Is it a supernatural movie or is it about Jack's insanity?
Or is it about something else (native americans, abuse, conspiracy theories)?
The fuck is this movie about?
Op is a white idiot.
duh what's this Kubrick movie about?
You're asking a board of people "pretending to be" idiots for deep film analysis when it's already on YouTube. Think really hard about why this is a bad idea.
Moon landing was fake
It's about ghosts driving him insane so they can add to their collection of spirits trapped in the hotel.
It's about a lil guy who sees ghosts, and a dad who also sees ghosts, and I guess the mom sometimes sees ghosts as well
The Shining’s Thesis: The White Man’s burden is a generational cycle of substance abuse learned as a coping mechanism to process the self-inflicted trauma from violence and genocide upon African and Native Americans.
The point being, when you murder the brown people, even when you pretend to be white supremacists, the violence you administer tears your white soul apart. And your great grandfathers and your fathers and you have turned to drugs and alcohol to cope with your disturbed souls. White people feel guilty for how natives and blacks are left in in this world and Kubrick used this guilt as a foundation for a horror film.
I fucking love how Kubrick films have these layers of semi-paranoid theories about them
It's about a family staying the winter watching a large Art Deco Era Hotel. While there the father slowly descends into a mental health crisis because of a mixture of isolation and the age of the old hotel.
His wife and child have to flee due to his mental health crisis descending into a homicidal rage, and he pursuits them through the cold.
Due to the fact the was having a mental health crisis he was not properly prepared for the winter weather and subsequently freezes to death.
OK
now who or what is a "shining"
It's a polishing of a car or shoes.
Just read the book.
Yes!
Figure it out yourself. Thats the fun of movies that are a bit opaque.
This
Hallorann was a shine. By telling Danny they both share “the shining” he was essentially calling him an honorary negro, and promising that one day they’d smoke reefer and dance some soft-shoe together.
Shh! You want to get sued?
Pretty much actually. I don’t know if it revolves squarely around the native Americans but the message is pretty clear that within the white man there is a drunken greed that makes him the true monster to his family and world
Unironically true and the power of empathy is a non-white power
the book is worth reading but Kubrick changed quite a lot and they end up being completely different. Kubrick never seemed content to simply adapt the source material (thankfully)
the documentary on the schizos looking for a hidden message in this film is way better than the film itself
It's a meta story of two big greets shitting each other out of spite and malice
King write the book to get ahead of outing ofaccusations of him being a drug addicted abusive husband and father, who regularly tortured and terrorized his family, so he present himself as a martyr "driven to evil by literal demons".
Kubrick only did the film because King sold the movie rights to The Shining to Warner, who Kubrick had a multi picture deal with and who had started hating making films after Barry Lyndon flopped. His assistant suggested that he go out of his wheelhouse and make a film for a genre that he hated to regain his love of making movies and Warner gave him free reign to turn King's self insert story into a tale of spousal abuse in a haunted hotel with Kubrick going wild raping the source material because he could and going down different divergent rabbit holes driven by his desire to turn a horror film (a genre Kubrick hated) into an IRL shit post with no real meaning that King had to take as he had no veto power over his adaptation.
And critics keep going around in circles thinking there is deeper meaning to the work outside a shared idea of creative blocks in creative people.
it's probably about child trafficking, like most of his movies
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Kubrick tell us that he has faked moon landing.
How does adding a psychic ghost add to the power of the other spirits? Besides killing the entire family for sport I never understood why they wanted Danny. Ghosts are kinda psychic by default.
Oh shut up nigger bitch with your pseud. Europeans were also invaded and attacked by foreign people and they fought back.
The only thing i got out of this movie were the guys who showed the movie backwards and forwards at the same time and it highlights the gorgeous cinematography.
some bullshit about how white men are evil
SK visits a haunted Indian hotel and says ‘the real monster is me when I get to drinking’ and then did some coke and made it a story
Supernatural hotel
Fueled by the evil rituals that used to occur there, psychic energy, and death to the point the lodge is sentient. Jack's does go insane, but it's the result of the super natural which is a result of wicked human action
Right and those invaders were considered evil. So culturally we must reckon with our desire to honor national defense as a virtue, alongside our American origins as foreign invaders. Also I was talking about the author’s message in this work of fiction anyways
How dull and literal. Cut out the middleman and admit america is haunted to a point of madness by the ghosts of its slain natives
uhh yeah I'm an alcoholic because... ah... I just feel so bad for those ni- colored folk and the injuns!
It does not revolve squarely around natives but brown people in general within America, which are represented by natives and blacks. The Shining invokes this bizarre conspiratorial schizo thinking wherein the film’s thesis is anything BUT The White Man’s Burden. Apollo landings, the holocaust, etc. Directly confronting the white guilt of genocide and slavery is actually so scary, even this thread is a microcosm: Look at the posters avoiding and evading this guilt. White people will make whole ass documentaries just to negate and avoid the guilt of The White Man’s Burden before discussing at length the quality of their local brewhouse’s IPAs.
Everywhere is haunted all the time that's why we live in a world of sin the dead outnumber you and you will soon join them.
I didn’t make The Shining. Take it up with Kubrick.
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Sure sure. This movie depicts the American flavor of haunting, though
True. It’s the denial of it all that causes so much additional madness. I was cracking up in the Forrest Gump thread watching anons argue once again ‘we actually won the Vietnam war because we killed the most people’, which is another act of bloodthirsty psychosis and denial
The denial is why white people devolve into substance and domestic abuse. They will drink and punch their wives to process the inherent guilt of living on the brown bones their grandfathers buried.
What on earth are you talking about?
Where in the film do you see any evidence for any of this?
Quit being a melancholic pussy and arguing universal depression to cover up your personal guilt over war crimes you identify with.
Intriguing
hotel is built on stolen native land: mentioned in the opening car ride
wendy is explictly costumed like native woman with long black braids and a dress covered in tee pees
hotel furniture and paintings are covered in tribal native art and portraits of natives which Jack throws a tennis ball on
the only person murdered in this horror film is a black man (A NIGGER COOK)
ban for me typing that word and prove me right
THE WHITE MAN’S BURDEN IS EXPLICITLY MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE FILM
but go ahead make a documentary about the Apollo landings or something
The movie is about a white alcoholic going crazy in isolation surrounded by the ghosts of slain native Americans at a hotel built on a native burial ground. Are you kindaaaaaa, slow?
Probably doesn’t work for people who decorate their house, desktop and mind with war crimes
it's about rape culture, toxic masculinity, and late stage capitalism.
bro most of the people on this board are retarded, they don't pick up on stuff like this
I dont feel guilt at all. Whites won and I wasn't even there.
pretty much
This will change to pride over time.
Yeah yeah yeah it’s all about you isn’t it
can't remember a scene where Indians appear or are addressed. Maybe it's because I don't care about the subject as a European, but I think this racial shame thing is just in your head.
The story is secondary in this movie, it's based on a book and Kubrick didn't change much. The stunning visuals and hidden messages are what you watch out for
Yeah out of indignance and frustration
Dude just because you’re a European and aren’t involved with the discussed white American guilt doesn’t mean that’s not what the movie was about.
the movie doesn’t even matter it’s just a vessel for Easter eggs
Spoken like someone who didn’t understand the movie. And what do you suppose were those secrets all hidden in the movie? Just gags? Most of them are references to American war crimes
Natives are explicitly mentioned only twice in the film: during the opening car ride and when Jack speaks to his boss outside the office before the interview. native iconography is plastered all over the film however, including this thread’s OP picture. which is a beading pattern of the kansi tribe. and again, for fun, Wendy is literally wearing tee pees all over her dress
Bonus Round: when Jack leaves the hotel with the axe in the third act, the illustrated portraits of two native children are hung on each side of the hotel door. which is OBVIOUSLY a deep and profound allegory to the Apollo landings
The story is secondary in this movie, it's based on a book and Kubrick didn't change much.
The sheer implication that directors choose books to adapt into film because they don’t care what the plot is. Lol
I just gotta say there’s a lot of stupidity in your post, the ‘protesting learning something you didn’t already know’, kind
It's an allegory of man's journey through marriage
It's an American hotel with typical Americana decor
The fact that Native Americans are mentioned once in passing tells me that you are probably reading too much into this.
I can think of themes that feature way more prominently. You've taken a throwaway line from the beginning that most people miss and the subtleties of the set design and given them central importance. This is literally the first time I'm hearing about racial politics being involved with this movie at all, and you're telling me it's basically what the whole thing is about? This is no better than the schizos looking for occultism.