For those who've seen it: how long are the flashbacks in the film?

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About an hour and a half. Honestly as long as you arrive in time for Cruise jumping into the ocean, you’re in for kino. Everything before that is an absolute slog

it's like 30 minutes of quick scene sets ups and flash backs before the intro rolls

I can confirm this. But even after 30 minutes, it's still moving veeeery slowly.

Endless. Bring your full meal and diaper if needed if you can't take a 3 hour movie. It's not just the flashbacks.

People keep mentioned the flashbacks but after seeing it yesterday, it hardly even registered to me. People are blowing it way out of proportion and I don't know why it's become one of the sticking points of the criticisms. I thought DR was so underwhelming that I appreciated the little reminders of the plot points they brought forward and the few brief clips they showed of the previous movies I thought was a cute celebration of all the moments that brought us to the final entry. The only 2 things I really didn't like was no crazy heist, but there's 7 other movies that have those thankfully, and Gabriel had shit presence 90% of the time but I appreciated the apocalyptic atmosphere, I thought the stakes were suitable for a final entry and while I rolled my eyes at the AI in DR, that plot point actually aged pretty well now considering you can fabricate entire news reports with AI now. It felt a little long, I wish we had more team kino instead of separating Tom from the main crew and it's not the best entry in the series but I still thought it was good and entertaining.

People are blowing it way out of proportion

They were annoying but mostly subsided after the first hour so this is true

not the best entry in the series

It's a very different movie though. As you said the others are basically heist movies, with a pretty rigid formula of stringing together several huge setpieces/stunts. But watching this I kept thinking of the Hunt for Red October, both for the setting obviously but also how it's more of a continual flow of events that doesn't dwell anywhere for long.

It's definitely a different movie, part of me was a little soured by that but I think it was warranted after 7 similar movies and it wasn't terribly executed either. It's not the best M:I ever but it's definitely among the best series finales I've seen. The sub scene is definitely top 3 M:I scenes of all time though. I just remember watching DR thinking "somehow that son of a bitch is making it on to that sub but how?" and I wasn't disappointed in the least, we even got bouncing Atwell titties at the end of it. More than makes up for not having a faster pace multi-person heist imo

The flashbacks themselves aren't long, normally short clips but there's a fucking million of them. Legit every reference to a previous film is accompanied by a flashback to make sure you know what they mean, sometimes the same flashback is repeated.

it's moreso callbacks to remind you of a character from the previous movies which I liked that they incorporated. Most were just a quick second cut. I would said the weakest part of the movie was the beginning. It was a series of fast scenes moving to one point to another and it felt a little jarring

It was a series of fast scenes moving to one point to another and it felt a little jarring

The editing and direction were definitely a weak point, maybe some of it was deliberately disorienting but even in scenes of people sitting in rooms every shot was a close up of someone's face and the camera kept jumping around. Shit was like the climax of 12 Angry Men, kind of a baffling creative decision. Everything else was kino so it didn't detract much fortunately.

this three hour slog of a movie sucked ass, it really did not use that time well
did anybody else notice that in the intro with all the flashbacks, they were reusing the exact same clips multiple times?

slog

Please share with us what parts felt like a slog to you.

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They even had flashbacks to THE SAME MOVIE. Literally flashbacks of stuff that happened 15 minutes ago.

It was a very lazily edited movie. Weird cuts. Stuff that didn't match.

Those were visions of how the mission would go

Longer than Tom Cruise

the flashbacks were used because test screenings were full of people who had no idea who certain characters were. the movie franchise is 30 yrs old now

There were those visions, but there were other times when it was just Cruise remembering a convernation that happened two scenes earlier. As if the movie was made for people to watch while barely paying attention and playing on their phone.

Do I have to watch the previous film to understand this one?

There was no reason they had to make the other movies relevant to Dead & Final Reckoning in the first place. Having the rabbits foot in MI3 be the precursor to the entity was pointless. Making the IMF chasing Ethan be Phelps Jr. was also pointless. No bearing on the plot.

nah he's right they flashbacked to Ving Rhames a lot.

The movie actually seemed terrified that audiences would forget the poison pill with the amount of times they flashed back or zoomed up to the thing.

As if the movie was made for people to watch while barely paying attention and playing on their phone.

movie was made for my gf then

i kind of miss when mission impossible was a team movie
this movie was just ethan doing stuff by himself while some random hanger-ons wait for the plot to catch up to them
did the black guy even do anything at all?

I miss when the movies were about spies doing small spy missions not this fast and furious shit.

anybody notice that a lot of the critics' review scores don't match the actual content of their review? it feels like they're really softballing this movie

this movie was just ethan doing stuff by himself while some random hanger-ons wait for the plot to catch up to them

been like that the fifth one

These last 2 movies had maybe the worst fucking villains in any modern movie I can remember.

An AI as a MI movie villian is stupid and Gabriel didn't do shit foir 2 movies.

which MI movie is your favorite? for me, 4

It's because while a lot of critics have issues with it, they have a soft spot for and love Cruise.

happens when each sequel feels compelled to up the stakes

the entity in this move is a non-entity, and gabriel is so unserious lol
he has the aura of a cartoon villain, and the final scene with the biplanes was just comedic instead of tense because he's doing an evil cartoon villain laugh the whole time not to mention that stupid fucking death lmao

McQuarrie’s feats lack the comic timing, composition, and emotionalism that cartoonist-director Brad Bird brought to the thrilling Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol (Ethan/Tom spider-walking the Burj Khalifa skyscraper and outrunning a dust storm, Paula Patton’s womanly catfight with Léa Seydoux). McQuarrie’s “real” action is not superior to digital f/x.

I dont even know what is plan was. He was tricked by the AI then mad at the AI.

Bros, I know our guy is getting up there, just how old does Cruise look in the film?

honestly, he doesn't look old
i wonder what he does to stay young like that
given how weird he is, i wouldn't be surprised if he was stapling someone else's scalp onto his head or drinking the blood of virgins, lmao

he's doing an evil cartoon villain laugh the whole time

That was kino though, I bought it because he had been established over both movies as highly confident. Working with the AI had inflated his ego and he thought he was unstoppable. Only the death was dumb.

the anime tier scene where his face is shadowed except for his eyes made me kek

why biplanes?

Nothing the AI could control

comfy stunting

a good answer for a mid movie

I love how the Russian sub was like 20 ft from the US sub chasing them.

What were they trying to go