the Emperor attended
exactly, a schedule for a meeting is universally known as "the emperor is commanding you to commit suicide"
Ian Mcdirmiad said he's too old to “dew it”anymore.
everything's perfectly alright now... we're all fine here now thank you. How are you?
do it yourself dork
i miss this nigga like you wouldn't believe
What was I supposed to make of the way he delivered that line?
did he even have a character, or was he just a guy who looked cool
I wanted to watch the show just for Ray Stevenson, but since he's dead now, I guess there's no point
the emperor watched a parade that k2 marched in
He’s still in the show. They didn’t CGI him out when he died.
he should have been a secret jedi that trained with ahsoka
show up to meeting
Emperor isn't actually there
"guess i dont have to kill myself then"
Gen Z trying to cancel K2?
He's basically being bad to stop the (not)Vong from invading the galaxy. They went right back to just being as bad as most of Legends
him and his qt sidekick were the only good part of that mess. just go back and watch their scenes.
Bitch deserved it.
Honestly I actually like the idea of Palpatine going completely unseen and unheard. You can sense the sheer effect that just invoking his name has on people. That motherfucker is scary as hell and everyone knows it.
And he doesn't even show up to work anymore, busying himself with arcane bullshit that like three people in the whole galaxy knows about. His Empire is designed to operate without his direct intervention, while also being set up to collapse into a shitstorm of a succession crisis should he die before he can achieve his coveted immortality.
and he should have a saber copter
her episode is a peak andor
Why didn’t andor just blast palpy
How is she not Chinese?
I liked it. Showed us how deep down he's always been driven by empathy and what really pushed him to action is being able to help someone rather than vengeance. Him being a nobody that forged himself and his "daughter" into the foundation bricks of the rebellion plus Andor similarly being a nobody the force worked through was the kind of hope theming that the TLJ got right.
yeah it is cool and it fits but damn i wanted to see him
i've seen ahsoka's tits and pussy lips
all of this just so the sequels can happen
God fucking dammit
Human genome is a bit more complicated than that.
It's not like Chinese, Africans, and White people sprouted from the ground and everything else is a mix of them.
she's probably a hapa of some sort
so?
Some people had interesting ideas for a scene where Dedra is finally in his presence and realizes all of the empire is literally in service to a fucked-up cult who revels in blood sacrifice and has magic powers. Would’ve been interesting to see her break down from that.
compromised. sleeping with the enemy.
anon gets fooled by big words
he's vague and mysterious but terribly written so, so he just goes on and uses big words to fool you into thinking he's well written
I think this is great, and better even.
But I would've been pleased by getting fan service of the emperor in the imperial palace(formerly jedi temple), but that kind of scene wouldn't really have served anything.
If we had gotten 5 seasons of this, then maybe there'd have been room for something like that.
Full white apparently, just a Romanian grandparent or parent in there somewhere.
SYSTEMS FAILING MASTEEERRR
Coom slop
Grow up
used to
He kills people almost every time he's on-screen.
If you had your mind wiped, Eternal Sunshine style, and you USED TO be a serial killer, now only use your killing powers for good, you're a stand-up human being in my view.
lets mon mothma escape
outlives all of his rivals
is the Emperor biased towards bald people? does the lack of hair give him additional energy reserves? how does he do it?
Max Rebo regarded Yowza as irksome and did not like how he seemed to hog the spotlight. Yowza was also known to have his own compositions that he liked to introduce in spite of the band's prepared material, which Rebo also did not appreciate.
I'm going out with a bang
The problem is that he would never be able to pull that off.
If he was able to contact a high-level rebel leader, the first question would be how and when the contact was made, how long he has been in contact, and why he didn't report anything about it until now.
Supervisors are supposed to report such situations the moment they arise, the fact he didn't do so before would have immediately made him suspect.
I gave up after the third episode of the dude still being in jail. What a fucking boring show. I doubt this season is any better.
British accent is an "Imperial Accent", all the Imps in SWTOR have bong accents too
moment to collect his thoughts
literally blows his thoughts all over the room
I don't think Luthen is THAT bad
I thought the ship was going to blow up as they took him away.
They should just ditch the Sequel Trilogy at this point. Although, Filoni already ruined Thrawn and his OC bullshit is running rampant post-RotJ. They could still do Imperial remnants but unless they scrap the ST, it'll always have that sour taste of "It all ends with Exegol and the Emperor". Their unwillingness to recast the main three also means that we'll be getting Filoni's bullshit shoved up our asses from now on. I think that in all honesty now that Andor is done, I'm done with Star Wars unless they completely go off away from the 9 movies and everything relating to it in to the far future/past.
Fucking hell R1 is going to be such a downgrade when I watch it tonight, isn't it?
That is why Cassian was so ready to believe Jyn. Rogue one is so much better with this.
Based Lagret being a cockroach
I bet he'd somehow survive the war and disappear into the New Republics amnesty programme too.
who is the babby's father
Women age much less gracefully than men
from a planet where sight is considered a disability
Palpatine
idiot.
Best character of the show.
Forest Whitiker always give 100 fucking percent, wether its Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Species, Bloodsport, or Andor.
Lagrel: “I told them I’d bring you down”
stormtroopers are literally waiting on the same floor, behind the door (so on the same level)
Why didn’t he say, “I told them I’d bring you horizontally”, since he was taking Partagaz to stormtroopers who were on the same horizontal plane / on the same floor?
cockroach
fuck you mayne
That's how they handled officers at least. Grunts had no particular accent until Andor suddenly made them all "OI, YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT, M8?".
he was accounting for the height difference between them
I like the series but the fans need to admit season 2 was rushed and at times kinda badly written. These last few episodes were better. But I still felt nothing after all these deaths. Rogue one had the exact same problem. Storm troopers are also just not intimidating sadly. We need to move on from this era tired x wings and tie fighters.
credits roll for final episode
music eventually shifts into the main star wars movie theme towards the end
KINO
Rushed, but not badly written.
no Andor/K2 bro teamup show
Pretty sure he actually likes her(friend wise). But Dedra is such a cunt she just burns bridges. She was nice enough to help him find kleya atleast.
fuck that would have been an amazing scene, it could have mirrored Syrils awakening. She is evil, but she is nothing compared to Palpatine (the scene).
That’s what Andor was supposed to be until Gillroy ruined everything.
its because people with british accents are inherently evil so nobody feels bad when they all get killed off
fans need to admit season 2 was rushed
This general has pretty much been saying that since the second arc. Which is is part of a broader point the general has had that the largely pointless 1st arc was dragged-out, which just contributing to the rushing of things elsewhere.
I left the credits playing while i went to the bathroom and was pleasantly surprised ngl
in before K2 dresses up in a trench coat
The entire grain planet part was trash tier, S1 was far better than S2. S2 still had good parts, but Dedra being retarded with Luthen wasn't properly set up (we don't see her god crazy ahead of time over Syril's death or whatever else)
I rewatched Rogue One and it wasn't as bad as I remember. I don't know if I was just too harsh back then or this garbage season of Andor has just acclimated me to shitty pacing.
K2 murdering the fuck out of everyone was entertaining as fuck to watch
I feel like the 1st 6 episodes of season 2 could have been cut entirely and had little impact
This is the kinda shit I like about s craig zhaler. The violence is so gross and cringy it makes you not want to be in this universe. Most action in these movies looks fun.
still cant believe disney showed him using a person as a shield lol
Agree with 1-3. 4-6 you needed as setup for 7-9.
what? he's shit. i agree on whitaker usually giving 100% but in andor he's a waste of time
Yeah. I have no idea why that Scottish guy wasn't a look out. Or why they didn't find it stranger their coms were down.
t. not full of freedom nor the thing that ignites when there's too much friction in the air
I would say half of each of the first 6 episodes.
well at least it compensated for the borefest of the last 2 episodes desperately preparing to tie in with rogue one
Why would they not booby trap that place? Seems like spy school 101. Always have an exit.
You could just cut this season down to basically just Ghorman and the massacre and it would make for a decent movie with just a few added lines and scenes. The rest is throwaway.
It fits thematically. Partagaz was open-minded, encouraged his underlings to speak up and debate, and he failed. To be replaced by retarded yes-men who can only use fear. People like Partagaz keep governments from collapsing. He only failed because he misread the rebellion as terrorists and opportunists.
nu
Didn't really need to Tie Avenger/Yavin arc but I guess the action was to hope people would actually watch it
B2EMO
Honestly, I felt Luthen should've had his shop rigged to blow if he got caught. Actually felt out of character that he had to personally melt the comms console instead of flipping a "FEDS ARE HERE SCRUB EVERYTHING" switch that fried everything.
TIE Avenger arc could have done with one whole episode of Andor infiltrating the base in disguise as an Imperial officer of some kind. Then he'd escape but has to leave the engineer lady behind to take the fall.
he didnt swim so good
I kinda cringed when Cinta died and then we had that she was a warrior speech. Felt so out of place. Also what is with gay characters fucking then dying by gunshot.
I'm ISB
You need to huff more fuel, my boy
Why did luthen plan to bomb the hospital so that kleya could break in and mercy kill him, instead of just putting the explosives in his shop and killing himself and dedra?
Kinda annoyed that he wasn't Palpatine in disguise