Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning

Take out all the repetitive exposition, constant flashbacks, and meaningless technobabble and maybe the movie would have been much better (and shorter). Not sure how they went from Ghost Protocol/Rogue Nation/Fallout to this and the previous one.

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It really was just Dead Reckoning Part 2. I had hoped that when they changed the title they'd also look at some of the criticism from Part 1 and try to fix Part 2 but instead they just doubled down. Cruise has a huge ego and McQuarrie seems like he enables it.

The constant glazing of Hunt, the needless callbacks and flashbacks (especially in the first half), the bloated story, etc... Im sure someone could edit these movies down into something watchable but as it stands, they suck

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The constant glazing of Hunt

Yes! I couldn't fucking stand that shit. The constant flashbacks, even to events that occur in the same movie, really fucked the movie up.

I haven't seen part 2 yet, but 1 and what 2 sounds like is just some esoteric plot rather than some simple "launch nukes" typical bad guy plot it should have been.

What's with the constant glazing of Hunt? Do they just suck his dick the entire movie?

opening mentions ai is manipulating data and nobody knows whats real

this is never brought up again nor does it play any factor in the plot

For me, it's when Hayley Atwell gazes up at Ethan all wide-eyed and tells him he's the only man in the world who could really control the Entity and use it to make society better, until Ethan refuses like the noble philosopher-king he is.

even to events that occur in the same movie

That drove me mad, multiple flashbacks to scenes and moments they already spent far too long on. Why???

Do they just suck his dick the entire movie?

Yes but also Atwell's character states outright that only Hunt has the ability to use the Entity to build a better world and no one else on the planet does.

to the people who programmed your phone, they're basically the same thing.

How about when he goes into the chamber to communicate with the entity and Paris warns him that it will change him but Ethan is so immune to the entity's manipulations and torture that he is perfectly fine and comes out with a fully formed plan to stop it.

It was also funny how the last movie showed the entity can hack anything and impersonate members of the team, and then they continue using all the same shit but the entity just stops fucking with them that way.
Could have been a cool opportunity to show the team going low tech like the show and outsmarting it, but oh well.

What was the point of Gabriel? He decides to turn on the Entity off screen between movies and then becomes a cackling villain at the end. They gloss over the fact that the previous one introduced him as a mysterious man from Ethan's past from before the IMF and show the same flashback again in this one but never explain any of it. Why include it at all?

Yeah they mention going 'analog' but never really show any of the old tech they would be using and the Entity still knows what they are up do and what Luther is building so I guess they weren't really analog or off-grid?

that was so fucking stupid.

ethan is the only one who can stop him

cult has sprung up worshipping the entity, with agents in every government secretly working for it

entity can get any one of these people to open the vault for it

no, i won't kill ethan now that i have him, he'll open the vault for me

The guy who wrote this also wrote usual suspects. I'm starting to think he stole the screenplay

For a movie that loves its flashbacks and exposition its weird that the one new mystery they introduced in the previous one is given no explanation or resolution. I'd say they just forgot but then they still included the same flashback in this one to remind us that Gabriel has some mysterious connection to Ethan.

not to mention they showed ethan and his team walking around london, one of the most heavily surveilled cities on the planet, and no one tries to kill him.

world on the brink of nuclear annihilation

entity has control of the entire internet

protests

doomsday cult in every level of government

...

perfect time for the embassy to host a dinner gala

Its like they couldn't commit to a single plot point they introduced.

US bureaucrats have a champagne party as the world's about to end

Sounds pretty realistic to me

Gabriel's only job is to smile smugly every time Ethan just missed him. Ethan is running down the subway escalator but when he reaches the bottom the train is pulling away and Gabriel is smiling at him through the window. That's the whole movie for 150 minutes.

Randomly making that guy Jim Phelps' son to explain why he distrusts Ethan seemed extra frivolous when it had no actual bearing on the plot. They guy could have distrusted Ethan because Ethan is always going rogue and causing problems. Why did he need to be Phelps' son?

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They guy could have distrusted Ethan because Ethan is always going rogue and causing problems

That was actually his reason, he said he never even knew his father
That whole "twist" meant literally nothing

Yeah but he still made it a point to say that Ethan framed his father

And even if he believed that or not, like you said, it means nothing. So why include it? Just so they could throw in more flashbacks to the first movie?

Gabriel backstory not explained, turned into a mounstache twirling villain

girl who died in Ethan's flashback not even mentioned

almost all plot threads dropped

I wonder what the fuck happened behind the scenes, virtually all plans were scrapped and we got a simpler version of the story.
but unlike Dead Reckoning which feels very inert and boring (it's mostly setup for a film that doesn't pay any of it off, and it fucking kills Ilsa Faust), Final Reckoning at least has a pulse and keeps it going. Genuinely loved the submarine and plane sequences, and the christ melodrama bullshit actually got me, felt very Metal Gear at times. Really dug it in the end

Every movie does that
Remember the "living manifestation of destiny" line from 5

i enjoyed it as is. a good send off

this is the direction this franchise was heading since 5, it's what McQuarrie and Cruise are into

I reckon for me, it's Stitch.

Should have had him become head of the IMF or finally retire or something at the end.

Instead we get all the characters stare awkwardly at each other from a distance and leave.

That line is kinda funny and in the context of the scene works. Atwell's characters unironically saying that Ethan is the only person on the planet with the wisdom to use the entity correctly and should do so is just bad

Not sure how they went from Ghost Protocol/Rogue Nation/Fallout to this and the previous one.

Yeah, they brought back the shitty drama from the first trilogy.

While they're fun action movies, I don't like how the newest movies keep doing this whole "Ethan, we know eachother from before. Ethan, I'm the architect of all your pain and the monument to all your sins. Ethan, remember this one time in the IMF 30 years ago? Ethan, remember when we went on a date 35 years ago? What was the name of the wine we drank, Ethan? It's the password to the bomb, Ethan. Remember, Ethan?"
It's just fucking annoying. Ghost Protocol sets up Michael Nyqvist's character well, he's some crazy dude that's been on IMF's watchlist, or something like that, and the beginning of the movie is kicked off by him becoming more active and a real threat. But Ethan doesn't know him personally, like every other fucking villain afterwards. I hate the British dude with the raspy voice, just awful character.

Pom looked so fucking hot in that scene.

Not sure how they went from Ghost Protocol/Rogue Nation/Fallout

They all have it. It's just those movies are tighter and have less nostalgia bait

Let's be honest: not a single Mission Impossible film has ever had a storyline which makes a lick of sense or that anyone actually cares about. It's Chandler plotting taken to its Hollywood endpoint. When the scene's going nowhere, in walks a man with a nuclear bomb in his hand. The story has always been an excuse for twists and turns on the way to the next action scene. Dead/Final Reckoning is no different in this regard to any of its predecessors. Can you summarise the plot of the first MI film without looking it up? All the hidden character motivations, the logical sequence of double crosses and reveals? If you even remember in any detail, does it even make sense? Try recall the names of any of the one-off characters, all those team members supposedly oh-so-important to Hunt who vanish by the next instalment without a trace in a show of spycraft better than any rubber mask.

And that's actually fine. What the films are, at their core, is a rollercoaster ride. The only thing which matters in this kind of story is momentum and tension and a main character competent enough to hang it all off. Chandler knew best. Though at least he'd have never come up with something as hacky as the Rabbit's Foot.

The only reason Dead/Final seem different is because they waste nearly an hour each telling the audience to care about this plot when everybody has already entered into the film with the understanding that such a thing doesn't matter in the slightest. You're here for the stunts -- which the filmmakers know full well -- yet they frontload both parts of this 2-part grand finale with heaps of dull, repetitive, obvious exposition and callbacks to plots you don't care about any more than this one. The point where Final Reckoning at last dispenses with all that interminable set-up and puts Ethan on the submarine is such a marked, drastic shift in gear that you can almost sense the entire cinema collectively waking up at once.

Why did he need to be Phelps' son?

I expected him to be recruited for the mission by Kittridge just to tug a Ethan's guilty conscience.

They really should have just brought Ethan in front of the president, have her ask "What are you going to do about it?", cut to the Alaska stuff, then cut back to Ethan who is now on a submarine about to make the dive

Idk if Tom Cruise just wanted to use some more of his US Navy connections but that whole thing was kinda pointless

MI:I, Ghost Protocol and Rogue Nation/Fallout have cool plots though.
III has half a plot and half mistery box.

7 & 8 struggle I think because the writers seem to make the villain that menacing and the danger real

AI can only really launch nukes but a man can shoot you and launch nukes as seen in 4. It didn't really trust the audience to understand the stakes I think and suffered for it.

mystery box

Did you really need to know what was inside?

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I thought it was a sad rethread of the Chimera virus from II just rebranded.

have almost a full set piece without dialogue as Ethan goes into the deep and explores the Sevastapol

they absolutely had to add the line "The torpedo tube." even though it's clear as day as he's trying to escape and the camera zooms in and focus on the very obvious torpedo tube

Shame. Would've been even cooler.

Gabriel was supposed to be the manifestation of the AI because it's hard to have a villain that's really just on a computer screen. I actually like what they did with him because he stops being a lackey and has some agency.

MacGuffin from previous movie was so unimportant that we are just now 10 years later telling you what it was

Absolutely the worst franchise in existence.

It's just a macguffin
You don't need to know anymore than it's something to keep away from bad guys
The retcon is kinda stupid because is the US really gonna invade a country for a computer virus?

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It was fine honestly. If you ignore the fact that this was supposed to be the last movie in the franchise, it's a good MI movie. Lacklaster ending for sure

Ethan not destroying the Entity after trapping it and just keeps it with him for what reason???

ambiguous if Ethan is gonna keep doing missions or retires, his actual wife is nowhere to be seen

the big plot point that killing the Entity will basically annihilate the current cyberspace gets completely ignored at the end and never mentioned

Seriously, I feel like I left the theatre too early and there was a postcredit scene.

There were some bullshit scenes as well that bothered me, like

Ethan surviving the swim up from the submarine without a suit

Grace pickpocketing 2 guns and 2 radios from these guards at the gala just by bumping into them

Last chase with the planes was very cool even though we already seen him do that multiple times. Overall 7/10, Hayley was 10/10

SIR THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT MAP OF RUSSIA AND UKRAINE SIR SIR TAKE IT DOWN SIR SIR!

How so?

Ethan surviving the swim up from the submarine without a suit

Him ripping open his wetsuit in the sub and not instantly going into some kind of hypothermic shock was definitely bullshit, but the setpiece as a whole was so well done I'm willing to overlook that aspect.

Hayley was 10/10

She honestly looked even better than she did in the last film, and she already looked pretty amazing in that one.

How does he do it, bros?

It's just a macguffin

You don't need to know anymore than it's something to keep away from bad guys

They did it better in almost every other film, only JJ makes it weak shit.

NOC list

Cool shit.

Chimera

Dangerous shit.

Rabbit's foot

Mystery box faggotry

Nuclear codes

Nuclear codes

Frozen funds

Cool shit.

Nuclear... cores

Redo of Ghost Protocol

Key

Cool shit

Poison pill + Source Code

Cool shit

I haven't seen part 2 yet, but 1 and what 2 sounds like is just some esoteric plot rather than some simple "launch nukes" typical bad guy plot it should have been.

Part 2 is the worst of both worlds. There’s endless wordy pseud nonsense exposition about fate and destiny and probability and inevitability and about the AI’s godlike powers to manipulate reality and there are cults of people who worship the AI like a god and Celtic biblical references and blathering about how the AI is so smart it can see all the probabilities of the future so it literally cannot lose and it will remake the world in its image blah blah blah blah blah... and then it turns out the AI’s cunning plan is “launch nooks everybody die XD” and the way to beat it is to plug McGuffin 1 into McGuffin 2.

*Cryptic not Celtic

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Frozen funds

Cool shit

Really?

I had other expectations of the Syndicate being comic evil and they were just a little worried about their accounting situation after so much terrorism.
I thought it was a cool callback on Voight turning rouge on MI because after so much shit he went as an agent, he only made like $60k a year.

Is there a reason for the constant use of dutch angles in these last two movies? I thought it was a nod to the first one since Kittridge came back, but it just became absurd after a while.

But they weren't using the funds to get rich like in Die Hard but to commit more terrorism

What would they even do for MI9?
And there will be a 9 despite all the finality this movie tries to portray

They were making the mother of all omelettes, man. New World Order and evil shit needs proper funding.

Yeah, the last two had an obscene fucking amount of dutch angles. Watching the scene with the gang and Atwell right before train sequence in Dead Reckoning is ridiculous, every other shot is a dutch angle.