Are video games better than movies?

This is better than any Star Wars movie or TV show

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I don't care because star wars hasn't been good since 1983

That depends, have you ever jacked off to a video game? Checkmate.

You have to be 18+ to post on this site.

This didn’t even have a proper ending

This is better than any Star Wars movie or TV show

reddit is down the hall and to the left

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I heard the rat is considering making some kotor slop. So you can look forward to this being ruined by them as well

yes

How would you have ended it? Wrong answers only please.

it's not canon no matter how much you want to believe it is

canon is irrelevant

canon

implying that means anything anymore

Just enjoy the Lucas movies and whatever apocrypha you like beyond that.

Was Sith Lords better than the original?

lmao

better than any Star Wars movie or TV show

The EU awaits you young faggot

No. They have insane amounts of potential but remain far from reaching even a fraction of it.
This.

It is blatantly unfinished and requires mods to add the unfinished content back in. Although to be fair if you want to watch the OT, you're best off downloading a fan remaster that doesn't have the special edition changes too.

Andor is the only piece of great Star Wars media that isn't released in a fucked up state, making it the best.

Just different. Kotor1 was just one long collection of Star Wars tropes put to an RPG where you could determine some outcomes. Kotor2 is a dissection of the philosophy of Star Wars.

The ending is pretty good with the restored content mod, even if there is still some weird shit like Bao-Dur seemingly having died or something but the game never shows or tells you how or why tf that happened

EU

Living rent free in your head

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Kotor 1 is just Force Awakens: The Game. For better or worse (Force Awakens isn't a bad movie)

No, lmao. You have to slog through terrible, atrocious gameplay. There is no acting to be expected from 2004 models that can't fucking emote. Voice acting is mostly mediocre. There is no film-making aspect to it: camera angles are static and purely utilitarian, there is no cinematography to speak of. Visual language and designs are utterly terrible in both KOTOR games. Ugly and uninspired. Not even a fraction of Ralph McQuarrie or Doug Chiang's greatness. And the story is fucking shit. Kreia is not deep. You are just 13.
Fuck off.

Although to be fair if you want to watch the OT, you're best off downloading a fan remaster that doesn't have the special edition changes too

autism over 9000

Andor is the only piece of great Star Wars media that isn't released in a fucked up state, making it the best

oh, you're one of those who like blandor. unfortunate that you have no clue what star wars is, let alone good star wars

TFA didn’t have a “no, YOU are the Sith Lord” twist mirroring the Vader dad reveal

Force Awakens isn't a bad movie

just because you like slop doesn't mean it's not bad

In some genres, video games surpassed movies as a medium decades ago. Action. Horror. Adventure. Games are far more exciting than movies in these genres. Movies are still a better storytelling medium. So drama, comedy, tragedy, romance, genres like this are better served by a movie.

Some genres like sci fi and historical I don't know. I'd say movies and games are equally good at representing those genres, depending on the goal of the artist.

Reminder that Chris Avellone spent his entire career pushing maltheist and malicious egoist propaganda but the moment his feelies got hurt by Obsidian he declared himself a defender of justice 'confronting evil' (you can find this post on the Codex) wherever it might appear. KOTOR 2 fags of course cite this as a testament to his brilliance because he's 'manipulating' and 'tricking' the moralfags into believing he's a good guy when in actuality he's pursuing his own goals but the truth is he's remembered as nothing more than a has-been laughingstock and even Sawyer is remembered more fondly these days.

Well he did a terrible job then because the light side is clearly superior in kotor2

and even Sawyer is remembered more fondly these days.

LOL
LMAO

But I don't like Force Awakens, I just don't think its bad. I don't really care much about Kotor 1 either. It's just that you NEED to play the game to understand 2, and it isn't actually bad or unfun, it's a fun entertaining game.

KOTOR 2 wasn't even a complete game. The ending was just a character telling you how everything ends. The disappointment from that game still lingers in my mind 20 years later.

Not on Nar Shadaa. Although KOTOR2 runs into the same issue as most of the RPGs. There are no huge penalty for beind bleeding heart paladin.
Although Avellonne also worked on Pathfinder Kingmaker which had very fun dialogue system.

The ending was just a character telling you how everything ends.

Kino and Anon Babblepilled.

Fuck off Kreia I can do what I want with MY money I don’t care if the bum didn’t earn it or that muggers exist or whatever.

Those games are boring shit. You know they made good Star Wars games where you use a lightsaber, fly a spaceship, or podrace right? Not just selecting shit from menus and listening to shitty monologues.

What did he mean by this?

You do all three of those things in the Kotor games thoughbeit

I agree with this btw
the best thing about KOTOR games is the orchestral music and pew pew sounds that temporarily make you feel like you're immersed in a star wars movie
then you crash on some ass planet and use a rented apartment as a base while walking round and round in circles talking to alien NPCs who sound like elderly Midwestern farmers
the entire experience is utterly un-cinematic and un-star wars

Muchashakapakaa

But I don't like Force Awakens, I just don't think its bad

but it is though. corporate focus group safe slop

Okay when you are going to donate all your wealth to the homeless?

the entire experience is utterly un-cinematic and un-star wars

So actually good?

hilarious anti-moralist types can only think in extremes for some kind of gotchya

have fun with your point and click lightsaber duels and subpar on rails podracing. meanwhile I'll be playing jedi academy and racer, the superior experiences

You can tell amazing stories in videogames, the interactivety allows you to do some pretty unique things and to also put the player in a story and make them directly responsible for things that happen, it can make a story much more impactful. Sadly barely any devs really know or care how to truly utilise the potential of the medium for art and storytelling. Just having a lot of cutscenes and section where you walk slow and characters start talking is very far from using the full power of the medium but people nowadays seem to think that is enough to make a videogame story serious and artistic. It is not, just make a fucking TV show if that is what you're doing.

Kojima is the only AAA dev who actually tries to use the full potential of videogames. And he brutally cocks it up at least half the time, he is basically just conducting crazy experiments all the time because actually using vidya for art is a completely unexplored frontier so he has nothing to hold onto, but when he succeeds it is pretty amazing.

No, you don't. You press flurry of force storm, watch the same one animation over and over again, and wait till all enemies in the room die, because "gameplay" in those shitty games was terrible, just an obstacle and a waste of time. And the first third of the game you had to deal with misses as well. Missing a hit on a giant fucking door right in front of you. Riveting.

they are experts at gaslighting with false dichotomies. well, not experts. clowns

Oh sorry, I thought we were still discussing game and game-design, not your traumatic experience, which turned you into LARPer

Mass Effect >>>>>>>>> Kotor slop

Why does your carer allow someone as retarded as you to use the internet?

Kojima is the only AAA dev who actually tries to use the full potential of videogames.

Kojima is Snyder of video games industry

Andor is mid. Cry about it.

Mass Effect is literally copyrightable KOTOR
Ashley - Juhani
Liara - Aerie from BG
Tali - Mission
Wrex - Canderous
Kaiden - Karth

That retored robot planet was such a disappointment.
Nothing but fetch quests

Andor is mid.

Better than anything came out of SW IP since Original Trilogy. Cope

I agree that it is corporate slop. It is just an entertaining movie to watch that is put together very competently. But yeah if you really start to think about what it truly is and what it represents, it is completely shallow and insincere, but actually watching it is very very far from a miserable experience. More than I can say for some of the prequel movies or some of these Disney TV shows which I literally cannot get through and have to turn off from boredom and cringe.

It's shit. An unfinished game missing big chunks of plot, with story threads that end abruptly with no conclusion.
A poor sequel to the original game.

someone actually took the time to make this

Some serious pockets of "humanity" out there

Well there is a reason why it was culled off from Restoration Mod main build.

You're the one larping as an enlightened amoral mastermind, same as every KOTOR2 faggot who never grew past 14 years old. Avellone's children are a reflection of him even to this day.

You're the one larping

It is not me who pretends to be "le based moralist (but only when costs nothing)"

same as every KOTOR2 faggot who never grew past 14 years old. Avellone's children are a reflection of him even to this day.

he says it without shed of irony or sarcasm in Star Wars thread

The best way to play is to treat kreia as the treacherous old cunt she is.

It is not me who pretends to be "le based moralist (but only when costs nothing)"

kid, whenever you grow up, you'll realize that doing good actually costs nothing, and doing evil costs your soul

Sort of, but Snyder would have been an amazing filmmaker if the film industry never had an Orson Welles, or a Kubrick, or a Kurosawa, or a Godard, etc. Because that is where we are at with the games industry right now, it is still in its infancy and the tech has only just dragged itself out of what was basically equivalent to silent film and early talkies. It is just waiting for an Orson Welles to happen and completely shake up the industry by doing things nobody thought possible, all the tools and tech is already there, we just need an artist who is capable and willing to actually use them, but all we have is Kojima who is just kind if a retard who throws shit at the wall in the hope that it will stick. But at least it is something, I am grateful for Kojima because at the very least he tries to be that Orson Welles, even though he clearly is too stupid to be him.

you'll realize that doing good actually costs nothing,

says he while refusing to share his wealth with those may need it more

and doing evil costs your soul

And Pride is most dangerous of mortal sins. Something what brainwashed evangelicals forgot completely.

videogames?

Everyone who praises it is talking about the modded restored version.

says he while refusing to share his wealth with those may need it more

refuse? bold of you to assume I never did charity. maybe it's a foreign concept to you, but good people do it all the time

And Pride is most dangerous of mortal sins

you should know. well, maybe not, since you don't even acknowledge the concept of sin

Doing the meme now are you?

Avellone unironically said the reason the Legion from NV is evil is specifically because 'misogyny and sexism.' He appeared on panels with trannies back when it was still safe to mock them. Yet the guy doesn't spare a second rallying against religion, Christianity and the very notion of altruism and the common good. Totally a stand-up individual!

og battlefront 2

but good people do it all the time

They actually, but how it;s related to you exactly?

since you don't even acknowledge the concept of sin

Thinking of yourself and you morale system as perfect and free of scepticism is very definition of pride.

Of course no, I christian, unlike evangelicals, whose masters causing most of the refugees.

Legion from NV

Christianity

Literally pick one. Also, NV was Sawyer's project and he didn't even invent Legion, he took from Van Buren sketches and used completely wrong.

They actually, but how it;s related to you exactly?

Of course no, I christian, unlike evangelicals, whose masters causing most of the refugees.

OT is inferior to the Prequels. You're dumb.

Lol Sawyer is a faggot too.

OT is inferior to the Prequels. You're dumb.

Not an argument and the old ones used compositing too. Prequels had an insane amount of practical effects btw, you tech-illiterate freak. I hate midwits.

this sloppy shit is better than the other shitty slop

and the old ones used compositing too.

Sure, my bad, completely forgot that Luke duel with Vader was made on the greenscreen as well.

I hate midwits.

Why are you hating yourself?

Eat shit, midwit.

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lol btfo

A lame stage duel doesn't need that amount of VFX obviously.

no u

Wow.

You have to be 18+ to post on this site.

KOTOR came out over 20 years ago, dipshit.

Just enjoy the Lucas movies and whatever apocrypha you like beyond that.

If only nerds weren't so autistic and just liked what they liked, regardless of whatever rules someone else inputs.

Yes. WAY BETTER. It's like having a doze movies totalling 30 hours of content that you can actually interact with, change, and enjoy at your pace rather than speed through.

And you seriously not noticing any difference?

oh, you're one of those who like blandor. unfortunate that you have no clue what star wars is, let alone good star wars

What's funny is that the vast majority of people prefer pulp adventure over boring pretentious shit. People will ALWAYS love stories about heroes saving the day, complete with a cast of lovable characters.

What difference?

Yes, they were, but they require a much higher time investment than movies. They're not great if you're in a couple and one of you isn't really into videogames as most women aren't. Most games have the same globohomo writers as television and movies, so it's becoming harder and harder to make the argument.
If you can find a good videogame with a compelling story, then it's better than a movie because you're effective starring in the movie when you play a videogame.

Fuck off Anon Babbleermin

Canon is basically anything the fans want. The opinion of the studios is irrelevant.

What difference?

Falcon's cockpit

ESL KotOR tranny spends every day of his pathetic existence bitching about Lucas. How sad. What can you expect of someone who thinks early 2000's videogames and comic strips can be compared in any way to cinema. Peak manchild behavior.

Canon is basically anything the fans want.

no it isn't

The opinion of the studios is irrelevant.

yeah, but who said anything about studios? studios didn't create star wars

Reminder that the canon exile is a woman.

Are video games better than movies?

Movies are pretty shit, so probably

you do know that there are star wars movies not made by disney, right?

I'm more happy playing Persona 4 every year than I have been watching a TV show or movie since probably 2005

No.

Star Wars

Watch movies for adults.

Like?

There are people here who grew up on the Clone Wars cartoon bro.

no Jedi Knight III

no KotOR III

no Battlefront III (original)

Absolutely grim

There are thousands of movies for adults.

You just know tranny hands spent hours putting this together in MS paint

wanting an RPG with multiple choices and character interactions to be a movie/tv show

I don't understand why people want that.

The empire was never bad dumbass. It was always just a morally grey regime that served as a metaphor for Anakin’s grief and anger. Lucas has admitted it in multiple occasions

Coward.

Doesn't change the fact its better written than all of the prequels and has more compelling characters. Qui-Gon wishes he was half as interesting as Kreia.

Meh, it really is just about what the fans want.
If the fans reject something, then it doesn't matter what the studio says. It's majority rule, I'm afraid.

Dark Side

morally grey

Which is how it should be unless the creator is passionate and has an actual story to tell. If they're just making shit up on the fly, then cut out thr crap fans don't enioy

the creator is passionate and has an actual story to tell.

I couldn't kill Han Solo because his merchandise was selling like a hotcakes

Yeah, it's different if it's something that was written by one author. You couldn't look at any of the Discworld novels written by Terry Pratchett and claim that they aren't canon just because you don't like one of them. The first six Star Wars movies are definitely canon because they were all written by Lucas, but after that it's whatever the fuck fans want.

Fans know jack shit about good movies. Rian Johnson was right. Fuck em.

> I couldn't kill Han Solo because his merchandise was selling like a hotcakes

is that what you had to tell yourself in order to reject the fact that the story simply didn't call for Han's death in ROTJ? I feel sorry for you

I used to think this wasn’t true till I started actually playing vidya. Games like Kingdom Come, Mass Effect, and Red Dead Redemption are legit better than most movies.

Social media has been hyping up for the next Battlefield 3, driving a resurgence in player count. However, it’s unlikely EA gives a fuck

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is that what you had to tell yourself in order to reject the fact that the story simply didn't call for Han's death in ROTJ?

I don't have to, since it was Lucas own words. Lucas basically mainstreamed idea that movies exists to sell merchandise, something which was later picked up by capeshit.

Got banned from that because I accused a player of being indian. Fucking EA man.

The story didn't call for his survival

There was an original Battlefront series before the EA slop one

tortanic is kotor III :^)

Lucas didn't write Empire or Jedi

Who cares about Mouse canon?