This is unironically one of the most intriguing documentaries of all time

This is unironically one of the most intriguing documentaries of all time.

qrd?

stop shilling this marxist crap

reality is reality and spreadsheets are spreadsheets and the two are not the same
making decisions for society based primarily off "data" is... bad!
gdp go up so society must be good! ignore everyone being unhappy!

Certified Curtiskino.

Just watch the full doc. It's free on YouTube
youtu.be/Gr7T07WfIhM?si=fqD3yYJQXL5NSgO9

You may have to watch it a few times to really understand the points the narrator is trying to make but it's worth it. Alot of people think he's rambling but philosophical speaking he makes a lot of sense. More so retrospectively.

IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE A DOCUMENTARY!

I really view him askance because one part of his incredible sprawling conspiracy theory is that the jews did literally nothing wrong but the elites use propaganda to make the public falsely hate jews

Ironically, if I want to be really charitable to him about that I'd say it's because at some level he's still just a boomer and his late mentor who he'd understandably hold fondness for was a guy named Rauschenberg

most people who hate jews are really just toddlers being distracted

im a rich parasitic elite who is grossly hedonistic and greedy and society would rise up against the wealthy if they ever found out how bad it really was

you know, i hate how much my jewish lawyer and banker charges me, i'm gonna make the plebs hate them instead of me

im a rich parasitic elite who is grossly hedonistic and greedy

Jews are like 2000% overrepresented in this demo for some reason in spite of being a vanishingly rare minority irl

who cares? white people are over-represented too, it doesn't mean it's a reason to hate white people
hating on the basis of race rather than their wealth and actions is retarded

Listen bro, this group of people that are outcasts from all inner high society circles, is actually the root of all problems, trust me bro

white people are over represented

Ahahahahahagagagaggagahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

And I bet you actually believe that

2.5 hours

Why do non fiction writers and filmmakers aleays have to cram the point down your throat? They always seem to get repetitive after the first half

Jewish religion litteraly teaches that non Jews are cattle to be cheated and used by the jew. Not hating them is retarded

Well he have eyes are jews look white

I really wish I understood what the fuck he's talking about but it's just impossible

Forced typo

We know were the psy op is now

They fear jew skin color

great arguments against it anon really made me think

It is the biggest argument

How would you base your live in the opinions of a white anglo who works for british broadcasting

Which group are you talking about? Do you think Jews are excluded like this?

Well they don't play basketball or join our non kosher bbqs

Small restaurants in my country are using AI to fake pics of dishes. Clients are allegedly "furious". Tell me, if you never complained about the pics of nuggets or whatever deeply processed dishes like lasagnas you can find on super markets for cheap, why the fuck this will be any different in the long run?

i was gonna watch it but shits fucking 3 hours long
does it actually say anything interesting or is it just going to yammer on about how the media is controlled by the government and the government is controlled by corporations like every other documentary like this
whats the point if no one is ever going to do anything about it

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kwab

just give up and let religion and capitalism win bro

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This is the guy that shows up in every Adam Curtis thread and posts the same video

Just because someone has a style doesn't discredit them. Eat shit

everyone already gave up a long time ago

Just read a summary of it and a few critiques.

Is fairly unique, the main issue for this political cattle here is that he never blame judaism for anything, neither nazism, is like they just existed in a grey non dualistic way as normies in modern consumerist dystopia until ai categorized them and ostracized them

greetings from israel btw!

dude just have someone else think and make conclusions for you

bussin bussin ong fr

they cook the books. The center of all of this are lies.

reality is complicated

at some point we decided as a collective, let's ignore the complicated nature of reality and simplify it, and find solutions to problems through this simplified model

Thats it.
The problem will be solved when superintelligent AI comes about and can process huge amounts of data and apply systems thinking to it
Ez
I dont know why retards here are talking about da jooz or anything like that, Jooz dont know shit either

Jooz dont know shit

rude.

BUT THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED

SOMETHING HAPPENED

big if true

Never stop posting this, I love watching retards in these threads seethe over it.

SOB SOMETHING HAPPENED

runs and makes a comical cut out of himself in the wall

You think you have a complete grasp of the entire thing in your head? I very much doubt that, nor even immediately after you watched it. Reading a summary can give him at least the basic argument without having to sit to three hour of the whole bloody thing, something to ponder about it. I watched, but I won't say it's really worth putting anon through if he isn't that invested.

Do you believe that non-Whites are inferior to whites? Don't even think about lying. Just give my the first answer that pops into your head when you read that.

It argues that elites and media are delusional and have lost connection to reality. Entire society sees one thing and says it's something completely different. He gives some lefty-perspective examples but his theory is actually really good at explaining the "diversity is our strength", and insane media coverage of 2015 refugee crisis and George Floyd riots.

Russia 1985–1999: TraumaZone

I'm glad that someone finally had the balls to say Putin is bad
That's what Adam Curtis does, brings us the difficult truths that our corporate media political complex refuse to acknowledge. That's why he's the bravest man in journalism.

I can't imagine the kind of backlash he faced from Parliament and the Beeb for daring to take down Putin in late 2022

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Meanwhile in reality, white christian nations subjugated and parasitically extracted the wealth of coloured peoples nations based explicitly on the belief that white people are superior.
I dont remember any Jew arriving to the shores of my motherland then destroying my native culture, religion and stealing our wealth. It was white nations.

this
there will be no justice until the last colonizer is dismantled

You think you have a complete grasp of the entire thing in your head?

never claimed I did, and there's nothing wrong with reading summaries or reviews, I just think it's generally better to do it after arriving at your own conclusions

I dont remember any Jew arriving to the shores of my motherland then destroying my native culture, religion and stealing our wealth.

i can think of a pretty famous example of that happening actually, and i think it's still happening right now in fact

ah yes, because spamming a video with disabled comments isn't seething at all

It's also worth watching because it covered blackRock and Larry's Fink AI golem before he took over the financial world.

well acktually here's one singular instance

the sheer chutzpah required to just ignore the entirety of white colonialism

Everything the wignat accuses the Jews of, is a confession.

Yeah, that's actually a brilliant analisys, how did you survived the stupidification ray also known as muh right wing turn?

Putin barely appears in the mini-series. You would already be able to sumize this if you knew Putin didn't become President until 2000. But you are ignorant. It's mostly about how Perestroika destroyed the Soviet Union and how a bunch of crafty guys abused the shitty system to get rich fast.

much like what’s happening in america today

The system is fake and gay, everybody knows it, but noone thinks we can fix it

This happened in the Soviet Union in the 70s and 80s right before the collapse

Sounds about right. At least theres hope thes system is about to fail, right?

I see no reason to be hopeful and there's no guarantee that whatever comes after won't be even worse

This guy in the system is shitting on the system with system approved historical information

"GUYS ZOMG!!! TRVTHNVKE!!!"

I used to like his docs but last time I watched one it struck me as some guy creating a completely made up narrative out of random world events. He's good at it. And it's entertaining. But it barely qualifies as a documentary. I guess it better than Netflix Original "documentaries" though.

Thanks to vladimir putin

Time to blindly blame communism socialism and healthcare advocates

Why you want free medicine why you don't remove bullets with heat and gunpowder like Rambo

Yeah, the next step is probably just embracing fake AI realities lol

Stop noticing things only children notice things

Quality bait Solomon

Millions of innocent people died due to Soviet negligence and cruelty for you to defend their shitty government on 4kun

Adam Curtis changed my view on everything. Politicians and the rich are not as black and white as people think, they are literally just a cog in the machine.

Century of the self is way more depressing though. The fact the current consumer culture in America was shaped by the freud family to satiate the population is actually kind of terrifying. people who are already depressed shouldn't watch Adam Curtis as it can probably lead to suicidal thoughts.

Weird that you don't remember the primary orchestraters of the slave trades race.
Very convenient

Least obvious OP samefag

Gorbachev destroyed socialism and let the oligarchs take over just as the USSR was about to surpass the greedy sociopathic seppos, probably because the CIA had their hand up his ass

Just watch the fucking documentary instead of spouting your ignorance about wikipedia summaries

Are Jews the orchestrators of everything good about european civilisation? Are they actually superior to you then?
Or, is it just the bad theyre responsible for, but everything good, is because of the whites?
You really need to get your story straight. Or do you think its just that easy to deceive us inferior coloured folk?
Every accusation the wignat makes is in fact a confession #2

If by defending their shitty government you mean not at all

Is like claiming I defend Israel the country b4 I talked to Benjamin jr

The dutch?

Maybe the dutch state, or perhaps the dutch sailors who bought the dutch ships they used to slave trade on dutch ports

Drumpf is subverting our democracy with His heckin racism

Adam Curtis docs are very well made, but pretty much everything he says is conjecture or pulled straight from his ass. They're not as meaningful as they're presented.

What a huge dodge
I was directly addressing you whining about whites taking resources for non whites.
The Jews were sailing the boats.
Selling the slave.
And 78% of them owned slaves
Per captia they were way more responsible for muh heckin transcontinental slave trade then any one else

Watch the movie. Tohe whole point is that each individual can point out what's wrong with the narrative but society as a whole goes with it because it's easy.

that didnt happen that thing you're talking about

Actually... everything bad that makes everything seem crazy comes from Russia

Also... every terrorist attack comes from (Assad's) Syria, even the ones that came from Libya

Damn... really makes me think... must go to war with enemies of NATO

Yeah but the solution for that was superdatamining, he made this right at the turn of the zeitgest when they moved from you are all mindless consumers to you are mind readed

DREAM BABY DREAM
DREAM BABY DREAM
FOREEEEEEEVEEEER

The sheer chutzpah to go as far as to make up facts and push your deranged revisionism onto me
Never ever underestimate the Chutzpah of the whites. Their hubris knows no bounds.

A lot of people in this thread completely missed the point of hypernormalization and are arguing over current affairs that isnt even related. this conversation is way more nuanced than some basic ass opinion.

Bunch of retards who shouldn’t be allowed to vote itt. If a YouTube documentary can affect your worldview in any meaningful way you are cattle. Your personal politics are something that are supposed to be built slowly over the course of a lifetime of education and experience in the real world. You can’t get that from a two hour long documentary slopshow

Sob yes this

God I hate the dream inducing!@#$ read william faulkner of the dream research fame

Yeah imagine thinking some guy who’s job is literally to be the mouthpiece for the system is the one who you should trust when they tell you about what’s wrong with the system. Absolute joke

Nnnoooooo itttssss not true

Refute it then

traumazone is absolutely fantastic, we're currently watching it with my housemates and have finished the first two out of six episodes. great stuff to watch after a light joint I find
his central thesis about hypernormalisation is one of the most astute diagnoses of modern society's issues I've ever seen

people who are already depressed shouldn't watch Adam Curtis as it can probably lead to suicidal thoughts.

Nah, that describes me but I find this stuff cathartic. Like somone is saying what I only felt.

If a YouTube documentary can affect your worldview in any meaningful way you are cattle.

or perhaps it might just be a very good documentary anon?

But they had unleashed powerful forces which led to consequenced they couldn't contain.

Do you have a single fact to back anything that you’re saying up? Or do you want us to just blindly believe these words you typed?

Is the only real way to understand the real problems

makes unproven claim

tells us its on us to prove its not true

Again. The sheer chutzpah on display.
Everything the whites accuse jews of is a confession #3

For you maybe. That would explain why you eat this slop up

You are deflecting from the JQ

My guess is for everyone, this are the limits of the english language after all

There is old things who make less sense out there, with a combination of phonetical sounds

Never saw it but it just looks like some paper thin sophistry about a man attempting to explain why it’s ackshually the right wing’s fault that the modern leftist nightmare future exists now.

All this cops cameras and datamining done by security agencies..

Did I forget the face of mussolini cause it was there too

do us a favour and either watch the entire thing or don't comment at all. these opinions are embarrassing

All those cameras in democrat cities and lefty controlled cities? The massive expansion of the surveillance state was done under Obama. The modern model of internet censorship and political/social control is called “the Chinese model” and is modeled after the Chinese communist parties’ internet censorship methods. It is not the right wing who are literally putting people in prison for political speech on a daily basis in countries around Europe. It’s the left.

Based

I've been to the Elmina slave castle in Ghana. Do you know who the Ghanaians blame for slavery? Not the Portuguese who built it or the Dutch that oversaw it, they blame Africans for selling people to the coastal traders.

The massive expansion of the surveillance state was done under Obama.

lmao, I guess zoomers like you werent even alive when Bush forced the Patriot act down our throats.

it very surface level just take a look

I was alive when Obama called the PATRIOT Act an illegal and unconstitutional abomination that Bush should be imprisoned for inflicting on us, then became president and signed a massive expansion and renewal of it

That was shortly before he decried the illegal and counterproductive wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, then took us to war with Syria and Libya

It's not as good as The Power of Nightmares so watch that one instead.

No I was alive and remember it clearly, it was a mistake that I was never in favor of. But that was 25 years ago and the Patriot Act expired in 2020. The modern surveillance state was built on the back of the Obama administration and his hand crafted alphabet agency and is still operating to this day. Also the modern right wing voter is very much against these types of government actions whereas the modern left winger not so much.

Look I may be to orthodox over this, but the left looked like a tiny white girl with a flower crown and the right looked like I wanna tape that

If am wrong and the role were reversed and the left was all about making that sweet white kid into a pornstar well that's not a meeting I went to, and damn I went to shitty lefty meetings all my life

every president since FDR has practiced foreign interventionism and domestic surveillance. democrats are guilty of this as well, but trying to pin the entire thing on them because you hate them more is intellectually dishonest and lazy

very much against these types of government actions

except when they want the government to scan the genitals of every person before they enter a public bathroom

Oh look he’s going back to the “every president since FDR” line. Is that what you always say when you get ass blasted? Get a job

Well if anon who wants to be a lefty government official asks for money for plants and new furniture sounds lefty, if it ask for new cameras and security software from the nsa then I said that's a right winga

ignore everyone being unhappy!

you have it wrong anon.
People being unhappy arent ignored, they are just not even considered, they dont factor into the equation because the people who care about numbers going up are the people who benefit from it and their pals. The powerful do what they want and the weak suffer what they must.
Business owners want numbers go to up, the politicians are supposed to look after the people but the people vote for the wrong politicians. What can you do? Except advocate to minimise the influence of the politicians on our lives?
Here in the eu, the politicians take a lot of decisions in our favor. But I still vote to decrese their influence on my life because laws are as reliable as the wind.

Thanks anon, I will watch.

Obama built massive data storage centers to keep records of everyone's digital information, retard. That's a little different than taking pictures of MLK Jr. cheating on his wife.
Lol.

Yeah because that’s not a strawman. Most right wingers don’t want the government to give legal cart blanche to any man who wants to use a woman’s bathroom or changing room. Maybe you live in a world where all men can be trusted not to abuse that and it’s not a huge safety risk, but that world only exists in your head. And I’m not talking about transgender women, I’m talking about straight men using it as an excuse to take advantage. Which will and already does happen.

every administration works with the technology available at that time. if LBJ had the ability to do mass surveillance in the digital age, he would've done so as well

every administration works with the technology available

Bullshit, retard. Mass surveillance of every individual person isn't the same thing as limited surveillance of a given POI. False equivalency. You're a moron.

and you think rapist men are stopped when there is a "woman" sign on the door? if somebody wants to rape, they arent gonna go through the hassle of putting on women's clothes to deceive (who exactly?) they're just gonna do it.

Yeah once you uncovers the gears and volts, is obvious mega survelliance starts with cellphones

the reason the FBI didnt tap every phone in the 60s is ONLY because the technology for it wasnt available yet, and employing am million people for the job simply wasnt feasible.
they obviously didnt give a shit about legal ramifications, the only thing stopping them was workload and cost

it's just rape

It's also imposing yourself in women's spaces and awkwardly leering at children, retard. Are we going to police creeps who follow women and children into the bathroom or are we just going to say going in there in the first place is a crime. Do the math, idiot.

No but I do think a ton of perverts are going in there and jerking off and getting away with it because of idiot liberals and that 99% of trans women would have no problem using the women’s bathroom without needing a law as long as they don’t cause a disturbance to begin with. The law is really only there as a fall back mechanism, a safety net, that’s how it should be used.

Again, that's a false equivalency you complete and total retard. You can't assert that it's ok because someone else would have done it and you also don't take into account the uphill battle it took to do it so brazenly.

DURRRR, OBAMA ISN'T BAD BECAUSE SOMEONE 100 YEARS AGO WOULD DO IT IF THEY COULD!

It happened on his watch, stupid. He's responsible for it. The issue of mass surveillance came up during his administration and he decided to take steps to increase it instead of making it a public issue. Simple as.

Fuck you're retarded.

the bathroom issue is fucking imaginary, anon. it's a made-up cultural touchpoint which produces an emotional response; it's designed to make you easy to control. All civil rights issues are fake. Nobody in power actually gives a fuck about abortion or trannies or religion.

Well yeah but I didn’t bring it up, he did

That's the same guy. He's getting BTFO on his own point so now he's saying it's not an issue. The fact is it makes it harder to prosecute perverts who follow women into restrooms and enables that behavior by normalizing their right to be there. He's an idiot.

Hows the right wing about free speech regarding Israel? Can tell you as a euro that the right arent better than the left on these things, and this crap your saying regarding the CCP just sounds dumb.
He was total trash desu
Seems pretty popular to be an anti-establishment lefty to me desu and im not sure how many right wingers are really any more principled in any way.
Its not necessarily the case any administration would take it so far but it does feel a bit inevitable given what the US oligarchy actually is.

We’re all aware that a new Adam Curtis kino is dropping in a few weeks time?

Following on from the success of Adam Curtis’s previous BBC iPlayer films including the BAFTA winning Russia 1985-1999: TraumaZone, and BAFTA nominated HyperNormalisation, comes a brand new five-part series Shifty.

This series shows in a new and imaginative way how over the past 40 years in Britain extreme money and hyper-individualism came together in an unspoken alliance. Together they undermined one of the fundamental structures of mass democracy - that it could create a shared idea of what was real. And as that fell apart, with it went the language and the ideas that people had turned to for the last 150 years to make sense of the world they lived in.

As a result, life in Britain today has become strange - a hazy dream-like flux in which no one can predict what is coming next. While distrust in politicians keeps growing. And the political class seem to have lost control.

SHIFTY shows how that happened. But it also shows how that distrust is a symptom of something much deeper. That there is a now a mismatch between the world we experience day to day and the world that the politicians, journalists and experts describe to us.

The map no longer describes the territory.

The films tell the story of the rise of that unstable and confusing world from the 1980s to now. They use a vast range of footage to evoke what if felt like to live through an epic transformation. A shift in consciousness among people in how they saw and felt about the world. Hundreds of moments captured on film and video that give a true sense of the crazy complexity and variety of peoples actual lives. Moments of intimacy and strangeness and absurdity. From nuns playing Cluedo, fat-shaming ventriloquists, and Japanese adult actresses roleplaying as 18th century London prostitutes, to dark moments - racist attacks, suspicion of others and modern paranoia about conspiracies in Britain’s past.

you can count with your fingers the amount of rapes or child abuses that happen with strangers in public bathrooms in north america.

this is such a non-issue in the grand scheme of things. 99% of women and children who get abused already have an established relationship with their abuser (husband, boyfriend, teacher, sports coach, father, cousin, etc)
the idea that rapists disguising themselves as trannys are somehow a menace to children or women is completely ridiculous.

but when people point out these actual dangers to children and women and want to expand on women's abilities to get help in these situations (more leeway for police intervention, more funding for women's shelters, better processing in divorce courts) men cry woke feminism and don't want it either. its just a deeply dishonest argument.

...but that was an illusion

DURRRR, OBAMA ISN'T BAD

I never said this you absolute retard, he is guilty, same as everyone else. I was just pointing out the fact that every president and every political party for almost a hundred years is guilty of eroding people's privacy and individual liberty

Hows the right wing about free speech regarding Israel?

Better than the left when it comes to criticizing mass immigration, making a joke about Nazis using your girlfriend's dog, and refusing to believe men can become women by cutting off their cocks.

Yeah we should take children away from their families and raise them in government run bathrooms filled with transgenders because stats say they’re safer there. We should make sharks their teachers because more kids get killed by teachers every year then sharks

You could tap into the signal, with enough connections like a wall street broker phone operator you could scan one by one a small town of a thousand or less, consider not all houses had phones or every person

genuinely what the fuck are you talking about anon. watch the episode or fuck off with your directionbrained inanity

even on a per capita basis, trannys are still far less likely to rape kids than your average highschool teacher

you can count with your fingers the amount of rapes or child abuses that happen with strangers in public bathrooms in north america

1 is too many and as I said before it provides an avenue for perverts to get away with following women and children into the bathroom, idiot. It's pretty hard to prosecute someone for leering at a kid in the bathroom but it's not very hard to prosecute them if they shouldn't be there in the first place.

Not reading the rest of your sperg because I'm sure you didn't address that point.

Maybe if you're stupid

Not going through this individually to reply but you’re obviously just a European who has absolutely zero exposure to anything actually right wing and your mental picture of the “right wing” is so far from reality. Good luck in the future

sounds like more of his horseshit

Lol.

this is true, bit tracking phonecalls in real time, analyzing the speech and connections, documenting and filing it all would've needed tens of thousands of people working day and night. today its a few dozen people with laptops, some digital archive and AI to "listen" to conversations. much cheaper, and easier to keep at least halfway a secret

even on a per capita basis, trannys are still far less likely to rape kids than your average highschool teacher

So are catholic priests and oddly enough that didn’t stop you and the left wing media from saying everything you said about the church

do you disagree with his core assertion though? that the world we inhabit day to day and the world constructed by politicians, scientists and news reporters have become out of touch with one another?

The simplest discoveries are often the most overlooked

Its interesting you perceived it as excusing it which in a way it is, when I think they were trying to flatten the difference between more right or left leaning American presidents on this matter.
Problem here is fatalism, you sound resigned to it as a fact of government.

AND THEN THE UNTHINKABLE HAPPENED

black and white footage of old factories

AT SOME POINT

milkman delivering milk in reverse

THINGS CHANGED

rocket launching off of a launchpad

same as everyone else

Again: MASS SURVEILLANCE HAPPENED UNDER HIS WATCH AND IT WAS BRAZENLY FLAUNTED! Fuck you're so dumb. You wouldn't say 9/11 was Obama's failure as a president dumbass.

durr, everyone do bad thing aren't I smart

No, you're not. You're an idiot.

Yea they're all liars. If it's like Hypernormalisation he'll come up with some convoluted/wrong way of explaining it though.

Bad thing is a feature not an option

its worse than marxist, it isnt anything. its just musings about how "things change and you dont have as much control as you think you do and the powers that be are pulling the wool over your eyes so you are the frog slowly boiling while the wolves in sheeps clothing are-"

its fucking caca, horseshit, like if someone just put a lot of the thoughtful dialogue from deus ex into a word scrambler and added 50% more vagueness

think about the actual workability of such a solution in reality. "no men" in women's bathrooms does factually mean that some agency will have to check the genitals of all people who enter there, because, surprise, you can't catch all trannys just by looking at them.

does this make women safer? if old, "manly" or simply not-default-looking women have to go through a checkpoint just to take a leak? I can guarantee you either bad actors in the government or overzealous "concerned neighbors" will take advantage of this situation, and cases of actual rape, abuse, filming without consent, photography of children, etc will skyrocket

I think they were trying to flatten the difference between more right or left leaning American presidents on this matter.

It's a retard who started out criticizing conservatives and then resorted to "both sides though" in the most retarded way imaginable. The point is that the administration to hold accountable for mass surveillance is the Obama administration. You're right about his fatalism. His understanding of the world is basically "durr people do bad thing all the time so this bad thing is same" which is just an idiotic take divorced from context based on a shallow understanding of history. He's an idiot.

so is Bush worse for starting the patriot Act or Obama because he maintained/expanded it?

think about the actual workability of such a solution in reality

I did which is why I pointed out it's easier to prosecute a pervert who shouldn't be in a Womans' Bathroom than it is to accuse a pervert who is allowed to be in there for leering at kids.

Not reading the rest because I know you didn't address that point.

Everyone reading the thread knows you’re right just mostly nobody feels like wasting the effort to get involved. You won.

Century of the Self is the one to watch

I refuse to give your idiot propaganda any further views.

It was bad when Bush started it but it had an expiration date which Obama renewed. Obama then expanded it and under his watch an algorithm that was being used to parse big data was made unrestricted and began to be used for general domestic surveillance.

You don't know any of this because your take on it doesn't go beyond "both sides so bad" which makes you sound like a 14 year old. You're a moron. Fuck off.

Maybe stop fucking around with your phone and jerking off to frog pictures you retarded slav subhuman. Might be able to pay attention to something for more than 15 seconds.

The worst thing about Obama is that he specifically campaigned on repealing and disbanding it and that was a massive factor in his landslide victory, along with his solemn guarantees that he would withdraw from the middle east

I feel like any broad "every politician lies" generality doesn't underscore the particular way that Obama the policymaker was the literal inverted nemesis of Obama the rhetorician; that in fact he was more dishonest than Bush because Bush made little pretense about being imperialist

You're still a faggot, Birdman

The post I responded to claimed white people were the problem with no evidence I refuted it.
You're claiming I'm wrong. Without evidence
Typical libshit diversionary tactics

Is tough not taking that stance, reality flows from one side to the other naturally one day a hatchling tomorrow dinner

I'm bored and it's worth it to articulate stuff I haven't thought about in a while. I'm not reading most of his posts because I already know what he'll write based on the first few. That's a useful skill to develop but for the most part I'm just bored, lol.

Pandora's Box is good

This loser eurofag's videos suck asshole. Anyone who believes this nonsense is a gullible moron who uses twitter and leddit too often. An hero blah blah blah.

This is just a continuation of Bitter Lake and I'm not sure why they made it like it's a separate thing. You really need to watch both of them back to back so it's a complete thought.

NO ONE FUCKING CARES YOU SAMEFAGGING COCKSUCKER

I would argue that Bush was slightly worse because he laid the legal groundwork of such mass surveillance even being possible in the first place. the patriot act opened the floodgates for the obama expansions in the first place.

but I cannot deny that Obama was a huge piece of shit in this regard, his two-faced approach to this issue is unprecedented and he got away with it because "historical black president"

Jews are overrepresented in the elite but you can't just blame the jews for everything because that ignores all the non-jewish elites and implicates a bunch of innocent middle class jews

Some jews own most things

There

Antitrooners do lose this one as a matter of culture I think, the cats too out of the bag with radical gender non-conformity and a liberal society will just end up like this. Theres more out and about trannies now so more visibly entering womens bathrooms but sometimes its just an actual woman whos been mistaken for a tranny that gets held up and harrassed for ‘being in the wrong bathroom’ now. Nobody used to be on such high alert about trannies I dont think, and not sure how this all gets resolved really, where the lines are going to be drawn/redrawn with so many preestablished norms being challenged more and more.

Bush did have the excuse of War on Terror bullshit and if we're being fair there was an expiration date and guardrails in place. Yeah, it's retarded to even bring it in and not to see where it could go but at the same time it was Obama who renewed and and took the guardrails off. I forget the guys name but the guy who wrote the algorithms to parse the data resigned from the NSA or CIA when the guardrails were removed under Obama and became a whistleblower. He's in a documentary but I forget which one...might be Zero Days? It wasn't the one about Snowden.

Well...

*puts on shades*

I guess you cared enough to post.

Nah it’s good that somebody did, I can’t stand reading bullshit either

What world do you live in?

Citizen Snowden?

Dunno the only thing worst than dealing with the nsa is being famous

I like his videos although I have noticed a few times he doesn't fully look at an older preceding event thoroughly enough (something to do with imperialistic american politics at the time from woodrow wilson I think it was? When he was personally against the idea and a lot of americans were where he framed it as a unanimous decision)

be Adam Curtis

voice like BBC narrator crossed with existential dread

"everything is fake and you’re complicit"

documentary.exe launches

opens with NYC exploding

"this started in the 70s"

somehow blames it on Syrian politicians and Jane Fonda

Gaddafi enters the chat

west uses him as Bond villain LARP to distract from real problems

USSR collapses

no one knows what’s real anymore

America invents post-truth before it was cool

bankers make up value

politicians give up

internet people: “we’re gonna make utopia”

accidentally create Facebook instead

Putin shows up

hires avant-garde meme wizards

causes collective schizophrenia in West

everyone online starts LARPing like it’s ARG

enter Trump stage right

professional chaos agent

doesn’t believe in anything, wins anyway

curtain falls

Adam Curtis stares into camera

“you live in a simulation of your own disempowerment”

thanks, Adam. very cool.

10/10 would existential crisis again.

Point out what you object to anon.

I dunno, he does make a good point. If jews are bad for being overrepresented in rich people, are white people also bad for being overrepresented in that demographic?

TL;DR:
HyperNormalisation is a 2.5-hour brain-melter by Adam Curtis that basically says:

Since the 70s, politicians, bankers, and media gave up fixing real problems and started faking reality instead.

Everyone's living in a comfy illusion, while chaos agents (like Gaddafi, Putin, and eventually Trump) mess with the narrative for fun or power.

Internet was supposed to save us — gave us clickbait and QAnon instead.

Now no one knows what’s real, and that’s the point.

Enjoy your simulated society.

Now, Citizen Four is the Snowden one and it wasn't that. He's an older guy, like 60s or maybe even 70, with glasses. Bald. I'm trying to look him up but he wasn't given much media attention.

this just sounds like a truthnuke though

One where trannies and bathrooms are this important.

Disinfo fags really do not like adam curtis kek

Is this one of those marxoid fags like Guy Debord who pretend like "i know the whole truth mannnn" and then dont even bring up Jews once

I watched HyperNormalization and thought it was bretty gud
which CurtisKino should I watch next?

Honestly it was the post you were replying to that I was triggered by but I’m multitasking and got sloppy.

yeah because he BTFOs spooks, feds and glowies alike on all sides and gets straight to the point, which is that our information-space (and thus our attached idea-space) has been completely fucking compromised by all kinds of devious agents both foreign and domestic. that pisses off the powers that be because realising the state of things is the first step to changing them.

trannies, and associating them with child abuse and general "degeneracy" is a MAJOR talking point in the current rightwing counterculture.

most young people get politically radicalized because of the LGBT talking points, not because of tax brackets or foreign wars

No, Curtis speaks extensively about how antisemitism is a psyop that true elites use to scapegoat jews

Congrats on being a victim of propaganda tho

Century of the self.

I don't think is his direct takes but his manners at the time to aproach a subject, and I see why he is lumped with Michael Moore for that simply dancing around a subject

Which at the end is all the meat

You cant defend coin clipping. It's their way

"The Elites want you to hate Israel and Jews" LMAO. Fundamentally unserious people, I look him up and he has the exact physiongomy I expected.

I can accept that criticism to be fair. I thought he did a very good job of cutting to the meat of the point in this interview (that's been cut to just be him speaking so you don't have to hear the horrible noises of bertrand russel)
youtube.com/watch?v=MIHC4NNScEI
in which he explains hypernormalisation

Lol no the brown countries were better off and got improved because of colonization.

Well, and I say this as someone who holds no animosity towards gay or transgender people, but anyone who is motivated to violent action in defense of fucking “trans rights” aren’t exactly people I’m worried about being set against against me nor would I want to recruit them to my side. Regardless of their age.

Jews with power have agency and they choose to do evil with it because the consider none-jews as animals and cattle.

unironically

in the bin it goes

William Binney is the guy. I think I'm mixing him together with another whistleblower though. I've never seen this one but I found him via this doc: youtu.be/nAmU5eQBrUU

I can't remember the documentary in which I first saw him and it might be the different person I blended with him in my memory, lol.

Its not just bathrooms anon, its gender norms in society in general. These things matter because of differences between people, everyone understood men and women are not the same and had different spaces and would segregate to some extent, but now man and woman dont mean anything apparently and is separate from biological sex which means a lot less as well. Not saying its all bad just has a lot of implications for societal transformation and renegotiation of things is all. Sports being a pretty obvious example of where it was common sense and necessary to have a lot of separation between men and women but now Im wondering if things will end up separated more based on direct physical traits like ‘weight class’ or something rather than biological sex even.

you have to understand that "the elites" play both sides in this game. the forever war in the middle east is a convenient topic to keep the people busy and in a constant state of outrage.
its used as white noise that drowns out other issues

The whole culture and academia has been subverted by cultural marxism aka Woke which originated at the Frankfurt school in Germany, who later fled to the US when Hitler got elected. All the Frankfurt school people were jewish.

I dont believe this desu I think they tend to be ethnonarcissistic even more so than other groups because of their history of persecution and being a small minority, and most of the evil is generic evil for the roles they fill like historically being a banker and doing usery which ironically leads the whole group to be persecuted lol. Even if it says in the Talmud or wherever that goys are subhuman I doubt most jewish actually feel this.

You're not reading 5D chess, retard. You're just stating simplistic nonsense as if it's insightful without ever even reading a book on the given subject(s). It's lazy retards like you who hold everyone back.

I deeply apologize for not joining in on the "DA JOOOOOZ" chant

Despite some lack of good faith argumentation and lazy claims about other people's levels of mental aptitude, this was a surprisingly interesting thread. Nice job, you morons.

but the people vote for the wrong politicians

The greatest lie of "democracy" is that there are right politicians to vote for, and that it's the fault of the people getting fucked for not picking the dick with fewer barbs to fuck them. There was a time when rulers were afraid of their own people, now the rulers just pit the people against each other and no one ever tries to rise up. Try again at the voting booth next time, surely something will change (it never does).

summerfag thread. more like summerfage

Will watch it.

The whole cctv is spying on us british crew was interesting, yeah the guy from dream research may be willheim faulkner, it makes the difference between monarch as it done in guantanamo or vancouver to mass usage of altering methods, that and the every day more popular chemtrails with lithium

fpbp

The wars arent mere distractions, lots of people with lots of money make lots more money of off them.

I think its funny how the news are going to become the most reliable source of information again because internet is plagued with IA

physiongomy

Based. Aristotle literally wrote the book on this 4 thousand years ago and nobody seriously disagreed with it until like 1950 but somehow I’m supposed to believe it’s all bullshit now.

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news are going to become the most reliable source of information again

always were.
plain Reuters feed is unironically one of the best news sources out there, because they don't try to put a spin on things, just naked, boring reports about stuff happening in the world. as little bias as possible, directly from the source that other news media uses anyways

Yes, goyim. The news loves you and protects you and has nothing to do with za joos.

Hence our problem is one source doing that while everything else around is using first person vertical shots for everything

As biased as it gets

You should probably research why they were persecuted and thrown out of so many countries, and not fall for the muh victim narrative. Their actions speak for themselves.

In 1290 England expelled the jews because there was a coin-clipping scandal, this is why coins have ridges so you can tell if they have been clipped or not.

Read about the origin of the ADL, the jews always try to control the narrative and lobby for censorship to hide their own wrongdoings and flood the internet with pro-Israel propaganda. When Anon Babble got hacked earlier this year the biggest userbase came from Israel.

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I'm a big fan of video essays, so I'll just explain it to you.
The point isn't just to spread information, it's also to rhetorically convince. That means you need to circle around a few times to reinforce ideas, almost hypnotically, like you're trying to convince, not just explain.
When you hear the idea the first time, you understand it.
Later, you hear it again, and it's reinforced.
Later, you're in the middle of hearing it again, and you can apply the principles of the concept yourself. You have now internalized the concept.
If I just tell you, "Leftists unironically believe in twitter voodoo, wherein consensus on twitter enacts change in the political system." you might understand what I'm saying as a metaphor, but I'd have to hypnotically circle around back for it a few times to make sure you understand that it's a metaphor, and what I really mean: I believe people always convince themselves that their social role is important, and has some use. Since all they know, as a hobby, is screaming into the void on shitter/reddit, they assume that there must be some impact they're having despite just whipping themselves up into a hyper-polarized frenzy.
In reality, they're just screaming in the void like a retard and being generally ignored, but when one of their candidates does manage to win, they start hooting and congratulating each other, even if nobody on their gay reddit sub even voted or convinced anyone who did. That's why I call it twitter voodoo, it's their counterpart to meme magic.
Leftists believe that if they screech extreme opinions into the void, they will eventually hit psychic critical mass and it will just start effecting reality at some point.
This is retarded from a logical standpoint, but they won't listen because listening would involve accepting how worthless and retarded their gay little hobby is, so they're not going to do that. They just slavishly support their overlords on twitter, and pretend they're part of the machine.

please, tell me you're an intern

king borrows money from wealthy jewish citizens during times of need

jews ask to be repaid some time later

king kicks them out instead

800 years later

SEE!! Da jooz were always the bad guys!!!

Reuters take is based, different from the dumb version of this that CNN is reliable and shitting on MSM is le bad. The truth is its difficult to know whats going on and who to trust and we all have biases just like organisations all have biases, so just reading more plain reporting like Reuters or AP is good even though its technically MSM and MSM can suck real bad. ‘Alternative media’ can be decent as well but also suck just as bad if not worse. Can be good to find individual journalist who seem honest enough to follow and read what they put out.

Coin clipping is literally theft, you are playing retard in bad faith now.

Everyone was doing it not just da jooz, but they get scapegoated for it because they had a different religion.

Our entire point is that is it not difficult but awfully simple or theoretically impossible, as in the whole of the truth etc

the argument is not about coin clipping, try to focus and follow the plot

i watched it years ago and i can't remember shit

Think they were saying there are a bunch of instances at least were it doesnt look so simple as da joos were just the bad guys and got what they deserve, you just flatten it all focusing on coin clipping, which sure there are jews that do devious stuff but guilting the whole group as uniquely evil seems like a stretch.

Any invasion to an existing culture becomes destructive

Imagine that german kutchens caused high sugar across le continents

It's unironically pseudo-deep slop connecting-the-dots style conspiracy thinking. Liking this "documentary" is a sign of being clueless about how the world really works and what is really going on.

our

You and the agency?

Sure I'll grant you that others did it but not on the scale as jews did, they were infamous for it because of their role in banking and easier access. They could have done banking the honorable way but jews are not a honourable people.
I gave you a historical example of jews being expelled for coin clipping and you refuse to address that

Our as in anyone else and me, not here to pretend some sort of decimonic truth or to collect a paycheck

there were, historically and today, obviously bad actors and plain criminals hiding among the jews, but the old "110 countries" meme as a justification for jews being an evil race in the world is getting real old. there's plenty of reasons for this animosity, its been going on a long time.

and also, you think crafty and resourceful jews wouldnt just put the clipped coins through a gearbox again to re-ridge them? fraud with royal coins used to be punishable by death, you'd think cheaters would be more careful with that instead of just winging it.

You're a literal communist. You have no ground to be calling others children. At least the joofers get things half right. You get things 100% wrong.

Liking this "documentary" is a sign of being clueless about how the world really works and what is really going on.

And also a sign of good taste.

Theres nothing wrong with conspiracy thinking, its what powerful people do they conspire. Cluelessness is more indicated in having too high a bar for even liking a documentary like this, which has its serious shortcomings but hits upon some truth and can be appreciated for that.

I was using a specific historical example. Have you looked into the origins of the ADL and Leo Frank? The Rothschild banks and the way they crashed the stock market during the Napoleonic wars?

which sure there are jews that do devious stuff but guilting the whole group as uniquely evil seems like a stretch.

I never said that, you put words in my mouth. I am addressing jews with influence specifically and how they use it to subvert nones, do not strawman me.

there's plenty of reasons for this animosity, its been going on a long time.

Explain it to me then with your own words, I'd love to hear your take on it. When did it start?

and also, you think crafty and resourceful jews wouldnt just put the clipped coins through a gearbox again to re-ridge them? fraud with royal coins used to be punishable by death, you'd think cheaters would be more careful with that instead of just winging it.

Apparently not.

Blaming the Jews ignored basically everything happening pre ww2. First wave feminism, the civil war, abolitionism, etc. All the obvious predecessors to our current problems and all anglo protestant operations.

When did it start?

70 AD with the destruction of the tempe in jerusalem and expulsion of the jews from palestine

Why was the temple destroyed and the jews expelled from Palestine?

What are the plenty of reasons for this animosity? You didn't address that.

Adam Curtis documentaries are great. The only thing he DOESN'T do is name the jew. Not saying that's not a huge blind spot, but the rest of his analysis of what (((they))) are doing is spot-on. He kind of drops you off at the welcome mat of antisemitism.

I'm trying to make this as short and concise as possible

the reason for the expulsion was a huge riot (3rd riot within 50 years in the province of judaea, some conspiracy about jews torching rome, and a heavy handed response from the romans themselves)

jews not having a homeland anymore forced them to live as "guests" in various places around europe and the middle east. due to the fact that there were now very few of them, isolated and in foreign countries, they were in "danger" of losing their cultural and religious identity like plenty of other peoples in europe (avars, sorbs, andalusians, pechenegs, etc)
so a conscious effort was made to preserve jewish ethnic, cultural and religious identity, with clear rules on what jews are and how to act in accordance to their religious beliefs.

over the centuries, this preserved their identity despite not having a homeland, but it obviously didnt sit well with other people in whose countries they were living in.

having a neighbor that doesnt speak your language or even has your religion, who weathers some disasters (plagues, famines, economic troubles) better because they have more inner-communal support and solidarity, and who does jobs you consider to be "suspicious" (money) breeds a lot of permanent animosity. top it off with the christian idea that jews murdered jesus, and you have a perfect storm of perpetual conflict and convenient scapegoats for all kinds of shit happening, most of which the jews arent even directly responsible for.

You are clearly trying to guilt all jews and explicitly justifying persecuting them all. Im aware of the ethnonarcissism of many jews and the insanity of the ADL and Israel etc. Id happily use words like parasitism and evil to describe a lot here, not a big fan of Rothschilds and not trying to defend them either. Im not sold on the particular fixation on them as an ethnic group or acting like they all need to go, that it was justified for them to be totally expelled from so many territories. Really the more I learn about evil shenanigans in history the more inconsistent the ‘jews deserved it’ reasoning seems to be. None of this is a call for specific evil behaviour from individuals to go unpunished, and if you just want some rules like no jews in banks I dont really care either.

Look any foreign anywhere

They all look the same, for the polynesians is the british, for the latinos is spain, for africans is belgium

Etc, they develop identity based on clay of origin

I am a massively lazy faggot and so are the millions of other people who make these videos. I cannot cope with the job force (laziness), so I sold my soul to google and begin producing low quality, patched together """content""". I have no moral qualms with this, and am an economic hypocrite and a grifter. Did I mention I'm a social maladaptive which led me to neuroticism?

FTFY

The issue is their influence and power proportional to their ethnic background in other nations and how they wield it against the none-jews. ADL and censorship, AIPAC, Hollywood, porn industry, music industry dating apps, the banking industry, marxism and cultural marxism, mass immigration for example. They are pushing degeneracy and divide societies apart, making it sick. If you name them you can risk losing everything.

If you invite someone into your house in good faith and they start causing damage, it's perfectly natural to throw them out.

If jews are unable to peacefully coexist inside their host nation, undermine and subvert the host, the best way for the nation is to expel them, how is that any different than jews always taking their own side with their fierce ethnonarcissism?
The real issue here seems to be assimilation and how multicultural societies do not work. Jews refuse to assimilate due to their history, this is why leftist jews have pushed for multiculturalism because jews are safer and can slip into the crowd easier. Otherwise they stick out like a sore thumb.

Just finished it, was interested but focused too much on the middle east. Feel like the chatgpt summary was enough

Just want to chime in I agree with you and this faggot OP can go to Hell

Hypernormalisation is probably my least favorite Curtis and it's easily the most popular, why? Bitter Lake, Century of the Self and All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace are way more interesting

Thank you for sharing your perspective. It's possible they have been used as scapegoats, however I do not buy it that this was the case every time. There is great power in being a victim, vulnerable narcissism, and it is very easy to exploit people who fall for it.

God damnit OP we get it you REALLY FUCKING LIKE THIS GUY WE UNDERSTAND. STOP SAMEFAGGING EVERY THIRTY MINUTES TO BUMP YOUR SHIT THREAD THAT DOESNT EVEN BELONG ON THIS BOARD YOU NIGGER!

Thanks anon

take your meds and go back to the 100 Star Wars threads on the catalog, it's my first post

Your first post just so happens to share the same syntax as 50+ others ITT all obviously from you, jew. Thanks for dropping the meds line and revealing your summerfag nature for certain.

Not only is the content of his documentaries becoming more retarded I think his style is getting worse too. It's turning into self parody.

pushed for multiculturalism because jews are safer and can slip into the crowd easier.

this is such a flawed argument. how would the societies they live in get safer for jews when they import milions of muslims (who hate the jews a lot more than white people for obvious reasons)

jewish public life in europe has noticeably worsened with mass immigration, people wearing a kippa in public now occasionally get attacked , which was almost unheard of 30 years ago.

pinning all of these issues entirely on the jews (for what endgame exactly??) is laughably retarded

Trump/the rich bad

Yes you should probably ask the jewish NGOs who have pushed for mass immigration about it. Mind you I never specified muslims and I did mention that multiculturalism do not work.

Jews are also genetically very high in schizophrenia due to inbreeding.

I mean funny as in "haha we are so fucked"

European jews can move to Israel. I suppose it's a reap what you sow kind of deal. The strange thing is leftists also consider jews white evil colonizers now, hence why they are pro Palestine, this is all because of jewish marxist propaganda in schools.
My point is, sometimes things backfire at you.

how can he say that when pretty much the entire documentary implicates jews for everything he describes?

He literally blames Kissinger right from the start.
He's basically talking about what we refer to as 'clown world'.
It has some cool insights about already known stuff like Blackrock, Gaddafi, Russia
and Occupy Wall St. packed into a kinda neat Doompost aesthetic. It's pure Doom & Gloom kino.

barely qualifies as a documentary

You're right, although BBC's output of these is top notch. Order and Disorder comes to mind.

people who are already depressed shouldn't watch Adam Curtis as it can probably lead to suicidal thoughts.

I guess my depression is already a part of me because I couldn't help but smile while watching it.

Does he name the jew?

Based. Read "The Culture of Critique" by Dr Kevin Macdonald if you haven't already. I nearly died of confirmation bias overdose.

Yes, multiple times LMAO. Did you even watch the thing?

When only a few families of rich Jews and Romans have almost the entirety of the world's wealth and power to the point a peon like Epstein being exposed hasn't unraveled everything immediately, those families are indiscriminately safe from the masses and cultural attack. The reason no one in this thread, who doesn't already agree with you, respects you is: you are obviously still an incredibly gullible and impressionable person to be claiming ontological certainty with your wording, while being entirely dismissive of verifiable facts of life. You are meek and seek leadership. There have been about a million other people like you who come here and try to make this their site, and it always goes to shambles. Enjoy talking to yourself for weeks or even years, if you wish, but you will not change any rational minds who have already encountered people like you. Ignorant slave who thinks the agenda he was told to push is his own. You know people aren't just saying "all jooz bad because they are bad" you dishonest, pathetic cretin. You know exactly why you're receiving all this criticism. Mind numbingly pantomiming jewtube videos and manifestos will not ever make you one of them, and it will never secure your intelligence or well-being.

No I do not have 3 hours spare

I haven't read that but I will check it out. Once you start noticing things it's hard to go back.

so it's Baudrillard for the masses?

Holding to this idiotic principle, it's no wonder your post is a tl;dr waste of words

They are scapegoats for systemic problems they didn't cause, they have the most rightful claim to Israel because they built it up and they're also a uniquely evil group of people, a cancer on any healthy society. Their evil nature can easily be demonstrated by simply allowing them to speak. Choose a random jew, ask him almost any random question, the answer will be some uniquely evil and selfish nonsense.

Most other races are, objectively

global jewish shadowgovernment conspires to make their own lives worse (they somehow forgot that muslims hate them)

lmao, I'm gonna point out the obvious here, that your conspiracy theory is bullshit and jews are not the main cause of mass immigration

How do you explain jews being involved in mass immigration and multiculturalism through NGOs? Like Barbra Spectre?
Do you have a better explenation?

What is the main cause of mass immigration?
Because the main culprit seems to be Israel and their US allies through AIPAC bombing and destabilizing the middle-east on false premises causing a refugee crisis. 9/11 doesn't add up, the dancing israelis, the weapons of mass destruction which never existed and so on.

capitalism should win
You like living in a poverty stricken socialist shithole or something?

What is the main cause of mass immigration?

Leftism.

destabilizing the middle-east

We are in a war with middle East and their false religion for 1400 years. Hagia Sofia is christian monument.

Do you have a better explenation?

Both Russia and Belarus has been caught sending immigrants through their borders to Poland and Finland to destabilize Europe, which fits their way of operating in history, but you feel for the most stupid propaganda.

Thank you, I will probably listen to the whole thing when I have time.

whats the point if no one is ever going to do anything about it

That's why I stopped caring. I'm surrounded by people who want to tell me what's wrong with everything but when you ask "so what do we do about it" you get nothing. I think people just love being miserable. And if they're not miserable they don't feel right.

might as well blame the catholic church because they have A LOT more influence on mass immigration through their NGOs that the jews, at least in europe that is. both act under the common religious theme of "compassion for the poor and minorities" pinning this entirely on the jews is dishonest, there's plenty of agencies, poth religious and non religious, who support this.

the main cause for mass immigration is, and always has been, economics.
and as a friendly reminder, the vast majority of refugees stay within their own countries (but are still displaced from their homes, thus refugees) or flee to neighboring muslim countries. turkey alone has more syrian refugees than all of europe combined. the same is true for pakistan and afghan refugees.

even assuming US foreign intervention are the reason for mass immigration into europe (they arent) they're still going a bad job with it because most brownoids dont even come to europe or the US.

I dont have the time to untangle all your horseshit about 9/11, but I'm gonna say that they DID find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction, which saddam did have,)

Jewish "intellectuals" are very prominent in leftism.
The middle east was much more peaceful before Israel was created after WWII and US interference.
Too simple of an answer but maybe a small puzzle piece. Are you implying Russia is behind mass immigration in the whole west?

Present the information in a precise and concise format and then I will be the one to determine if it has any merit.
Repeating the same point over and over again is just a facade for propaganda.

so you're seething because jews treat you the same way you treat others then

Any time I see someone rationalizing away jewish control I just think "What would our founding fathers say?" and they literally would be considered incel chuds. Fucking ridiculous.

The middle east was much more peaceful before Israel was created after WWII and US interference.

not true. the ottomans already had massive problems with ethnic unrest in the region and a massive surge in nationalism starting in the ~1880s. the majority of the arab world turned against them during WW1 because they were sick of foreign rule.

the european colonial powers and the US definitely deserve part of the blame, and the founding of israel was a messy and flawed event from the beginning, but pretending the middle east was mostly fine before WW2 is a dishonest midwit take.

The middle east was much more peaceful before Israel was created

Sure it was Mahmoud, go hit the ground with your face five times a day for your desert moon demon.

instantly begins kvetching

revolution only happens when it's the best option, right now it still isn't

Founding fathers would say that you are a fat nerd with soft hands and had you whipped.

wordsalad

stock historic footage

dramatic trent reznor music

dramatic stock historic footage

dramatic wordsalad

sudden silence, lingering cut

IN THIS MOMMENT I AM EUPHORIC

It was more peaceful before Israel was created, you cannot deny how it destabilized the middle east. I didn't say it was peaceful before, I said more peaceful. You lack reading comprehension skills.

You are jewish or indian.

Jews and their servants knocked out Baathism, severely setting the middle east back

There is no god but the homeland, and there is no messenger but the Ba'ath party

I didn't pin it entirely on the jews, you try to strawman and divert, I just pointed out they play a part in it. A lot of churches have become Woke due to jewish cultural marxism, this is jewish influence as well.
But I will grant you the point of the catholic church.

even assuming US foreign intervention are the reason for mass immigration into europe

Of course it plays a massive part due to US global hegemony post WWII, you are being intellectually dishonest now.

10/10 assessment, would kek again.

A lot of churches have become Woke due to jewish cultural marxism

so christians and jews are in cahoots now to destroy the christian west? nigger please. you're supposed to let go of a conspiracy theory when a plausible narrative becomes impossible without your brain hurting.

There are literally sects of Christianity who worships Israel and jews. Useful idiots do exist.

Society has been drenched in cultural marxism, many churches included.

I'm sure you have a source on that

You're not doing anything fundamentally different when you say "ITS DA ELITES" and not "DA JOOZ", you've just traded one outgroup for another. Sorry that Jews are so beyond criticism to you that it beggars belief the reason people havent liekd them for all of time is actually not their fault

he got it on Anon Babble so it must be true

ITS DA ELITES

Is much worse. Instead of scapegoating a foreign, relatively hostile group it's scapegoating success within your own community.
Individuals don't control the emergent systems. A group spoiled by success like the Christian west will grow naive about the threats to their way of life and think they're being selfish by not sharing that success by importing Congolese pygmies into their walled garden.

Individuals don't control the emergent systems

If only you could extend the same reasonable doubt to jews as well, they arent a hivemind with lockstep thoughts and interests. they have saints and sinners in their ranks same as every other culture on earth. and yes, theres even honest people and genuine reformers within "the elites" themselves

If only you could

Nothing I said even slightly implies I don't.

Who are these reformers you speak of? Most jews with power seem to use it for evil.

not particularly talking about jews, but the wealthy and powerful elites in general.
I would argue that people like Mark Cuban and Bill Gates have made a conscious effort to use their wealth for good and directly helped hundreds of thousands of people with their philanthropy

anon are you trying to convince someone who types 'the Jews' that bill gates is a good guy. lel.

How convenient for OP to suddenly go silent when this was said while continuing to respond to the easy stuff with the same arguments he's been spouting the entire thread, moments later. If you want to be desperate, OP, you have to commit and respond to the stuff that's uncomfortable to concede to, and not ignore or strawman or repeat yourself. Otherwise, you're just a middling fence-sitter; an asshole.

kek

You are fat and mahomedian.

Bill Gates has done a lot of harm and he is not a good guy. He made a killing during covid.

two of the worst people alive are le good guys because they spent so much money on PR campaigns convincing me they're good

They're not evil because they're rich and powerful, they're evil because they promote anti-human corporate propaganda that transfers power out of the hands of individuals into the hands of non human global systems fuelled by brainwashing.

They are good because they make you seethe so hard your pimples pop.

its funny how leftoids always invent a word salad instead of saying "the jews"
and rightoids always invent a word salad instead of saying "capitalism"

Surely being funny doesn't outweigh the pure evil of undermining local sustainability and autonomy globally? Bill Gates has been doing that since the early windows days and he made more money from "philanthropy" than he gave away.

Yes. You aren't a person if you don't have enemies or people who consider you as such.

Blaming either of those things is the height of retarded brainwashed behaviour and resenting any attempt to actually describe the complexities of the real world means you'll never grow beyond that stage of development. You'll always be a retard.

I can already tell that you jerk off to andrew tate soundbytes

Yes the very well-known and infamous Franklin Prophecy is this unheard of text to modern Americans and must be a hoax, despite no evidence being conjured up to decry such a historical statement. Wikipedia (prominently Israeli authors, publicly and proudly), dismissed it, so it must be a false claim. Just like the Protocols, right? Just a happy coincidence that every word in that book has something reflected in the modern day, but hey! Snopes said!

all of Adam Curtis's films go to weird and off road places, he's one of the most visually interesting documentarians since Errol Morris. I will admit the way he views the world is kind of a stretch sometimes, connecting a cultural motif here with an economic policy there. It doesn't always join up neatly in as satisfying a way as his narratives might imply, but as audio visual histories of the space and atmosphere and feeling of the subject he's documenting, his films are fantastic.
Definitely recommend All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving Grace, that's probably his peak.
Also we got a trail for new one:
youtube.com/watch?v=AQc8625Y03g
Shifty
Comes out in June
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Botposts get an extra debump

Samefag?

nice essay bro, but wheres the source

Burden of evidence is on the accuser. The source is claimed to be a first-hand statement. It is up to deniers to prove the contrary. This is how debate has always worked, and will always continue to work. If you don't trust the given source, then prove it is fake (which you will not).

Yes if you read the thread for five minutes you'd know it's one guy vs about 5 or 6 strangers.

Truth nuke

lmao i should have said this to my phd advisor when they asked me where i got my quotes from

I accept your albeit pathetic concession.

okay man lmao
btw plato said ur mum's a ho

Bong wants (You)s

proceeds to get shit on for an entire workday

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I don't believe white people should perform ingroup preference when the rest of the world does

OK Goyim

Ben Franklin said this!

<Yeah? Where?

NOOOO!! YOU HAVE TO PROVE HE DIDN'T SAY IT!!

I hate the jews but Nazis can't be taken seriously.

Nazism is a political system. You mean antisemitics.

Nigga Heil Hitler OP

Omg upvote! This reminded me so much of Ricky Gervais!