Overthrow the tsar and kill all white people

The constant shilling and russian popaganda on this board is tiresome

Aren't russians the ones who killed the tsar?

my granddaddy was in Korea and hated russians, thats all the justification I need to hate them today.
I dont need some nu-male on youtube rambling about it

get with the new script. Qatar is controlling everything now

No, it was Bolshevik jews

Get outta my microwave Ivan

Keep worshiping the jew making Ukrops meatwave slaves btw, hilarious people cope about how people totally wouldnt prefer a ceasefire to this shit.
Do you seriously see much Russia propaganda? I dont encounter much.
Ruskis hated the tsar too cope.

just openly schizoposting now

what's the difference

Do you seriously see much Russia propaganda? I dont encounter much.

You're posting it right now

DUDE FUCK SHIT ASS PUSSY COCK

Boomers literally died laughing at this

DO YOU HATE YOUR CULTURAL ICONS YET AMERICAN PIG???

lol

reminder that only about 5% of the russian population were even literate in 1917, and jews have always held more prominent white collar positions with a focus on education. the fact that they were overrepresented in political life in russia at that time is simply because most of them could read and write. this is no heinous conspiracy, just how the world works

Ah so its any contrary view to what happens to make money for American arms manufacturers then, got it.

reminder that only about 5% of the russian population were even literate in 1917

not much has changed since then

Shalom.

I hate that preachy unfunny faggot so much

make money for American arms manufacturers

don't you want more jobs in the US you radical socialist? bullets and bombs are one of the few things still produced in north america, and feeding money to lockheed will be used to pay their employees in wisconsin

it's not the jews fault, they just have high IQs, that's why they're constantly involved in corruption

Nice try, Rabbi

Ah so its any contrary view to what happens to make money for American arms manufacturers then, got it.

what is? you left that part out in your haste to copy paste from the script in front of you

Do leftists really believe a rich boomer yelling random curse words is culture?

do you really believe you have a culture left at all Ivan?

guys i dont like mass immigration

You are an anti-human freak
Russian propaganda you moron the context is right there in what Im replying to jesus fuck you MiC shills are the dumbest on earth next to unironic ziggers

Were this faggot and Bill Hicks the progenitors of the "social commentary disguised as comedy" routine?

Why would I want to watch Coach Dead Pill? He ded lmao

you live in rural idaho, just shut the fuck up about mass immigration

man...that's crazy. It's like...in every conflict, every dispute, every time they've been criticized, attacked or opposed, on every continent, in every country, over thousands of years, they've always been the innocent party and the oppositional group has always been necessarily evil/inferior.

It's weird because jews always insist all races are equal yet, according to them, jews are also unassailably good - an angelic, unimpeachable race above all others. And all their enemies throughout the ages have been monsters, undeserving of humanity

your name must be Todd

ivan pivots the topic

Im sorry he just holocausted you by bringing it up, rabbi

getting mad at jews because they have the ethnic, religious and cultural homogenity that white people wish they had themselves

no man i dont like it

funny how it was instantly memory holed that the majority of posts on this site are from israel and the mods are federal agents, and they’re still larping about Russia bad

I notice you didn't call me liar

Both of them still told jokes tbf, I'd say the tipping point was Jon Liebowitz's Daily Show.
n.b. it all went sideways when they couldn't cope with Dubya Bush being president.

Yet they still don't have a homeland. They had to illegally buy a plot of land in Palestine lmao

Enjoy the ban vatnik scum. Don't watch this crap please, we've already flagged it for removal.

Is it a pro-Russian position to oppose mass immigration to my country? How does Russia benefit exactly?

Im so glad the west doesnt ever ever astroturf and do propaganda thats just a russia thing and any opinion that goes against american imperial interest is from Russia or Qatar or someplace bad.

Qatar is a US ally, chud.

Also any opinion I dont like personally especially if it goes against jewish interests

defending your own national interests, committing to international alliances and values and enforcing peace are the good kind of imperialism. literally nothing wreong with america throwing its weight around to make sure everyone plays nice with eachother

youtube.com/watch?v=KmIr5HyRwE0

Any other Christians here?

rural Idaho

implying mass immigration isn’t happening all over the country now and not just in major urban centers or southern border states like decades ago

Don't look into Ryan Wesley Routh's Ukrainian affiliations. You're a Russian chud if you do.

defending your own national interests, committing to international alliances and values and enforcing peace are the good kind of imperialism

Every empire would argue that this is the only kind of imperialism, the only bad imperialism is when someone besides your own empire is attempting it.

Tell that to hysterics crying about Qatar
Thats not how America behaves or ever has and ‘national interests’ is not actually the peoples interests is it? You actually mean modern day aristocracy interests.

wtf is he talking about

reminder that Obama deported 12 million illegals between 2008-2015 and you still hated him.

getting mad at jews because they have the ethnic, religious and cultural homogenity that jews and their self-loathing white allies worked hard to prevent common whites to maintain

corrected it

and yet Russia still honors their legacy and likes larping as USSR

The Obama admin figures are heavily skewed by border encounters. Deportations of illegals from the US itself were low under Obama. So far in Trump's 2nd term border encounters have been very low due to deterrence, while he's focused on deporting illegals from the US.

Yeah but changing definition of ‘deportation’ and all that
They had cool af aesthetics tbf

"white people" never had a common identity, cultural, religious, ethnic or otherwise. the concept of white is malleable and has always been. it changes a lot.

literally no englishmen in the 19th century wouldve seen themselves equal with an irish, a slav, italian or hungarian. yet nowadays they somehow all are considered "white"
this concept will continue to expand, because it has no basis in reality and is purely a loose "cultural" term. which makes even less sense in an algamated culture like american

Is America merely an idea?

it is an idea of culture and values, not rooted in blood or ethnicity

Do you think it's Russian propaganda to claim America is more than an idea?

Is it stolen land like Israel?

no, being american is lived every day by millions of people. american culture is unique because theoretically, everyone can become american if they want to. its not a blood or soil heritage from your parents like most other cultures. its a practical effort everyday

“brown people" never had a common identity, cultural, religious, ethnic or otherwise. the concept of brown is malleable and has always been. it changes a lot.

literally no nigerian in the 19th century wouldve seen themselves equal with a Somalian, an Ethiopian, Zulu or Congolese. yet nowadays they somehow all are considered "brown"
this concept will continue to expand, because it has no basis in reality and is purely a loose "cultural" term.

I actually loved him even just for that reason alone. Surprisingly the Supreme Court didn’t put a stop to his deportations.

Hey Ivan your thread was supposed to be about George Carlin remember

We managed to derail his thread and talk about important matters like mass immigration and our opposition to it. Russian chud defeated.

its not a blood or soil heritage from your parents

It is for founding-stock Americans. They're the ones who reply "American" when asked about their ancestry in surveys.

America isnt even an idea in the way you describe its not that deep, its a territorial monopoly on the legitimate use of violence or whatever. Every American is subject to the law of American states, but there is a massive rift in values among the population. There are an array of meaningful identities but national identity is kind of the most meme of all.

I think this country is a tyrannical shithole

I am going to live there and talk shit about it in the middle of an active war

Really, what did he think was going to happen?

An idea of culture and values that generated within people of a common ethnicity

America is just an idea

Is such shitty American exceptionalism, as if no other nations where created after an “idea” its founder got and fought to turn into a reality

its not a blood or soil heritage from your parents like most other cultures…

except for those whose families have been here for centuries and have ancestors who legitimately poured blood/died to create it and shape it.
Not everyone got here through Ellis Island in the 1900’s or after the immigration reforms of the ‘60s.

but there is a massive rift in values among the population.

this kind of diversity in ethnicity, opinions and values is also part of the american culture. what is means to be american gets re-invented with every generation, the "american project" is not finished and probably never will. different groups of american people try different things at different times, but they all operate under the umbrella of transformative american culture

Not everyone got here through Ellis Island in the 1900’s or after the immigration reforms of the ‘60s.

america had barely 50 million people in 1880 and 400 million today. most people got here later, that doesnt mean they are less american than the first pioneers.
the ability to BECOME american was one of the reasons this country was so successful in the first place

So it literally just means nothing really, your acting like america is more unique than it is so you can brand your globohomo ideas as based american patriotism and its lame. I dont care about national identity so much myself but its reasonable for people to want the people ruling them to be rooted in the same territory with a loyalty to it, and the rooted people who live there.

America being ascendant is what made it an attractive destination, not the other way around. It speaks volumes that the South had a reputation for an agrarian economy, yet if they had attained independence the CSA would still be in the top 5 most industrially advanced countries in the world. America was a continent-sized country, with an ocean at each side and a great river running through its heart, and a highly capable people with an industry rivalling that of Britain. They didn't need the immigrants, the immigrants needed them.

america had barely 50 million people in 1880

Most countries had less citizens back then, the UK had around 30 millions, France ca. 35, Germany around 40. That doesn’t mean they are less American than the Ellis Islanders.

doesn’t mean they are less american than the first pioneers.

It means that “soil and blood” doesn’t apply much to them but it is a legitimate reality for those who trace their ancestry to a more ancient and founding history.

It makes sense that “recent” Americans are mostly those who push to delegitimize/undervalue the “soil and blood” Americans in the never ending battle for control of the narrative of the so-called American Project.

I’m not judging, taking sides, just pointing it out.

this is only true post 1880 when america clearly was on a global upswing already, but the topic of mass immigration is older than that. it just used to be irish, italians and jews in 1850 instead of latinos and browns today.

immigration and economic prosperity is a chicken-egg problem, but I believe in the long term both have positively reinforced america and made it better.

if they had closed the borders completely after the civil war and only let in a few hundred thousand white englishmen, the US would be nowhere near be the global superpower it is today

Eat shit you filthy zigger

comrade how does anyone know we're russian shills spamming

you russian queers get dumber by the fucking day

the US would be nowhere near be the global superpower it is today

And why would that dent the interest of founding-stock Americans to wrestle back their identity of America - after seeing what becoming a global superpower entailed for them? They would still be prosperous. They'd take that trade-off.

I wonder how many americans can actually document that their ancestors really came here by ship in the 17th century when it was still a british colony. There's also the question to me of which ancestor exactly. they got 256 great-great-great-great grandparents. at least some of them must have been here a long time.

when that documentationgot lost and is not a family heirloom, and they are white and have lived in the greater boston area as far back as they know, they will probably default to "american" which makes sense if you don't have an obvious irish last name like McConnel or something.

blood and soil idea of american heritage obviously exists for people, I just want to argue that, even for most white people, its probably a lot more complex than that

and they are white and have lived in the greater boston area as far back as they know,

Most of people with blood-and-soil American identity are from the Deep South-Appalachia/the Heartland in general, not really Boston

Eat shit you filthy zigger

america becoming a superpower and getting involved in international affairs has unironically been a net positive on the world, including the american people themselves.
political and economic isolationism for the sake of protecting your bloodlines is a losing game, especially in the modern world

fair, but that doesnt change the underlying question if they can document their 12th generation descendancy from french/spaniards or if they simply say "american" for reasons of lack of documentation or plenty of mixed ancestry along the way thats hard to re-trace

Brief History of the USSR

As soon as Lenin died, it turned out that the second man in the party, Comrade Trotsky, was a traitor. Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin and Stalin overthrew Trotsky and expelled him from the USSR.

But a couple of years later it turned out that Kamenev, Zinoviev and Bukharin were also enemies and pests. Then the valiant comrade Henry Yagoda shot them.

A little later, Yagoda, as an enemy agent, shot Yezhov.

But a couple of years later it turned out that Yezhov was not a comrade, but an ordinary traitor and enemy agent. He was shot by Beria.

After Stalin’s death, everyone realized that Beria was also a traitor. Then Zhukov overthrew and shot Beria.

But soon Khrushchev learned that Zhukov was an enemy and conspirator. And sent Zhukov to the Urals.

A little later it was revealed that Stalin was an enemy, a pest and a traitor. And with him and most of the politburo. Then Stalin was taken out of the mausoleum, and the Politburo and Shepilov, who joined them, were dispersed by honest party members, led by Khrushchev.

Several years passed and it turned out that Khrushchev was a voluntarist, a crook, an adventurer and an enemy. Then Brezhnev sent Khrushchev to retire.

Soon Brezhnev died, and it turned out that he was a senility, a pest and the cause of stagnation.

Then there were two more senility, which no one had time to remember, because they died like flies.

But here came to power a young, energetic Gorbachev. And it turned out that the whole party was a party of pests and enemies, but he will correct everything now...

That’s when the USSR collapsed. Gorbachev was an enemy and a traitor.

america becoming a superpower and getting involved in international affairs has unironically been a net positive on the world, including the american people themselves.

political and economic isolationism for the sake of protecting your bloodlines is a losing game, especially in the modern world

I see, your cultural identity revolves around hating niggers

It had been a net positive for standards of living, mostly in terms of comfort and high-access/low-effort stimulation(TVs, smartphones). Many of them would be willing to forgo food-surplus industry as well if it means having their country back. I refuse to believe advancements in sanitation and drops in infant mortality hinged on mass migration for example.

why do the threads making fun of Carlin specifically summon the one ass blasted redditor calling everyone ivans?

watch this shitskin pedo

No, I don't think I will

nah, don't think I will. I'm not brown and incel enough.

Theres a false dichotomy between total isolationism and American hegemony thats always played with here, and hegemony has been horrible for the world but whats good for Americans is a different convo with possibly different conclusions. So much of the conflict America has been involved in has been contrived and provoked and the lives of foreigners and Americans alike have meant nothing to the ‘people’ actually pulling the strings.

prosperity has many different layers and cheap electronics and media are simply the most current expression of that.

there are positive feedback loops if your country has economic and political weight so you can positively influence other countries as well and protect and enforce global standards in values, trade and diplomacy.
It's been a good thing that this leadership role was achieved by america, because a democracy like this fights its battles out in the open, has room to learn and grow from mistakes, and at least TRIES to do the right thing.

if it means having their country back

I honestly don't understand this point. who is taking your country away from you? I'm not even memeing. There's still plenty of freedom to go around with how the governmental layers work in the US, what happens in washington or in another state half a continent away has little bearing on your everyday life anyways. you have your place and part of the pie and can do whatever you want with it

every government has corruption, but I prefer democracies that are at least somewhat accountable and can be challenged in public, in courts and in elections, than some other country who will pull even more shit in the shadow.

the power of hegemony is already here in the world and it won't go away, that cat is already out of the bag.
in case the US retreats back into isolationism, there will just be another player who steps up (China or Russia) which will be much worse for everyone involved.

You are such an incredulous goycattle or a deliberate propagandist, dont give us this democracy and trying to do the right thing crap everyone knows is BS. Americans enslave the world for their benefit, really the freaks at the top running the show are all about this and do it for their own benefit primarily.

Well funny enough that was exactly the attitude. Even after Ellis Island, internationalist world wars, the Warren Court, Civil-rights, Hart–Celler, counter-culture, increased godlessness and so on, there was still a compliance and a general instinct to still play on the defense(warning "they're trying to change our country" when your country was changed for many decades now...) but recently a veil was torn. It does look like accelerating demographic change as well as increasingly hostile sentiments towards them from the establishment class had caused a siege mentality to emerge. Throughout all this time they were the traditional fighting force of the US Army after all, but only recently we have seen recruitment efforts reach crisis. They're not willing to serve an Army which they don't see as fighting for their country.

I seriously doubt China is necessarily worse for everyone involved, or that Russia and China are really the only other powers to think about. If America fucked off more this great game wouldnt be the thing you think it is, thered be more local autonomy in other parts of the world because the power wouldve been built up, America likes to fuck other nations to make them dependant and yeah I can see China becoming the new dependancy for a while at least if America backs away and they might pull the same tricks but still fuck both of you.

it all makes sens now

not enough twists for Anon Babble

China will pull the exact same Gitmo and blackops shit if they sit on top, the only difference is that you won't hear about it or be able to criticize them for it, so in essence they would be worse because it will be harder for bad things to see the light of day and be corrected. you can meme about jews pulling the strings all you want, american foreign policy still happens largely in the open and the government is accountable to their people and to the international community at large, they at least have to pretend to be the good guy and justify their use of violence. China won't

But I generally agree that there would likely be multiple contenders emerging for a few decades until a real new superpower emerges. It wouldnt happen overnight with China just slipping into the shoes. But this military, economic and political struggle would still be bad for everyone involved and a net drain on wealth and prosperity for the people