Was he based or cringe?
Was he based or cringe?
goes in a 10 minute incoherent rant
this is considered GOAT acting by boomers
worst part of the movie
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Cringe.
Cringe but based
Fpbp
So many old movies are unwatchable, but people need to praise it because others praised it before them and you can't hate them even though they're badly made and the actors can't act, because we all have to pretend that we're in film school and have to admire them due to film history reasons or whatever they meant at the time.
Nobody cares about that, you fags.
Things moved forward. Acting got better. Scenes are done better nowadays.
Keep sucking off the academy and whatever critics thought was amazing back then.
If you have to ask, you're just an errand boy...
Most overrated movie ever.
...you do have a right to delete my post but you've no right to ban me
he was rambling too much but the head scene was beyond all kino.
Heart of darkness Kurtz was based, dementia-ridden Brando Kurtz was cringe
won't learn his lines and had to read them from a book
Do your job you fat faggot
He was based, but he was more based in the book
Shitskinned subhuman is talking. Listen and learn
Zoomer opinion disregarded.
no counter argument
Keep seething, lol
but he doesn't talk in the book! he has zero lines of dialogue, Kurtz literally never says anything beyond one or two sentences, but everyone in the book is always talking about how smart he is
THE HORROR
THE HORROR
people like the idea of Kurtz, like the people in the book, but there is nothing interesting about Kurtz in the book.
In the book he's learnt about through his reports, including one regarding the suppression of savage customs
had you read the book, you would know this
Kurtz? Pretty cringe. Like come on, reading The Golden Bourgh past the age of 30?
Are you talking about his 'LE EXTERINATE ALL THE BRUTES' memo, because that's also barely a paragraph of actual Kurtz talking and it's just some dumb field report. Literally nothing impressive about this guy. I was a bigger fan of the narrator, I like when he talks about the book he finds in cipher which is actually russian script or something, or when he laments the guy who turned for him and got shot. The narrator is endearing, Kurtz sux.
U got filtered, Mahmud.
Marlon Brando was paid $1 million in advance. He threatened to quit and keep the advance. Francis Ford Coppola told his agent that he didn't care and if they couldn't get Brando they would try Jack Nicholson, Robert Redford or Al Pacino. Brando eventually turned up late, drunk, and about 88 pounds (40 kg.) overweight. He admitted he hadn't read the script or "Heart of Darkness". He read Coppola's script and refused to do it. After several days of arguments over single lines of dialogue, Coppola agreed to an ad-lib style script with Brando filmed mostly in shadows.
I quite like the "pile of little arms" speech, but yeah it's not an ideal ending. The whole movie builds to finally meeting Kurtz and he's just this babbling burnout waiting to be hacked to death by Willard. You expect him to have discovered some profoundly deep insight in the depths of his madness but he just kind of lies there being fat and yelling at Dennis Hopper instead. Oh well, still a pretty good movie.
But he has, anon, he's seen through the bullshit and knows that the only solution is to fully exterminate the enemy, no holds barred.
Are his methods unsound?
exterminate the enemy, no holds barred.
and with extreme prejudice
Mehmet
my son
The whole movie builds to finally meeting Kurtz and he's just this babbling burnout waiting to be hacked to death by Willard
That was the fucking point, I thought
if he could have 10 divisions of men ready to go all the way, their troubles in Vietnam would be over very soon
Kurtz was right in order to win the war. But it would have needed to happen earlier. Big army stays behind. Spec Ops, Airborne units, and Marines in the bush. In 1966-67 the 101st and 173rd were kicking ass all over the central highlands and had destroyed 2 NVA regiments along with crippling the VC supply routes. Did the Army consolidate gains and continue pushing forward to effectively cut off the remaining VC in the South and keep the NVA across the border? No they left the area to let the enemy regroup. And by 1968 too many of the troops were drafted/conscripted rather then volunteers and were unmotivated/unsuited for the type of combat that was needed
Yes
continue pushing forward to effectively cut off the remaining VC
Forwards into where?
the Ho Chi Minh trail was incredibly resilient, because it went through thick jungle across the border in neighboring countries.
he was right that to win a dirty war like that you need to be stripped of morality and just ruthlessly eliminate your enemies. But he was never going to get the backing from the top brass to do that
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Your meltdown is hilarious, keep going.
You don't get it, he called him Mehmet, which makes him win this argument instantly.
Yes the 101st and 173rd should have been directed into Laos and Cambodia to finish the job. And they should have built a base in Dak To after Operation Hawthorne in 1966.
Binge
he was binge.
Basically yeah. It's necessarily anti-climactic. But if you say that you get "it's good because it's MEANT to be shit lmao"
At least Coppola had the sense to abandon the original ending
Coppola was increasingly coming unstuck when it came to the ending. He didn’t like the gung-ho version envisioned by scriptwriter Milius: “Attila the Hun [i.e., Kurtz] with two bands of machine-gun bullets around him, taking Willard by the hand and screaming, ‘Yes, yes, here! I can feel the power in my loins!’ as he's firing wildly. Willard converts to Kurtz’ side; in the end, they're both firing up at the helicopters that are coming for Kurtz, crying out crazily. A movie comic.”
Bringe
based
holy BASED
He was cased