Did you guys like it?

oh, look. it's the buzzword guy.
why don't you throw in "ergo" while you're at it.

I completely disagree. If anything a lot the arcs could be much longer.
It is quite obvious, that the show was retrospective condensed.

Didn't watch this pseud slop.

I think it works better this way. If these few arcs were stretched for 5 seasons I think it would haven't been as good

Yeah it literally was barely a rape, if she hadn't said it was 70% of the audience wouldn't even know.

I will concede the first arc was kind of ass. At least the stuff that wasn't the Chandrilah wedding.

Part of what?

Starsloppa

Starsloppa in the Disney era

Not bad, all things considered. I want to like it more, but I hate all things Disney, and the fact that they own both Marvel and Star Wars.

S2 starts alright but jumps the shark in ep 7

sorry, you're right. have a good day, citizen.

This but the exact fucking opposite. The first arc with the retard Rebels on Yavin is awful

arc 3 was the only good one.

The best fight , Darth Maul vs Obi-Wan | Star Wars Rebels

youtube.com/watch?v=jeG215-yu-k

don't be dumb

Ergo my balls my dude

KINOBI

I'll ask the questions.

Delusional cope, it starts mid and turns excellent by the second arc.

how did darth maul stitch his torso back to his lower body?

magic literally

S1 > S2 but I'd still say S2 was really good, S1 was just perfect.

u need to watch the TCW , i disagree with bringing him back but his arc in TCW and Rebels are Kino

keeek

it's bland.

My big gripe is that Andor gets swept up in this mass false imprisonment, by chance.
But we also know at this point that the empire police have a very up to date holographic image by which to identify him. Are we to believe that they would not scan each of these prisoners and cross reference them to known wanted men? He gives a false name and that is just accepted.
It's a very flimsy plotline that really just serves to motivate Andor against the empire.

My big gripe is that Andor gets swept up in this mass false imprisonment, by chance.

The main issue with season 1 was Gilroy having problems with moving Andor from Arc A to Arc.

It's a very flimsy plotline that really just serves to motivate Andor against the empire.

I've noticed this trend in tv shows where they want to stall for time they'll come up with an excuse to sideline the main character. The prison plotline on its own was very good. But as a part of the show, really just served to put him in time out. He basically disappears for a few episodes where people go "where's Andor?" gives an excuse for his mom to die and some other characters to do some stuff while he's making parts for a few months.
Then he gets out and the show continues.
Also a continuity error in the Rogue One movie where he's talking to the blind guy and says it's a "first" being in a cell.

It was a good show! It was very good.

The imprisonment last season wasn't nearly as bad as this season's plotline where he is stranded in the jungle with a bunch of retards.

I thought it was a few good episodes and a lot of boring and time wasting but still better than anything else Disney has done except maybe season 1 of mando

No. The story is bleak and pointless, none of the characters are charming, it’s visually boring, and all of the drama is cliche. It feels like this entire show was made purely just to answer the question of why the empire sucks, but that was a question I never asked let alone want to spend 20 hours having an answered.

Drunk raver Mon Mothma felt like a parody. What the fuck are they on?

We'll make sure the mods know you served Anon Babble today

Be Gilroy

knows he is working on something that is sacred for many

puts more effort into lore and continuity research than anyone else

people spout that he hates Star Wars

There is no winning

t. has never been fucked up at the club after a really bad day

he hates Star Wars

I dont think he ever explicitly said this, more that he just wasn't a superfan or w/e

I dont think he ever explicitly said this

My point is that people say this.

Why are talking about the Ahsoka show? This is an Andor thread?

Does season 2 get better? I thought the first 4 episodes were boring and pointless as hell and the attempted rape scene was just beyond retarded.

rape scene

No one got raped.

Does season 2 get better?

yes

Gilroy doesn't care about the surrounding star wars properties but he was professional enough to make sure his plotting remains consistent.
The "he hates star wars" line comes from autists who thinks anything not being interested about EU!glupp shitto means you feel contempt for the entire IP

chuds shouldn't watch this show

chuds aren't mature enough to watch television

You think I'm crazy?

YESS... I am

Sneedposting is not for the sane

its for gay redditors

They needed him to be motivated towards rebellion because he was ready to take his money and retire on some remote planet.
It was 'lucky' in that sense that he got randomly picked up and sent to an ocean prison, a little bit too lucky.

The beginning of both seasons are a bit of a slog, but well worth the patience. I ended up enjoying the show much more than expected. Even got me a bit back into Star Wars after the years of disappointment.

I remember when I watched the first season when it came out, I was so conditioned to bad star wars that I didn't realize it was kino until I was so far into it, then had to rewatch with new eyes.

Yes, but now I want more. And I know I shouldn’t.

season 1 is well worth the patience.
season 2 is *narrowly* worth the patience.

season 2 is *narrowly* worth the patience.

its worth it, big time

youtu.be/vAf9qixN8IU?si=i6AHnh9_XElRVs0-

youtu.be/FBxs_UOCTeY?si=CjihhCnZ57AatxKv
youtu.be/W2QhXRcgwSI?si=DMLsLKZ1j4ZKkyvx

season 2 is *narrowly* worth the patience.

Everything episode 4 forward is amazing.
It actually made me care about French people

There is no Star Wars without George Lucas
There is no Episode VII

I was distracted every time Bix was onscreen by how beautiful she is, surprised there isn't much waifu posting about her.

Also she is caked up.

kino

I disagree. it's a step down from 1.

i take season 1 and 2 as a whole, on that level its a masterful story.

It isn’t 100% the show’s fault but I feel like the premise is undermined by how incompetent the Empire is. Why do the Rebels bother with all the sneaking around and plotting when it seems they could just defeat the Empire in a straight fight

dozens of Stormtroopers fire into a crowd of protestors

the 3 protestors who have guns somehow manage to kill them all

A total farce, completely ruined what would otherwise have been a very impactful scene

Andor was brave enough to explore the question of “what if we made Star Wars, but boring?”

boring

for a child maybe

I did, and part of me wishes I hadn't. It makes what comes next for Star Wars sting even more.

Stormtroopers having shitty aim has always been a meme
The ISB wanted to rack up a large imperial body count for the propaganda piece. The troopers were probably placed in shitty positions by design. Hell the entire riot was kicked off by deliberate friendly fire

Most of the troops sent in were rookies too, or something like that.

It makes what comes next for Star Wars sting even more.

there's a good possibility we get more kino star wars because of this shows success. I have hope.

it was much better than anything disney has made but no I did not did not like it

Battlestar was awesome you fucking poser

We might but even that might take forever. The next two or three things on the docket are already confirmed Filoni slop, and too many people are still falling for his hackery as is. Hopefully this will be a serious wake-up call for Disney and Lucasfilm that they need to go in a different direction, but I don't know if we'll be able to hold out long enough.

You’re right, but SW is packed with retarded technology oversights that don’t make any sense. Some small, some really fucking massive. At least with this one you got a bit of an in-universe explanation when Kino was worried they were being listened to in the prison.

I don’t have any confidence that they will move in the right direction, but I was reading some postings in a community for a SW video game and was kind of shocked to see how they felt about things. I wasn’t surprised everyone loved Andor, it’s a great show and the average person would enjoy it. But there was constant Filoni bashing. I would have thought that anyone who was aware enough to know who he was would be worshipping him for TCW, but they hated him.

Yeah, it was quite kino actually

The troopers sent right up to the riot were, specially brought in to serve as fodder.

Even if we take these statements from Lucas into account, Star Wars did very much evolve from the simplicity he envisioned in ANH with the prequels, which he made. He was changing his mind and trying to grow his story all the time, until it was more than what it started out as. If we solely stuck to what Star Wars was when Lucas made the first one, we'd be seeing stuff like the marvel comics or the holiday special. Not that those are bad things, but they are a far cry from what Star Wars became by the end of the OT and by the time of Revenge of the Sith. Even Andor still isn't about the things Lucas wanted to avoid showing children, it's about all the same ideals of wanting better for society but more oriented for adults, and there's nothing wrong with that.
And maybe it's just me, but when I was 10-14 I had already graduate from pulpy adventure stories to the likes of Gundam, which was also for the same age bracket and on average is of a higher philosophical and political caliber than Star Wars. And I surely wasn't the only one. You're underestimating the youth and what they can and can't get into.

Did you sleep over the setup of ISB even letting them have weapons and opportunities to rebel?
It was all ABOUT them killing Imperial soldiers, to make the cleansing justified
If they wanted to they could have used the security androids from the start.

But there was constant Filoni bashing.

it just keeps spreading doesn't it. This is what a reconing sounds like.

My question is how the fuck does the empire manage to attract so many people to their ranks? They treat their foot soldiers like fodder and higher ups get punished for being TOO diligent at their job. This sort of incompetence is only believable in the face of an existential outside threat that encourages nationalism, but the empire has no such threats. Only internal threats and for good reason.

I liked it, but if you think about it in depth the series shows Force is actually evil and ruthless, and Sith are more in right than Jedi.
Andor gets his life destroyed by Force,loses friends and love because Force wants him to fulfill certain destiny in eternal struggle between light and dark side. He's like w puppet sentenced to death. Doesn't even want to cut his strings loose. At least Sith and Sheep try to use the Force for their own ends.
The ultimate power move would be to eradicate Force all together from the Galaxy and become free.

Ghorman is a mix of French and Italian culture, German music, and Polish political stupidity. The way they were goaded into pointless slaughter under the guise of uprising resembles quite closely standard Russian method of dealing with Poles, that they used at least three times in history of Poland(1830,1863,1944)
In fact the pararell between Ghorman uprising and Warsaw Uprising in 1944 is almost too striking.

Holy shit you are a clown-capped jester. How could anyone like the wedding stuff? Are you a woman?

A lot of people like being the boot. Just look at real life dictatorships. In a lot of them the grunts weren't much better than the average citizen or even came from the demographics that suffered the most under the state, but having a measure of security and power over others was enough to entice them into becoming grunts. Also, a lot of the people pro dictatorship are like Syirl, being fed propaganda for years and genuinely thinking that the dictatorship brings order and improves peoples lives while being oblivious to the sadism, torture and death or outright dismissing them as rumours and exaggerations from the enemy.

My question is how the fuck does the empire manage to attract so many people to their ranks?

Republic was a shit show. Plus Empire does improve safety and prosperity in wider perspective. On top of that you got the Emperor whose charisma is off the charts.

Not going to happen.
No one likes Andor Season 2.

And you guys actually wonder, why people call you manchildren.

you literally worship an orange daddy, stfu

Reminder all nu wars is faggot shit

our queen

I feel like this is the whole reason why Lucas had to concoct the clone army. Signing up for the empire makes no sense to anybody unless they’re explicitly groomed in a laboratory to be completely obedient soldiers.

Plus Empire does improve safety

The rebellious Senator at one point in the show explicitly points out that murder rates actually increased Galaxy wide under the empire’s watch

Are we to believe that they would not scan each of these prisoners and cross reference them

No ones got time for that shit when you're trying to fill a quota.

The same way all governments do.

Empire does improve safety

for who?

It was kinda funny though.

The folks on coruscant seem to be having a decent time.

You need to calm down, sir.

Which is good. Star Wars are shit. All of it. OT, Prequels, Sequels, all the TV shows. The only way for Andor to be good was to be at odds with Start Wars.

I am calm

Was safety improved when they blew up entire planets because the evil space wizard needs total control of the galaxy?

Well...

True. She's pure sex.

Season 1 was flawless.
Season 2 is held back by the first three episodes.
There's still alot of setup in those episodes that pays off later, but the rebel infighting and retardo heist is just pointless.

The folks on coruscant seem to be having a decent time.

Droid assistance, please.

They treat their foot soldiers like fodder and higher ups get punished for being TOO diligent at their job

The USSR was exactly like this and it went on for a while.

Is this a Loth Cat?

*crime rates
Not actual murders or anything like that, just more people getting arrested for some reason :^)
The empire did emerge by ending a major galaxy wide war though and the did, in a way, bring order back. That bought them enough time to solidify their power.

yep

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Loth-cat

This thread taught me that burgers don't understand dictatorships despite how much their government likes establishing them, which is probably by design.

Jedha was a terrorist dump akin to Isis Iraq.
Alderaan was inciting a galaxy wide civil war which harmed security of trillions of citizens on countless planets.

based

from my point of view the empires policies did that

Where are Death Troopers in the OT?

It's been too fucking long, were people doing meme posts in Saw-speak similar to when people were posting WHEN I WAS A BOY kingpin threads?

Well then you are... imprisoned I guess, droid assistance please.

I stand with Sheev

The prequels already answered that.

People are saying these statements aren't contradictory. They are, for more than nitpicky reasons. Nemik is saying don't worry if you feel low on spoons, even the smallest bit helps. Yoda is saying you must manifest a superior reality into existence through sheer tyranny of will.

Lucas was channeling influences like Joseph Campbell and Carlos Castaneda so there's a strain running through all his work having to do with the ability to determine your own reality through the disciplined cultivation of personal spiritual power.

This philosophy of mystical individualized empowerment is completely alien to someone like Tony Gilroy but is central to Lucas's worldview because it's how he's lived his entire life—accomplishing the impossible based on his irrational belief in a vision no one else understands.

Senator has to consult a mob boss to hide the fact that they’re funding rebels

mob boss mentions that it’s not uncommon for the wealthy to consult him to avoid the new taxes

Senators in general shown to be completely powerless and afraid to stick their leg out on any issue that goes against Palpatine

Families on coruscant live unfulfilling lives of medieval style nepotism and forcing marriages out of convenience

middle class people eat slop

middle class people live in compact spaces

middle class people work in dystopian cubicles

the privileged don’t even get bootleg entertainment, just empire propaganda

No terrorist attacks actually happen on Coruscant itself

The empire doesn’t even appear to make life any better on coruscant. Literally worse than modern day living.

I was just glad one of the fairly pointless lesbos got killed (pointlessly)

Kleya would make a terrible gf.

The USSR had a real external threat of Nazi germany and a propagandist one in America to sustain nationalism. The Empire never had any real boogiemen to reinforce the same loyalty. The Empire taking over doesn’t show living standards on Coruscant improving in any sort of way.

Yoda is saying that their godly wizard powers are capped by mindset and wielding the force properly requires you to have belief in your own power.
Nemik is saying that when you are a man trying to move a mountain, trying itself is enough, even if your best might be too little to even put a dent in it.
Yoda speaks from a position of unimaginable power and explains how to properly wield it. Nemik speaks from a position of powerlessness and explains that there is solace and hope in doing whatever is in you can, no matter how insignificant it may be.
Both visions have their place. Astonishing self-belief is important to anyone wanting to accomplish the impossible, but believing in doing whatever you are capable of —no matter how little it is— is equally important, especially to someone whose reality constantly enforces powerlessness upon them. It's not like Nemik is saying that just trying is enough, he is saying that trying is essential. He didn't organize a picket in front of the senate or some other frivolous action, he organized the biggest heist in the empire's history and took part in it despite being scared and out of his depth, putting his life in the line for it. At the end of the day, both Nemik, Yoda and Luke are moved by belief and —more importantly— by hope.

I would move all cupboads and cabinets about a feet higher so she had to tiptoe all the time

Nta, but south and central american dictatorships were exactly like this and they lasted for decades. Their "bogeymen" were internal insurgents —which they treated harshly, which motivated insurgency, which served as justification for more harshness. Just like what happens in Andor.

See and his partisans spin-off when?

wtf was his problem?

Saw***

Kino overdose.

Hopefully never. Rebels vs Empire has been done enough already.

everything George Lucas did not want

George couldn’t even write a consistent story set in his own universe, and he had decades to do so. They managed to write a far better story than he could ever hope to. If it doesn’t “feel” like George’s star wars, that’s because of the better script. Go fuck yourself fagwan.

ChatGPT ass response. Also, wrong. You reduced it to irrelevant power levels and magic, when that was explicitly refuted in the very post you're replying to. It's about fundamental belief, and the very real IRL inspiration. Andor is a very anti-spiritual, materialistic, mundane show. Gilroy is an atheist. And he can't comprehend otherwise. This is completely at odds with Lucas' worldview and what he imbued into Star Wars as a result.

Cope, Mike. Enjoy your sequels.

For better or worse Star War is a brand and is a setting. I don't think it is unreasonable to say that part of what makes Star Wars enjoyable is that it's a setting you can't tell any kind of story you want in, introspective space wizard tales or pulpy scoundrel adventures, or melodramas about revolution. I have a ton of Campbell books on my shelf that I'm plenty fond of, I'm the first person who wants and Earthsea like Star Wars series about introspective use of magic powers and actualization, and I don't think it's a good idea at all to make Star Wars exclusively about Campbell's monomyth or existential spiritualism.

*blocks your path*

You don't need to look at dictatorships. Look at the Scottish being the UKs absolute best and most hardship-embracing military grunts despite being brutalized. Or American Southerners being the atongewt and best core of the US military after the Civil War and watching Thor homes burnt and neighbors brutalized.

People who survive that sort of abuse tend to romanticize it like a rite of passage. If the system gives them an option to prove their loyalty and their toughness, they embrace it. Like an abused exploited worker who gives his life to the company and wears his unpaid 80 hours overtime as a badge of honor

Why is Ashoka not in Andor?

It's okay...slightly above average. It's better than anything else Disney has shat out but it certainly does not live up to the hype surrounding it.

She was busy having sex with me.

Andor shows to pov of regular people while George's work was always about mythical wizards following the will a godly force or using it for selfish reasons. Here, let me portray it in a way that even you can understand:

me Yoda

me have absolute belief

me fight Sheev and throw shit at him in the senate with my mind

me normal being without magic powers

me have absolute belief

me get force choked and eletrocuted by Sheev, then sent to Emperor Palpatine's Surgical Reconstruction Center so I can be eletrocuted and choked some more

It's ridiculous to call Andor anti-spiritual when the show makes it clear that Andor has a god given purpose, to the point that Bix hides her pregnancy from him and goes away just so that he can fulfill it.

Its sad that this show ended i wanted more Andor the rest of Disney Star Wars is gay

yeah these were mostly filoni slop shitters like star wars theory who hated andor because there were not lightsabers or muh force

I haven't watched it and don't plan to, but thank you for asking

No

I fucking loved it.