Member how everyone was fellating this flick

still no sequel and no hype
what went wrong

matt reeves died :(

Movie was so bad it gave Matt Reeves AIDS

apparently he or someone in his family has multiple schlerosis and is dying

you could say there was something in the way.

It's Matt's wife who is dying, while he spirals into complete depression. Very sad.

Didn't this streamer chick reveal that he is in some kind of Boseman situation but not as severe?

mmm...mmm

yeah that fat cunt grace randolph did

he seemed fine a couple of months ago talking about the sequel.

The best course of action would be to have him come clean with it to the WB execs and give up the sequel to someone else. Surely, he should've done this already. His wife dying sounds like a tad bit more serious than a superhero blockbuster BUT at the same time, life and business goes on. It's not like this is his life's work, he's just a hired hand. What's going on? If he hasn't dropped out already, it can't something as serious as his spouse being terminally ill. Maybe it's not nothing big and Grace was bullshitting. hopefully.

James Gunn had Reeves' wife poisoned so his Batman sequel won't conflict with the DCU Batman

Being the Batman seems like an achievable goal to these people

It's the best Batman movie. Idc what contrarians say. Waiting for the sequel, which will be the second best Batman movie. Or maybe even the new best.

Its still better than Nolanslop.

That's not how it works. Things you do in public are public, things you do in private are private.

If something this grave and serious is holding up your work on a high-profile movie then you should step down. By letting it simmer and not quitting and focusing on the issue at hand, he has invited this scrutiny.

then you should step down.

Says who? If the studio wanted him to then they would make him, but they want him and can obviously wait.

What about you? You can't wait for a Batman movie so much that you need to weasle into people's personal lives. That's weird asf

how is batman not knowing spanish good, how is him needing penguins help to translate good? how is him clunking around like the t rex in jurassic park announcing his presence good? he's supposed to sneak behind you without you noticing
he crashed upon trying to dive off a building

It's a year one story you idiot. There, I explained literally everything for you.

the only reason he's not already fired or forced off the project is because it's bad optics to fire him if he has something this serious brewing.

Trying to speak on Bruce’s white privilege and how crime is predominantly white in inner cities

Have to raceswap everyone to be black to prove the point

I just don’t care, I’m burned out on DEIslop

This didn't happen though. Catwoman says some dumb shit about race, Batman rebukes her, and then she submits and kisses him. The stupid woman ideology was shut down on screen.

except he says he's been doing it for 2 full years

It's not Year One

It's Year Two!

lol

You have to be retarded if you think the entire movie wasn’t a thinly veiled attack on Batman’s whiteness. He’s literally a 29 year old incel, and the movie is about;

Raceswapped characters teaching him that being so angry and racist/sexist against lower class people and becoming basically a first responder while the black, woman mayor becomes the thing Gotham actually needs is the right way

Or stay an incel and become a Anon Babble posting maniac like the Riddler and his white mob

Also the fact that not a single bad guy in the movie is black, even the people playing the fucking knockout game. It’s wokeslop.

Yeah right, WB is really above that type of shit right?

year 3

You have to be having paranoid delusions to see this everywhere you look. Trust me, I am not some libshit retard, and I saw nothing wrong with this movie. You're probably a little too extreme, desu.

Like, yeah the gang of white kids and the one black kid that seems unsure of what they are doing is funny, but I don't see it as an attack on whiteness like some movies are. Batman is still white.

not a single bad guy was black

um catwoman the notable supervillian and antihero was black. they cast an actual black person as the greatest thief in the dc universe and you’re still bitching

Paranoid delusions

This isn’t an argument, you ignored all of my points, and you’re just retarded/mildly liberal, which is fine do you. But I’m 100% correct in my assessment that the movie was extremely woke purposefully and it centered on him being white.

Death of the Author means you can interpret a work however you please, but that interpretation will reflect you more than the original author. Take that for what you will.

What did she do that was villainous in the movie? She literally is his love interest who he helps the entire film

Death of the Author works on contextual clues and textual examples (something now misunderstood). Both things I provided and you haven’t. Death of the Author isn’t just “I think thisnis what islt means with no proof”. Race was a huge thematic element for this film, and until you have a counter argument for anything I’ve said feel free to stop replying.

sold drops to club goers (drug dealer, possession and intent to distribute)
tried to steal friend’s passport (b&e)
tried to kill falcone (attempted murder)

three actual felonies. and she’s black. think you’d love that but you don’t I guess, anything to fight a culture war

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Autocorrect not working when you need it to is gay

Race was not present in any of the themes of the film, which were overcoming personal hurdles, becoming a symbol of hope and focusing your work outward instead of inward. I saw it as more a story about mental health. And see, that's how it reflects us. I see mental health allusions, you see racial stuff.

Why would I love a raceswap? It works on two levels

It makes her crimes more sympathetic to the average liberal because she’s black struggling in an inner city

More WMBF pairing propaganda

It also was directly meant to swap her for the white privilege line.

Based. People mad at this also want you to clean up for wagies.

This really isn’t a good movie on a rewatch. It’s lacking a heart, it’s lacking a Bruce and Alfred relationship (even BvS did this better and that movie sucks), the action scenes are really bad, like the Nolan movies, just awkward stiff fighting, stupid scenes like flying into a bridge at 200 mph and just walking it off, flooding the city like some avengers movies, incels being the real villains of the movie while riddler is in jail.

america has black and white people but chuds get upset when you put black and white people in american movies. never understood that, if you didn’t want black people in your America or movies then get a time machine and pick your own cotton. literally problem solved. their hatred is a consequence of their lazy forefathers

Catwoman directly states Bruce has white privilege to his face, and he’s juxtaposed to both her (an inner city black woman resorting to crime as a last resort) and the Riddler (a fellow white guy who went down the path of Anon Babble inceldom). All of the villains are white. They race swapped Gordon to a black guy to be careful not to make him a good white cop. You see what you see because you’re a libshit, simple as.

then get a time machine and pick your own cotton

Yep. I will always say, we made the biggest mistake of all time for bringing slaves here. And not for some moral reason, just because it brough them here and ruined our future.

nah black catwoman has existed since the 60’s with eartha kitt. I wonder if chuds have a cut off or mental block for any history past 2016. like, do they think humanity collectively started when everyone got angry through their screens?

Catwoman directly states Bruce has white privilege to his face

And he rebukes her and she kisses him. He dominates her.

There’s nothing wrong with black people in movies, it’s black people playing white characters and white people being made to be bad is what’s the problem

it’s because white people are lazy. simple as

Yes they cast a Black Gordon. Is that a theme of the film? Are you actually saying black actors being cast is a theme of the film?

then go back in time to 1967 and stop eartha kitt from being cast as catwoman

Ignoring every point I’m making and being an obtuse faggot

They didn’t want a cop to be an honorable white man, they race swapped him to a black guy for this reason. The themes of race pertain to Bruce (a disaffected angry white incel) having to go out into the world and interact with noble blackswapped characters to learn to not be like The Riddler. Very simple premise.

They didn’t want a cop to be an honorable white man, they race swapped him to a black guy for this reason

Is that a theme? You keep saying race is a theme of the film, then you talk about casting and ulterior motives behind the scenes. I am not sure if you know what the film's themes are now.

I wish I could, she was hideous compared to Julie Newmar and it was just as gay and retard back then. It was a little more forgivable though since she never said Adam West had white privilege.

Black women love white men but still complain endlessly about them, he’s a virgin in the film also

how do you feel that most of the Gotham’s villiany and Batman’s rogues gallery largely consists of white people? joker? white. riddler? white? two-face? white. mr freeze? super white. clayface? white (but actually brown). which is to say, throughout most of the last eighty years, when someone enjoyed Batman storytelling, the bad guys were always white. and now that we make the occasional bad guy black, like killer croc or catwoman, this is somehow… bad? make it make sense culture warrior

The only people I know who praised this were zoomers who never watched the Nolan movies.

Black women love white men but still complain endlessly about them

So we live rent free in their heads

he’s a virgin in the film also

based

The themes of race pertain to Bruce (a disaffected angry white incel) having to go out into the world and interact with noble blackswapped characters to learn to not be like The Riddler. Very simple premise.

Put it even simpler, as simple as I can;

If you’re an angry white guy, don’t be, because you’re one step away from being a Anon Babble terrorist.

So again, where you see race I see mental health. Being white does not make one a murderer, only insane people would think that, so it's more about being a shut in and not trusting other people.

This really isn’t a good movie on a rewatch

It wasn't good on a first watch either.

Batman’s rogues gallery being white is fine, they’re exceptional characters. But when you want to cast Gotham as modern day NYC (which the movie did) and have it be gritty and realistic (which it tried to do) having racing gangs of…white people…playing the knockout game…or having white collar crime and corruption be only…white…is purposefully done for a woke reason. New Yorks upper level crime is almost entirely black corrupt politicians and judges and white gangs in that regard don’t exist. I don’t think the super powered villains being white is bad no.

this may surprise you here in the [CURRENT YEAR] of our lord 2025 but in 1967 eartha kitt was famously fuckable. notably fuckable. it’s why she was cast. and removed from your culture war social media bullshit, N O O N E C A R E D she was catwoman. probably because, ironically, she was cast as a bad guy, and the greatest thief in the dc universe. your racist 60’s post Jim Crow grandad actually seethed less than (You) at black people in their Anon Babble. I earnestly find that fascinating

Gunn's just a stepping stone for getting Nolan back
Zaslav wants Batman Beyond as DC's "hail Mary"

I see race because, again you obtuse faggot, the movie brandished race as a thematic element. Gothams true savior is a progressive black woman named B. Real for fucks sake.

Gotham's symbol of hope at the end is Batman, that is his whole character arc. You must just focus on what people look like in movies. You literally didn't get it. lol

Eartha Kitt being cast as Catwoman 100 years ago isn’t the same as a black woman playing her today talking about white privilege you fucking retard

so the white supervillains who murder school busses full of children are cool, but the white blue collar criminals who steal 401ks are bad?

Gothams symbol of hope is literally the mayor they just elected, did you watch the movie? His ending monologue even has her in it talking to the people of Gotham lmao I swear to god arguing with people like you has to be a troll of some sort. Batman is a tool in B. Reals arsenal, she is seen as the true solution.

Hey I don't like every single part of the movie. I wish the mayor wasn't a black woman, that's annoying. I'm just not as brain damaged as you, thankfully.

Are you the same obtuse faggot samefagging? You ignored my entire point again. The comics are not portrayed in gritty realism like the movie was pretending to do.

If Batman was real you’d hate him because he’d be fighting almost entirely black people both in white collar and blue collar city crime.

Whatever you are trying to say here is retarded.

You’re right

Thanks for conceding

or maybe you’re more racist than racists in 1967 because your brain has rotted from shitposting on chan. which your granddaddy never had the white privileged of doomscrolling

You're close, but off the mark. And off in a bad way.

You have provided no argument against any point I made. Saying “you’re wrong just…because!” Isn’t an argument. The movie was very clearly pushing modern day, racial politics. Again, I accept your concession.

Oh so you’re not white, no wonder you like raceswaps. YOU WAS KANGS!

The comics are not portrayed in gritty realism like the movie was pretending to do.

selina kyle was retconned into an actual prostitute by frank miller before you were likely born, culture warrior. Gotham city has literally always been a crime infested reflection of new york city, it’s why it’s called gotham city. are you literally learning this now? actual children know this. in fact, just for fun, detective comics #27, Batman’s first appearance, featured artwork of coloured rooftops and cityscape which are clearly the roof of edgar allen poe’s house in poe park, in the Bronx, in new york citaaaaaay. this is also the same park finger and kane sat in when discussing batman, as kane and finger only lived blocks away from this park.

Movie has some of the strongest most consistent anti white subtext I've ever seen. Reddit loves it, they rate it higher than Nolans trilogy.

how does it feel to be more racist than your granddaddy, but you can’t lynch anyone anymore, so instead you’re forced to bitch about it on Anon Babble? fuck that must be so frustrating actually, geeze

I hate white people so much. Empty, pathetic creatures.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm happy it's dead.

still no sequel and no hype

You're kidding, right?

The Penguin was fucking amazing and it's only been delayed due to external factors.

Typing like a literal reddit tier faggot

Is also black

Oh boy, well here’s my response again:

Batmans rogues gallery has to be almost entirely white because if it was actually realistic he’s be fighting mostly black people, both low tier and high tier crime. Also, back in the fucking 30s when the character was made, the mafia was the big crime problem, all white. Gotham is anachronistic, set in no distinct time period, and is largely fantastical in nature (if you read comics you’d know Gotham is cursed by a Mad god and is actually in New Jersey).

it says as it writes our language and uses our inventions.

I thank god every day I’m white and bot the color of shit

The script has been delayed by years. Not the film, just a completed script. Always a bad sign. I'm betting it never comes out.

In todays news, Batman has been CANCELLED after he beat up a black teenager brandishing a knife in an armed robbery

His villains are white for a reason, Laquishius

you’re clearly tangled in a logical web between white supervillians = good but black supervillians = bad but black people are bad so they should be criminals because criminals are bad and that’s good but race swapping is bad so white people being bad is good. it’s actually pretty cute to watch in real time

What’s cute is you being a literal fucking retard who can’t read. Here I’ll put it in terms OOGA BOOGAS can understand:

Batman comics are fantastical, not grounded in reality, and anachronistic so he fights the mafia and comics usually don’t raceswap

He fights mainly white people because a white man actually fighting proper crime statistics would be screeched about, hence even a “gritty realistic” take whitewashing inner city crime

It’s a paradox. Having one’s cake and eating it too. Hope this helps

The script has been delayed by years. Not the film, just a completed script. Always a bad sign. I'm betting it never comes out.

you're delusional.

oooooor you’re applying [CURRENT YEAR] chan ideology on comic book writing from the 1940’s and it just doesn’t work and instead of accepting the reality of just like, reality, you’re actually and literally seething and typing anger into your screen toward me to resolve the cognitive dissonance you’re failing resolute

There was a recent comic run where Batman sees a huge political riot. Everyone holding a sign and rioting is white. You know damn well why this is the case, you would not like Batman if Gotham was portrayed realistically.

to be fair when I watched the Jan 6 livestreams and ate my popcorn, I saw mostly whites too. rip ashli babbit (who is, in fact, white)

I still don’t understand what you don’t get, you’re actually so fucking stupid it’s insane. If a movie is claiming to take the fantastical character of Batman and make it a gritty, grounded, realist take on the character, the people he’s fighting should reflect that realism. But the problem is, they can’t do that, because if it was realistic he’d be fighting violent black street criminals and the corrupt black politicians of New York City.

You aren’t understanding the argument. Batman SHOULD NEVER BE PORTRAYED AS REALISTIC BECAUSE THEY CAN’T. The comics are not realistic, neither are the other Batman movies, it should never claim to be grounded in reality.

I didn’t realize the riots happened inside of major inner cities. Does Batman usually patrol the Capitol?

Then you’re saying Batman’s villains should be black. simple as

black joker
black riddler
black two face (came close with Batman 89)
black poison ivy
black bane
black catwoman (oh wait we did that twice)

okay okay. wait. you’re saying the supervillians stay white but the common criminal is black? um, okay? so the best most devious most murdering of criminals, the most evil of evil, the child murdering flesh eating monsters that is Batman’s rogues gallery, this is who white people are? they murder thousands upon thousands of gothamites. this is okay for white people to be?

hey man, you said political riot. there’s literally only been ONE (1) actual real political riot in modern american history

How fucking stupid can a person be man. I really don’t understand. Batman should stay in the comics, where people don’t question why everyone’s white, because Gothams crime isn’t based in reality.

If Batman is to be portrayed realistically, as in, a real person in the City of New York, there would be no fantastical superpowered villains to raceswap, and he’d be pulverizing black people every night while you called him a chud from the internet.

The George Floyd riots were politically motivated, as were much of the ANTIFA riots.

Filming is scheduled to begin at the end of 2025,[413] at Warner Bros. Studios Leavesden in England.[414] The untitled sequel is scheduled to be released in the United States on October 1, 2027.[409]

Batman movies shouldn’t be realistic and everyone should be white, yeah. The problem with the Batman is making it grounded. Even the Nolan films were not realistic.

the very act of putting a man in a batsuit and filming him with a camera is realistic. so you’re saying they shouldn’t make batman movies, at all? no batman movies? and no batman movies, because black people? that’s a pretty succinct underlining definition of Anon Babble itself, which is hilarious, and oddly comforting

I didn't like this movie and it had nothing to do with messaging. It was just a long and boring movie. Worst aspects were wooden performance from catwoman, unnecessary penguin stunt-casting with zero penguinness, boring two-note soundtrack which drove me nuts, the riddler stuff was weird, there was like a Twitch version of Anon Babble but an irl stream? Really confusing. Zero chemistry between batman and catwoman, felt bad for both of them when they had to kiss each other.

Really long movie with only two notes. Arrested development plot point about no one can speak spanish.

Also Rpats is a good actor and they just didn't give him anything. They had 3 hours. Him as emo Batman should have been kino.

Too much of this movie was too stupid.

You are arguing with idiots. Most people are idiots. Whites are sadly also, 'most people' and can be fed absolutely rank propaganda against them and they won't see it. They can't. You are trying to teach arithmetic to someone who can't count. Sadly we have to be red pilled step by step. The theme of The Batman was

all white people are bad inherently due to original sin of being white

all non whites are inherently good

for a white person to be free of their original sin they must

acknowledge the above framing

sacrifice their lives (time/money/work) to elevate the non whites

save themselves by allowing the newly empower non whites to save them from themselves (read from their whiteness which is ill gotten gain from victims)

The above is obvious when you actually pay attention to race in the film. Every single person of color is virtuous. Every one, even throw away one shots like the surgeon (black female). Even the only racially identifiable person of the first gang with the skull faces is black. They literally made it so you could see half his face (uninitiated member) see he is black and set him up as the one person in the group with a good conscience who DOESN'T want to beat up the poor asian man. He is the one guy who Batman doesn't beat to a pulp, because he is the good person in that scene. It's like this every time. EVERY single member of Riddlers gang is white. Movies are stuffed to the gills with racial diversity yet the gang that's trying to murder the ACTUAL savior of Gotham who is a black female, are all the same white guy. This is not a mistake. It's not incidental. Every corrupt person from Wayne senior down that are involved in the corruption regarding the money for orphanages that the Riddler goes after are white males. Just like Riddlers gang. Batman isn't the savior of Gotham, he is the savior of the black female mayor which redeems him of what Selena says to his face he is guilty of.

Holy shit. Are all blacks this retarded? Batman movies should be fantastical, LIKE THE COMICS. They should not be gritty neo-noirs that claim to be set in the real world that white wash inner city crime. Realistic and Batman should never be said in the same sentence unless the movie wants to accurately portray the demographic Batman would be fighting every night.

What’s funny is that people don’t realize they have to make the movie like this, because it would be “punching down” if it was really realistic.

Even the Nolan films were not realistic.

I saw Batman Begins in theaters and it was extremely good. Dark Knight was long and boring sorry heath your choices were bizarre. DKR was long and full of plot holes but the set pieces were fantastic, looked great in imax. Bane actually felt menacing.

There are still scenes from Batman Begins that I still rewatch just as something to think about. It came out before the context of cringe youtube motivation channels. A good training montage that isn't cheesy is really difficult.

Why can't we have both? I like gritty real batman and fun comic booky batman.

Also coincidentally there was literally no mention of race in all three films. There were multiracial gangs, Batman was world hopping to China and shit, and Lucius Fox was an incredible character. Funny how far we’ve fallen.

Why can’t we have both?

Holy fuck what is wrong with you? REREAD WHAT I WROTE

again, for fun, the very act of photographing a man in a bat suit is realistic. regardless of how fantastical you make him. and again, for fun, batman was created in detective comics #27 as gritty avatar in a realistic New York City, and again, for fun, his first appearance had him jumping on a literal rooftop in poe park. your problems with batman and race and black people apparently lead all the way back to february 19th of 1939. when kane first approached finger with the idea of batman. not that it matters. you’re obviously obsessed with black people. it’s okay, we all have our interests, and you are valid anon. I acknowledge (You). I just can’t imagine caring about black people this much

Black women love white men

Has to be a troll at this point, there’s no way anyone is this stupid unironically. You’ve ignored every point I’ve made, and are at this point willfully ignorant or just flat out retarded.

Black crime wasn’t happening the way it was now in 1929. The Italian mafia was what was happening. If Batman was invented today, he’d be fighting mainly violent blacks and migrants, you know, the crime demographics of today in nyc.

Ok reading back through the replies. You got dragged into a retard pit to fight with retards. Retards will win.

with all sincere and actual respect anon, you’re on Anon Babble seething about black people in movies. your opinion is not to be legitimately arbitrated but insulted solely for entertainment. always has been always will be. this is why (You) are here

Don't even have to go historical. When a movie bends over backwards to make it as racially diverse as possible and then curiously every single gun wielding thug in the entire production is...a white dude. Yeah. Case closed.

It’s ok if you’re black and mad at reality. I wonder if Batman would be reading FBI crime statistics worried about the dindu backlash he’d receive for stopping real crime

I digress but no anon not once ever has ever correctly deduced my race. not once ever. and when I finally let the chuds know which shade of brown I may or may not be, they just switch slurs, and it’s back to business as is usual. which is boooooring. anyway, your personal insults are cute, but what really gets (You)s, if you’re wondering, is insulting another opinion. just some friendly guidance if you’re going to culture war about black people in batman movies

Brown is brown, and you’re argument is retarded either way. You aren’t some epic troll, you’re a lost brown redditor who would hate an actually realistic Batman

race was not present in any themes of the film

KEK

just for fun, I will entertain your worldview. you want a realistic batman where he fights black criminals. BUT the supervillians have to stay white, because race swapping. SO, your ideal batman, is a Batman who DOES NOT fight established supervillians. and ONLY fights muggers and purse snatchers? and ideally, you’d want a batman movie with no supervillians, and only black street level thugs? just so I’m clear here, on what you’d find palpable in a “realistic” batman movie? no supervillians. just black drug dealers and the like?

another maudlin mr freeze story?

Jesus Christ you have to be some kind of third worlder Indian retard. This is my last reply to you.

I don’t want realistic Batman movies, because they can never be truly realistic. If they were truly realistic, people like you would cry about how he’s only fighting black thugs and illegal migrants in a realistic New York City setting.

I prefer Batman movies that are fantastical, or fantastical realism like Nolan.

I DONT WANT REALISTIC BATMAN MOVIES.

Batman can be truthful about inner city cr—ACK

but every batman movie is a realistic batman no matter what you do thus I am sincerely asking: what sort of batman movie would you make? can you answer this question? simply saying “fAnTaStIcAl” is not sufficient? are you actually intelligent enough to articulate this opinion? or are you the caricature of retardation one assumes when seething about black people in movies on Anon Babble?

The Nolan films were the perfect blend of realism and magic (hence magical realism). And no, them being live action isn’t realistic, no Batman movie besides The Batman claims to be grounded in reality.

Please white gang leader, please! Don't make me assault this innocent Asian man! As a Black youth, this could continue to propagate the unfounded myth of increasing Black on Asian violence in inner cities! And you, as a white male, would be a furthering the statistic!

it was boring
penguin was much better

there was magic in the Nolan movies? and your answer is “just make them like the Nolan movies”. you’re losing the plot and this is sadly getting boring.

I’m pretty sure you can’t fix a broken back with gypsy magic in a cave by punching it while hanging from a rope. Or harvest magical plants that make people see specifically their worst fears. Or have a man in a mask inhale a magical gas that makes him not feel pain. Or have a cape that stiffens with electricity. Or have a magical cell phone machine that can hack into everyones nokia phone for super surveillance. It also had a magical swarm of bats that chooses the next Batman. The Nolan movies were good because it had all the hokiness of the comics without any of the retarded super magic beings like poison ivy. It worked right in the middle. It had diverse, racial gangs. It had no race swaps to black people. It portrayed Batman as a modern day myth.

Reddit loves it, they rate it higher than Nolan's trilogy.

No surprises there.