does shaken make any difference stirred?
Does shaken make any difference stirred?
Yes they explain it in the movies
It’s makes it more watered down because James is a pussy ass nigga
Supposedly stirred is better, and the point of the line is to paint him as loutish, which 2% of the audience ever understood.
Wouldn't know I don't drink Martini's like some fag. Margarita Chad's run Anon Babble
shaken will leave some little bits of ice in the drink
not the best for presentation, but if you're in the sweltering heat of Jamaica investigating Dr. No and Crab Key, those little bits will be very refreshing
and then everybody else figured that was his signature drink instead of a drink for a specific time and place
it is this, exactly. no reputable bartender woule shake a martini unless specifically requested by the idiot customer. Might as well drink toilet water.
Do I look like a give a damn?
For me it’s whiskey sours
He prefers it garnished with a fat DICK as well.
I recently found out that the Martini cocktail has nothing to do with the historical Martini brand of liqueurs.
I find this information highly dubious though, since the company goes back to 1863
Rod report?
Yes.
So is he even pretending to be straight at this point?
It seems like hes overwhelmingly come out without officially coming out.
His last movie was a full blown gay porno where he sucked dick.
Margarita
Chad
First of all there is no reason to drink a vodka martini over a gin martini, vodka is a flavourless slav poverty drink. Gin cocktails shouldn't be shaken because it bruises the juniper. Shaking also may introduce small shards of ice and more air into your drink. A martini is supposed to be chilled but clean, that's why we don't just make it in the glass.
reminder that in Quantum of Solace he drinks Gordon’s vodka. GORDONS. actual hobo vodka that costs no more than $9.99 a 750ml. absolutely pathetic.
Something that's been totally lost about James Bond is that he's not a sophisticate. He's not fancy, he wouldn't know the first thing about formal manners, he's gauche ruffian in a suit.
For me it's the strong sophistication of the French 75
bruises the juniper
dumb fuddlore, the French 75 is a great drink
He's a huge food and drink snob in the books though
He talks about how to make the perfect watered-down bourbon more than he talks about the mission
money, fame, celebrity
it can all be yours
but you have to suck dick
It’s all so cartoonishly Jewish
No, in his case, he had to lick geriatric sushi pussy. The dick sucking was his pleasure.
Don't you use Martini in them? How are they not connected?
I like sidecars & white negronis
Doesn't he canonically have an aristocat upbringing?
On warm summer days like today I prefer the cuban beaner drink known as the mojito
Gordon's also makes Gin
no, it turns out, you can make martinis without Martini in them
Yes.
This is why Dalton will forever be the best Bond. His Bond is a full mission autist.
Gets colder faster, increases water content, aerates which causes some oxidation
he's gauche ruffian in a suit.
No he's not, he's the child of aristocrats and an aesthete about a bunch of things, especially food and drink
The fact that he's a brutal psychopath who is very good at being a human blunt instrument is meant to contrast with his genuinely deep knowledge of elite life
When I was growing up I always assumed it was some sexual entendre and tried to think of what shaken not stirred could mean in terms of sex, like maybe a vigorous session but not stirred like a more lazy man might do. Apparently I'm the only one who ever thought that lol.
You shake fruit cocktails and stir spirits. Shaking a martini fucks it up.
The author came up with the idea because he thought having Bond ask for something retarded would make him more interesting.
For me is the Manhattan. Vermouth and bitters not required.
Vermouth and bitters not required.
How did a dink that's 95% composed of a shitty spirit for poorfags become THE 'high class' cocktail in media?
Based.
I did bartending for a couple years, including a couple months at some fishing lodge accessible only by helicopter or boat. Very rich clientele.
That was when I learned about "burning" a martini glass before making the cocktail. It's done by swishing a single drop of top shelf whiskey in glass then tossing it out. Had no idea if it even makes a difference.
I don’t know anon. To me the question is more: why does Hollywood promote the consumption of addictive poison? I guess we’ll never know
Thanks. That answers my question, anon.
Happy to help fellow autistbro. Water is always the superior beverage
The answer is unironically Prohibition. Gin's easy to make, so a lot of the time that's what there was. Martinis were the bartender's way to make gin fancier, so a lot of well-heeled people in the 1920s drank a lot of martinis when there was no whiskey around.
What is gin other than just cheap grain alcohol flavoured with juniper berries? Couldn’t they have just left it like vodka?
Couldn’t they have just left it like vodka?
Yeah, but juniper masks a lot of telltales for half-ass distilling, which I'm pretty sure is why gin was invented in the first place. Gin can have fusel oil concentrations that'll get your bathtub vodka spat in your face because the juniper's there. Also people like the flavor even in good gin.
Don’t the fusel oils taste extra bad because they’re extra poisonous?
Don’t the fusel oils taste extra bad because they’re extra poisonous?
Yes, ditto methanol and all the other stuff you get from Al Capone's high quality bathtub distillery, because the mob is going for volume above quality. It was rare to get honest to god poisoned by it but the hangovers from shit booze are much much worse.
Anyway, the tongue and nose do their jobs and say "Hey! That's probably something you shouldn't be putting in our body" but not if there's a bunch of juniper flavoring masking it.
My tongue and my nose do that for all distilled spirits. The profuse vomiting after over-consumption is also a bit of a giveaway
Martinis are more Chad than limeaid, Juan. Margaritas are great, but not as manly.
My tongue and my nose do that for all distilled spirits.
That's just being a baby 2bh
The profuse vomiting after over-consumption is also a bit of a giveaway
Over-consumption is the word there. You are fully capable of drinking enough water to make you very sick or kill you
en.wikipedia.org
You're not going to die if you pour half an inch of this into a tumbler and sip it over 20 minutes
the consumption of addictive poison
Water is always the superior beverage
Where do you live where it's THAT cheap?
It comes in a glass bottle at least.
NTA but I think I saw it online for $11 somewhere
It is kind of hilarious to think that the Monte Carlo Casino would have fucking Gordon's behind the bar. My bartender still hates Craig for the decade he had to spend saying "no we do not have Gordon's" to trendy drinklets wanting Le Bond Cocktail
I swore I read about Gordon's in a book from before I was of age. I looked it up and apparently it was Hemingway's favorite.
There might have been a dip in quality over time. My brother in law is a cocktail enthusiast and has a little classic recipe book for cocktails by fucking Mr. Boston, the real hobo shit
I like martinis but I think the art of making them is pure gaslighting. you go to a bar and you get a little show, and that ceremony eases the pain of spending $15 for $2.50 worth of liquor
you can just keep gin in the freezer and plop some vermouth in. chemically identical to a stirred martini
Don't take a bunch of bullshit that Anon Babble says to be reality, everyone doesn't drink and is under 21 here.
I swore I read about Gordon's in a book from before I was of age. I looked it up and apparently it was Hemingway's favorite.
I mean, Hemingway was just some guy. Why would he be authoritative on gin?
The opposite retard
Shaking it quickly mixes the drink so that it can be strained without the ice diluting the drink like it would with stirring. Bond is an alcoholic who wants his martini strong.
it’s available in glass or PET “lightweight traveler” bottles. either way Gordon’s on a private jet or in an exclusive casino kills suspension of disbelief. i can go along with convoluted supervillain plans all day, even craig playing a non-homo. the gordon’s is too far.
The author came up with the idea because he thought having Bond ask for something retarded would make him more interesting.
it works. Walking into a venue like you own the place and asking for something nobody's ever heard of is a good way to get attention.
youtube.com
of course, why a secret agent would attention is a different discussion. By all accounts, 007 is the worst spy ever conceived
A glass of straight jack with one rock in the cold months.
A caipirinha (or mojito) during summer. Sometimes even piña colada.
Why would he be authoritative on gin?
Experience
I looked it up and apparently it was Hemingway's favorite.
Hemingway was an afficionado of all sorts of rotgut though, one of his favorite pastimes was getting into drinking competitions in random dive bars. RIP to a real one
By all accounts, 007 is the worst spy ever conceived
Tbf he's supposed to be an assassin, not a spy. And when he was ordering his complicated martini he was supposed to be posing as an extremely wealthy gambler at an elite tournament, and those guys do tend to have very specific drink orders
Well why didn't you just tell us what the movies say, nerd?
Based
You think maybe theater kids are just gay?
Make me a double bacon whopper, but put the bread on the inside
I'll the striploin, extra well done. And send over your ketchup sommelier.
"I've never seen someone make a Michelin-starred chef cry before!"
"When I want tendies I GET tendies."
Walking into a venue like you own the place and asking for something nobody's ever heard of is a good way to get attention.
is this the thread?
going to crack beer #1 after i finish this iced coffee. recommend me a kino to watch. i recently watched The Matador with our architecht friend Pierce, I liked it a lot
There is absolutely no way it makes a difference other than on a psychological level.
Oblivion
Mojito is such a kino drink. The most refreshing thing I've ever had which filters lightweights consistently.
He prefers them watered down so he doesn't get drunk on the job
I'm yet to hear any snob actually explain how you can bruise a liquid. The only explanation I've heard is that making the drink too cold dulls the flavor, but I really think the temperature by which someone consumes something is purely down to personal taste. I instantly discard the opinion of anybody who regurgitates this line.
Drink 30mls of straight vodka
Or
Drink 30mls of vodka with 5mls of water
Still consumed the same amount of alcohol, and that tiny bit of ice is not enough to impact how dehydrated it makes him.
No
I'm yet to hear any snob actually explain how you can bruise a liquid.
NTA but bruising in the context of bartending means fucking up an ingredient in many possible ways, whether from aerating, freezing, crushing, muddling etc, in a way that changes its taste, appearance, or texture in an unintended or undesired way. Like if you've got a drink that has berries in it, and the bartender is a gorilla who shakes it hard and all the berries get smashed into pulp - he bruised it, that's not how the drink's supposed to be.
For stuff like martinis, shaking liquor in ice chills it, aerates it, dilutes it, and mixes it with ice crystals - if you pour that into a glass, that liquid will look and taste a lot different than a glass of the same liquor, but just chilled in the freezer or whatever and poured into a glass. Shaken gin has a lot less juniper flavor than straight gin, hence "bruising the juniper."
it waters the drink down more when you shake it because the ice gets broken up more so it will melt quicker. I think there is also supposed to be some difference in terms of taste or something if you use a really shitty vodka but I think when I read that it was talking about oils or something which shouldn't really be a thing in vodka. vodka should just be alcohol and some sugars in water. you can use the alcohol in vodka to extract oil soluble chemicals, hence adding vodka to tomato sauce, there shouldn't be oil in vodka
isn't it just gin and vermouth?
I recently found out that the Martini cocktail has nothing to do with the historical Martini brand of liqueurs.
Yes it does, it's a gin Martinez traditionally made with Martini dry vermouth, hence Martini
just mash some leaves in my drink thanks
there are people who drink shit that isn't a moscow mule
its this a rattle snake, rum and cock or just beer or cider
dude copper mug lmao