/andor/

Andor has its good share of narrative flaws, but the baseline of its writing is so far above usual Star Wars material that you can't help but have a lesser opinion of the other shows

tfw poe is andor's son

I not really sure what I think about this scene. I sort of get what they were going for, but is just remined me about how the stuff from arc1 was not really need or meaningfully went anywhere. It just raises questions as well that there are no answers to and I do not think are that interesting to just speculate on.

its that gilroy is competent & doesn't treat star wars like a holy grail

gyattDAMN

nice gritty adult drama you have here.
shame it takes place in the same universe where things like this happen.

Blandor:
4m40s scene. Cassian dumps a bunch of exposition about the Death Star that we already know and won't pay off in this show's narrative. They argue for 2 minutes about Luthen's trustworthiness. Bail Organa monologues about all the reasons Luthen is untrustworthy.

Nothing of strong narrative interest or importance is happening in this scene! The dialogue isn't particularly scintillating, and the character dynamics have to do with issues we've litigated a gazillion times already. Why are we burning time like this in the last episode?

The Phantom Menace:
3m30s scene. We establish the slave transmitters, the lack of Republic presence, explain podracing, Jedi reflexes, Qui-Gon reveals he's a Jedi, his death is foreshadowed, Anakin reveals his dream to be a Jedi, Qui-Gon's suspicions become apparent, and we set up the gambling plan.

It is very difficult to do all this exposition and character development in a 3m30s scene in a way that seems natural and can also hold an audience's interest. Lucas is an extremely skilled screenwriter in this regard. He knows exactly what he intends to do in every scene. People focus a lot on what they perceive to be clunky dialogue and miss how superhumanly keyed in Lucas has to be on the extremely complex mix of themes, character, plot, and exposition that has to happen at a very rapid pace in almost every scene. I think the cleverest trick in this scene is the way we transition from the talk about slave transmitters and anti-slavery laws directly to podracing--Anakin is visibly embarrassed by the slave talk and decides to change the subject to something more flattering.

It felt weird having characters finally just talk about the Death Star without wrapping it up in codewords.

Just ignore the parts you don't like, done

One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad." The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write.

Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this.

And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a *cinematic* basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way.

So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.

I have never watched the Sequels. I was simply not excited to go out and see TFA, and then by the time TLJ by then huge numbers had turned against the TFA and TLJ got the reaction it got. I kinda feel like I have basically absorbed the Sequels just through osmosis, but is it worth me actually just getting around to watching them to experience how bad they are and have a laugh, or is it just a complete waste of time that I will not enjoy?

now that the show is over what do we do

Finally, Star Wars for adults

Is this post unironic?

Why even hide the existence of the death star at this point?

Consume other kino where it can be found.

We return to reddit now that our 4channel marketing campaign is officially over.

this is star wars

andor
a new hope
empire
return of the jedi

Naaah

How about you stop basing your life on generic blockbuster media?

Un tabe clear, da AOTC scene includes basic lines liken: "Mesa luv democracy. Mesa luv da Republic." Yet ebberyone can hear theesa lines in deir head! Dast proof of how well-constructed da scene is on a *cinematic* basis. Neither scene is hot literature, buta una tinks tis! Theesa could besa perfectly acceptable lines per da purpose of supportin' a cinematic narrative, buta ebberyone involved obviously believes dis writin' is itself da accomplishment. Boot hair Mesa can spake objectively, tis neither spaking anyting new nor spaking it in an innovative way.

Because it's not tested yet.

Eat at a local restaurant tonight. Get the cream sauce. Have a cold pint at 4 o'clock in a mostly empty bar. Go somewhere you've never been. Listen to someone you think may have nothing in common with you. Order the steak rare. Eat an oyster. Have a negroni. Have two. Be open to a world where you may not understand or agree with the person next to you, but have a drink with them anyways. Eat slowly. Tip your server. Check in on your friends. Check in on yourself. Enjoy the ride.

FINALLY
a Anon Babble HAPPENING reference

Should I watch Rogue One tonight or will I just be disappointed?

fight the cheeto empire :^)

No, Star Wars is the OT and that's it.
The rest is all fanfiction, from the prequels to Andor.

Watch MobLand.
Then I dunno.

The Emperor reckoned that everyone would rebel if they found out.

If someone knows their giant superweapon exists they can come after it. The dish for DS1 isn't in yet at this time which would provide easy access to the internals. The internals being exposed is why they didnt need an exhaust port weakness to destroy DS2 in ROTJ since it was only half built. Now the Empire didnt know about the exhaust port but anyone could tell without the dish that would be where to enter to get to the reactor.

It has its moments at the end with all the ships in the space and ground battles but the pacing, characters and dialogues are pretty bad

maybe it's better to give it a few days

You forgot Rogue One, that is needed for Andor

Watch Skeleton Crew

Is Andor better than The Godfather?

Yeah, but the Godfather is extremely overrated

Part 3? Yeah.

i did and honestly it wasn't that jarring besides the fact that the plot warps around Jyn Erso

Yes.

This is the reason why the sequels turned out the way they were but also the reason Andor is kino

At the end of the day the blame should be on the creatives, and so far the only good ones have been Gilroy with Andor and Favreau on the first season of Mandalorian

Andor followed by the empire being defeated by teddy bears is jarring in a different way.

As someone who casually watched Godfather 2 while it was on TV, probably. I don't get the obsession 70s-80s era had with gangsters as if it was some kind of artistic endeavor to portray it.

It was Italian propaganda.

we wait for the ballerina money

Yes, because they are both overrated, pretentious, boring slop.

Vote Kamala.

The teddy bears are only tolerated by me because of the throne room kino and Jabba's palace kino

Bad bait. season 1 was cool and rogue one too but they dont compare to lucas' ep 1-6 movies.

My nigger Lonni didn't deserve this shit.

is it time for us to start building up the Rebellion irl?

That's on Andor for trying the "dark gritty late 2000s reboot" thing on a universe that is the opposite of serious.
Someone needs to make a video of Mon Mothma's genocide speech and intercede it with vids of Palpatone throwing the Senate seats at Yoda, or verbally and literally roasting Luke.

It's fucked up how incompetent and pussy the Coruscant ISB branch was. Meanwhile Agent Kallus was out there capturing literal Jedi and fighting the Fulcrum rebels who were objectively 10x more dangerous and problematic than the Axis rebels... who they took 4 years to catch despite them literally hiding in their backyard. And all of them were limp dicks who had barely seen combat.

Andor never felt like THE main character, only a guy with his own story in an ensemble. But it does make sense that they named it after a specific guy vs. calling it something like REBELLION or whatever. I don't recall ever see Andor not feeling like the protagonist ever brought up before. Case in point he was absent for roughly half of the final three episodes

This. Andor and R1 are the best of the Disney era but they don't care to the original saga as a whole.

get your cringe ass cartoon fanfic out of here

Sister or no, Cassian never came across in this show as a character driven by a savior complex. It's not something that was strongly communicated to be driving his actions. Flashing back to his sister for a few seconds in the last episode substitutes for strong character writing.

In many of these cases, we can make direct comparisons to the source material. Does Andor ever rise to the level of the prequels' depiction of Anakin's obsession with saving his mother? Does telling that story through a bunch of generic flashbacks make as much of an impact?

A major reason I was so taken aback by Andor is because its writing--I mean basic story and plot--was so genuinely amateurish. Flashbacks are a valid tool but one that is often abused by lazy writers. The way Andor relies on them for its character writing is a textbook example.

Throughout the show there are scenes where Andor is alternately reluctant and then willing to be part of the Rebellion, but the way they're written he may as well just be shouting "I'M RELUCTANT", "OK NOW I'M WILLING." Character motivations are a huge weakness of this show.

OH MY GOD

I'm a lazy bastard who does jack shit except voting once every 4 years, see? I'm literally a rebel soldier

This is why Andor needed way more showcase of war, its making millennial manchildren they have anything to do with characters who are actually doing something.

Filonislop

RED LIGHTSABERS GO SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI SOI

Reminder that Mon Mothma's stupidity and liberal-tier refusal to fight the Empire lead to the New Republic's destruction.

Ep1 Jarjar is jarring, podracing is boring, Ep2 was extremely weak outside of Dooku. Ep3 was kind of ham-handed in its handling of some things. Like there was no natural, gradual indoctrination of Anakin. He's on the Jedi's side right up to he stops Mace presumably to get Palps to stand trial instead of outright just Mace killing Palps, and then suddenly he is all in on that dark side shit right after. If it was for Padme, he never would've gone to Mace in the first place to tell him about Palps.

What was the point of this character?

We hope for something good to come along.
I'll rewatch the OT, and probably move to SW vidya, starting with Kotor.

I can't recall much about s1 but I have a vague recollection he didn't join Luthen out of some burning ideological desire to bring the Empire down but because he had no option left. No home, no way to be employed, etc. etc. so was like 'fuck it' and joined Luthen because at there you have jobs, a head over your roof, etc.

Non-canon.

Based dudposting

genocide and entire people

kill multiple rebels and even a stormtroopers throughout a cartoon

somehow gets to join the rebellion and becomes an officer

Literally how did he get away with it

podracing is boring

stopped reading. again, i could tell it was bait from the beginning so theres no need to continue. try another thread.

someone for the crazy black guy to fuck on the side

1-6

They're clearly better than prequels don't kid yourself

Disney is the one who determines whats canon.

Lonni's family were most likely sent to an internment camp or were directly executed

I guess Luthen thought the risks were too big to even bother trying to evacuate him and his family, but fucking hell.

Don't care.

Enjoy your podracing then, little anon. But for adults it was the most boring thing about the movie.

we look forward to more good Star Wars content that Disney will make

he's andor's adopted son

Blame the p*liticians who do jack shit and bend the knee to fashies

MORE MONEY FOR CHUDSRAEL

Is Cassian ever really driven by anything? Other than “the plot wanting it” I guess.

hey Luthen, I discovered this thing that's literally going to start the Star Wars Franchise

*PEW*

He should have left the show in 4-6. The whole thing with him there was seemingly going from the measured approach of Luthen to becoming radicalised with Saw. Yet, he shows up again in 7-9 when the show could have just had, and what seems more fitting, Vel be with Luthen during the Ghorman massacre. Even in 10-12 the signal from Coruscant could have been received by Andor rather than him.

/andor/ decides what is canon

No, I blame a populace who is a paper tiger, everyone talks big but does jack shit.
Politicians are inherently corrupt and impossible to trust, they only behave when they fear the populace, and who the fuck is going to fear a populace who think the biggest act of rebellion you can do is voting.

so what happened to the Bothans? Between Andor, Rogue One, and the Rogue One novelization we have basically gotten the entirety of the "Death Star plans" story origin. "Many Bothans died to bring us this information" leaves room for interpretation but not if there are no Bothans to speak of. It was the main reason why I disliked Rogue One and Andor, while good, failed to rectify this continuity error.

With all the sci-fi tech and money, you'd think he could at least burn his face so he couldn't be recognised in a new life or some cringe shit like that proving his ruthlessness but no, he straight up shot him in a park.

OG Mon Mothma is 92 years old and still kicking

Holy shit

will there be an Andor s3?

I miss the canon tiers. How am I supposed to believe Andor Mon and the Mon from the nucanon books are the same person? The canon tiers with a little more tonal oversight is the best system.

he's not wrong

podracing is cool (see the game as well). but george let the sequence go on too long and needed to shave some time off it

lonni said his family is safe. they're stuck on coruscant but he moved them to safehouse/location before he met with luthen

You didn't see them because they were using active camo.

Rogue One is utter shit

No it goes straight into Rogue One in terms of in-universe minutes.

andor s3 with be bothans s1

Indeed. He is such a fucking non-character charisma vacuum. Why did he even go to Ghorman, when he did not want to? Because the plot needed him to.

no, it's actually finished

I used to hate the canon tiers but now I realize how much sense they made. Instead we get Disney's retarded "anything we shit out whether it is comics or video games is now canon, yes that includes mobileslop" policy.

That's just Ian McKellen

Syril's actor and her have acted together as well. A bit sad they couldn't bring her on as a background easter egg character.

Manny Bothans is responsible for the death star 2 plans. he'll get his show someday

The series literally ended going into Rogue One. It's over.

Anon, it's over.

Is she the oldest person still living from the OT? I checked Julian Glover (Veers) and he is 90.

Are the ratings for season 2 in? Did this season do better than season 1 or is it still a flop?

BOTHAN DEEZ NUTS

Don't forget

forgiven by the people he genocided and welcomed to live with them in open arms

nothings ever really over

includes mobileslop

The diablo clone where you’re in a post-fall system on lockdown was a more interesting setting than anything Andor presented.

based retard

yes. It's already up
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) [2160p] [4K] [BluRay] [5.1] [YTS] [YIFY]

You asking more of the same is why Star Wars will never be truly good.
You need to run every gimmick into the ground.

Reportedly, it's even worse than Acolyte per episode.

Somehow Andor returned...

Bothans stole the plans to the second Death Star, not the first

Yep. They make sense. The biggest problem with the EU wasn't the tiers, it was the authors mischaracterising established characters. Its why NJO fell off. A little more oversight + the tiers would allow for the most creativity without turning Luke or Han into retards.

is the reason the rebellion even knew about the death star

An absolute unsung hero who was brutally murdered by the coward Luthen.

new trilogy is still rebels vs. empire, new republic btfo, reformed jedi does not exist, leia still scrappy guerilla leader, han a smuggler again now

The sequels were broken from day one. New Republic and reformed Jedi Order should have been there and thriving as a testament to the OT struggles being worth a damn, Han walking around as a General, etc. etc. Imperial remnant should have been under Thrawn and way way way smaller and on defensive in a broader sense but their troops, equipment quality, etc. is incredible. Have Thrawn babble about some old battle somewhere (that is very very obviously some sci fi shit equivalent of the Battle of Gaugamela) where the totally outnumbered victors won with a sharp precise attack for the head of the snake with their superior troops/weapons, etc. etc. Someone once said it on an Ahsoka thread but Disney is anti-kino, them asserting this being prompted by how Filoni handled Ezra and Thrawn, mortal enemies, being exiled together to a new galaxy, i.e. they did NOTHING and somehow avoided each other the entire time

LOL Disney is never making dreary and "mature" Star Wars media ever again

not giving credit to the real hero

She and her boyfriend deserve statues.

Star Wars is a Flash Gordon-inspired serial adventure for families — a mythological fairy tale, distilled into a space opera format. It has a sense of wide-eye wonder, the aliens, the goofy music, the silly robots, the big space battles, and yes, the lightsabers, the Force, the princesses, the desert shaman, the evil samurai guy in all black choking people with his mind, Sergio Leone inspired space cowboys and pirates, the humor, the charm, the goofiness, the actual spirit of an adventure film made for families. Andor is none of that. It is the opposite of that. It is the antithesis of that. It's a generic sci-fi NBC drama in space london. It has nothing of Star Wars, other than the occasional usage of legacy memorabilia, such as Stormtroopers, TIE-Fighters, etc. — and even those feel grossly out of place when seen next to extremely generic, "grounded" and bland original designs of the show, such as the nigger with AK in the woods. Andor is "Star Wars" made by r/atheism. It is especially evident when it tries so, so hard to be "adult", that it becomes embarrassing. "Look! We have character saying SHIT! Now THAT'S MATURE AND SUBVERSIVE! LOOK! WE HAVE A BROTHEL! LOOK! THE CHARACTERS IMPLIED TO HAVE SEX, LOL!" Really made me cringe.

dave filoni is the new kathleen Kennedy destroying star wars now that Kathleen has been redeemed.

they should just do like a 3 episode batch of a Rogue One recut

What was even the point of the gas huffing scene? He should’ve stayed with Saw and that would be the last we see of him. He doesn’t even join Andor’s sewside skwaad to Scarif.

take a cue from it and voot against the orange nigger

Are you okay, Anon?

Anyone got the image of Krennic pressing his finger down on Dedra's head? The pic I did save turned out to be a thumbnail for some reason.

If you think about it, Andor got 8 full length movies. More than any protagonist.

fashies

the reason why authoritarian regimes are based is because there is a transparent chain of command and it is clear who is responsible for what
in your cuckold liberal democracy everyone shifts responsibility to someone else
the Empire did nothing wrong

MY CARTOONS ARE VALID, MY CARTOONS ARE VALID MR FAVREAU, THE MURAL WILL LOOK LIKE THE CARTOONS. LARS VOICED THRAWN IN MY VALID SHOW SO HE ***WILL*** PLAY THRAWN IN THE SHOW EVEN THOUGH HE IS A GANGLY SKINNY FAT TURKEY NECKED ELON-MUSK LOOKING FREAK IN LIVE ACTION AS THRAWN

the snoopy goodie two shoes co-worker was inadvertently responsible for the discovery of the death star because she dug too deep looking for a single rebel cell

kino plot line.

Blandor is utterly soulless dogshit. It appeals only to teenage midwits from letterboxd and twitter film crowd, who think Nolan, Villeneuve and Eggers are the hottest shit ever, but something actually complex and designed to be thought provoking and requiring effort, like Tarkovsky, Bergman, Godard, Eisenstein and other actual filmmakers are "boring". So they settle for that kind of "serious" and "adult" capeshit — it's still capeshit, but, you see, it's kinda "serious", "dark" and "adult", even though it is fundamentally set in the universe of silly super people wearing spandex suits and capes, based on the literal children's media. The perversion and subversion of said children's media seems "smart" to them. But in reality, it is inferior to both. It is nothing but joyless, pretentious, ugly drivel that adds absolutely nothing in terms of narrative or themes, and only exploits the name of the IP in order to promote the author's unnecessary, obnoxious "take" on what he considers fundamentally below them. Utterly irrelevant, pointless, needless story, without a single creative bone in its body. It's revolting. All you need is characters talking constantly without actually saying anything, and a bunch of forced, cringe, emmy bait monologues to make midwits lose their shit. Embarrassing.

Actual Star Wars has infinitely more substance and depth than any culturally irrelevant thing Disney and/or (heh) Tony Gilroy have come up with in his career.

youtube.com/watch?v=vqnjzVX8EKA
youtube.com/watch?v=ZbfvS_BwCls
youtube.com/watch?v=xaeTOMvf67c

Andor: Show about how the Rebellion learned about the Death Star

Rogue 1: How the Rebellion stole the Death Star plans

A New Hope: How the Rebellion blew up the Death Star

Is there any more room to fit more Disney Empire slop into the timeline?

You are nigger cattle.

A series can evolve over time. It doesn't have to remain with its original conception forever.

Why is Cassian so fucking mean to K2.
And don't give me anything about K2 being an ex-warcriminal - they were playing cards with him and he saved their asses.

More like eating ass.

NOTHING to me will top how royally they fucked up a character as simple as Boba Fett

He founded the Rebellion is what he did!

He was a great revolutionary!

And in this house, Luthen Rael is a hero! End of story!

ass is good

I got so bored watching Attack of the Clones I turned it off. Doesn't get blander.

Everyone in Star Wars is racist to droids for some fucking reason.

droids dont have human rights

Filtered.

They should have just hired the actor that played Boba in AOTC. I like temura, but clearly Boba should have been a re-cast or they should have done what they did with Vader. Temura voices Boba, but the helmet is on a stunt double and stays on.

transparent chain of command and it is clear who is responsible for what

They pretend that they do and they still lost, lil bro.

ON PROGRAM

AI porn of this when

The Clone wars saw many worlds fall to armies of battle droids. The Empire used battle droids to subjugate planets. Droids are glorified gadgets that aren't ever completely trusted because of their potential to do harm

good cinematography means shit if the movie is bad. and AOTC is the worst of the PTs by a country mile

Do the Imperial prisons provide feminine care products?

Boba's actor would have pitched a fit.
It might just be my imagination, but there was a brief period of time when New Zealand/Polynesian actors held sway at Disney and him being retained was probably related to that.

new spinoff show. DEDRA. its about uhhh....

Did /ourguy/ have the best outcome?

Partagazbros, I already mis him.

she has a kind of autistic lesbian vibe about her;
including not even realizing she was a lesbian and marrying/partnering with some guy who gave off closet-case or tranny-vibes (authoritarian basket case with severe mommy issues)..

ONE WAY OUT

This non-Temura guy did Boba voice briefly in one of the Force Unleashed games and I thought he was good too. Also years before the shitty Boba show came out I basically envisioned his sarlaac escape to be a real moment on screen, something inspired a bit by something like the coffin escape scene in Kill Bill 2. A stand out moment in whatever film/tv show explored Boba, probably conveyed via flashback. Compared to how it was in the actual show. Disney is allergic to kino

Does either EU or Disney canon address anything about the Separatists post-Clone Wars? I am talking about in meaningful depth rather than just references. When it came to the New Republic, either versions, was its attitude everything that was the Empire / Old Republic has to join? And planets that, even if not some Imperial remnant, got forced into the fold?

vel still alive is odd. would've expected her to die somehow. lonni knew luthen would kill him if he had everything he needed to know, but he didnt think he'd do it in such an open public place. its why he didnt meet him in the underworld like they normally do. what a shame.

None of the sacrifices matter because their just going to build 2 more Death Stars then Palpatine will return with Death Star laser Star Destroyers.

ok so just finished it and i'm feeling... disappointed?
i guess where everyone ended up was fine, but man there is no climax at all.

Every meeting with him in it was kino.

now that the show is over what do we do

she has a cameo in the next season of mando

lol what the fuck is this??

Good, Filoni will free the world from this slop franchise

I wonder if the prison has male or females guards?

it's orange is the new black except the niggers, irish, and thai get electrocuted because of genetic predisposition to adhd; rendering them unable to follow simon says

Of course. Palpatine and Vader may have committed genocide more times than they can count but at least they aren't fucking rapist misogynists or racists

it's insanely overrated, especially now in the context of andor.

Starts a whole galaxy wide rebellion after quitting his job as a Sargent

Still has time to have a genuine career in his passion of antiques

An heros as a final fuck you to the Empire

Knows how to party

Gives a damn good monologue

Probably the most based character in the whole franchise

unfortunate nature of a prequel series

why did they do him like this?

Maybe they should have just done it better. Nothing to do with being a prequel.

the only logical route from his perspective.

he probably went back to the shipbreaking industry and is just minding his business while things deteriorate;

I think I should get going.

We had some good laughs.
We had some discussions.
We made some webms.
I'll watch Rogue One in a few days.

Take care /andor/ general, you'll be remembered like /ttg/

Tales of the Underworld and the Bad Batch both have former separatists trying to survive against the empire at multiple points.

I'll see you in the Ashoka waiting room

Dedra is released by the New Republic after 8 years in prison thanks to her lawyer arguing she deserves a new trial

but she's going to be sent right back to prison because she's ISB

agents of the First Order find her and try to extract her, not realizing she was the one who bungled the Death Star plans

just a continuous comedy of errors where Dedra has to hide the real reasons behind her imprisonment and survive two titanic forces of incompetence (New Republic and First Order) that are fighting a stupid cold war for no good reason

It could be a black comedy.

Kleya bros.. she made it

the reason why authoritarian regimes are based is because there is a transparent chain of command and it is clear who is responsible for what

ah yes the famously transparent and efficient soviet and nazi bureaucracies

lmao this nigga actually believes this. some authoritarian systems, like singapore, work well. most rely on retarded cults of personality and loyalty tests that breed dysfunction.

Goodbye, old friend.

ngl bros they fucked it, looked really promising last week but finale was total ass. luthen and his backstory was kino, but other than that, there's nothing here. that the pinnacle of these final episodes were "k2so kills 6 people in a hall" was a major disappointment. they should've just not bothered tying it right into rogue one.

but how many innocent did he killed and harmed ? more than Saw for sure

Because they didnt want mara jade or Ben Skywalker. So you got vagrant luke and Ben Solo.

Take care /andor/ general, you'll be remembered like /ttg/

We all know now that Rogue One should have had Andor and K as duel protagonists and that's it, none of this Riz Ahmed or Jyn Erso dogshit

Kudos on her performance on a first on-screen mainstream acting job.

i loved lucas' star wars movies growing up but at this point i think Dune is a better world for further sci fi production for any aspiring writer/director. Dune prophecy sucks and too bad the films are in villenueves hands. i liked dunc 1 and 2 to watch, but i know they are horrible for many reasons. i would never recommend them as "good" film, just something easy to watch if you can ignore zendaya among other issues. i was excited for Tau Ceti Four but that got cancelled. rebel moon was slop but that was to be expected. if your a director now and want to do big space kino, stay away from disney and star wars. find a good book/pre existing universe to adapt or rip off instead. fuck, can we get a blindsight movie? it wouldnt be a big trilogy, just one film, but it could be generationally kino. i have no idea who could direct it though. big studios would have to stay away or it would definitely be ruined and dumbed down. likely to be a box office failure regardless since nobody knows what it is.

They pretend that they do and they still lost

yeah, and the galaxy’s been rotting ever since. enjoy your “freedom” hope the rebel-issued slop and planetwide blackouts were worth it

It's bizarre that Han and Leia would name their kid after Ben Kenobi when neither of them knew him by that name.

Why does the show have to climax at the last episode?

some authoritarian systems, like singapore,

redpill me on singapore

I didn't watch Ahsoka beyond a bit of S1 and clips of ghost Anakin fight. Should I change that?

no.

You get thrown in jail for chewing gum because they want to keep the streets clean.
It's as if your strict grandmother ran a fascist regime.

Dedra found a guy in the clink and they broke out together

thanks for confirming my point. we know exactly who did what. it’s structurally clear. that’s the point

ghorman arc and last arc should have been more closely integrated. just not enough happens in last 3 eps

well it shouldn't climax in the middle probably

That just gives him a bit of spice. You can't make a rebellion without cracking a few innocent eggs

The fight scenes are terrible, thrawn is meh. But Titus Pullo is a scene stealer, just like in Rome. I watched it for he.

it doesnt matter if you know who is in charge if that person is a moron.

Did you miss the part of the ISB subplot where the only guy left standing was the most incompetent one

is consistently the most obnoxious rebel leader

Ironically Andor is so averse to the disney trilogy that the only reason it doesn't fit automatically into legends canon is not because it canonizes anything new, but because it doesn't credit a 30 year old MS DOS Doom clone with capturing the death star plans (the most inconsistent part of legends lore)

rogue one before reshoots, what was it? the production of that movie will remain a mystery to those not deeply involved in it from the beginning. the original concept art for it seemed like it was going to be very different, better or worse? who knows.

30 year old MS DOS Doom clone

ANDOR DOESNT RESPECT CANON NOOOOOO

Hi guys!

Is some of the strictness to basically tard wrangle the most aggressively ethnonat tards of the Chinese, the Indians, the Malays, etc. communities that all share Singapore? They won't have will to reeee and assrush each other when they are all quaking in fear of their government if they as so much as chew gum

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Hilarious how they kept her that way from Rogue One and in the Andor finale. They could have showed more thinking and nuance for her and the other dude but no, they're one dimensional rebls but very-against-rebels for literally no reason other than to have cowardice voices on screen.

ayo hol up, mother of DEY HEA?

thanks for confirming that you are retarded and illiterate

He's jealous that K2 was in a parade in front of the Emperor.

I COMPLETELY forgot Riz Ahmed was in that movie, holy shit, now that Andor is over I should rewatch it

The ginge is so fucking hot. The doctor who companion lady is meh.

Im happy the bald guy with 4 squares was the last one standing. i thought he was under used in season 1. interesting partagaz and krennic were clearly "friends" before all this. they knew eachother by first names. probably went to the same academy or something. its also interesting that some senior imperials were around during the republic. like wolf yularan, wasn't he a high ranking guy in the republic before this show?

I don't think it has anything to do with ethnonat, what it is trying to tard wrangle is India tier squalor. Singapore used to be run by the British with a firm hand and the new government just doubled down because they weren't interested in becoming a backwater slum.

You get thrown in jail for chewing gum because they want to keep the streets clean.

HOLY BASED
BILLIONS MUST BIN

dedra getting imprisoned is the system working as intended. she disobeyed an order from her superior, which is treason. not to mention, she's the reason why rebels got the death star plans

nigger fatigue in a galaxy far far away

Chibi ahsoka!

she disobeyed an order from her superior, which is treason. not to mention, she's the reason why rebels got the death star plans

this was individual passion. im not disagreeing, but what essentially is being said, is that the ISB, no matter how senior you might be or competent, has no room for individuality. you are a machine. you dont disobey an order even if the end result *could* be advantageous. her humanity was her downfall. if she was a droid she'd still be working there.

the scenes of Krennic and the CGI zombie Tarkin were more kino than anything relating to the Rogue One team 'bonding'

Lol. Andor and K doing buddy cop shit, that would have held the movie up on the 'good guys' side of the story. Erase Jyn Erso from Disney canon entirely, Galen lived and died a childless man

KILLS A DISABLED MAN BECAUSE HE CAN'T CLIMB

THIS IS OUR HERO

based space lesbos

authoritarian pseudo democracy created by a benevolent strongman. functions well because it has
1. a high IQ and docile/obedient Chinese majority
2. a civil service that actually selects for competence
3. a semi-precarious geopolitical situation that ensures vigilance and the maintenance of 2

no it's just a marriage of Chinese autism and British colonial administration (a good thing)

That's kind of the point. In trying to further the Empire's interests, Dedra had to rebel against them and ended up just being an unknowing Rebel spy.

she's the reason why rebels got the death star plans

the rebels would have gotten them regardless for Galen

Gays don't exist in Star Wars, that's why George Lucas never wrote any

I want a clone unit on felucia in the clone wars show. live action obviously. Fuck needing temeurra morrison to voice them all, just get someone new, if the show is good people wont care. of course we need ayla secura with her fat ayylmao tits and ass as well. the show can have modern force is female slop combined with the kino of soldier suffering on a hellish planet where the droid army is the least of your worries.

SAAR YOU ARE NOT DOING THE TRUTHFUL HERE WE INDIANS ARE VERY VERY IMPORTANT TO SINGAPORE WE MAKE IT WHAT IT IS... SAAAAR YOU MUST DO THE NEEDFUL TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT INDIA SINGAPORE

ginge is kinda ratlike but in an appealing way (not a furry just sayin)

No anon, ginger AND a Doctor companion

Dedra had to rebel against them

Except the Empire is the rot and they were the ones who conducted planetwide blackouts

ultimately, it's just because of their offshore tax shit. people can make so much money and launder so much of it, it's one giant game of everybody pretending that's not the #1 reason they're there for. nobody wants to rock the boat, so everybody wins

what goes on in Hutt space? does the empire operate there? whats kashyyyk like under the empire? how about geonosis?

being an unknowing Rebel spy

She did nothing wrong, tactically, legalistically, or anything, except gloat at the last minute and give him time to commit sudoku with a 6000 year old knife metres away from a full on security team that could have secured him instantly.

It's so hard to ever mimic the comedy kino that is Indians that are poorfag retards to fluent enough in English. I laughed hard recently at this phone call where these guys fucked up a vegetarian man's orders and he's raging and saying stuff to the restaurant worker like YOU LITTLE RASCAL and I WANTED GOBI NOT CHICKEN WHAT IF I ORDERED YOUR MOTHER AND GOT YOUR SISTER

Who are you?! to jyn

no they wouldn't have. that's because of andor

it's a whole bunch of butterfly effects. andor is never with the rebellion at the start of rogue one if it wasn't for dedra (and syril) being overzealous

at the same time you can argue that the empire's stuffy rules and regulations led to her being a "scavenger" and having to be overzealous. it's pure pottery

what goes on in Hutt space?

Space mafia and space turd world.

does the empire operate there?

Yes and no. It's sort of like how the US has bases in Africa.

whats kashyyyk like under the empire?

Watch the Holiday Special. No, really.

how about geonosis?

Genocided.

the best part about her ending is the lack of any mention of syril. she already fucking forgot about all that, especially with this all being 1 year later.

I'm part of it

aliens get genocided without even bothering to set up a falseflag to justify it.

you don't gotta go make me hard out of nowhere like that, time to go appreciate some karen gillan.. imagine her whispering scottish accent in your ear as you cum

'alright mate....fancy telling me who you are mate?'

what's their tax policy?

does Partagaz know that Palpatine is a Sith Lord? i was wondering how he behaves towards officers during those meetings they have

Bitter old man Luke was one of the few interesting things in that movie, people got angry for the wrong reasons.

*wins*

ngl i'd probably run with saw instead of the yavin gang if i was in this galaxy. if i had a choice.

it could have been interesting, but it was executed extremely poorly

bald

AYE REBEL!

Consider suicide anon

baldness is a sign of virility

The problem with hermit Luke is he just gave up and had nothing to show for it, when a bitter old Luke who did have a Jedi Order but was frustrated with what he had built (cause he was a farmboy not an administrator or mystic) would have been much better.

no. watching the ending of ep 6, luke burning his father's body on endor, and then picturing anything after that ruins it. there should be no sequels after ep 6, unless its a total new story, spinoff on something unrelated to the skywalkers, to han solo, to 3po or r2d2 etc.

Just watched Rogue One
Can’t believe he’s gone bros
They’re all gone
And you get that stupid fucking scene of Darth Vader swinging his lightsaber around after
RIP Cassian one of the real ones

I really do not like TLJ but it would not have gotten the backlash it did if Luke did not to then 'die' at the end of the movie. I am telling you, he does his little trick and collapses back onto his rock from exhaustion, looks at the twin suns with hope and determination on his face, and see him pulling the x wing out of the water and the reception to that movie would have been softened a lot, because that basically conveys = Luke one hundred percent in the fight in the flesh in episode 9. Instead they get force cameos after bitter old man in 8 after being absent in 7

The Wookiees were all enslaved and they gassed all the Geonosian hives in Rebels.

vader scene is kino though
or am i supposed to believe it's reddit now

i know theres onions outs over the darth vader scene but i didnt mind it since its nice to know that came before the first scene in ANH. that is to say, all those rebels posted up in the hallway knew what was coming. but obviously that time its just stormtroopers.
abunch of reddit faggots like it but i dont think that means you cant like it.

always was

imagine if that didn't get cut in the gilroy version

Outside of the action setpieces I can't think of anything with the good guys being anywhere near as entertaining or engaging as Krennic vs Tarkin/Vader

America is funding Israel but they're also funding Ukraine. You cant have it both ways whiny faggots.

does Partagaz know that Palpatine is a Sith Lord?

id imagine even less people know about that than the death star

that pic

who is thomas massie?

Genuinely insane how fucking hot all the women are in this show
All the men as well come to think of it

Reading a 500 page or so book on the absolute shit show the sequels were behind the scenes with lots of insider info etc. would be a fantastic read, but it won't ever see the light of day with Disney spamming lawyers for eternity in order to bury such 'tell all' kino

imo, most kino portrayal of the force. i'm curious how force sensitive was she

2016 Anon Babble

"holy shit vader corridor scene is kino, how long have star wars FANS waited to finally see peak vader actually doing some mauling down"

2025 Anon Babble

stupid fucking scene of vader swinging lightsaber about

This is correct. If you have a King and Queen they will get all the blame. Even if you wanted a le revolution who exactly would you attack in a democracy? Its why Jan 6 was laughable. How would hanging mike pence change a thing.

and how long will they be safely stashed there? it's not like his wife and kid are trained spies or anything. They are getting scooped up by the Empire, inevitably. Nobody is coming for them.

A shitload of people know about the death star, maybe not its true purpose but at least its existence and you know they're told to be hush hush about it because otherwise the rebels would've already known about the construction of a moon sized giga project

Lol I effectively forgot the force existed when watching this show so was like 'tf is her deal' when this scene happened

just refer to the ANH scene with tarkin and others. they think the force is some dumb mystic shit, even though theres a guy in the room that chokes one of them with it right afterwards. i'd wager the top imperials really dont care about the emperor being "sith" since even if he wasnt he's still the emperor.

Probably not much more than Andor
Everyone is force sensitive to a degree most people just don’t listen to it and some have an easier time of it because of bacteria

There's already been some tension with the Finn actor coming out and saying he signed up to play a former stormtrooper and ended up playing a clown.

it's like pottery i

they think the force is some dumb mystic shit, even though theres a guy in the room that chokes one of them with it right afterwards.

typical chuds actually

Anon Babble is one person

Well hes also black

yes, but her potential is exceptionally high because it manifests itself as force healing and intuition

All three of the main characters are completely waste potential
They really must have thought they’d be set for life and I haven’t seen any of them in anything since

i'm too retarded to understand why Perrin would continue being a hedonist after his wife defected to the rebellion

Well the jokes on him in ways he can't even fully process because he'd still be hated even if Finn was an amazingly written character because Boyega and his only-a-mother-can-love face is not leading man material

Finally finished the series. I'm happy that B2 at least got to live with Bix instead of being left alone. Also it's amazing how smoothly the series transitions into Rouge One.

force pull multiply blasters

cant pull small hdd with ds plans

i took the scene as him realizing how much better a "challenging" wife was then the dumb slut sleeping on his shoulder is. in season 1 he doesnt really care for her passion or intellect he jsut wishes they could enjoy their wealth and lifestyle, but now without her and a simple woman with no strings attached he's bored.

Imagine someone watching Andor S1 and S2 first and then seeing Rogue One for the first time completely blind. I wonder if they'll be a bit annoyed that the movie is showering all the attention on this Jyn Erso bitch instead of Cassian

well shes cute and has a nice butt so i'd understand.

They were clearly setting Ep 9 up for Leia but then Carrie Fisher went and OD'd

id imagine even less people know about that than the death star

i mean, if i saw a nigga dressed in wizard clothes who survived assasination from dozens of republic most fearsome warriors, i'd connect the dots

Jedi and Sith are kinda cringe desu. Why does anyone in the Star Wars universe tolerate either of them instead of wiping both out?

considering how much it focused on other characters in his own show, the focus being on jyn and krennic wouldn't be too alarming

t. forcelet

how would you go about doing that.

shoot loads of rockets at them

No. The empire doesn't actually give a fuck as long you show results. Dedra and Syril were both smart but got outsmarted by a bunch of brown rebels. They both kept fucking up since Ferrix. They were given chance after chance but kept failing. Krennic only cared because she was dumb enough to keep the information she had on the deathstar.

Anyone remember the kino of SWTOR cinematics on youtube? too bad the game fucking sucks. to me that was where star wars should've gone past lucas, BF3 got canned. then disney happened, EA happened and here we are.

galaxy-wide pre-natal screening

Its all pointless as Palpatine stills wins in the end as Rey is his granddaughter.

does it suck? ive heard a lot of people say it's pretty good as a single player game.

should've got the Hound actor for this show instead of filoni slop. or better yet, some other show entirely.

If I'd want to give the sequels credit for anything, it's blending the slower fighting styles of the OT with the faster acrobatic ones of PT. Not amazing executing IIRC but the idea had was good

Those Plagueis theories from a decade ago really were the route they ought to have taken post tfa

i tried playing it as a sith marauder and nothing really happens. you just spam buttons and win and the story is non existent. the art style is atrocious. all of this is easier to tolerate if you dont see the cinematics which set way too high of a bar. but i dont like MMO/RPG games to begin with.

I think we need a new thread

Disney will de-canonize the JJ slop.

what improvements were even made to the Death Star II? what was the point in building it again? by then krennic was dead, tarkin dead, galen dead. what was the game plan? who was behind it's creation? they royally fucked it up considering the rebels found out about it in the first place. how does your fully operational DS 1 get rekt by some X wing squadrons and then you try to make a bigger better one, but get bum rushed again before even finishing it? whoever was in charge of that was a total retard. you have an entire imperial navy too. how about instead of making a new death star, make 1000 new ISD's, newer ones, better ones.

it was a bait

The scene makes him look incompetent. Also makes no sense in context to new hope.

It's weird how almost none of the Rogue One characters besides Cassian did anything of note in Andor. I would've like to see that blind monk and his merc brother, or Saw's faction actually doing anything. They also waited far too long to introduce K2.

awfully expensive bait. and it failed. but yeah i forgot about that part of ROTJ. the imperial fleet losing because an A-Wing nails the bridge of your flagship is pathetic.

daddy, what did YOU do in the galactic civil war?

I, uh, bussed pilots to their x-wings

How did they spend like 20 years building the Death Star but the second took like a year

Literal shell with a laser on it
It’s basically a big cardboard cut out to get rebel attention

because they already had the plans, tech etc figured out. because lucas never detailed this stuff in ANH, this is all new info in andor/rogue one.

what happens when a planet disappears? did alderaan's fragments gravitate to a central point and form a small new dwarf planet orbiting its star? also, the other planets, if any in that system, would've been fucked up too.

Lina Soh hospital

high republic finally gets a W

Also, I was disappointed at how we didn't get to see the Yavin 4 faction being formed rather than it just appearing after a timeskip.

they already had the plans, tech etc figured out

This, and the existing production lines for DS parts
DS2 probably re-used a lot of existing parts so they wouldn't have to design entirely new components

unironically the desctructive capability of the death star seems cooler if it was between what it does in Rogue One and ANH. not an instant explosion into nothing, nor a 50mt nuke. maybe it hits the planet and the entire thing turns into a clump of colliding molten chunks.

i like her voice too, it's very feminine

it was kino to give Andor some force aura in the show

Palpatine does not make an appearance or cameo in Andor or Rogue One because he's too busy dicking down young desert sluts to appear on holo cam.

DS1 had a lot of setbacks because they were figuring shit out as they go.
DS2 streamlined process, hastily assembled carcass to lure out the rebellion.

It's weird how they went out of their way to NEVER show Palpy

you ever go hiking in difficult and uknown terrain
first time is slow and laborious
second time is a breeze
everything is kinda like that

One Way Out!

just aim the death star on the planet they're currently on

Existing production lines, knowledge, and tech already there as opposed to building it from scratch like the DS1. But most importantly no more bureaucracy or senate to hide it from. Pure dictators get shit done quickly. They were well past needing to cover up genocides or mass enslavement at that point.

his is such a good actor. loved his scenes!
Partagaz bros I....

i read that as genital screening, like if jedi and sith were circumcised

I was VERY impressed by her acting
In S1 she was just an annoying comms girl....In S2 she became a character

Died with honour like a Roman.

like a Samurai, no?

I watch things for plot, set design is just a side thing

i still cannot believe how they ruined a-goddamn-THRAWN of all characters in that show.
They couldn't even bother to remove the dad bod from the actor
After Ahsoka S1 I stopped being a Filoni fan

like a Samurai, no?

that was luthen when he committed hari-kari

KEEEK
proof that niggers will ruin things regardless of the galaxy

a good story is nothing if the body its in is ugly and unpleasant to watch and listen to. and vice versa. film is a visual medium. a writer can come up with all sorts of stuff but he can only make a book out of it without the production and director transforming it into a film. calling them a "side thing" is arrogant.

Kino(HDR snapshots on vlc look like shit but just wanted to show Partagaz's first scene and his last)

this never happened idgaf

star wars ends with return of the jedi

this

another le wrong generation zoomer so totally buckbroken that he can't enjoy anything without thinking of reddit

How do we solve for this site's terminal contrarianism? A black sheep is still just another sheep.

So glad we got some Krennic and Partagaz KINO before the end.

KINO

what did he do wrong?

RIP to Melshi too :/

god damn i love this show

Andor proves you could make a show about nothing but Imperial politics.

He forgot how the room was supposed to function

IT'S LIKE POETRY IT RHYMES

BRAVO GILROY (not even memeing, it's pure kino)

Nothing and that’s why the Empire is truly evil
You can’t have authoritarianism without such things happening

never went up in rank in four years

I think she does not have force healing but she encourages the body to heal faster. so a +heal speed buff. Andors' injury didn't heal that much the next day

Andor is honestly one of the only pieces of media in recent memory that comes close to understanding how Nazi Germany worked and why it was actually bad

this. dedra showed initiative by not giving up on axis

but at the same time he was strangled by high command politics in wanting to keep the emperor's doomsday weapon a secret so dedra couldn't flourish if she was allowed to keep pursuing axis to begin with even after failing on ferrix

This is why I can't watch HDR content at all, it always looks like shit to me. If anything non-HDR stuff looks like real life. HDR all looks washed out in my case. Never seen it look dark as hell like this though but I dont use VLC

1/10 bait.

his boss fucked up

It looks great on my TV or phone through Plex, its just my monitor aint an HDR one so watching it on VLC makes it look washed out as hell and I was too lazy to download a non-hdr version to take the snapshots.

Well said. Also think about.... they had to get all the resources first - the one from Ghorman and the kyber from Jedha. Obv they would stockpile that shit cuz that's what the power does - it accumulates resources because it can.
Makes sense it was built faster. Maybe we get a show later that explains second Death Star.
captcha: d00kv

tell someone before the disney acquisition and "revival" of star wars movies, that in the future werner herzog and stellen skarsgard would be in two seperate Star wars shows.

werner herzog in fucking star wars is still surreal

The force is in all living beings. He is not force-sensitive, but the force works through him just like with many people in the galaxy. Andor just had a role to play in the grand conflict.

Please try being less of a faggot next time you post.

looking back the first trailer for mandalorian feels like a fever dream. crazy that the same show ended up with fat nigger lizzo and jack black playing with a baby yoda puppet.

You can tell the exact moment (((Disney executives))) got involved.

His mission statement was "prophylaxis." Rooting things out before they become too much of a problem. The show ends with the Rebellion becoming less of an insurgency and more of an open revolt. He realizes that and that he will become the scapegoat for this and punches his own ticket.

KINO
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Reminder: Bix YEARNS for the wheat fields of rape.

Gonna add, the force healer was added very masterfully. Despite no force in the show, this was a great addition.
And I believe it was meant to portray what I said in We can say the same about Luthen, Mon, Nemik, and many others in the show. The mystery of it was done veeery good. No more midichlorian bs like in prequels.

youtu.be/aOC8E8z_ifw
this feels like andor more than filoni slop. the lack of any dialogue till herzog's line makes it so kino. and it felt like something not so focused on the usual good vs bad slop and more just a guy "making his way in the galaxy" inbetween these forces. the only thing in the trailer that gives it away is gioncarlo being in it.

Not much to make a show about for the DS2 unless you just really want to see what Tiaan Jerjerrod's day to day was like and Manny Bothans. Everything significant is already in the movies.

There's a running theme in the show of small actions mattering in the grand scheme of things, done by otherwise insignificant people. A nice contrast to the tired "chosen one" trope of mainline Star Wars movies.

Andor is literally the chosen one