What would have been your setup if given control instead of Empire vs Rebels 2.0?

What would have been your setup if given control instead of Empire vs Rebels 2.0?

starshit

neck yourself jeet

Luke's jedi academy

Han and Leia happily married with teen twin jedi

Chewie and Lando in the falcon

Regarding the villains exclusively:

First Order/whatever it's called is a mix of Imperial Remnant and Chiss defectors that become aware of the Vong - who aren't as pure edgelord/immune to the force as they are, but they do think they are on a righetous crusade to help the galaxy by purging it of tech after their own one was fucked up by some space Skynet situation - guess you can draw comparisons to the Butlerian Jihad of Dune

co-led by Thrawn/Snoke equivalent - Snoke equivalent has a known origin, as an artificial creature who's creation was kickstarted automatically when Palpatine died, a thing created, imbued with dark force energy, the blood/dna of Plagueis (he isn't an exact clone or Plagueis tho) and all the knowledge of the Sith to keep the order alive. He's pensive and almost resigned, as a puppet/slave of the dark side

the Kylo and Hux replacements are more like Caedus/Revan hybrid and Eli Vanto, representing the interests of Snoke and Thrawn, their respective mentors

Knight of Ren replacements are simply dark siders, not Sith. If they're still called something like Knights of Ren then Ren = The Force in an ancient language

Jacen/Caedus is the ultimate villain after the false antagonists that are the Imperial Remnant and, later, the Vong. Pull in some Kreia/Darth Traya motive. Luke and him have the ultimate clash of ideology; former seeing the force as described by Obi-Wan and Yoda in the originals and latter as this dark parasite that robs people of free will. He is intent on a force wound so vast it ends the force, the destructive consequences be damned because it restores actual free will to the galaxy in his POV

haven't worked out how Jacen's big plan actually works, idk maybe he leads everyone down the garden path that the Star Forge is out there = fleet to stop the Vong but in reality the Forge is only an ancient security system to protect some Mass Shadow Generator equivalent or something more trippy relating to the Whills

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Whatever the original creator George Lucas wanted

Episode VII

Thrawn & Vong Introduction Cliffhanger

Episode VIII

Vong

Episode IX

Vong Conclusion & Abeloth

setup

We start with straight white male main character and we quickly establish 3 or 4 more characters, a white girl, some old white mentor, maybe a white friend of the main character or a cousin, etc. Then we'll see what happens.

What would have been your setup if given control instead of Empire vs Rebels 2.0?

Whatever Lucas wrote just without autism and better dialogue

I wouldn't have done anything. I would've just listened. And that's what no one did

It's years later and Luke has his new Jedi order set up on Yavin 4 in those cool temples

Main Lead is Han and Leia's Daughter who is traveling to Yavin to train in the force since she showed potential back home.

The daughter (who I'll just call Hannah cause it has Han in it) is a shut in nerd because her parents are over protective out of fear of Imperial remnants. She is a cute dork stereotype who can act as the every man who can get exposition dumbed on.

Luke has a son around the same age as Hannah (I'll just call him Ben). He's going to be training too.

Old cast have sweet reunion on Yavin 4 reintroducing their kids.

Han sticks around with Chewie and 3PO to keep an eye on Hannah because Leia is busy running New Republic shit and Han wants something to do since he has no real responsibilities now.

As the kids train Hannah is shown a natural gift in the force and Luke is super impressed showing her most of his attention in training.

As training continues it's determined that Ben is completely deaf to the force.

Ben is devasted, Luke is too though he won't admit it. The grandson of the chosen can't use the force.

Ben's animosity for Hannah grows. He becomes more jealous of her relationship with his dad and tries putting Hannah in danger to get Han to pull her out of training.

Ben fails because Chewie sees the whole thing and saves Hannah

Chewie tells Han and he snaps at Ben. He says he's taking Hannah home because he can't trust Luke to keep her safe.

Luke snaps too, saying Ben cost the order a powerful member, causing Ben to run off.

Ben will be approached by one of the other Jedi training in Luke's order who is secretly an Imperial sympathsizer who has influtrated the order.

Evil jedi convinces Ben that Luke failed to teach him properly. He says that he can help Ben use the force through the darkside but he'll need to do something evil to open himself to it.

Cont.

Says he should kill Han Solo because he is responsible for bringing Hannah to Yavin and ruining Ben's life.

Through deception Ben gets alone with Han by saying he wants to apologize.

Luke senses something wrong and heads for Ben and Han

Evil jedi confronts Luke and tells him his intentions

Fight ensues Luke keeps trying to run to reach his son but keeps getting stopped by evil jedi

Hannah senses something wrong while packing. Starts looking for her Dad.

Han and Ben are talking. Ben is fixing up drinks and poisons the one he intends Han to have.

They chat

Han drinks the poisoned blue milk.

Han begins saying he was too hard of Ben. He knows what it's like to be a disappointment.

Says he understands why Ben did it and partailly wants to take Hannah so Luke can focus on his relationship with Ben.

Ben feels regret

Han starts convulsing as poison starts working

Ben grabs Han's body and starts apologizing but can't do anything.

Han dies

Luke senses this after incapacitating evil jedi

Evil Jedi laughs and says Luke is too late

Luke runs to find Ben leaving evil jedi

Hannah reaches where Han is firsr to find Ben holding her father's lifeless body

She goes nuts and starts flinging Ben around with the force

She's about to kill Ben when Luke arrives and stops her

Luke looks at Ben in disbelief

Ben runs off in fear

Luke tries to console Hannah

Evil jedi intercepts Ben and tells them they must leave to complete his training

They leave heading for an imperial faction in the outer rim

Movie ends with Han's funeral everyone is sad

Luke promises that he'll find Ben and Avenge Han

Luke leaves his order to make up for his mistake

Hannah demands he takes her with him

Film ends with the two leaving Yavin to find Ben

Vong

Live action Abeloth would cause such an absurd wave of waifufagging

mommyfags

monster fuckers

tentacle weebs

giant women fags

"I can fix her" fags

That's an explosive combo.

No plot really. Just close up shots of this ass, with the occasional 90s style softcore porn scene.

Luke becomes king, we model the the themes and styles of the first movie around a kind of futuristic Rome during Constantines reign with obvious parallels between Christianity and Jedism.

With the Sith out of the picture, many who depend on criminal lifestyles turn to droids and technology to assert dominance. More and more sinister and manipulative droids are built, there are small militias and gangs that depend on these droids

you follow a budding noname jedi who sharpens his skills by dealing with these criminals and evil droids

All the while Luke is disinterested in his role as emperor, despite many pushing him to lean into it. He ends traveling to a remote area to clear his thoughts and get some peace when he discovers a secret cult of human torturers deep in the clay of some deserted planet. These beings kidnap regular people and brutally torture them (we show the gore) in order to extract the Stars Wars equivalent of adrenochrome. They are seen drinking it and bathing in it but also saving some of it to build some kind of project. Luke continues to spy on them when he sees a fresh victim being baited into their trap (it's the jedi boy).

idk and then they all have gay sex or something. I kind of like the idea of a Star Wars that focuses on kino cinematography and set design without any sith vs jedi stuff and also lots of gore

That conflicting voice who says is not good enough

The Old Republic is my favorite SW setting, and I would have used three movies to set the essentials of that universe up again but in whatever amounts to modern day in the SW universe. What I like about it is that the Empire is explicitly the Sith Empire. I think it gives room to tell interesting stories that are within each realm of influence, as well as where the two factions are in conflict.

I would have used the first film to show the reestablishment of each of the orders, the second to show the expansion of each faction, and finally an actual star war. Basically each entry would up the stakes, from personal to universe defining. I'd try to tell a story with two characters on each side of the divide who are on a collision course, and finally have it out in the final movie (and I think I would want the "bad guy" to prevail to add some doubt to how the future will end up).

Maybe this sounds lame, but I think sith v. jedi is the only thing that makes SW interesting.

Make it extra long like the LoTR trilogy.

Sith vs Jedi is out. All the OT characters are dead (mostly due to old age, it's not important).
There's still a power vacuum in the galaxy after the collapse of the empire and different forces fight each other for the hegemony.
Completely new factions, at least 3.

New Republic - they don't control much, new Jedi are on their side.
Bad force guys, but not Sith - Sith ideology is dead, the retarded rule of two is out. It's basically a militarized society with force users as elite troops.
Other bad guys - either technology or religious nuts. It could be two different factions.

It should be its own thing, barely related to the old films. Maybe there would be a statue of Luke in new Jedi Academy or whatever. But that's it, no more shit for nostalgic retards.

My headcanon for Star Wars post-ROTJ has always been that the galaxy enjoys a golden age of a thousand years of relative peace and prosperity. But if I had to do something less... boring, then it would definitely NOT be another Rebels versus Empire/Jedi versus Sith type of story like the creatively bankrupt Disney did for the sequel trilogy. Maybe some type of super-intelligent sentient AI gone rogue threatening to assimilate the entire galaxy, because I haven't seen that type of villain done in Star Wars before. But then again, I'm mostly just familiar with the movies. I have never watched any streaming show and never will. Call me old-fashioned, but I never engage with the digital jew. Hell, I haven't even made the switch to Blu-Ray because I still use DVDs. I don't consider anything that Disney has done with Star Wars to be canon and that obviously includes the sequel trilogy. I would also gladly accept whatever the original creator George Lucas wanted (like this gigachad said: ).

Whatever Lucas wrote just without autism

But Lucas's autism is half of the fun and soul. Like Lucas would give names to various alien fruits that you can read about in the visual dictionaries, for example. That's a level of detail and effort that soulless Disney would NEVER give to Star Wars.

and better dialogue

Okay, you got me on that one. Even Lucas himself openly said that he hates dialogue and he said while laughing that his dialogue is wooden. I love how Based Lucas can laugh at himself like that.

Based effortpost. I think of myself as being a Pre-Disney Star Wars fan that is above a casual Pre-Disney Star Wars fan but below a hardcore Pre-Disney Star Wars fan. Like I have a few Star Wars comics and games from the 90s and 2000s, but that's about it as far as my knowledge of the franchise beyond the movies is concerned. Are the Yuuzhan Vong those guys from another galaxy that are immune to Force-based attacks?

New Republic gets fragmented over a debate surrounding the a particularly close galactic senate vote along strict part lines that passed a budget that put deep cuts on defense, which reignites old Imperial factions in the Army leading to a civil war that pits Corrisant/Naboo business interests against both former Sith functionaries and Rebel Alliance factions who are frustrated by a lack of recognition for their role in the reinstallation of the the Republic.
Eventually this forces Leia and Han's daughter, now a senator from Naboo, to call on her connections in the old Rebel Alliance to try to settle tensions in the two formerly opposing military factions.
The New Jedi Order meanwhile is dealing with corruption charges due to it's connection to Civil War era smugglers and voter suspicion on Jedi racketeering in drug trafficking and gambling.
This eventually leads to a light saber battle between a Sith Lord who is a colonel in the military who has a blaster that's also a lightsaber and the Luke where Luke dies in front of his niece and nephew who at that point decide to join the Jedi order.
The next movie is a mob-style movie about the kids becoming incredibly corrupt, using the force to win bets and move illegal drugs and weapons until the girl is killed by some drug sniffing alien. This leads the surviving brother to become more straight-laced, take on the senate position and become an ardent anti-corruption senator. He has to fight the corrupt general during an arms deal and wins, but only severs his leg
Third movie bad guy comes in with new robot leg that's got some crazy shit on it that fires out lasers and there's a chase scene and eventually the son passes a bill, cutting military spending. Fight scene in the senate and maybe a space ship chase.

Maybe this sounds lame, but I think sith v. jedi is the only thing that makes SW interesting.

It doesn't sound lame, just unimaginative. Surely there are more factions of noble Force-users and evil Force-users than just the Jedi and Sith? And there's gotta be neutral Force-users too. It's a big galaxy, after all.

LITERALLY just adapt the Yuuzhan Vong war

jeet

have a sex, incel-chud

Still not enough. You can't reduce Thrawn, NJO or FOTJ to individual movies without ruining the pacing or completely changing the plot.
LOTR was just 3 books and even then the movies left out a huge chunk of them.
Meanwhile Thrawn is a trilogy. NJO is almost 20 damn novels, and FOTJ is another 9.

There's dark Jedi, who are close to the dark side but don't care about ruling the galaxy and just become petty criminals or sell themselves out as mercenaries.
And also some Force wielders who can use the Force but very lacking skills.

easy, i would have made george's sequel trilogy
then 10-12 would be the EU trilogy, thrawn, vong and njo

Thanks for the reply. The concept of non-aligned (or multi-aligned) Force wielders deserves to be explored more.

that pic is literally the only worthwhile pic she's ever taken
also there's a lot of modification, her ass isn't actually that fat, that's a skin tight thong along with some lighting and photoshop to make it appear juicy

That's WAY too much, each of those stories could be it's own trilogy.

Thrawn only needs to be 1 movie. Just because it's 3 books doesn't mean it has to be 3 movies.

Are the Yuuzhan Vong those guys from another galaxy that are immune to Force-based attacks?

Yes but they get shit on for being edgelords that love pain and being immune to the force to establish them as super duper scary bad guys. I like them broadly speaking, an actual external threat for once. Simply tone down the edge and force-immunity and keep their bioorganic culture and have them see themselves as righetous crusaders saving others from the machines (they are a radical society formed by the trauma of what an AI/droid war did to their native galaxy). But the galaxy won't roll over for religious fanatics, so them coming = hundreds of billions will die so in a twist of ironcy, the Imperial remnant-Chiss defector faction are the vanguard of the fight against them. But there is something greater going on in the backdrop of all of this as relates to the force. Idk, I feel a bit eh about any sequel trilogy limited to only another big ass civil war or fighting off invaders like the vong, I want something bigger and universal that impacts all living things with the force to be at play.

THIS

There isn't any good sequel ideas without shitting on the originals, george's ideas were ass and that's why he never tried to do a sequel trilogy. Can't have conflict while having Superman on speed dial and you can't escalate the stakes either

In 10 years, you'll love Rey and pretend to like her to avoid being called a woman hater

except its already been 10 years and the only people who love rey are disniggers
even the gen z an alpha fans hate the sequels even if they love the cartoons

The vong were always a shit concept.

facts
the thrawn trilogy is a bloated mess

xd le ebin art

i planned to lose

oy vey anudda shoah as my goyim servant backstabs me

that's the trilogy in a nutshell. you can cut out the joruus subplot but keep mara jade and you've got a steady film that can spin off into other titles

There's just not a whole lot to it, most Force sensitives who aren't corrupted first choose to become Jedi since they lead better lives than 99% of the people.
Then there's a vast array of entities who can use the Force and really don't care about Jedi or Sith.
Abeloth is the biggest example, she was corrupted for using both a light and dark side Force nexuses and on top she thought Sith and Jedi were both like stupid kids in an endless slapfight.

that's why he never tried to do a sequel trilogy

He literally wrote the treatments for a sequel trilogy that he started producing before disney bought the franchise.
Are you genuinely so retarded that you think a revolution would just instantly solve everything with no more conflict?

The OT characters were fighting for a New Republic and New Jedi Order. As long as they exist and are legitimately far superior to their previous forms (not perfect, but you can inject some optimism that they succeeded in creating something better), their struggles did pay off. The Empire 2.0 - whether under Thrawn or not - as the exclusive threat thirty fucking years after RotJ does annoy me, which is why I would want them + Chiss allies to be small but extremely high quality force that has an agenda that has shifted so much they can be an ally of the Republic against greater threats.

They've sometimes been designed to look visually cool, I am a sucker for bioorganic stuff, and they are an external menace for once. I think they can work - if you opt to go for them being righetous crusaders, I'd have them basically treat the rest of the galaxy with incredulousness that they resist rather than 'hahahaha we love being evil baby eating sadistic fucks'

The immediate of the Republic victory, but played realistically, so:

There are still militarily powerful Imperial remnants scattered around everywhere, some of which conduct raids, some of which are still die-hard fighters, and some of which are considering surrender or have turned to illegal trading/drugs/gangsterism and are only marginally committed to loyalism.

There is a considerable semi-crypto pro-Imperial bloc in the New Senate (or whatever it's called). Perhaps old Separatist elements could re-assert themselves.

Many of the problems of the Old Republic are threatening to cause the system to collapse again.

Civil disturbance motivated by loyalties to either side of the civil war threaten stability.

The Republic army and navy are increasingly gung-ho and pretorian about stepping in to "restore order."

I'm not sure what I'd do plotwise. Han would immediately check out at all the grinding political bullshit. Leia would be crushed by the reality of a post-civil war situation. Luke would probably cope by becoming more involved in Jedi mysticism.

TFA

There’s no resistance, only the Republic exists and the First Order is a small remnant of the Empire that still controls a peripherical region of the galaxy. They’re led by Snoke, an old Empire general with no force affinity that is kept alive by machines. The FO has been on the decline but they recently had a few new members, Kylo Ren and his knights, who came with a supercruiser with invincible shields or something, and they’re now on a grand offensive toward the Republic capital. Nobody knows how given their supposed limited ressources.
Main plot is about defeating the doomsday ship and understanding how the First Order (and Kylo) built it.
Han is a crooked general but is tired of sitting behind a desk, so after discussing with Leia, the leader of the New Republic, he embarks on a secret mission to save the Republic. On his way to gather information he comes across Rey on Jakku, witnesses her using the force and hires her as a mercenary. He also takes Finn given his knowledge of the FO.

Finn is a loyal stormtrooper but he unknowingly helped Poe escape, and he's labelled a traitor by the First Order. He's then forced to cooperate with our heroes in order to survive. His angle is trying to deceive Rey and Han in order to gain the Republic’s trust and betray them once he gathers intel to earn back his return in the First Order, but as the story progress he understands that maybe he has been lied to since he was a kid etc. In the end he grows attached to Rey, Poe and Han while the First Order only taught him about authority and hatred. He understands he's been on the wrong side all his life and this climax when he finally reveals to Han the frequency that will allow them to bypass the FO shields, which he knew all along. He’s too serious and sort of a comic relief in a fish-out-of-the-water situation.

He comes across Rey and Han on Jakku after his forced escape with Poe and convince them to take him as Han is looking for intel on the FO.

Sure thing bud thats why he gladly sold it off kek. You can't make a whole trilogy about hunting down retarded remnant jobbers after defeating Darth Vader and the fucking Emperor, lowering the stakes is also a bad idea.

*immediate aftermath

Rey been left alone for a long time, and she grew up selfish and distrustful, which are mandatory traits on a planet such as Jakku in order to survive. She’s not a strong fighter but she’s cunning and has a somehow raw control of the force, though she doesn’t know what it is. This can be established by showing her escape several looters on the opening scenes using the force, or having her bargain for BB8 when she gets offered rations. She doesn't trust Han at first but follow him to leave Jakku. She doesn't care all that much for Finn in the beginning. She appears a bit more cold, and the only time she really opens up is when leaving Finn at the Republic’s base at the end, because she understood that opening yourself and trusting others could be a strenght, and not a weakness etc.

Kylo is a much more mysterious figure, we only know he was Luke apprentice and destroyed the temple, killed some of the other trainees and disappeared for years only to join the FO with his right hand man Hux and other former jedi apprentices. Hux is an alien that is discriminated against in the FO. Kylo is revealed to be Han’s son only when killing him, and is "defeated" while heavily injured by Finn and Rey teaming up: during the battle Rey destroys a sith holocron Kylo had on him. This result in a strange explosion, that creates some telepathic bond between them that we get a glimpse of. They then escape Kylo.

After they destroy the ship at the last moment, it’s revealed that Kylo uncovered an ancient and forgotten sith super-weapon that can contrust ships & armies using the energy of a star and controlled by old sith holocrons. They need to infiltrate the FO and find Luke if they want a chance to survive.

That idea that Lucas had where the Empire would've been splintered off into multiple factions and former Imperial Officers became Warlords

TLJ

Timeskip of a few months after TFA, Rey has arrived in some FO administrated planet incognito in order to search for Luke, who’s been there for some times trying to reach Kylo. After some action hijinx where they meet, he decides to train her in the Force after he notices she can uses it, all the while continuing their mission of trying to find a way to Kylo and eventually his ancient base. We are introduced to the mental bond between Rey and Kylo, and see they’ve been getting more acquainted during the timeskip, interrupting each other’s daily routine. Though not friendly, the relationship is respectful and they are trying to sway each other into joining the other side. This is displayed throughout the movie with little discussions scenes, where Rey is trying to hide that she’s in fact near him working with Luke. We start to understand Kylo’s motivation a bit more clearly: opposition to the Republic inefficiency in rebuilding the Galaxy after the destruction of the Empire, end of discrimination against force users that is prevalent in the new republic…

Meanwhile the war between Republic and FO is raging on border worlds. Poe, Finn and Chewbacca are broing it up on the frontlines of a planet they have to defend against a new FO assault, we get some moments to show how Finn is a hardass but a competent one, and we see a bit more of Poe and the history of the Republic. Some implications about how the New Republic government doesn’t trust force users given the history with the Empire. At some point the battle goes badly because Poe decided to disregard some orders as he thought he had an opportunity to win an engagement, and our group and some other soldiers are stranded in a resistance pocket in a building, fighting inevitable defeat as the Republic army retreats. Finn is injured in the engagement.

Sure thing bud thats why he gladly sold it off kek

He sold it on the promise that they'd use his treatments. Once JJ came aboard, he threw those treatments in the trash to rehash the OT.

Back to Luke and Rey, they have a plan to capture Kylo in his HQ thanks to some intel Rey had with their mental link, but it was a trap. Kylo uses this opportunity to kill Snoke blaming it on our heroes and claim the FO for himself. He then reveals his plan: to put the Force in power, restore the Jedi Order to its full glory and unify the galaxy under a new jedi knight council. He tries to convince Rey to join and we can tell he got a liking to her and is earnest in his ambitions; she accepts, but only as a way to trick Kylo. Luke escapes thanks to her help, battle ensues and they manage to escape go back to Republic space with some holocrons that were necessary to control the ancient sith factory. We still get a glimpse of the enormous force the FO has amassed during the past months and that they are about to unleash on the Republic.

Back on the assieged Republic world, all hope seems lost for Finn, Poe and the rest. Poe has organised and led the group of Republic soldiers he was stuck with against the assaults of the FO, but they are in a precarious situation. Think Pavlov's House. Luke and Rey are shot down on the planet as they just arrive as it was the first Republic world in their path and they didn't know it was under assault. Just as the 2 groups are getting closed on, in the nick of time, Leia arrives with a fleet to relieve the assieged and saves the day. Emotional reunion between Luke and Leia to conclude the movie.

if you say so retard

I find an issue with sequel rewrites is that they actually extend the existing sequel trilogy the courtesy of using Rey, Jakku, Finn, Kylo, etc. but rewritten. No, fuck that I say. Build it from scratch - if there is a rough Kylo equivalent (who himself is a Caedus equivalent) because a child of the Solos being a villain = compelling idea then that's fine, sure, but you're under no obligation to *have* to use Kylo Ren, Finn, Snoke, etc.

ROS

Opens on a giant space battle in Republic space a couple of months after TLJ. We’re quickly explained that the war hasn’t been going well. We also see that Poe and Finn have risen through the ranks. Meanwhile the knights of Ren have a commando mission on a nearby planet where they manage to retrieve the holocrons necessary to activate the ancient factory starbase, despite Luke and Rey’s intervention. We see that Kylo is much less certain of the righteousness of his mission and that some his knights, like Hux, have gotten more fanatical under the holocrons influence.

The space battle is eventually won by the Republic but at an enormous military cost, and it’s now a battle against time to destroy the FO before they send new waves of a never-ending fleet, against which the Republic would stand no chance. Leia resigns from her position in the Republic after a political disagreement on how to proceed now. She emotionally strong-arm Luke into joining him to save her son

There’s both a commando mission to land inside the base led by Luke and a fleet force with Poe/Chewie to act as a distraction, you can picture how it goes.

At the last moment, Luke, Leia and Rey manage to sway Kylo. He and a couple of knights turn against the rest of the Knights of Ren, led now by a sith-controlled Hux. During the battle Leia sacrifices herself to save Kylo from Hux and is heavily injured. Hux is killed, and as the base is about to explode our heroes start to escape. Luke announces he must stay back as he wishes to stay with his sister. We see them from afar embracing each other as the base collapse. Having lost all their leadership and source of power, the remaining FO forces surrender or flee. Chewie was feared dead but is discovered alive. Reunion for Leia's national funeral, Kylo attends secretly

Movie ends on Kylo and Rey scouting the galaxy for new force users and rebuilding a Jedi Order, while Luke and Leia ghosts watch them from afar.

That all you got?

Just do EU

There was never a need. Episode 6 ended in a "and they lived happily ever after", bringing any major conflict afterwards shits on everything

I find Imperial Remnant as THE threat good when not too long after RotJ like the Thrawn trilogy but 30 years after Endor they exist to pose such a threat to the galaxy and their victory = only more of the same except without a Sith as the figurehead? It doesn't do it for me, but I'd want them as an important faction nonetheless

Sure, but at that point most of those character are different, just using the same names for the sake of everyone understanding quickly what the Disney characters were replaced by. Theres nothing wrong with having a planet named Jakuu with a scavenger named Rey living there

The Yuuzhan Von also called the Chosen Race, known to the Chiss and Ferroans as the Far Outsiders, and sometimes incorrectly abbreviated to Vong (which implied that one was disowned by their family and their gods)—were a nomadic extra-galactic sentient species that nearly destroyed the New Republic, and were responsible for the deaths of over 300 trillion sentient beings during their invasion of the galaxy.

they suceed after 6 by making a republic and new jedi order that are actually good and optimistic entities, mog their previous forms hard

then they fight to preserve what they have made, not fight to overthrow people

It's not a broken premise that they have battles after Endor but I think it is when the battle is against only the Imperials 3 decades after Palpatine died. That's where I draw the line.

Thrawn trilogy. Let's not kid ourselves, it's the only EU books worth anything and the only ones that feel like a SW trilogy of movies. All the other shit is either slightly retarded or doesn't feel enough like SW.

To be fair a huge chunk of the galaxy was still under Imperial control.
An epilogue trilogy that started out showing the liberation of Coruscant, fhe New Republic's struggles to fill the power vacuum left by the Empire and the formation of the New Jedi Order, which is what Lucas planned, would have been fine.

I do think a one off movie where they firmly establish the new republic and how great everything is could work, it'd be a bit boring though so you can't build a whole trilogy out of it.

I feel a bit eh about any sequel trilogy limited to only another big ass civil war or fighting off invaders like the vong, I want something bigger and universal that impacts all living things with the force to be at play.

I agree with this, any potential new sequel trilogy has to be more than just another war between the Jedi/Rebels and the Sith/Empire. Perhaps the Force itself is shifting. I really don't know. Also, I'm sure people will hate this, but I'd be down for a comfy slice-of-life Star Wars movie/show. Like a movie or show set during a peacetime era of the galaxy. Taking the Wars out of Star Wars. I love autistic things like that.

So Post-RotJ in Legends then.

Oh my apologies. I didn't realise you had down's syndrome

well you could definitely do a next generation style story where the OT cast are either super old or have already passed on (best situation)
like they easily could have gone down the legacy route and picked up 120 years afterwards and the ghost of luke speaks to some new guy who happens to be very powerful in the force (potentially a reincarnation of anakin) and trains him to use his potential to start the next generation of jedi as new forces of evil emerge

it's the only EU books worth anything

Bullshit. Plentt of better written and more entertaining stuff in the EU than it.

the only ones that feel like a SW trilogy of movies

Again, the whole thing can be condensed into a single film and still work well if not better.

Having the starforge would kill any hope of having Old Republic content one day

it really is telling that in this thread alone a handful of anons spitballing can instantly come up with something leagues better than what disney did. legions of writers and committees working to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars of budget and they still somehow shat out a storyline that even a redditor could've surpassed

I dont think those are happening anyway regardless, but I dont think thats true, you could have the starforge in a story taking place thousands of years before as long as you dont destroy it, or establish theres several of them

That's why the best I've got is the Jacen/Caedus angle, he embraced the dark side because the power necessary to get what he wants done which is severing the Force's influence of life, believing it prevents free will and traps the universe in a dark rising, dark topples light, light rising, light topples dark on constant repeat. Basical nicking the Kreia motivation. He's more of a pensive warrior-king in temperament rather than screaming faggot like Kylo Ren, though him actually embraced the dark side can be a mini-twist in Episode 8-9, at first we believe he purely defected to the Imperial Remnant-Chiss faction cause his own travels made him learn the Vong coming, still uses his blue saber, etc. I have an idea on his death/redemption but idk how it would be received.

Han is a crooked general

shit

star forge

nah

missed opportunity to have Chewie crushed by a moon

pathetic

filler episode

no thanks

kylo ren turns good and lives

nah he has to die no matter what, at least keep him evil to the end like jj initially planned, or he turns good and rey dies instead

overall garbage, still better than what we got

Episode 8-9

Guess I should clarify I would have there be an Episode X. Imagine if Disney knocked it out of the dark and each subsequent movie got even better reviews, a higher or equal box office past two million and then at the end of episode 9 on a big cliffhanger, the audience gets to see To Be Continued... in Episode X

as long as you dont destroy it, or establish theres several of them

both of these would make revan's adventure completely redundant and a waste of time
the only way you could skate around that glaring issue is you have someone discover rakata prime holding the original designs to the star forge and the process to rebuild it takes place over the span of several thousand years so that it lines up right when the sequels take place and even then you keep forgetting that people still complain about the second death star even though it was a totally logical choice

Jedi vs Yuuzhan Vong

When I was a kid I wrote Star Wars Episode VII. It started with Luke back on Tatooine doing Jedi training shit like flips and floating rocks and riding around in his speeder with R2 and looking at suns when he gets a space phone call from Lando. Han, Leia, and their twins have been kidnapped by space pirates. Space pirates are led OC donut steal wannabe Sith. I think his name was Lord Shear at the time. He was one of those red imperial guard guys but was undergoing secret force training at when the Death Star blew up (that's why he didn't blow up on the Death Star), hates Luke for killing the Emperor, whatever. Lando has to stay at Cloud City to do some computer thing to help. Luke loans him 3PO to do some computer stuff because I hate 3PO. Luke gathers allies. Flies to Kashyyk and gets Chewie. We see his retarded kids. Luke meets some kind of wild monkey girl the wookies are taking care of (her ship crashed and she was living in the jungle). She's force sensitive so Luke abducts her to be his apprentice and off we go. Luke and co fight the pirates, Luke gets a hot pirate gf (possibly an alien, open to either) by convincing her to abandon her hate and join his team, and rescues Han, Leia, and the twins who are revealed to have force powers in the final battle scene. Also one of Chewie's retard kids is force sensitive so there's your Jedi Academy. Luke has sex with his pirate gf back home (talk about babies, etc). Then we cut to darkside witches chanting shit on another planet. Unclear what they're up too but it seems spooky. The end.

set 1,000+ years after the end of the Original Trilogy (negating any need to retcon EU since it only went 150 or so years past the Original Trilogy)

New Republic had a decent run but eventually stagnated and collapsed centuries prior

the Jedi Order similarly fragmented and now consists of a bunch of diaspora sects, many practicing a mix of Sith and Jedi beliefs because no one can't even tell the two apart anymore

due to living memory of it having died out nearly a millennia ago, the Galactic Empire has become shrouded in myth and legend

the Death Stars have been elevated to the status of Atlantis-like lost utopias

the galaxy is full of quasi-religious Neo-Imperial cargo cults attempting to reestablish it

one of them has gotten ahold of a partial technical blueprint of the original Death Star (found on a damaged hard drive that was accidentally left behind on Yavin IV when the Rebel Alliance evacuated the planet)

the only ones who actually know the full picture and can #CorrectTheRecord? C-3P0 and R2-D2, having been left unpowered in some random closet for centuries

all other characters from either trilogy who make a re-appearance do so in recorded format or as Force Ghosts

part of the story takes place in whatever the Star Wars afterlife is so we can have Hayden Christensen, Natalie Portman, Carrie Fisher, and Mark Hamill actually appear on-screen together for the first time (it's something I've always wanted to see happen as a way of finally tying the Original and Prequel Trilogies together in a substantive way)

also have Anakin state that he never had an apprentice as a means to retcon TCW (fuck Fagloni)

Think of it as the Neo-Assyrians or the various Roman LARPers over the ages, but in the Star Wars universe

I would have just told this story

so you would remake episode 4 again?

No, the New Republic is building some kind of megaweapon, Imperial Remnants steal it because they're small and very limited. The Remnants ally with a new army that will be setup to be the antagonists of the new trilogy.
The Imperial remnants would make their last play against the new republic before finally being snuffed out at the end of the battle. The New Republic mobilizes to fight against the new bad guy army introduced in this.

Star Forever Wars is boring to me. The Rebels vs Empire thing is finished and completely played out. I would bookend the Empire for good by the end of my movie. Things would have to move into a totally different direction. There would also be minimum Jedi stuff because Anakin's prophecy was complete so there are no more Sith. Truthfully episodes 7-9 aren't needed because the story is truly done after ROTJ.

That's why the best I've got is the Jacen/Caedus angle, he embraced the dark side because the power necessary to get what he wants done which is severing the Force's influence of life, believing it prevents free will and traps the universe in a dark rising, dark topples light, light rising, light topples dark on constant repeat.

This is a kino idea, wanting to break free from the Force eternally making its Light Side and its Dark Side alternate in supremacy. Wanting to break free from that cycle.

oh ok so you're one of those "hurr do it in reverse" retards, got it
i hope you didn't enjoy andor anon

It's a brutal blackpill for sure. Any one of us could have made a better and more soulful sequel trilogy than the three turds Disney pooped out.

even moreso telling when the stories presented in here are still shit and the wrong direction to take the series in yet leagues above and beyond anything disney has shat out so far

The audience themselves about who is right about the force, Luke or Jacen. But if he succeeds what is certain is a lot of people with a strong connection to the force (without even being full blown force users) will die/suffer and the galaxy will be thrown into chaos and destruction, something he knows but deems necessary. Haven't fully worked out the mechanics of plan, maybe something like an excursion to the realm of the Whills with Luke and Luke's daughter/his cousin who is like his sister (guess I'll call her Kira like the original plans did) but he's playing the long game, he gets some vessel that has imprisoned Abeloth. You all think he's her puppet and full blown dark side but really he takes this vessel imprisoning this dark force goddess and basically he and the Snoke equivalent perform all sorts of dark side magic on it so that it basically kills her, it's a dying force god within a vessel and it's gonna go critical, as he also lures the remaining Vong and the Alliance (so New Republic-Chiss/Imperial Remnant-Mandolorians) to a location for the mother of all battles unaware that the mother of all force-infused explosions will consume them all, thereby creating such a traumatic wound in the force that it will severe its direct influence on living beings and restore free will. I also come up with all this stuff in the past day when I am cooking for myself and cleaning so it's not perfect, may even be shit. Whatever. Jacen's whole journey is also rooted in personal trauma, it's not that he's some scared teenager at heart or whatever but those experiences shaped his initial journey and philosophy. The Snoke equivalent also redeems himself, him being so powerful in the dark side due to his own self loathing as an artificial creation of Palpatine and mired in fatalism constantly.

this is against the principle core ideas and values that star wars was founded on and abeloth is a shit character and design that also upends the concept

First Order are a small terroris organization. Kylo Ren being Ben Solo isn't know until movie 2 and he pretands to be a normie jedi by day

abeloth is a shit character and design that also upends the concept

Lol I know fuck all about her really, only as a plot device. Kill a djinn in a bottle after stringing it along = big boom.

Kylo

Anyone else always hated the name Kylo? It sounds so fucking gay.

Adapt the Young Jedi Knights books or any of the stories where one of Luke's students gets uppity and goes rogue. There's gotta be plenty of them and that's a safe and easy bet.

I think it's fine when you say it in full. But I just don't understand where he got that name from.

it's incredigay
literally "sKYwalker" and "soLO" put together. the story is that it was a nickname he made for himself as a kid.

Is that from a book or something? There's no way he's actually that much of a dork.

co-led by Thrawn/Snoke equivalent - Snoke equivalent has a known origin, as an artificial creature who's creation was kickstarted automatically when Palpatine died, a thing created, imbued with dark force energy, the blood/dna of Plagueis (he isn't an exact clone or Plagueis tho) and all the knowledge of the Sith to keep the order alive. He's pensive and almost resigned, as a puppet/slave of the dark side

Lmao you are ripping off the general quartich clone from avatar 2.

Lmao you are ripping off the general quartich clone from avatar 2.

...Not that I know. There's no memory transference, except the raw knowledge of the Sith downloaded into him. He's an artificial force sensitive creation that, on paper, exists to keep the Sith alive.

If George had made his sequels, you guys would have hated it just as much, if not more.

Ahsoka had several seasons of animated television to grow on people while Rey still just has those three shitty movies.

darth talon

I'd have paid good money for that.

I actually still hate Ahsoka and Rey. Rey I'm actually a bit more sympathetic to since the girls they get to play her are pretty hot, even Daisy Ridley too sometimes. But Ahsoka basically never looks good anywhere. Her outfits are good, but her face is always just so shit.

Years ago she was hated

Still do