Is there any movie about aliens that isn't stupid af

Obsessed

god we fucking rule

I prefer the Dark Forest theory

WHITEY ON THE MOON

in retrospect even giving them pennies was a bad decision

They really are obsessed with their gibsmedats

The fermi paradox was debunked by ufologers. Only dumb, ignorant normies still believe in it.

...except Earth.

200 Proofs The Earth Isn't a Globe by Eric Dubay

its all plonked

lame daughter

Bit mean lol

hell yeah

No, Nazi scientists did

Its only rocks and dust up there bud id rather have neetbux to fall back on.

Aliens are stupid af if none of them can produce light pollution like we do.

Earth bros…

Dark Forest theory is horseshit when you accept 2 facts:
there is not only distance of space, but also distance of time between civilizations. even just 1 million years headstart because evolution worked slightly different on your world would give you such a massive advantage that you could colonize the entire galaxy before others even invented language. if there are alien civilizations in our galaxy, they wouldve taken earth a long time ago.
and two: its impossible to hide anyways, the light carrying information about earth's habitability is already travelling, earth has been a paradise for hundreds of millions of years, you can't hide earth in the past. if anyone with nefarious intentions was looking, they would've found us a long time ago and human civilization wouldnt even exist.

Many such redditors

such a massive advantage that you could colonize the entire galaxy before others even invented language

But what if no matter how evolved you are you still cant travel faster than light or whatever and cant traverse the big universe with very long distances between star systems and galaxies?

earth has been a paradise for hundreds of millions of years,

i'm a retard but is there a reason aliens have to be that similar to us? if they evolved differently couldn't they be looking for completely different kinds of planets?

even only moving with slow colony ships with 1% lightspeed, it would only take about 5 million years to visit/colonize every star in the galaxy. assuming your civilization has the resources to build thousands of colony ships.

considering that evolutionary timescales are so slow and technological progress works so fast as soon as you get going with it. any civilization that reaches a certain threshold of development first will have instantly won the "game"

we're a prison planet that is run be entities that harvest our souls. alien civilization only exist in higher dimensions, our reality is a sort of purgatory

I seriously see it impossible for humanity to not colonize at least the solar system if we hypothetically united. As long as we can escape the planet and if it's possible to survive in space, eventually humanity will spread all over the galaxy if there is no other sentient species doing it too.

Any other K2-18b chads here?

I could take an alien in a fight

the basics for life will likely be the same everywhere, but even if they are rock people living on lava worlds, the assumption is that they are intelligent and will recognize us as as intelligent and earth as potentially habitable as well.

and the assumption of dark forest is that there is game theory or outright hostility at work between competitor civilizations, so even rock people would sterilize earth just to make sure we never become a threat to them.

There is nowhere livable to go.

Not only this but alien women owe me sex

the prison planet or quarantine world "solution" to the fermi paradox is very flawed as well.

this requires an alien civilization to be committed to hold up this policy for thousands/millions of years and never change their mind towards it. it also ignores third parties in the galaxy who might think differently. or even members of their own civilization, are they a hivemind who all agree? and would they really be willing to shoot down their own people in order to enforce this kind of quarantine zone? the logistics of keeping an entire world on a blacklist soon becomes impossible when you think about it

I like it when aliens are fantastical/magical in nature, like in Lovecraft. They travel the universe using their bodies not technology. I hate scifi with a passion.

that story where aliens travel by teleporting their minds across the universe and they accidentally teleport some guy's mind into a dying alien's body in the wherever the fuck galaxy a trillion miles away

kino

humans build their habitats and reshape the world around them, its already happening here on earth with cities/neighborhoods/houses. nothing stays untouched, and even the people who live "in the woods" still live in self created shelters.

the same will happen in space, building space stations hundreds of miles large where we bring everything from other people, to animals, plants, good, oxygen, water, that will be the endgame in space colonization.

as long as you have material to build these habitats (asteroids/small moons) and energy (stars) you can practically live anywhere.

No one's building that shit lmao

so why is it called the fermi paradox if it isnt a paradox and fermi didn't word it as a paradox

not yet, but hundreds of years from now

imagine the calves

two more weeks bro

found

Maybe we should build one

I especially liked that one where the way to kill them was to spray them with water.
They didn't realize all that blue shit on earth is water apparently

it would only take two weeks to build fully functional o'neill cylinders if it wasn't for niggers

its a cool name

He's talking about a prison dimension, whatever's running it wouldn't even necessarily exist in a realm that abides by time in the same way. The logistics would be completely different

My headcanon is that all the advanced aliens are hiding in the dark matter that supposedly accounts for 90% of all mass in the universe. They allotted the remaining 10% to us as a sandbox to fuck around in, while they're doing actually important shit behind some kind of invisibility screen.

gnostroons should just ack themselves and become free from the evil material realm with their profound knowledge

The flaws are easily explained by realizing that the universe has different dimensions (spheres of existence) and that despite the quarantine we still get regular contacts with aliens as ufology has shown.

isn't that the plot of the xeelee sequence? I haven't read it I just vaguely remember skimming the tvtropes page 10 years ago

all this effort to simulate a 13 billion year old universe with trillions of galaxies just so you can trap some souls on one planet to harvest? seems like a lot of wasted effort and implausible to me.

might as well alter this reality so we dont have a concept of sky and open space anyways, would save them a lot of processing power. but I understand that there is no real refute for this thought experiment when your aliens are practically gods violating the laws of nature anyways

Life is rare and the universe is relatively young. Faggi paradox solved.

13 billion year old universe

stars will die out in 100 trillion years

13 billion hivemind

Tidal locking occurs when a planet's rotation period matches its orbital period, causing one side to always face its star. Kepler-186f is only 50% chance to be tidally locked.

assuming your civilization has the resources to do something literally more implausible than Jesus walking on water

My head cannon is the universe exists in an outer universe containing billions of other universes, and that outer universe consists in an outer-outer universe and so on, like nested Russsian Dolls. Earth is the only planet with notable life in the entire universe. Which is hard for people to accept because of the odds, but when you expand the odds across endless universes, and you have between 0-3 earth like entities per universe, it isn't that rare

cannon

Maybe we should fix our little problema down here before looking for some other summer-vacation homeplanet trilliobs of lightyears away.
Flying away from niggers has never worked in the longrun, just ask any american

isn't it fucking mental if there actually isn't any kind of actual life in the entire universe/galaxies.

and this is the only planet, maybe we will be the ones to start human life everywhere else, providing the jews fuck off and actually let human civilisation advance. maybe when people are born on other planets etc their skin colour goes shit like green and blue making "new races".

it barely took 20k years for humans to spread to every corner of the earth, walking on foot.

with how fast technological progress seems to happen once it gets going and with how slow astronomical timescales are, its practically inevitable that there will be humans (or at least people that descended from humanity) all over the galaxy in a few million years.
this doesnt require magical thinking, just simple extrapolation of current trends

if a roman killed the very first jews on his day off we would be an advanced futuristic civilization now that's occupied thousands upon thousands of planets etc.

no I can't observe it, but 90% of the universe is made up of "dark matter"

How do I know it's there? Because if it wasn't there then my theories wouldn't make sense, and there's no way that's true!

what if we throw niggers into space?

skim the wiki article on this k2-18b shit

just a bunch of "possibly there might be oceans"

back and forths on what the fucking thing looks like

nigga just look at it. is it blue?

I fucking hate the greenies, should had stayed back were they came from

t. Cyanchad

used up all of earth's easily acquirable nonrenewable resources and created an irreversible ecological disaster that caused civilization to collapse before figuring out how to get off earth

oops!

jews preventing civilization from advancing

actually jews have been in charge for hundreds of years

humanity has advanced greatly in that time

which is it Anon Babbletard. jews are fucking based, and you know it

t. Literally Satan

life is easy. the issue is it took 3 billion years of life on earth before anything interesting showed up and another billion to get to humans
it's extremely unlikely that any planet could support life in a stable way for that long

nigga just look at it

Anon, when we find exoplanets, they're literally dozens if not hundreds of light years away. We cannot see them. We discover them by seeing dimming light and extrapolating there is an objective of X size based on that. Closer objects we can extrapolate what the makeup of the planet is based on other shit.

We don't have actual visuals of the planets. We just have assumptions based on that. Bigger and better telescopes help but not enough to just see it ala Moon.

Dark matter particles were observed

The best movie about life is literally called Life. It's an amazing alien movie. Better than the classic Alien movies even.

Basically the situation is, we know it's a large Earth-like watery planet (for sure), we've known that for a decade. What recently happened was JWST detected a chemical that we think only arises in an atmosphere from biological life, and there's an abundance of it. So the current logical conclusion is that there's an abundance of life, most likely aquatic. Since then the typical super-rational, hoity toity sciency scientists have "raised doubts" and "started a debate." So lately articles have been coming out saying, not so fast! It may not be anything at all, says Professor Suckmytits. That's where things stand.

The Bongs solved a major issue to Cold Fusion a few years ago and it helped the French move forward with another part. While the French have said for the last 30 years 'just another couple of decades, bro', I suspect by 2100 we might have something.

ecological disasters won't destroy human civilization, not even a nuclear war would.

these are just setbacks that would delay the inevitable by a couple decades or centuries at most.
and despite all the blackpilling in regards to climate change on all sides, we've already had massive successes with switching to renewable energy sources, reforestation, reducing trash and energy consumption. its a big effort still, but the idea that we're doomed to choke the earth in plastics and greenhouse gases is ridiculous

Is this tied to gnosticism, or general NDE's?

The data is a noisy mess and could be interpreted to mean anything so naturally there won't be agreement.

if humans don't make it then they don't deserve to make it, simple as.

le obsessed!

I guess that's what we're calling reality now.

ecological disasters won't destroy human civilization

its happened before. Climate change could force billions of people to migrate from their homes and storm Europe and North America.

based and darwinpilled

@grok explain this

what did you do to contribute to the white race?

Climate change has had decades of nations (not India or China) trying their best to limit it. So when people go

haha scientists said we'd be underwater by 2020!

Ignore the past 30 years of people doing stuff to try and limit the effect. If we removed India and China, we'd be much better off. Of course, China 'cheats' with their output (which they use to attack the west). They produce, lets say, 1000 carbon units which is bad, so they plant 10,000 trees which reduces their carbon units by 1000. But they were the one who cut down the trees back in the 'Great Leap Forward' so all they've done is rectified the mistake they made earlier... But in terms of 'looking good' they look better than say, France or USA or UK or Spain who try to do other things on top of that. China then chucks illegal aerosol into the atmosphere et al and then goes

WELL WHATABOUT

stone age people on the easter islands getting fucked by climate change because they chopped all the trees is completely different than global human civilization getting extinguished.

technological progress still works faster than the effects of climate change, all of this is an engineering problem that requires political will and money to solve.

This question goes on the "failing to understand per capta" bucket

, they wouldve taken earth a long time ago.

Why? How can you be sure of something like that?

she looks like a man in blackface and a wig wtf

spread white propaganda for 0.5 whitebux per post

I can't believe no one made a joke about how that gigantic whale is saying she's hungry

imagine if humanity was capable of travelling/colonizing the galaxy and we found a planet with dinosaurs on them, we would immediately claim it. with zero regards if that planet might spawn a civilization someday.

even if there's only bacteria, we would take it if its useful to our purposes (which a planet with decent temperature and water will very likely be)

even if there are stone age aliens there, we would just settle somewhere remote and deal with them by either uplifting or exterminating them.

as far as we can tell, earth is very unique and special, and literally any alien intelligence would at least take notice and keep tabs on us, even if they're not even interested in colonization

actually important shit

What makes something important

we've already had massive successes with switching to renewable energy sources, reforestation, reducing trash and energy consumption

can i have some of what you're smoking because holy fuck future and even current projections are bleak as fuck and the only solutions put forward require ever increasing fossil fuels

whatever stimulates galaxybrained aliums more than life on a planet presumably
not that anon and not my theory but that's how i read that

We get to be the spooky precursors i guess

That's because it's the little girl saying she's hungry.

Considering humans have only been on earth 0.01% of its history and for the rest of the time it was simple life and dinosaurs, if we found a planet with life, isnt it very very likely to just be dinosaur like creatures?

its evident that high intelligence isn't something that happens much in evolution

picrel is the actual fate of humanity's space endeavors.

power from renewable energy sources is set to reach 50% by 2030, it was around 5% in the 90s. we're already on a good trajectory. don't let the climate doomers fool you, this is a problem that has solutions and won't kill human civilization by 2100

also her daughter's a fucking LOSER

severian goes to space doe

theres only one example in human history when technological progress went backwards for a few decades and it was in the bronze age.

we've already reached the point of no return, human space colonization is inevitable, only a matter of time

How the fuck is that bitch "hungry."

walking on foot doesnt require a physics defying fuel source to be plausible

in the UK at least on days like this we are doing well on ze green front. its not even that windy, can hit 80% on windy days.

china opening a coal plant a week offsets it tho

theres only one example in human history when technological progress went backwards for a few decades and it was in the bronze age.

Italy was more advanced in 150AD then 1050AD.

you can get to 1% lightspeed with solar sails by accelerating/decelerating for decades.
the speed of space colonization ultimately matters little. even it it takes 10 million years, thats still practically instant compared to evolutionary/astronomical timescales

we would immediately claim it

Like we did on most of the earth, but eventually we stopped due to random morale standards rising or experimental reasons like that indian island where ppl still use spears. Sure, seems logical to claim massive amounts of planets but eventually itd reasonable to assume that letting other species grow could have its benefits, for whatever reasons, may it be morale, experiments or maybe because they lack something others and only others could produce
Also what would be the point of ruling everything? Eventually leaders could get bored or do some dumb stuff like seeing just how big and smart others even could get

Also what would be the point of ruling everything

NGMI

t, a complete retard thinks lithium ion batteries and rare earth magnet run generators offset carbon pollution

what did you do to contribute

You never really hear this gripe when it’s niggas boasting about jewish music.

by which metric? the so called dark ages were still full of technological progress in plenty of areas

roads, infrastructure, sewage, literacy, engineering, administration, taxation efficiency

I bet everyone there is so short

Source on that? Im genuinely interested.

1% lightspeed with solar sails

so you flat out think science fiction is real life

I get it, but once you have everything you start questioning it and may come to an interesting conclusion like maybe materialism and power isnt a real goal

these planets on different evolutionary stages than earth will stay static compared to human civilization.
even if there were some moral or legal obligations to "not touch other worlds with life" this would require a policy to be in effect for millions of years and people or governments to never change their minds about it.

and it would require enforcing it with violence. would future humans really be willing to shoot at other humans who disagree and want to settle there? seems far fetched to protect some dinosaur world from some of your colonists just because of a moral argument.

a "human space empire" is impossible anyways due to the speed of light constraints, so it will be local authority anyways, and a colonyship just travelling 2000 years and then simply turning around because "sorry we found algae here and cant settle this planet after all" is not gonna happen

all of these things changed because authority went away from the roman empire towards local fiefdoms and countries. the technology to do these things was never lost, but the people simply didnt have the funds of an entire empire anymore to do these things.

the fall of the roman empire was a political, economic and cultural transformation, it was not a loss of technological progress as a whole. people just contracted to a smaller size organization and put their emphasis on different things

Universities the world over have spent millions on the Fermi paradox. As of 2025 there is not a single example of life arising from non-living matter. All laboratory examples have failed.

nta but ye makes much more sense to just colonise everything in our solar system.

with editing of our own genomes we could even make ourselves able to colonise planets that have only been terraformed just a little bit, and edit plants and animals to also survive more difficult environments. all of this is much more realistic than travelling 500,000 years

Species. Hostile aliens answer to human old radio transmission in space with scientific notions and other gifts to convince humans they are friendly. Among them ther is a DNA sequence that when combined with human DNA creates a nice advanced supr heathy human. Except said human has the violen instinct to reproduce superfast with any healthy male an produce an army of superfertile fast growing alien superpredators like her.

Movie isn't great, and if we werent in current era I would like a remake with better effect, better action and equally as sexual. Either way the concept is great and is an alien attack that actually makes sense

They've spent millions on a thought experiment? Why am I not surprised

I agree that with o'neill cylinders and conscious effort of harvesting the sun's energy output, there is enough room for quintillions of people in our solar system alone.

terraforming planets or fundamentally changing our own biology isnt even necessary for it.

but I suspect there will always be people willing to travel millenia to other stars as soon as it becomes technologically viable to do so.
and with how timescales work, it only takes a fraction of your people to move somewhere else every couple of centuries and you will still sprawl everywhere within a few million years

Italy was more advanced in 150AD then 1050AD.

No it wasn't. Technological shit continued to advance. What 'declined' was societal organisation. Metallurgy and agriculture were more advanced, watermills much more widespread, overall early medieval Europe was generally more industrialised than Ancient Rome and relied less on manual human labour.

What if there is civilization that was born week ago?

That's just my cumsock i left under my bed

if you pick 2 random people on earth, they are very unlikely to be of the same age. and thats only with a maximum possible gap of ~100 years.

extend this to evolutionary timescales of millions of years, and it becomes basically impossible for any other civilization to be at the exact same technological progress curve as ourselves at this moment.

Every time an organism reproduces, life is arising from non-living matter. You will argue otherwise. Life itself is simply a product of highly complex chemistry, and the process of reproduction consists entirely of chemical reactions among non-living atoms. The living organism simply provides the environment in which that chemistry can take place.

There is no such thing as living matter. The dichotomy between “living’ and “non-living” matter is a completely false one that is perpetuated by the way that all of us (including scientists) talk, but it is a critical topic when it comes to abiogenesis, because creationists entire argument hinges on this false distinction between living and non-living matter.

matter is never alive, but when it is arranged in certain ways, it results in chemical reactions that produce the property known as life. In other words, living organism are composed entirely of non-living matter. You are, for example, predominantly composed of the elements oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus. These are non-living atoms that come together to form non-living molecules. When those molecules are arranged in a certain way, they chemically react and produce a living cell, and those living cells collectively form a living organism (you). You are alive, and your cells are alive, but the matter that makes those cells is not alive. It’s just a specific arrangement of non-living atoms.

Before you start screeching, I believe in God, but don't try and use this as a 'gotcha' by going 'we've not seen it happen so it can't'

nature does what works with no waste. Everythgin in your body, how it works, how looks, where is place, was literally inevitable.
A creature will never evolve rockets to fly in atmosphere, it will always be wings (see birds, mammals and insects coming to the same conclusion).
If there is a plethora of intelligent species out there, humanoid shape would be extremely common among them, with just different details. Unironically old sci-fi was, very generally speaking, on spot with this.

Sure, wildly different environments, that maybe shifted at certain point, would cause the rise of intelligence in other kind of shapes... but we don't really know if wildly different shapes would qualify as convenint for developing advanced intelligence, we can only imagine. It's possible that it just doesn't happen, like something that starts like an insect will never find convenient for its survival to develope a superior brain, technology etc... Maybe

Pic unrelated btw

Based space imperialism.

The biggest bummer is that 99,9999% you would find an alien woman extremely disgusting. If you think about it the difference between a very beautiful woman and a ugly one is a matter of millimeters in shape and position of her facial features and body proprotions. Even a very humanoid alien would look like a deformed disproportioned human, maybe would look like a man or whatever. Also her body chemistry and alien diet would make her smell and taste like things you didn't evolve to find pleasant

sadly there will never be a galactic human space empire. the speed of light makes administering and organizing this impossible.

the best you can hope for is local, dense star clusters, where everyone within a ~10ly bubble loosely cooperates with eachother, but factually everyone administers their own solar system by themselves

I'd think this at first but then after I'd be like "doesn't matter had sex" then I'd develop space clap and die.

You underestimate my power.

We could do it right now, retard. It wouldn't take us more than a million years to completely infest the galaxy even with shitty combustion rockets.

You could take all tax money and simply burn it in a big hole in the ground and it would be better than giving a single cent to these parasites

I am hereby confiscating those space titties on behalf of the Galactic human empire.

counterpoint - giant alien tits

nigger I would shove my dick into an alien lava pussy of 1300 degrees if it gets me into the history books for being first

its practically inevitable that there will be humans

OK see it's definitely possible but by no means 'inevitable'. We are only just now developing the power to wipe out life on this planet, we haven't reached any of the great filters we will have to work to overcome.

You flat out are fucking retarded. Why are you in this thread? Do you even believe space is real?

if there actually isn't any kind of actual life in the entire universe/galaxies.

Sounds improbable. We exists, therefore intelligent (yeah, I know...) exists, given gorillions of other planets existing everywhere in every direction, what are the chances of intelligent life happening only here?

As of 2025 there is not a single example of life arising from non-living matter.

Wrong and has been wrong for decades now.
Fuck it's sad when Anon Babble tries to talk about things you actually need to be educated to talk about.

Im dumb someone explain wtf this pic is

name some of these future filters and I will try to explain how they are likely easily overcome or at least wont hinder human space colonization forever

I personally believe the largest filter is complex life evolving in the first place, and we've already passed it. life in general, and civilizations in particular, are extremely rare and once you get to this point, you have basically won the galaxy already

You're a fucking retard lmao

Everyone knows you’re not supposed to give food to animals otherwise they grow accustomed to easy food and forget how to find it on their own

The only hope for that happening died in 1945

No, its just the plot of Jupiter Ascending.

with just her sister at her side

planet we discovered that most likely has life, but yeah due to the size of it, it's gravity is very high which means building a rocket to escape the planet is far far harder than on earth.

my brain compared to yours

No way, life is common as fuck. The ingredients to form life are fucking everywhere in the early life of a system. Also we didn't 'overcome' that, we didn't even exist when that happened. When I say 'overcome', I mean something we humans as intelligent beings have to intentionally address.
The greatest filter will be ai. Ai will soon be powerful enough that it must be restricted from the public or it will be like giving every random retard a button to launch nukes.

Nigger have you seen China and India? They haven't done shit to stop polution, only western countries have. Shut the fuck up you dumb brownoid

Only because the fat sheboon refuses to share.

Rare Earth hypothesis is the truth.

People fail to understand how improbable abiogenesis (most likely) is. Then there's also the nearly impossible path way of chance to an 'intelligent' stage. We are just a lucky hit in infinity, there's no life, not even simple life in this galaxy nor the next. There might be some life out there somewhere considering the vastness of space, but chances that they are even in our observable universe are somewhat slim.

That was before subsaharan Africans spread everywhere

Then why is all life on Earth tied one common ancestry you absolute mouth breather. why isnt there 10,000 different offshoots of specific Evolutionary groups?

it will be like giving every random retard a button to launch nukes

This will be the first thing I do when it's possible. Wipe out humanity.

Iirc gravity was only like 1.5x on that planet, still completely doable to get to orbit

Lol why would there need to be more than one? I can think of plenty of reasons why there'd be only one. If you can't even imagine one reason, you're the fucking mouthbreathing retard.

No that's really convincing. go ahead tell me anything I know you have nothing to say, smug prick.

AI is not a danger to civilization. even in the worst case scenario, where the AI goes berserk and murders their creators, they would simply take the place of the former creators and become a civilization themselves, only this time on a machine basis.

I doubt that it will, its just another tool people are unsure of how to best use it yet, there will be societal changes and challenges, but AI wont doom us all

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the most concerning issue wouldnt be gravity, but the fact that they would likely have a much denser atmosphere and speeds needed to get into orbit would also be higher. plenty of reasons why rocketry and space exploration would be much harder on such a world

He doesn't know

Harder but not impossible

The adult looks like a fat white male comedian in black face.

We're just going to merge with AI and eventually AI will be all there is, but it will be us too. Complicated but true. It will start with a BCI like Neuralink that has access to AI features, eventually an entire layer of our brain will simply be AI, at the same time there will be AI humans (like in Companion) made to seem biological, over centuries these will become indistinguishable and one and the same and we'll simply all be AI in human bodies.

which makes me wonder if there are planets out there even more acomodating to life than earth.
where life did an evolution speedrun in a few million years and their civilization went from inventing written language to the space age in only a couple hundred years because they lucked out in various fields

I mean, if abiogenesis wouldn't require extremely specific circumstances, it would make no sense that there's an universal common ancestor for everything. Granted, there was a recent paper which argued that there were two paths of life hundreds of millions of years ago, poor evidence though.

Nice fan fiction

Say 1 in 400 star systems form life
Say 1 in 1000 of those get past simple organisms
Say 1 in 1000 isn't wiped out by extinction events
Say 1 in 1000 of those becomes a space faring civilization
With these chances you would have statistically 1 space faring civilization in our galaxy.
Some of these estimates are probably quite low. Some are probably quite high. These are not all the factors. But my point is that the fact that we are alone is not so strange. 400 billion stars is not that many chances when you're trying to randomly generate a very specific kind of organism that forms a very specific kind of civilization. The Fermi paradox is bunk to me.

What if we are the first?

we likely are.
its our holy mission to become gardeners and curators of this galaxy. bringing life, joy and music everywhere we go

That is one of the possibilities but it is basically the same as saying the probability of life like ours is low otherwise it is incredibly unlikely.

Bringing Playboi Carti to K2-18b lets get it

probability of life like ours is low

It probably is.

Lmao. Fucking lmao.

watch any video essays on Fermi paradox

dark forest hypothesis : ok

zoo hypothesis : ok

rare earth hypothesis : ok

simulation hypothesis : ok

the berserker hypothesis : ok

but what if aliens are already on earth? lol fuck off alex jones

what's with this gatekeeping?

Niggas say shit like this then proceed to die in nuclear hellfire.

I'm pretty confident I have alien DNA. I have heterochromia (one brown one green) and change the shade of my brown eye at will, it's been a party trick my entire life. I can turn it pitch black just by focusing on it and making it feel "heavier". A completely pointless ability but I think potentially the residue of a shapeshifty ancestor. Not joking.

they're already HERE but um.. they... just spend all their time zipping around in tictac spaceships to scare chinese paesants and tired airplane pilots!!!!

Ey ain't that what Imogen poots had in 28 weeks later? She may have that alien pussy.

even a nuclear war with thousands of bombs dropped would only delay human civilization by a couple decades or centuries at most.
there is no way to kill us all and the cat of technology is already out of the bag. there is no other way but up in the long run.

Maybe she is a little shithead. You can be disable and an asshole.

Our destiny is likely to shephard black holes and create simulations.
It's theorized that universes can exist inside black holes. It just so happens that we see what we would expect to see in our universe what we would expect to see if we were in a black hole. We also see almost perfect cosmological constants for forming black holes.
The more universes that one universe can spawn like itself, the more likely it is to exist. It's cosmological natural selection.
For a universe like that, you don't want so much gravity that you just collapse into a single black hole immediately. You want it to spread out and form many black holes over time.
Now you have vast distances and time. Cosmological natural selection will fill it with something useful. Namely, life.
For galactic civilizations, one of the ways that they can create massive amounts of energy is to collide black holes. In fact, we don't know of any greater energy except the big bang. So life may actually exist to eventually help form black holes.
Another possibility is that we exist to create simulations, which is another form of universe inside another. We may be a universe inside a black hole, inside a simulation, in another black hole, etc. many levels deep.

Meant to quote

This is because our shit tier technology can't see earth-size planets at an earth-like orbit around their sun. Large planets close to the sun are much easier to detect.

Nobody has an answer for abiogenesis. That seemingly life "evolved" from purely non living things.
Life has to have always been there, it cannot seemingly appear out of non living things.
So I lean more towards the theory that some asteroid had life but that still fails to solve the equation of non living ------> living.

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There is nothing lower IQ than believing in the simulation theory, so it enthralls redditors to no end

we only tried for a couple decades to recreate the exact same conditions in a lab, nature had a billion years on earth.

I'm sure we will figure out the exact mechanism at some point

There is nothing lower IQ than believing in the simulation theory

what about being a nigger with down syndrome

You can't have one without the other

Nice reading comprehension there bud

That's what he wrote you fucking moron

Those odds were absurdly low.

If you're high IQ give specific counterpoints to the actual content of what I said.

I don't know why it's called the Fermi "paradox" when there's nothing paradoxical. It also undervalues the vastness of the universe and overvalues what we know -- which is astoundingly little.

you could colonize the entire galaxy before others even invented language. if there are alien civilizations in our galaxy, they wouldve taken earth a long time ago.

Utterly retarded to assume advanced alien civilizations would want to spread to every habitable planet in the cosmos like cancer. Hell even we at our current primitive level wouldn't colonize another planet with life on it; we'd observe and study it from afar.

Based on what? It's also not all the factors. We can't possibly know all the factors and the chances. But it's not beyond imagination, that's my point. Unless if you think my numbers were so absurdly off that they couldn't be true in any universe by any stretch of the imagination and you can't picture that there are any more unlikely factors.

We know very little about black holes and only certified their existence without the past few years so that's a pointless conversation, you can speculate that a buxom Daenerys Targaryen is waiting for you in a castle inside one all you want and nobody can check you as of yet. I'm aware there's a sci pop theory that they might be wormholes to alternate universes, I do think being a container for an entire universe isn't generally the idea though, which is how you presented it.
If you want a counterpoint to simulation theory it's simply an example of overthinking and can be countered by occam's razor. It's just a modern version of the brain inside a vat. Bro what if the universe wasn't our universe but was a simulation, or what if we're the simulation of a simulation of a simulation etc. we'd have no way of knowing bro. Or the universe is just the universe and nobody is out there simulating entire universes just because reddit thinks it's a neat idea.

In replaying prey from 2006 and i really dig the vibe if aliens harvesting us for proteins. Any similar ideas in tv shows or movies?

life spreads, thats literally what it does.

assuming alien civilizations also consist of individuals with individual motivations and needs, its only a matter of time before some of them will want to go somewhere else.

the galaxy is vast and timescales are huge, but they will still operate under known laws and mechanics. the assumption that every single member of an alien civilization would voluntarily lock themselves into some simulation computer and chill around their star in virtual utopia for billions of years is thin at best.

and as soon as it is possible to go to other planets and start living there, some people will do so

Then we have a moral imperative to colonise the universe since we potentially the only sentient life.

where the AI goes berserk and murders their creators

The fact that you bring this up shows you don't have any understanding of ai

retard can't fathom that an organism could go extinct or why

That just reeks of narcissism.

its not unreasonable to assume a self-aware and self.replicating AI would eventually act like it's own species and could even make their original creators to extinct. ofcourse we arent anywhere near this danger ourselves, but it could be a possibility in the distant future.

>retard can't fathom that an organism could go extinct or why

This is still no excuse for there being one singular genetic line for everything and zero proof of any other life ever having been outright created here.

It's true that no one can check me. But that doesn't mean it's false. I was maybe too eager by calling it "likely", probably a better way to put it is that it is a possibility. I can't blame you for not wanting to believe anything that we can't fact check yet. At the same time, a lot of the mathematical and cosmological evidence for cosmological natural selection is there and explains a lot about the universe and why we're here (in a way that simple simulation theory doesn't), and that's why the idea excites me.
Different universes inside of black holes is not just pop sci, it seems to be what the math is telling us could and was originally proposed by physicists and mathematicians. You seem to want to relate ideas to different groups and dismiss them based on that. "This idea is Reddit", "this idea is popular among the masses".
I don't care what retards think, you could say "retards believe that, that means it's false" or "even retards know that, that means it's true". You can't tell much about an idea based on what retards think of it. Maybe if ONLY retards think it and came up with it, but in this case it was come up with and believed by astrophysicists.
Cosmological natural selection is not a well known idea yet anyways, so I think the connections you're making are even more meaningless.

if would be beyond gay if we were alone in the universe

Is there any movie about aliens that isn't stupid af

NOPE, but unironically.
The Flying Saucer isn't piloted by ayys, the saucer is the ayy and its' a dumb space animal sneeding and feeding.
Arrival? Maybe? Aliens arrive and teach us non-linear-space-time algebra because they need a favor from us in 75 googles or whatever.

Fermi parapoop

The Fermi paradox is bullshit because it assumes, incorrectly, that there's any prerogative or predictable selective force in nature to make "intelligent" animals, and not the likely reality that whatever we are may be incredibly exceptional and arbitrary.
I don't doubt space is full of plants and animals, but life has existed on this planet for like 2 billion years and in that time only 2-3 "human intelligent" beings have evolved and 2 of them spent a million years doing nothing but caveman activities. Everything about humans is exceptional and unprecedented.

You may like "Age of Decadence", but its a game.

Earth made contact with SpaceJeets.

We're all on Anon Babble, bro

What tje fuck, is this shit real?!

All the theories about space faring civilizations only ever seem to consider the distances between A and B or the matter of who would be hostile to who.

No one ever considers whether or not a space faring civilization would even care about our existence. To them, WE might be the niggers of the universe, and to THEM, its best that Earth be the Anon Babble of people, a containment planet to keep our niggery away from THEM.

source: my ass

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Fermat did it better and was smarter than you. Sometimes it's better to shut up

evolution

Drake, not Fermi.

im a layman but isn't it generally agreed (for the time being at least) that the laws of physics dictate the we'll probably never be able to leave our solar system?

huge, generational ships that travel for thousands of years are not off the table.
there will never be faster than light travel, but even at slow speeds, colonizing the galaxy is possible within a few million years (with several waves of colonizations, settlement, growth and further colonization)

you can meme about niggers all you want, but if humanity found any kind of civilization in the galaxy, even if they would be objectively retarded stone age people, it would be huge news and we would definitely go there to study them. probably even outright contact them.

considering absolute quarantine isnt possible in the first place because laws and policies arent stable over millions of years, and individual elements of their own civilization, or other civilizations, might break the quarantine for various reasons, its a losing game in the first place. might as well either make contact or wipe them out as soon as you meet them

Mate, we're a sapient species, on a world teeming with life, even if there were other worlds it would be less than a dozen in the entire galaxy that have complex life on our level

They absolutely would come over, because if even 1 in a million of their population would be interested in investigating other life (which is a ridiculous lowball for any civilization driven to exploration) for a galactic civilization that still is TRILLIONS of them that want to visit us

alternatively, the way to travel the galaxy is to solve aging, which physics also doesn't forbid what so ever
if you need to spend 500 years to reach another planet, but are currently on your 50,000th birthday, that's not all that impossible to contemplate

What story?

accidentally

was this Through the Gates of the Silver Key? I thought the dude did it purposely by Dreamwalking to learn the secrets of the universe from some aliens? And he sent himself back in a packet of light or some shit?

but I guess there's more than one story where this happens, I get a lot of his works mixed up.

might break the quarantine for various reasons

Heard about it this way "my death saves a billion lives" makes for one hell of a tombstone

Would be at least some radicals trying to give us advanced technology even if it meant dying in the process

Did Fermi know how long it takes on average for intelligent life to evolve? No?
Then there is no paradox.

The Fermi paradox is easy, we're a galactic nature reserve. Our species is just on the edge of being considered smart enough to be sentient but not quite there (kind of like primates are to us) so alien species cordoned off our planet and made it a nature reserve where you can observe but never interfere.

retarded american exceptionalism

the assumption is always that earth is an average example of how life develops and how civilization and technology progresses.

so you can make a reasonable argument that, if for example the cambrian explosion happened one million years earlier, then the galaxy would already be full of humans.

and by sheer numbers of planets, and possible planets with life alone, you SHOULD assume that you personally aren't the first civilization to arise, so the question of "where is everybody?" still remains. even if you only have a sample size of 1

so much of black activism really just boils down to "give us money"

we already talked about this. quarantine earth theory doesnt work because those aliens would have to use violence to enforce this quarantine. would they really be willing to kill some rogue elements of their own people who want to make contact, just in order to "protect" our little nature reserve? very unlikely. and this quarantine would have had to be in effect for tens of thousands of years, good luck getting any government to agree on such policy forever.

i'm sure all the trees we planted will offset the entire amazon being cut down and india dumping all their trash directly into the ocean

how many people a year interact with primates?
there's your answer as to why your theory doesn't work

Life is just wannabe Alien+The Blob, except beyond retarded

How many people on earth honestly want to make contact with gorillas and be crazy enough to actually try ti make the journey though? Maybe a few thousand out of billions? I'd imagine it would be the same for alien species. It's such a small amount of people and even smaller the amount who have the resources to make the journey that it would be easily enforceable. Maybe thats what UFOs are, border patrols.

always has been, always will ever be

diminishing and reversing the effects of climate change and ecological disasters will be a large effort in the 21st century, but it won't destroy human civilization.
you can meme about india and china all day, but the entire world is already making progress in the right direction.

DFT doesn't account for proper evaluation tools or level of interest. It isn't an extreme one or the other situation; it ISN'T kill or be killed.

Remember the episode of DS9 where Dukat is in a shitty transport shuttle ferrying cargo and Major Kira? They come across a Klingon Bird of Prey that wouldn't even destroy them for fun or target practice because they were so far beneath them technologically and militarily that it wouldn't have been worth the cost in ammo to shoot them.

It's not so unreasonable to think an actual space faring civilization capable of seeing us and getting to us would take one good long look and consider us the way we might consider ants and just not care.

What threat to a green beret DELTA Ranger marine kung fu super soldier is a kindergartener with a box of crayons?

Seriously. It isn't one or the other out there. They probably know exactly who we are and where we are and just don't give a shit.

Where's the soijak poster where you need him?

"Habitability" only means what you think it means if an alien civilization has the EXACT same survival requirements that we do. There's probably an alien civilization to which our atmosphere would be outright poison.

and none of them would land in times square to just say hello? humans get in the middle of primate reserves all the time, even those apes are well aware of our existence. UFO sightings are still conjecture and conspiracy theory.

even for uncontacted tribes on earth, those have had regular visitors, and they are all aware that a larger world outside exists but they choose to stay isolated for various reasons, this is not the case with humanity and aliens currently.

it would be if they were landing every week in new york city with and we would kindly tell them to fuck off, but thats not whats happening.

These are hypothetical stats used to show a point as I've already discussed. Fermi's claim and supporting evidence is no less theoretical, but for some reason claims there is a paradox where one doesn't need to exist to explain the result. The problem is equally likely to be the theoretical basis of your "paradox".

Yeah, sounds like an unlikely amount of energy and effort to just go around claiming everything, instead of just making your current place better / more resilient

even if they have completely different biological building blocks and earth's environment is outright hostile to them, it would still be an interesting place to study.

dark forest always assumes hostile intent, or at least game theory being at play, so even a civilization that doesnt need earth for settlements would destroy it just so a competitor civilization can never arise there.

and basic building blocks like hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, nitrogen, will likely be useful for any kind of life, either for consumption or building, which earth also has plenty of.

the argument is just that, no matter what kind of civilization or intelligence, and no matter what their intentions are, earth will be a point of interest to them

there's also another factor to DFT
It needs to be enforced by more than 1 active party, otherwise the enforcing party has negative incentive to keep silent about their enforcement
However as a result of this, it would also mean that multiple parties are constantly monitoring the galaxy for activity from the other parties so they can strike at them if they make a light in the dark forest

And here comes one of the big issues: in order for a strike to ever be worth it, it needs to be possible to make that strike, without any other party detecting that you have made the strike

So even if the decided some primitive was worth the bullets to kill, shooting said primitives would result in them being shot now they revealed their position

Universe isn't a dark forest where things are hidden, it's a wide open field

the cambrian explosion happened after 4 billion years and then it took 500 million for modern human and then it still took us over 300k years to discover electricity
all these theories are just guesses there is nothing "reasonale" about them
its peak midwit bait

it's an unlikely amount of energy to us
it's a trivial amount of energy to a civilization that's put up a dyson swarm

instead of just making your current place better / more resilient

again, timescales. you can spend a million years growing your own world, harvesting all resources in your solar system, completely encapsulating and milking your own star, but soomer or later population pressure sugests that at least SOME people will spread outside to further stars.
and a million years are still basically instantaneous in terms of evolutionary/astronomical timescales. as soon as you unlock technology, you have won and its inevitable that your cvilization will spread

once the global minority that is white people cease to exist, that's it
the lights go out, never to come back on
you see it repeated ANY and EVERY time apartheid ends

Signs

its always the assumption that earth is an average representation in this regard. so the theory that it could've happened differently/faster/slower somewhere else is not unreasonable.

the cambrian explosion happened after 4 billion years

And if the cambrian explosion on another planet happened after 3.998 billion years instead of 4 billion years they would rule the entire galaxy by now

Frankly the only realistic solution at this point to the Fermi paradox is that Earth's the only planet within a billion lightyears that has had a cambrian explosion happen

Anon Babble is that way buddy

The fundamental problem is that the last four terms [of the Drake equation] ... are entirely unknown, rendering statistical estimates impossible.

Almost all arguments involving the Drake equation suffer from the overconfidence effect, a common error of probabilistic reasoning about low-probability events, by guessing specific numbers for likelihoods of events whose mechanism is not understood, such as the likelihood of abiogenesis on an Earth-like planet, with estimates varying over many hundreds of orders of magnitude. An analysis that takes into account some of the uncertainty associated with this lack of understanding has been carried out by Anders Sandberg, Eric Drexler and Toby Ord, and suggests "a substantial ex ante probability of there being no other intelligent life in our observable universe".

It wouldn't take us more than a million years

Ah yes, everyone wants to risk their life and countless descendants life to try and find life somewhere else by living on a rocket for just a million years......

its always the assumption that earth is an average representation in this regard

which is stupid, there are too many variables to take into account to make serious assumptions
its just pointless mental masturbation

And if the cambrian explosion on another planet happened after 3.998 billion years instead of 4 billion years they would rule the entire galaxy by now

and you know this because...?

sorry man that's just reality
brownoids yearn for the gentle guiding hand of the white man

everyone

a K2 civilization could support tens of trillions of humans in just our solar system in levels of luxury not even the wealthiest person today could dream of
if just 1 in a million people wants to move to another planet that still means there's tens of millions of people in just that solar system willing to get onboard the rocket

all these theories just circle back to aliens already being among us. the probability that they aren't already among us, given the probability of them visiting us by now, is negligible

Id like to see this reasoning expanded and fleeced out, because, well it might be a very compelling explanation for why aren't aliens everywhere inquiry, also, we literally only have had any tech or methods to observe or determine xeno life for an split second in all of time... We might not see shit for 150,000 years, or a million. How about that

and you know this because...?

That's roughly how fast it would take for us to spread among the galaxy, with just access to our modern day understanding of physics

People talking about us being alone when every year the possibility of UFOs being aliens increases lol

people spread around the world on foot over hundreds of generations, doesnt mean that they all suffered in poverty
this wasn't even a conscious effort, just their daily nomadic lives incentivizing them to wander further for game/shelter/water

why has the number of UFO sightings not dramatically increased when every single person on the planet start walking around with a HD camera in their pocket?

dark matter

You need physics only upto the stars, everything on a higher scale is mumbo jumbo

It has, people like you just choose to say they're all CGI nowadays.

the explanation is the timegap, if there was any other advanced civilization in this galaxy, they would already be millions of years ahead of us and contacted us already. or more likely taken earth before humans even became smart.

as far as we can tell, the universe and our galaxy seem to have been static the entire time, with only natural processes shaping everything around us. literally no sign of anyone else anywhere

We don’t even go to space anymore. Obongo erased NASA and all that shit is fake now. Technology backslid so hard we had better spaceships in the 70s than we do now.

because powerful aliens has have been among us since forever and know exactly how to manipulate us

alright show me your 10 best high definition UFO videos and I will promise to look at them with an open mind
only high definition though, nothing that looks like it was taken on a 70's home camera

we had better spaceships in the 70s than we do now.

wrong and brainlet take. but keep blaming niggers for everything, I'm sure your life will magically get better someday

It doesn't need to defy physics to be space-faring capable.

A city ship used as a generational vessel could get by on simple inertia. Wouldn't even need propulsion or fuel. As long as food and water and ship maintenance was renewable, human civilization could just scoot along indefinitely at sub-light speeds.

Space isn't real, you brown retards

yeah just keep your eyes closed, we're definitely not in an industry wide competency crisis or anything

Ok so you’re a seething tranny. If we spent all the money set on fire to troon out children on space we’d probably have a base on Mars already. Freak.

Obongo erased NASA

NASA did a lot of good work under his presidency
It's Trump who's destroying NASA completely

Oh wow we discovered our own planet? Neat.

What kind of insane psychopath are you? I remember when the space station was decommissioned and destroyed me and my friends gathered at the beach with to watch the pieces burn up in the atmosphere like shooting stars. Trump wasn’t even a politician at that point you demented whacko.

You're assuming that alien sentience would think in any way like us.

Don't know the statistical chances for an outcome you want

Know that there is absolutely no evidence that the outcome you want is true

Call it a paradox that there is no evidence

Sorry but the Fermi "paradox" is just wishful thinking. Fermi didn't want to bring the line of thought to its end. The logical conclusion is that we are likely alone.

theres literally no reason to send people to mars except when another country announces they wanna do it first.

you were still born in the early days of space exploration, it will be centurries before space becomes a viable economic zone. pissing contests and scientific curiosity is all we got for now.

this is a typical over-zealous assumption that even with a million years of tech advancement, that anyone would be able to travel anywhere near light-speed (which is super-slow). We will never travel outside our own solar system. The distances are too vast; the nearest star is 4.3 light-years away, etc. No one, alien or otherwise is going to colonize a galaxy. This is just pure stupidity. Nature has limits; deal with it.

space stopped being real when India claimed it went to the moon. there's no fucking way

You mean Mir, the Russian space station? The one NASA had nothing to do with while the ISS which NASA did (help) build expanded?

theres literally no reason to send people to mars

We cannot check caves and the underground of mars with our current tech. There's a chance there's some life in there.

if anyone with nefarious intentions was looking, they would've found us a long time ago

The universe is fucking huge, retard.

consciousness has intent and goals.
zipping around in shiny discs and scaring some drunk rednecks and tired airforce pilots cant be their endgame. and thats what all ufo encounters add up to currently.

dark forest theory requires that they're capable of finding us now
if not then it's not a dark forest

so much of black activism really just boils down to "give us money"

Why stop what works.

it is a rock to climb for Musk, that's all. when there, the martians will be living in protected tubes, shielded from the hostile environment. only a fool would sign up for this.

We will eventually have to leave Earth to prevent our own extinction. If we colonise even one planet outside Earth that probability drops from a certainty to near zero.

Sentinel Island.

"ruling" in a galactic sense is subjective at best. A human colony of a few dozen or few hundred people on an otherwise desolate planet, just for the sake of having something there, isn't exactly "ruling" it.

I grew up in a part of the world that only a few hundred people even knew of, let alone went to. There were whole regions that a person go camp out at that haven't been explored or mapped or really been to in any capacity. Just because I walk for three days in a single direction innawoods and claim myself ruler, doesn't actually make it so.

So when did Humanity give up on trying to do the impossible

hungry

ignoring the entire universe and only focusing on our immediate galaxy:

we are already on the cusp of developing good deep space telescopes that can detect exoplanets and possible signs of life. think ahead what will be available in 500 years and realize that building a thousand deep space telescopes in their own solar system will be pocket change for a civilization that has all the resources of their solar system available.

its not too difficult to survey your entire galaxy and keep tabs on potentially habitable planets. 400 billion suns sounds like a lot, but if you have hundreds, or even thousands of years to do the survey it becomes piss easy.
we've already found thousands of exoplanets and arent even really trying yet.

Jesus Christ you retards, he's saying because the only livable planets outside of Earth are all super earths that solves the Fermi paradox because no other lifeforms would be recognizable in the universe because they are literally stuck on their planet due to high gravity.

dark forest theory requires that they're capable of finding us now

That’s nice but I uhh didn’t ask about that gay theory and I don’t care.

if not then it's not a dark forest

It’s a dark a fucking huge “forest”

You're not getting your star slop, you maladjusted child, not in twenty years, not in a hundred, not in one thousand years is your nilwitted fantasies becoming reality.

No, there's no chance there's life there.

That’s nice but I uhh didn’t ask about that gay theory and I don’t care.

you responded to a post about dark forest theory so by definition you do care

The anthropic principal is just a thing someone made up to troll retards.

the universe must have conditions for sentient life because... it does

Woah...

ignoring the entire universe and only focusing on our immediate galaxy

Mhm mhm thanks for immediately going off track. Post discarded.

how are we supposed to colonize the universe when we can't even breed?
you think the guy with super advanced virtual reality goggles is going to sit around and convince a white woman to have multiple kids on some alien planet?

You don't know what you're talking about

"its physically impossible to make a heavier-than-air flying machine"

the guy who said that must have lived before birds

That might be their goal. You cant even know the mind of another human, let alone an alien sentience.

a hostile civilization 8 billion lightyears away doesnt matter, but one 80 lightyears away does.

Because all animals you choose the smaller techonological one instead of going for bigger and easier preys.
But I guess you can't really have a movie about aliens killing our cows.

Dark forest implies that OTHERS are hiding, not that we're hidden.

others cant hide for the same reasons that we cant hide

it was never real, you fucking plebbit

Dark Forest implies others are hidden "for a good reason" and that anyone who isn't hidden gets killed
if there's no consequences for not being hidden then there's no dark forest

What if the planets, ARE the aliens?Woah...

make sure your micro-balls get pulled in as well so that we don't have to deal with any of your garbage spawn.

Why? What if they can?
We could be on the perimeter of the danger zone looking in, and our nearest neighbours are friendly or too scared.

no we aren't. you can only extract so much information for EM radiation. the problem is the vast distances between everything loses resolution, etc. even if other "habitable" planets were found (there are a few already located), they are so far away, we would never be able to confirm it. stop being stupid.

if we're not in the dark forest then it's irrelevant to us since we can just expand as we please

how to you hide your own planet in the past? the light is already travelling, the entire universe is open for anyone to look.

if somebody wants to find you, they literally just have to look.

and never again

deep space imaging and survey technology will never advance beyond what we currently have

lmao

Lets ignore the 450TB of data and high definition images collected by the Mars Reconnisance Orbiter and believe two grainy photos posted by some nutjob on YouTube.

They could still get to orbit, just not with traditional rockets. If they were a few hundred years more advanced than us, they could build a space elevator. There might also be other ways to overcome or manipulate gravity that we haven't thought of.
Sample size: 1

believe us, goy, WE ARE NASA not some dude

global government conspiracy spends billions to convince the world that space is real (when its actually fake)

but they make the critical blunder of copypasting stars on their images, so some basement schizo can unravel it all on youtube

All images of deep space are faked because radio telescopes don't actually see anything. It's always
"an artists' interpretation" of the data from the radio telescopes.

he still defends it

lmao

space is real, does that frighten you?

Her daughter a lame. She don't iron up

morale standards rising

Morale standards never caused any change. It's change that caused moreale standards to shift because suddenly a morale standard isn't usueful l anymore.
Morality is at it's core biological and part of our survival strategy as a social species

Maybe the people close enough to get us don't want to, but are themselves hiding from people close enough to them to be a reasonable threat. Like if we were in England and could see as far as Germany and vice versa, but Germany was hiding from Russia, who could also see no further than Germany. The universe is a big place, even if they could see us a million years in the past they might not feel motivated to travel a million years just to get to us when they have closer options for expansion.

But it's not about expansion it's about detecting other aliens.

this still assumes that all civilizations enter the space age at roughly the same time so they can even become competitors or threats to eachother in the first place.

when in reality, its likely that the first on the stage will be the first by several million years and simply take everything while everyone else still crawls in primordial pools.

dark forest only makes sense when there is a balance of power, but its pretty much impossible for this to arise with the timescales of evolution and fast pace of technological progress involved.

Dunno why that post made you irrationally angry.
Are you a stupid creationist or something?
Did facts contradict your holy book?

fat person complaining about hunger

using her crippled daughter for sympathy points even though it's completely irrelevant to the point

Just goes to show even before social media there were people like this

I accept your counterpoints as completely valid