For most of the series it felt completely aimless with nothing propelling the story forward in a meaningful way outside of the stuff with Mike and Gus. I still enjoyed it mostly, but why are there people who think it's an amazing show equally as compelling as BB?
Are there really people who think Better Call Saul is better than Breaking Bad?
I live close enough to New Mexico to not be dazzled by two tv shows showing it to be a sunblasted hellhole. I'm well aware.
Breaking Bad was always a goofy live action cartoon for adults.
two face gus
i am le one who knocks
bbbb-bonfire
machine gun in trunk killing nazis
magnets bitch
any scene with le 4d chessmaster gus
it's not le meth
the two assassin brothers
And filled with bad acting especially by Cranston.
I think S1 of Better Call Saul is some of the tightest writing that universe has ever had. It slowly went downhill after that though, especially once they went in really heavy on Gus again.
It was kino when it had less actiony goycattle appeal, better when it was less for everyone because its ‘boring’
the best characters in BCS were not in BrBa unless mentioned in passing.
This. Even with BB so many of the die hard fans would say S1 isn't good, too slow, etc. When in reality it's one of the best. BCS had the same trajectory. Good at the beginning and just goes full retard. Don't get me wrong, it's still watchable and entertaining but it's not as good as the slower paced stuff.
tl;dr bb fans are the type of retards that say the sopranos is boring
Up to S3 I thought it was better than breaking bad. It just had more artistic integrity when it was still trying to be a low stakes show about Jimmy's personal drama. They did really good stuff without relying on insane cliffhangers and people getting murdered all the time. But it quickly went to shit when they dropped their original concept and went all in on making a shitty breaking bad knockoff.
Mike posting was the best thing to come out of those later seasons.
Season 1 BB was never topped. Maybe for BCS as well but I cant distinguish S1 and S2 in my head without rewatching, both solid and S2 BB had lots that felt like a straight continuation but lots that felt different and it just got dumb. The show went bad from there, relatively speaking because none of it was trash, all entertaining but one of the many things that bothered me was how death was a BIG deal at the start, whole lotta drama and great moments dealing with the dead bodies from the very first episode and eventually you just get to massacres over nothing.
breaking bad is the most overrated tv series of all time. im not saying BCS is better but people need to stop pretending BrBa is even it the goat discussion
Why can't Anon Babble have a BB/BCS thread without soipranos spergs invading?
One person mentioned soipranos, and there can hardly be a thread about these shows at all because they arent soiwars
The series jumped the shark when they stopped cooking in the RV
You have the joker Gus and his squad of aura farmers
Grandpa batman
Aura farming twins
I know a guy Saul
The first 3 seasons of BCS is better than Breaking Bad aside from its 1st season
To me, Better Call Saul is more impactful, better scripted, and honestly has been acting too. IMO the first 3 seasons are some of the best television ever created. I don't care if you think I'm boring, or subhuman for believing this. I know I am right and I am superior to you in every way imaginable.
Even the later seasons still had gems like Bagman.
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Gus wasnt terrible and the asspulls with Saul were mostly forgivable, the twins were really the peak embodiment of the problem with the later seasons and the plane blowing up over Walters house was the real shark jump moment.
No. Gus was the beginning of the end. Especially with that scene where he detected the car bomb with his psychic powers.
But yeah, the butterfly effect of the planes crashing was peak stupidity.
he vibe checked Jessie in the hospital chapel and knew something was off. I get it's played as 'how did he know??' and I'm not denying smart gus in general is cringe but it did have some setup despite what people say
did have some setup despite what people say
vibe checked Jessie in the hospital chapel
The Gus silliness at least had some good payoff to it, having them graduate to a proper lab felt like earned progression and put them in an interesting situation. The plane crash thing was pointless beyond key & peele sketch tier ‘consquences maaane’ bullshit. Also the dynamic between Hector and Gus was good and a perfect way to kill both of them off, especially because of the moral dubiousness of bombing an old folks home and how that reflects on Walt who is supposed to get more dubious as things go on.
go watch the scene retard. If you want to be spoonfed Jessie mentions to Gus that Brock was poisoned and knows Jessie is gauging to see if he did it, as this is after he confronted Walt. It's not a stretch that Gus realizes Walt is up to something, he was dragged to a public place because Jessie wouldn't cook and knew he was vulnerable
I haven't seen BB in years but I know this. Imagine being this dense and insecure you post a gif with a green text quote instead of contributing to the conversation at all. Sad!
Both BrBa and BCS were peak while the protag was still trying to be on the straight and narrow while struggling to hide/deal with being forced to break bad. Once they got rid of that aspect and switched to Jack Bauer Mike and leaned into cartel stuff, both shows stopped with their initial drama premise and turned into actionslop, albeit entertaining actionslop. In addition, last season of Breaking Bad, after Gus got bombed, felt especially tacked on and pointlessly meandering from start to finish, they really should have wrapped it up sooner.
It's not, I ended up skipping to the end,
I though I was in for Saul doing Boston Legal like hi-jinks and speeches.
Instead it was 3 seasons of "Wah my brother hates me and doesn't believe in me". Then he dies. Then the company won't pay him his million, so him and his girlfriend torture a guy to the point of attempted suicide then in inadvertently get him murdered.
Then Saul does stupid shit that gets him found out and arrested, then runs his mouth do to pride and turns a 7 year sentence into a life sentence.
It sucked.
And while were at it, Breaking Bad was just barely watchable. By season 2 of that I had to fast forward through any part involving Walt's Wife, Son, Brother/Sister-in-law. So that was like skipping 1/3 of each episode.
You want a better show than Breaking Bad? Use your time watching the Sopranos.
Want a better show than Better Call Saul?
Use your time watching Boston Legal.
Boston Legal is so good. Just gets better each season. Season 1&2 of Boston Legal is ehhhh, but Season 3 onward is fucking Great.
Denny Crane.
Alternatively I think they could of kept it going a bit longer if they had committed to what was being done in S5 better, Walt becoming the new Gus, and not so graciously learning what that actually means. Personally I think they did a decent enough job with it anyway, though the best part of the ending was the closing of the penultimate episode with the finale being also just decent really. S5 did just need to be better for the finale to be good.
But Brent, flying heads! That displays A great imagination
S1-2 of BCS is the most realistic TV show about being a lawyer that's ever been made.
Boston Legal.
Boston Legal would be great if their gimmick wasn't the core of every single episode. As is, it gets tiring to watch the same formulaic: get case, big baddie (opposing council) is all rude and terse, then David Spade presents the most basic bitch argument or piece of evidence and the other side falls apart like a wet napkin. It could work once in a while but the show would be way better if it wasn't used all the time and if the protags occasionally got humbled instead of getting flawless Ws every time
Using phrases like vibe check make you sound goofy as fuck.
Not really unexpected from a breaking soiboy.
David Spade
Kek. I think you mean James Spader.
David Spade is the SNL guy.
It's fucking overrated and only exists on the goodwill of Breaking Bad. The fucking lawyer never needed an origin story. And when Odenkirk is playing "Jimmy" instead of "Saul" he's boring asf.
All of the stand-offs have no stakes because we know the returning characters will live.
And it destroys the illusion of a prequel when most of the cast look old and haggard.
It spent whole seasons swimming in a circle and rushed the development at the end. In many ways, it was Gilligan disappearing up his own ass. If he'd been less pretentious and just had a steady development and had a final full season of Saul as we knew him just having low stakes "adventures" it would have been infinitely more enjoyable. Instead we just got whole episodes of slow meandering nothing. Wasted opportunity. All the cope I hear is pretty bad
Not during disagreeing about BCS, but let's not pretend as if BB isn't overrated as fuck.
It has a 9.9 rating in imdb but has many goofy moments and hammy acting.
True, but at least BB was its own thing. BCS is just member-berry slop.
my thoughts exactly
the Chuck seasons were unbridled kino
Chuck dying so early was a huge misstep. Without his foil Saul feels like a lost cameo character in the subsequent seasons which are all about the cartel related characters. The show really wants me to care about an incredible OOC version of Gus, a navy seal version of Mike, and Nacho who may as well have "I'm gonna die" tattoo'd on his forehead. But I don't. I cared about Saul and Chuck's dynamic. Kim and Howard are much more interesting supporting characters than the BB oldfags. I can't rate it above BB because it simply stops being Saul's show with his cast and morphs into a bad version of BB without Walter and Jesse.
the show failed to convince me Jimmy and Saul are the same character
Jimbo comes across as more introverted and much less sociopathic
Very true, it's reddit incarnate
vibe checked
aura farming
the zoomers were right in this case
those two aura farming brothers looked cool but were clearly incompetent
Season 1 of Breaking Bad is much more slow and subdued than any season of The Sopranos. people who don't like it probably just had perfect families and can't relate to the extreme realism.
I will always think of BB as the closest the west has to Death Note
BCS has the best seasons/episodes. BB is the better show as a whole. None of them are in the top 10 of all time. /thread
loved the brother drama stuff, the rest was ok, some highlights here and there. just by virtue of being solidly made and not majorly jewed its far better than almost any other show made in the last 2 decades
Nah, bringing in Gus made it interesting again. I can't even remember what happened in season 2 other that switching the numbers shit, and that wasn't until the penultimate episode.
I think S1 of Better Call Saul is some of the tightest writing that universe has ever had
Agreed. Season 2 and 3 are still good as well but after that the show went from being its own thing to becoming Breaking Bad: The Prequel Story and it completely lost me.
But damn that first season is very comfy and well written.