Since WB ruined dune (aka DUNC) WHATS the next sci fi book series that would make for a good series...

Everything by Le Guin is prime material to be utterly ruined by Netflix.

Dispossessed but the rebel lunar colony is made up of powerful ethnic minorities including our hero, a suave black man who travels to the planet below of entitled, weedy crackers (and slutty snowbunnies smdh)

Rocannon's World is literally already about blacks in charge of a mythical world

Fucking camping in the snow with a space-tranny alien who wants your dick

I've actually just ruined the Dispossessed for myself now.

There's too much exposition required and the people who could handle a little talking would switch it off as soon as the vampires show up. Also the portrayal of multiple personality disorder as being real people is kooky.

Never heard of Alastair Reynolds until I saw his short stories featured in LDR. What's the best full length novel to start with? I've only read the short stories Beyond Aquila Rift, Zima Blue and Milna's Flowers.

I read pic related based on a recommendation from this gay website (specifically this board). It was fucking shit. Thanks for wasting my time.

Bruh

Bro

That's ok, sweatie. Just stick to your pretty picture comic books.

I tried the Poseidon's Children series and couldn't get into it

That's when Reynolds got pozzed and started baiting for awards by adding minorities and troons in his novels. The novels before that are god tier. The only thing good after that are the novels and stories set in Revelation Space, he doesn't want to kill his golden goose, so he keeps it politics and propaganda free. Poseidon's Children and Revenger are borderline unreadable.

Rama

This board is open. Hyperion is the best sci fi book.

house of suns and pushing ice are great too

Read this from reynolds and was hooked for the first half then it fell apart completely because it beat you over the head with what it was trying to say, then it repeated everything again in case you didnt get it the first time. It really soured me on the whole thing but i can see it working as a mini series without the inner monologue ruining the story.
Are his other books like this? I havent tried another 1 because this 1 pissed me off so much i didnt even finish the last chapter because i knew where it was going for 1/3 of the book already

Keep reading. He's got another exciting series of novels where Africa is the most technologically advanced civilization of a future earth.

Those are older books, half a decade before Poseidon. Like I said. Blue Remembered Earth (2012) is the delineation line. Everything before it = good, everything after it = meh or bad (except Rev Space).

Eversion is one of his weakest novels if not the weakest. Read anything before 2012. House of Suns will blow your mind.

Here. Here's something more appropriate for you, you queer.

Yes, his books are bloated as fuck.

Cool ill check it out. Im on the last book of a tchaikovsky's series Lords of Uncreation and its pretty bland so im looking to get something engaging next.
Tchaikovsky is really good at creating alien creatures and cultures but god damn he can't end a book in a satisfying way ever. His Children of Time series could have been amazing with the sentient spiders but he just rushed the ending of the first book and changed the direction of the whole series.
I just wish there were more writers like Gene Wolfe that made me want to reread the book 10 times to put all the pieces together

Anything produced now would be ruined
best to leave it alone for a generation or two
I still think Foundation would be good, then again, can end up with abortions like the Apple show

Why do you act like reynolds is some advanced reading? Nothing that gets mass appeal will ever be difficult to understand because it has to be dumbed down for retards to enjoy

I was actually disappointed of how straightforward Rama was. Could work as a movie quiete well.

Nothing, stop fucking around with stuff I like.

Adaptations

Adapt my nuts in your face cunt.

one of my favorite "first contact" books. i think it might take too much exposition for an average length movie but it would be a brilliant mini series. have you seen the cgi mock up?

youtu.be/VkR2hnXR0SM?si=7MWO8Kr1zC_8OejF

is alastair reynolds stuff good? which do you anons recommend? i loved "pushing ice" but i started another of his books and the main character was an assassin and i put it down immediately because that always sucks.

Yeah Tchaikovsky is weird, sometimes very good, sometimes bland af. Lords of Uncreation started well and just... meandered to nowhere. The ending is ok though, better than I expected.

He lost the plot with the last Children of Time novel kek. I did like the first two.

Currently reading his latest standalone novel - Shroud... it's meh. Read Alien Clay before that, also meh. He is hit or miss. He started injecting too much leftist propaganda into his novels as time went on, very disappointing. Alien Clay was unreadable at times with whole pages dedicated to how capitalism is bad and communism is good.

House of Suns is what you are looking for I bet. Proper galaxy spanning space opera that is interesting start to finish.

House of Suns if you want standalone. Revelation Space if you want a series. Don't read anything after 2012. Read the thread ;P

easy highly CGI'd horror sloppa

Nobody ever talks about Terminal World

I was a huge fan of Cage of Souls until the protagonist started using psychic powers out of nowhere. That was the first tchaikovsky i read.
In u creation im right at the part where the parthenon attacked the eye and its pissing me off the ollie was right because she is the worst character i want her to get stranded in a desert without her walker and have to crawl with her shitty stub arm, the fuckn' cunt

Proper galaxy spanning space opera that is interesting start to finish

Really i just want something like Book of The New Sun where the begining is recontextualized and has way different meaning because of the ending. I havent been able to receate that feeling of "holy shit the signs were all there the whole time" from rereading since that book like 6 years ago

It's pretty cool. Airship kino is always welcome and I am a sucker for areas with different levels of tech. It gave me Zones of Thought vibes. Sadly Reynolds confirmed he is never going back to that universe.

The first book would make for an interesting atmospheric scifi movie that most audiences would be bored by, but I'd fucking love.
The rest of the books would be perfect for a miniseries or series of TV movies like Childhood's End got. I liked the first book more myself, but I can see the others appealing to a wider drama-focused audience.
Just two solid hours of wide shots in the interior of Rama, that'd be incredible on a big screen.

and the main character was an assassin and i put it down immediately because that always sucks.

You take that fucking back. Vlad taltos series is one of the funniest and most engaging series ive ever read. Every book is a stand alone story of vlad's life, usually involving a contract and its fucking KINO

Spin the drum.

The entire first book is a joke of "a priest walks into a brothel" and it would make such a good mini series but i bet audiences would get really mad at the ending with Inhuma suddenly being a thing.
Zero % chance Short Sun could ever be adapted

i'd still like to see something from Ian Banks books despite the occasional faggotry

Use of Weapons would be pretty cool to see

never heard of it but still looking kinda shit there anon. i'll look it up though. i just really dislike it because authors seem to think it makes a character edgy and interesting but they just suck their own cocks every time, metaphorically speaking. assassins have always been poor, disposable scum not suave, rich and accomplished badasses, it's the lowest of the low but movies/books etc always think it's cool and edgy.

Use of Weapons would be pretty cool to see

I've had the audiobook sitting in my archive for a few years and haven't yet gotten around to it, working through the Ringworld stuff as I work in the garden this year.
Pic related would probably make for a good miniseries, maybe 3 film's worth or so.

inb4 30 minutes spent in one episode describing insurgent cell network organization

I always imagine as first series of Long Sun being done in a way which hides anything futuristic and then slowly hints at it, with the finale showing that they're actually in an O'neil cylinder.
Would have to have lots of indoor scenes and courtyards but the story and setting suit that mostly.
It's a shite idea and I don't want anyone touching Wolfes stuff but it always pops up in my head when I think about the books. Probably because of this cover.

Zero % chance Short Sun could ever be adapted

more of a chance than New Sun but yeah Long Sun would be the one to get any adaptation lets pray they never get their gredy uninspired kike hands on it

she is the worst character i want her to get stranded in a desert without her walker and have to crawl with her shitty stub arm, the fuckn' cunt

Right there with you. I hated her so much. She brought down the whole story, absolutely unbearable.

Really i just want something like Book of The New Sun where the begining is recontextualized and has way different meaning because of the ending.

Yeah that's a tall order. BotNS is lauded for a reason. It's hard to find something similar. That dense layered reality feeling is not something I've encountered in other works. Not a big fan of Wolfe by the way, but I enjoyed it enough. People usually recommend Dying Earth by Jack Vance as a similar enough concept.

I recommend this series
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Hutchinson#Fractured_Europe_Sequence
goodreads.com/en/book/show/18143945-europe-in-autumn

It's... weird. It is deeply layered and has multiple realities engaging with one another, it crosses genres often and has enough mystery to keep you going despite being very slow at times. The prose is quite good although not on Wolfe's level by any means. It's not as philosophical or religious, it's more political than anything. The narrative does have some minor metaphysical elements. The more you read the more it recontextualizes the beginning, but it's not nearly as strong as BotNS. You might like it. I was skeptical, but it won me over. I've noticed people either adore it or hate it with a passion lol.

Just two solid hours of wide shots in the interior of Rama

Morgan Freeman was trying to get it made in the in the early 2000s. He was going to play Commander Norton with his two wives. Could have been kino.

Vernor Vinge's stuff. though Deepness would be hard to do since half the cast would be spiders.

Peace War (with the time stopping bubbles) would be doable.

Marooned in Realtime is one of my favourite books of all time. So damn good and an original concept at that.

That cant really be done because they talk about the long sun lighting up the other side of the whorl when its shadelow in viren. They point up and see other cities lighting up across the way.

assassins have always been poor, disposable scum not suave, rich and accomplished badasses

He is scum. He works for the mob and runs a couple streets with unregistered gambling and brothels. He isn't edgy, its more comical than anything.
Its a neat world where humans are the underclass to an elf like race so he is seen as just some shitty dude that will die soon because the elves live thousands of years.
Its also one of the only series where the character actually reacts to close calls with death by actually breaking down with the shakes having almost died. Its very human

In my head it's an adaptation where it doesn't include anything related to the whorl or robots until partway through S1. Later on, think the god-panel in the brothel, you see behind the panel and all the wires and shit, whereas the one in the schola beforehand, in the show, would be covered with ornaments and set in a wall. Same with buildings showing that some walls underneath paint/plaster is metal sheets. The teacher who is a robot just seems like a regular woman but then later on you see her doing robot shit.
None of this is shown in a way of pointing it out and going 'ohh look at this viewer isn't this weird' but tastefully and always with a conversational tone, which keeps the show interesting through all the nonsci-fi world building sections and character introductions.
Like I said it's just something in my head I'm not saying it's good or that I want an adaptation (I really don't) but it's just fun to think about.

I would like to add he also isn't a boss character and every time he is called into a meeting with his bosses he wonders if its them trying to set him up to be killed. I went in expecting it to be shit but ended up loving the world and creativity of how he gets his target in a position where he can kill them

How would you do the gods appearing on a giant television screen? I can kind of see how you could do it but i think there would need to be some scifi in it like Blood's hovercar or the flyer we see at the very start that begind our journey.
I think having the scifi isn't bad, but it could certainly hide that they are on a colony ship.
They would need to dance around why its even called "long sun" and the terms shade up and shade low.
I have actually been drafting up a little story for myself that kind of does what you are looking for but it would be a on colony ship a couple generations after a failed revelution so it appears post apocalyptic with weird elements like shifting gravity midway through a long tunnel so they are crawling down then suddenly fall forward into a new section

this shit makes me feel so comfy it must be like what boomers feel when they read tom clancy or reacher novels

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Retarded newfags, this is just a way to get offtopic threads. Everyone knows Anon Babble has the best book discussion, certainly its much better than the typical movie discussion on this board.

that's on my list, I was afraid it might be slop, how good is it? silly one dimensional characters or actual depth and thought?

How dare anon speculate on what might make for good television/film on this, the television/film board.

You're spot on about having to dance around it, like I said it's not good and I wouldn't want it.
But if I were being sincere I would say that the whole god thing is done like they were actual gods, it would be a magic mirror rather than a tv screen, or a holographic projector that makes swirling mystical colours.
Anything could be pushed back until after the reveal, hinted but not fully shown, or presented as mystical rather than technological.
Blood's hovercar for instance would need to be pushed back, but the setting of the poor district would look like any fantasy city. In fact you could have a reveal of some futurstic stuff that makes the reader think they are in a future that went semi-primitive, becuase that's what it is, just without the full context.
The whole idea is the opposite of what they did with Silk and Horn in the Short Sun books. All the hints were there but only on retrospection (at least it was for me until the book practically told us)

I find generation ships to be a great setting for mostly any kind of story, what sort of themes are you playing with?

Anon Babble has the worst book discussion lmao. have you seen the blood meridian threads?

this is LITERALLY the best thread on the board right now

no, no depth whatsoever. very fun battles, very straightforward characters, very simplistic but charming morality, and fun little scenarios that you get to see the main characters get out of by being clever. the author is also ex american navy so you'll be exposed to some naive lil house on the prairie-tier morality.
it's slop alright, but harmless and enjoyable slop, i didn't compare it to reacher by accident

what sort of themes are you playing with?

Haven't got that far yet mostly filling in the setting, and backstory of why and how it got to being this way. Its mostly just thought exercises i do before bed i like to create worlds and jot down ideas.
I havent really done a scifi one yet so im struggling on how i want everything to fit together but its a lot of fun for me to basically tell myself bed time stories in my mind and write down the parts i like

not sure if want.jpg

I like a bit more complexity or it becomes one of those scifi sloppa you can pick up at walmart

have you seen the blood meridian threads?

i have seen them, which part of them upsets you? or wait, is this when you say "lmao if you don't know what's wrong with them you're a retard too"? that would be a very nice contribution to thread quality if so.

The backstory of Chasm City with the fleet of generation ships traveling to the new world would make for a fantastic Love, Death, Robots style short. Maybe 45mins-1hr though since there's more to it and to build up suspense

The entire Revelation Space books and stories catalogue can make a FANTASTIC series. Complex, 10 seasons, hundred million per episode :^)

yeah i got a few of those I like. My sci-fi one is first contact in a modern day setting so not much 'humans in spaceships' to give any inspiration with.
Only recent book I've read of a generation ship(other than Ls) was as >210754109 points out. Forgot that it was actually in Chasm City and not it's own book called 'Sky's Edge'

a fire upon the deep would definitely need to be a series but i don't think a cast of cgi dog aliens would work with wide audiences. his book "rainbow's end" was good and could make a nice modest movie though.
i'll pick up an ebook copy. i do still enjoy dark fantasy stuff.

What's a sci-fi book/series that handles first contact with intelligent aliens in a non-retarded way? Are there any that don't involve immediate attempts at extermination, just cautious bewilderment?

complexity, sloppa, walmart, it's all relative. lost fleet has no complexity. however that makes it much less susceptible to cringe. red rising, the expanse - these have complexity. but also tons of cringe. up to you really.
i have tons and tons of time on the trail or on the road so i've got hours per day to dedicate to listening to audiobooks. so i consume all my sloppa in audiobook form and it doesn't feel like a waste of time. if you've got like an hour per day to dedicate to reading, don't bother with lost fleet. try blindsight or lord of light or dying earth

lmao if you don't know what's wrong with them you're a retard too

this but unironically

blindisght and pushing ice are my two favorites that fit this.

a fire upon the deep

what if i had the coolest concept for a setting ever but instead i ignored it and made the book about talking dogs

and then made a sequel

focused solely on the talking dogs

gee... thanks vernor...

Why doesn't Hollywood make their own shit instead of capeshitting other people's stories?

Childhood's End is an interesting one.

Stephen Baxter couldn't write an entertaining story to save his life and the only people who enjoy this kind of sci fi are friendless meat calculators.

i saw an article about a studio working on a ringworld show or movie
of course the writers talked about having to rework the women of the novel
one girl being lucky and the other being a whore? that won't do

that one Smiling Friends episode ruined demon ayy lmaos for me forever

You guys aren't SQUARES are you?

I just finished this one and the first sequel in the past month, "reworking" Teela Brown would completely alter the trajectory of the story, wouldn't it?
Assuming she was right as a Protector, when talking about "her" luck actually being future humanity's luck working through her to bring about that future

Depends what you want. His Xeelee stuff is pretty good and he is king of the Big Dumb Object subgenre. His latest novels are quite boring though.

These are absolutely fantastic and you'll never guess where they go
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_(Baxter_novel)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_(novel)

dune fucked

foundation fucked

three body problem fucked

just stop

i really liked it the first time but the tines' stuff is a bit boring on a re-read. they're interesting both because of their scifi biology but also that their political and ideological conflicts are about how to utilize it, but once you know all the details it loses the drama.

soon brother

Are there anymore "guy ends up on a space station for lost souls and has a waifu there" novels?

anymore

is there even one?

ringworld and dune are great

old man's war is fun

blindsight is scary

the expanse is action

WE

Planet Jijo from the Uplift series is such an interesting setting that I'd love to see it tried, just to see what it's like. Multiple races with a long storied history, forging a purposefully-primitive society with a permanent Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.
I just wanna see these weird aliens hanging out together in their weird shared society trading notes on old Earth literature like a bunch of nerds.

Reynold's short story Beyond the Aquila Rift, unless that's what you're already thinking of.

What I would like to see? Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang.

Set during the opening act of a world ending downward spiral, heavily suggested to have been caused by intense pollution and sharp decline in global health, we find ourselves somewhere in Virginia experiencing the summarized life of David Sumner. Seen through the eyes of an awkward child turned serious scientist, his wealthy extensive family proposes what to do in their secluded valley as the world goes to hell. It involves applying scientific research to counter sterility in all living beings. Going off the grid, they put into motion their singular hope meant to ensure civilization - cloning the most prominent members of the families. Ethical and moral dilemmas thrown to the wayside the entire affair seems like a promising attempt until the very first batch of tank-grown clones expresses collective disagreement on how to proceed. According to earlier animal testing normal fertility is supposed to return after couple of generations had passed. However, such interim community will be comprised entirely of clones and much to the founders' dismay they have their own vision of the future.

has nothing to do with the books

freestyle episodes by diversity hire writers

it's shit

Imagine my shock

Any more like it?

I'd rather see the Uplift War.

mfw gorilla warfare pun

HUEUHUEHUE

thoughts on this? this could make a cool movie. it had that convoluted arthouse flick feel but it also became easy to follow after a while, even while throwing concept after concept at you. it had me thinking of aeon flux, lord of light, immortals (movie), diamond age, and anime shit (heads as part of starship design, like rahxephon dolems) while reading. in fact, i think i'm about due for a second reread, because i definitely missed some stuff.

The Expanse
Humanity stumbles upon alien tech in the outer solar system. They start experimenting on it trying to figure out what it does and it suddenly makes a wormhole to somewhere weird. It takes almost half a century before they finally meet the aliens and they're vastly different from humanity since they're an ancient hivemind of less 'physical' beings.

with a permanent Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.

remind me, it has been years

The author was so fucking proud of that goddamned pun
and I would be too, that shit was funny
Also need Tymbrimi gf

GIMME THE BREEDING CARD

Any hard scifi erotica written for men?

i thought the expanse was all in solar system human politics. when does this happen?

look for books about vacuum decay

find a novel and start reading

scientists doing experiments

oops vacuum decay

sphere of destruction starts to expand

rest of humanity just begins to move away from the sphere

some people play tourist and take a shuttle to the surface of the expanding sphere

i stopped reading there

the protag of ringworld fucks all the aliens he can get away with

Wait why wont it work?

Schild's Ladder? Wait until they get inside and find life.

you've probably seen this suggested before, but tchaikovsky's children of time books are really good about alien biology, if that's your thing.
also, dragon's egg.
also, to a lesser extent, blindsight and project hail mary

I thought it was alright even if I couldn't stand the chick. Its imagery never made me think "Damn I want to see this on screen" though.

yeah i read the back of the book but the writing was so fucking dry and boring
on the other hand, john scalzi has pretty good writing and has interesting ideas but 90% of his books are just slop

In the Civilization of Five Galaxies, laws govern which planets get settled and when, allowing worlds to go fallow for a few million years in order to evolve the next batch of near-sentient life ripe for uplifting by Patron races.
Jijo is a fallow world, but it got populated (illegally) by seven "sooner" races one by one, refugees from various events who more or less washed up there.
If the Civilization of Five Galaxies notices them living there, there are dire consequences beyond the immediate removal of the Sooner races and their civilization, their whole species would be on the hook for damages. The inhabitants of Jijo live this way, and made their civilization mostly out of wood and other biodegradable things, even going so far as to practice blowing up their own dams to erase their towns in the event that extraterrestrial authorities show up. Their culture has a sort of fatalism baked into it, where they all know they're not supposed to be there and their ancestors broke the law, that their whole culture might get swept away one day and there's nothing they could do about it.

All Egan is dry and highest tier science jargon. They don't manage to stop the bubble and just accept being part of the new universe

I dislike Scalzi with a passion. He is the daytime indian soap opera of scifi.

ooooh I remember, thanks. yeah that was pretty bleak, but cool at the same time.

Scalzi has fallen off so badly it's hard to believe he even wrote his best earlier novels. Worst part is I think it's intentional as he's just trend chasing to stay relevant. To think the same person wrote Old Man's War and Redshirts.

first three books are the alien tech gathering biomass and building a ring to the wormhole junction, next three books are exploring the other star systems connected to it and the humans fighting for control, all while many of the humans rush the lay claim to the other star systems. One star system has a ton fo alien tech still on it and alien shipyards. In the last three books, the Martians capture it, rename it Laconia, and start researching and building alien tech for the next few decades. In one of the other new systems, they find a giant diamond the size of jupiter. After researching it a while, they discover the aliens sealed themselves off inside it a really long time ago because they were hiding from another alien species that was trying to kill them. They're a hive mind and want to merge with humanity creating a new hive mind.

My first thought was Hamilton's books because he puts way more sex than is necessary into them, but he's also got a thinly veiled cuck fetish where every single girl his main characters actually want to have sex with will refuse them and screw everyone else instead for absolutely no fucking reason.

john scalzi is a funny guy, i picked up old man's war, almost dropped it within the first 30 pages when he had that embarrassing "and then everyone clapped" scene of the main character and his friend owning the redneck with facts and logic epic style.
but i stuck with it, and it ended up being one of the most humanity fuck yeah book series ever written, despite him being a humongous libtard (i think he was the one who came up with the phrase "being white is like playing a video game on easy mode"?). when perry destroyed the combined fleet of alien NATO with a single push of a button due to subterfuge, i just about came in my pants. maybe i wasn't supposed to feel that way. just goes to show i have no media literacy.

Yup, it's hard to believe. I stay away from his work like it's the plague now. He went full political propaganda.

it's not hard sci-fi but altered carbon has sex scenes that go on for like 10 pages

They're a hive mind and want to merge with humanity creating a new hive mind.

So, nu-Foundation? Miss me with that commie gay shit.

the universe is retarded in scale, random nobodies can cause earthquakes/desert storms etc.
impossible to show on screen cheaply without AI so we'll have to wait a couple of decades before it happens

Are the novels better than the second season of the TV show?

I loved the group of young ayys who went off in their own little wooden submarine on an adventure, they're all different species but share the same culture and act like any pack of kids together in a way that's neat considering how varied they are biologically. It's interesting later on when off-worlders note how strange they are compared to examples of their species found outside Jijo.

tfw no wheeled gf

scalzi

he was a basedjak before there was such a thing

massive TDS leftist author

female

gets Hugo for her political believes not her writing

it's all so tiresome

Hugo Awards have been a joke for ages. Winners just went from "black female author" to "author is Chinese" in recent years.

blindsight is a favorite, i've got children of time on my reading backlog and i'll check the other two out. thanks anon.
worth a read for that? i saw an episode of the tv show and it didn't interest me very much.

the first and second novels are better than the first and second seasons, the third novel is terrible, no direction, completely meandering. an extreme contrast to the first two novels which had a very clear plot direction

someone needs envoy for a thing

hire envoy

explain goal

set envoy loose

third book starts with him doing one thing, then he drifts on to something else, then drifts on to a third thing, and i think at the fourth thing there's some purpose and end goal that becomes apparent.
real shame too, because the world is very interesting and the third book supposedly has good lore dumps. i couldn't finish it though.

sigh

the books are much better

I love it. One of my favorite series. Loved the near-future depiction of humanity realistically spreading out into the solar system and the only way for them to go to a new star was a really slow generational ship. Plus humans "evolving" to live in zero gravity and permanently changing. The characters and factions were great, story arcs great, and it has a satisfying conclusion unlike most other series

This isn't at ALL how I imagined Murderbot would look like.

no, the expanse is comprised of 10 long and not very good books. it's not worth a read, especially now that you know the main story beats. the characters suck ass, the prose sucks ass, and those three sentences make up like half of the interesting stuff that happens in those 10 books

I disagree, the books are pretty good. They ended it in a retarded way though.

I loved everything that wasn't protomolocule stuff.

really, that's funny, because the one thing i agree on with the other anon is that all things considered, at least they managed to wrap it all up in a decent way. the destination was good, even if the journey sucked

Show made some improvements with good casting and character mergers.

tfw you're about to start drum spinning

I want more gadget porn and technobabble.
Contemporary scifi is always about invisible aliens, who may or may not even be here yet, talking, telepathy, more talking.

sigh its woke shit isnt it?
anyone know how the tv show turned out?

the new series they're doing is promising. first book was good, actually looking forward to the next one

We didn't get anything from the ayy lmaos, there was no fight with them, it just fizzled out.

Lord of Light could be good.

This may surprise you, but yeah it is total woke slop

pol brained retards we're discussing the quality of the book which is actually pretty good. every gal i recommend it to loves me for it.
it's a really good mystery.

eeeh maybe, amos was good, bobbi was good. drummer made for good eye candy, but the way she was portrayed was show oc, basically.
tom jane and the chernobyl guy were wasted.
the belter creole was criiiiiiiiiiiiiinge unbearable criiiiiiiiiiiiinge

saar

this would have been good if someone had made it before pajeets got access to the internet

quality

there is none, it's impossible when the author is a mentally ill leftist spewing propaganda on every page. the book is utter shit.

Yeah that was pretty good. It surprised me a couple times which rarely happens these days. I'm looking forward to more.

DON'T DO IT

That's not true at all. They were right about to take over humanity using Duarte until they fought and killed him. Then Holden had to shut down everything and trap all humans where they were so they could escape from the aliens.

Did you read the novella btw? goodreads.com/book/show/215760525-livesuit

every gal i recommend it to loves me for it

belter creole

That's always the problem with future stuff. You want people to change, grow, evolve, be different a century down the line, but also somehow expect it to be impressive, exactly what you think in your head, some miracle of creativity that the author creates a whole new language that makes you want to spout it at all times. Nah, you'll just be mocking and not give any props for even trying unlike most scifi.

yeah you're right actually, when it comes to imaginary future languages, i prefer not trying. i prefer not trying in books, but i especially prefer not trying in live action.
you're trying to imply i'm a hypocrite but you're doing it by imagining some contradictory position which i've never held and strawmanning me with it.

the culture series is very good especially player of games and use of weaponry. it is incredibly woke BUT just remember the culture is the antagonist. the culture is basically star fleet, like the borg but marxist, passive assimilation like boiling a frog
youtube.com/watch?v=xy5jAixHhSA

8 one hour long episodes per book.

it has slight leftie undertones, but it's not woke, it predates that bullshit, it's very readable compared to modern day marxist slop

unfunny "quirky" title

female author

female author endorsement

hugo and nebula award winner

well damn, if you waste your time on this trash despite every conceivable red flag being associated with it, at some point it's gotta be your own fault right

Canceled in the middle as usual

i'm a Anon Babble chud and I loved the Culture books
that series was super popular for a reason

slight

its massively woke and banks was an open commie, read his non scifi books the villains are all conservatives or upper middle class. woke's been around for decades, its as old as marx if not older. the only reason why its readable is because it written as a post scarcity commie utopia not as a call to revolution to make said 'utopia'

If they went all in with the cgi for the Tines, this as a movie could recreate the Avatar 1 experience.

the best parts were among the zone snot on the retarded dog world

that first book is awful. so many pages wasted on dumb no-stakes action slop like chases or pirate raids outrunning falling debris, or the character being tied to a stake by some fucking pointless ringworld-inhabiting savages

ostensibly this is supposed to be a major war in which the culture is involved in. that would have been interesting and indeed you can see glimpses of multiple stories that could have been interesting in that novel, but they're all underdeveloped or left untouched. everyone says the later books are better. but after this disaster i just can't bring myself to try them. i also get the feeling the culture might be sci-fi's equivalent to malazan, i.e bloated, sterile, amateurish and overrated.

It's actually a decent series because the execution is not some mental QUIRKY the way you'd imagine it to be.

films have adapted books since the beginnings of cinema you fucking retard

I was wracking my brain trying to remember who wrote this series and of course it turns out to be Hamilton.
this guy can write some great stuff and some not so great stuff (the series with Capone)

I quite enjoyed the siege of Earth and even more so where the story went ultimately. Nicely wrapped up.

the first was written as a screenplay for a movie, thats why its so bad and completely different from the others. not putting a gun to your head but try player of games, its very different

When the FUCK is the next Enderverse book happening, it's been years. I want to see the conclusion of the second Formic war, dammit.

i still don't get it

name your universe "zones of thought"

come up with cool concept of the laws of physics not applying equally everywhere

make a decent exploration of it, create godlike civilizations with tech that's based on electricity, particles, computing, everything not being restricted by the speed of light we know

create nightmarish antagonists appropriate to a universe like that

ignore the zones until the last 10 pages of the book

make the whole story be centered around some fucking talking dogs a medieval world

what the fuck was he thinking

I agree, but the dogs would be the part that would grab the wider audience’s attention

t. unthinking depths dweller

bro same, underrated series

agreed, a series in the actual zones would have been kino

RIP Vinge

RIP Vinge

aw fuck i didn't know he died. knew he was old as fuck.

i guess i'll give the first book a shot and see which side of the divide i end up on.

It's not even science fiction, you can't convince me it isn't fantasy.

it was fucking cool. the way humanity handled that is one of my favorite depictions of the human spirit in sci-fi ever. there's potential for a sequel series too, and i trust him to be able to crank out at least one more good series in that universe.

While Sirens is good, it's the precursor to Hitchhikers Guide, Rick and Morty and other reddit-tier sci-fi. I'm surprised it hasn't been adapted.

Actually adapt Battlefield Earth correctly.

Stormlight Chronicles

this has a good chance

let's make a bleak and mocking portrayal of humanity as irredeemable malicious idiots who get destroyed by their own stupidity twice

oh except for that one enlightened wandering jew who's the sole remaining beacon of morality and enlightenment

btw isn't it funny how everyone except for you, the reader/viewer, is a fucking retard and is the kind of person this story is mocking

The Stars My Destination could be a kino miniseries, but they'd probably have to leave out the part where he rapes the black chick. Who could play Gully Foyle? It would need to be a talented enough actor to portray his evolution from sullen everyman to mastermind. Seeing the Mars Commando Brigade in action would be kino.

for every successful adaptation there are a dozen duds and failures.

forgot to add "you fucking nigger"

i guess we're due for two or three successful ones by now then

It will all be ruined
You retards just don't get the picture
Modern film and tv show studios are all shit and will just make shit adaptions of literature
So stop it

wasn't someone planning on doing a Black Company show at one point?

yeah man it hit me hard he was on of my favorite authors

there's nothing wrong with the movie

Gully Foyle

Unironically

What'd you think of the movie? I only saw it a few years ago, Harrison Ford as Graff was pretty good casting and I liked the maori dude who played Mazer. We'll never get the other books on film but they'd be fuckin' wild to watch.

they adapted this into a woke tv series with a strong negress protag last year kek

is that the Sanderson sloppa?

he's not brutish enough
young vincent d'nofrio or tom hardy would be perfect