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The show fucked up in how it handled the "betrayal" because in the show it was just Jon letting the wildings in, which, while questionable and broughr about some problems, was arguably "for the greater good" and Jon was in the right, so his enemies seem completely unjustified, just bigoted, short-sighted assholes. But in the book it wasn't this which incited the revolt, it was him abandoning his duties and declaring he was riding south with an army to fight the Boltons and liberate Winterfell, 100% betraying his vows and involving himself in southron politics for personal reasons.
While it is compltely understandable from a personal and emotional perspective why he does this, it's also completely understandable why his comrades are horrified and disgusted by this.
Example #116 why the show is a dogshit adaptation that misses every single bit of nuance of the books
There should have been a 20 minute scene of Jon buttfucking Satin.
davos also immediately into him
this guy i just met who was resurrected by the woman i loathe? following him until i die lmao
he needed a job, be fair
The show got worse each season but dropped off a cliff in season 5 when they started seriously diverting from the source material
Martin may be a fat piece of shit lazy motherfucker but at least he knows how to script a good story. Every single divergence they made from his work was for the worse.
she's the smartest person i know
oh yeah, then why did she get buttfucked? lmao
5D chess
I dunno Martin had a lot of terrible sideplots by the end, Brienne's was tedious and unending, Victarion's was going nowhere, zombie catelyn was shit. There's a reason Martin won't finish and it's DoD being dogshit.
I absolutely despite Victarian as a character and don't enjoy his chapters but at the very least they show a pure, unfiltered depiction of ironborn culture and autism whereas Theon and Asha show a more alternative/modern reimagining of it. He is a dumb brute, basically a Barbarian class in a D&D campaign, and while this can be very simplistic it's also kind of fun as a contract to how scheming and manipulative all the other POV characters are.
I honestly kind of like Brienne's storyline. Yes it's very slow and tedious and dry but if you approach the series from a less fantasy/action-adventure perspective and more from the perspective of a thematic/historical perspective it's pretty damn great. This is one of the first times we see the consequences of the actions of the "big" POV characters, like these people like Eddard, Catelyn, Tyrion, Jaime, etc., believe they are doing the right thing and make decisions that involve dragging the country into war, but it isn't until Brienne's POV that we see the absolute misery and suffering of the common people forced into it. It isn't quite a "subversion" of the trope of the good knight, because Brienne is genuinelly a good knight, but it puts her into such absolutely horrific, miserable, depressing situations that it really tests how far someone can stay good in such a time.
Her storyline is completely irrelevant to the overall plot of the series but it's extremely important for the themes and multiple subplots/side-characters.
Also, she has arguably the single most brave and heroic moment in the entire series where she defends the inn full of orphaned children from the psycho bandits, even after they threaten to rape and torture her, and she massively outnumbered, she still draws her sword and swears to die defending them against overwhelming odds, in her final chapter. This is such an incredible moment and I get chills every time.
where she defends the inn full of orphaned children from the psycho bandits
It was bizarre how they gave Brienne so many OC fight scenes but never bothered to adapt this in some form
D&D hated books 4 and 5 and openly said they didn't even want to adapt them so it makes sense. They basically just rewrote everything after Book 3, even the bits of those books that are genuinely great.
robb, why didn't you just tell me the fucking plan?
oops
I still wonder if it was intended as a "Robb dun goofed" thing or if GRRM legit didn't get how castles worked.
this is nobodys fault but the fat fuck himself.
Dumb and Dumber had to wing it because there was no new material
Edmure you fucking retard, I can't believe you didn't follow the plan that I never told you about, the plan that was so important it could have won the war for us, you complete moron
by the way, I've ruined our alliance with the Freys so I can fuck some Volantene nurse
sit down uncle
But even when they had tons of source material to adapt they decided to ignore it and make their own shit. They had like 1,500 pages worth of material to adapt in books 4-5 and ignored 95% of it in seasons 4-6 and they ended up being dogshit. Martin himself said they'd have at least 3-4 seasons worth of material to adapt and they rushed through it all in one season.
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I am taking a guess here and say that they probably did that because GRRM gave them the ending and they scrapped everything that they had no clue how to implement to get to the ending.
I doubt they hated zombie Caitlyn, she just was not mentioned in the ending so they just scrapped it.
Again nobodys fault but Fatso
In the book its Edmure who abandons the castle to strike the Lannisters at the river-cross. He is gloryhound and bored inside the castle. Dunno did he completely go against Robbs plan tho in that.
robb just told him to defend his castle, when edmure hears the mountain was burning and looting the small folk he said fuck that guy, rode out and routed him, then robb goes
wtf my plan was to lure him deeper into the area, which would hurt your people, and i didn't tell you this because...uhh
He didn't abandon the castle, he guarded the fords near it because guarding territory around a castle is part of holding one.
Every single divergence they made from his work was for the worse.
Nah, Arya and Tywin scenes were kino.
Not sure why you're defending/apologising for D&D
There's a fuckton of cool and interesting storylines and character developments they scrapped in favour of lame, cheap, low-IQ dogshit for the lowest common denominator.
because they were hired to make a show with an ending.
ofc they scrap everything that is open ended or has no real connection to the ending.
zombie caitlyn is wasted money. every "drama" in the east is wasted money.
Obviously fake aegon and victarion and all that shit has no connection to the ending, so they scrapped it
Not really. It was very out-of-character for Twyin. In the books, as well as in seasons 1 and 3-4 he is a cold, stern, unapolegetically high-noble born asshole that doesn't tolerate backchat or banter. Him letting a presumably peasant girl backchat and sass him is absolutely ridiculous and serves as a sort of "whitewashing" of him to make him look softer and more chill when he absolutely is not.
In the books her convos with Roose Bolton also have way more direct plot relevant because Bolton is the one to go on to fuck over and betray her family right afterwards, and through her POV we see part of his motives as to why before he does it.
Right, but by that logic every character except Bran and Dany and Jon should have been removed, right? Since they aren't DIRECTLY 100% related to the end-game? So we should get rid of every other charater and their storylines, no matter how brilliantly written and fascinating and nuanced and exciting. Because all that matters is "I DUN WAN IT!" and Bran being king, right? That's all you care about?
Upvoted, brah.
thats all that show creators care about that know that a show ends.
this is not an endless soap opera.
you are absolutely correct, if George doesnt give them any concrete source material, they should scrap everything they can
Interesting
Well, I am very glad you are not a writer
You sound like the type of guy that thinks a Wikipedia summary is the same as reading entire novel, just include the most basic, blunt plot points, none of the style or charm or nuance or beauty of the prose or development. In other words, utterly soulless.
Retard
this is all meaningless. D&D ending is CANON. the show IS the legacy of the entire world of A Song of Ice and Fire.
Whatever they did, they did the right thing. Just on principle because the OG creator is in a coma or dead or doesn't give a fuck anymore. Who knows
there are anons who are unironically fans of Littlefinger and want his schemes to succeed
why
Becaush chaosh ish a laddah.
based
why did greyworm execute prisoners of war but leave the killer of his queen alive for a trial?
Because he is literally us.
we're based?
feck off
Plus they're crying as they stab him to death. In the show, they're all lining up to stab him. It looks like a bunch of villains, not saddened brothers. Jew & Jew are truly dogshit, as is the fat man himself
A ship armada sneak attacked a flying dragon
AAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
It's genuinely baffling
Ahh ... the classic rectally swallowing a dick move
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Edmure was too kind to Robb. He should have slapped his nephews shit and told him what's what. KINGmure wouldn't haved pulled that "king of the north" shit.
it's GRRM's fault that D&D refused to adapt two of the books he wrote because the only thing they actually cared about was getting to be The Guys who adapted the Red Wedding