It insists upon itself

It insists upon itself

I only just watched it so I missed out on the threads? What is the Anon Babble consensus?

I thought it was really good btw. Writing takes a nosedive at some points in S2 with a lot of time wasting shit (whole episode of Gemma flashbacks and we still don't really know what she was like as a person) things happening that just straight up make no sense like Irving figuring out Helly's outie is an Eagon based on literally nothing and Devon calling Cobel for help even though they already had Raghabi helping them.

Love the entire first season, love the S2 finale, love Helly even though she's kinda rough looking, love Milchick, love the whole cast really.

I liked the complicated romances in S2.

basically this. Tho I have to say watching 2-3 episodes that are solid 2/10 have somewhat subdued the feelings of euphoria evoked by the s2 finale. s1 > s2, my personal fave being milchick

S1 was kino. S2 was a bloated mess with too much filler.

i want to insist upon helly

Yeah there are a couple of S2 eps that are nothing but a complete waste of time. Why tf would you have an entire episode of Cobel doing nothing in some old factory town?

Honestly I don't even get why Cobel exists in the first place. She's a really weird and kinda pointless character, everything they do with her makes no sense. The only reason she is tolerable is because Patricia Arquette is doing a great job

She is so fucking hot despite having kind of a mid face. I want to have the roughest sex with her

I tried to watch it since everyone's been praising it, but the first episode's style and themes felt so stale and overdone I couldn't be bothered.

S2 had its moments though.

I can't really think of anything that already did what Severance does

She's already taken
By me

Dunno about consencus, but I liked it enough to watch season 3 whenever it comes out.

Season 1 was 9/10 kino, but then the show got too big for its own good, suits got involved, and forced the writers to stretch out whatever ideas they had for season 2 to milk out at least 3 seasons of the show in total. This lead to the show "getting reddit af", and suffering as the result.

Gemma > Helly
Mark and Gemma deserve each other more. You know I'm right.

Irving figuring out Helly's outie is an Eagon based on literally nothing

Not entirely true, he's the most perceptive of the group and it sort of manifested in his dream when her face popped up on the computer screen, which was easy to miss without pausing. At that point it was just a feeling until he did their little catch phrases and she didn't reply the right way.

Devon calling Cobel for help even though they already had Raghabi helping them.

Yeah that was retarded, as was making Cobel the creator of Severence.

On Anon Babble Severence had ups and downs, ultimate consensus was:
Irv is kino
Dylan is fat and incapable of closing his mouth, but kind of hilarious for cucking himself.
Helly a cute
Milkshake based black man except when put in shoehorned scenes alluding to nigger racism irl
Huangposters should not be acknowledged

The threads were doom and gloom until the last episode, and the consensus there was it was great and a perfect end. Except for one literally autistic poster, I remember he couldn't understand Innie Mark's reasoning for doing what he did because he was literally autistic (can't put oneself into another person's mindset), it was a pretty kino thread there bullying that fucking retard.

nah its just a good show, being a contrarian about it just makes you seem dumb

Milkshake based black man except when put in shoehorned scenes alluding to nigger racism irl

The gift of the black Kier paintings was funny as fuck.

Not entirely true, he's the most perceptive of the group and it sort of manifested in his dream when her face popped up on the computer screen, which was easy to miss without pausing. At that point it was just a feeling until he did their little catch phrases and she didn't reply the right way.

It makes sense that he figured out she was her outie, that was really obvious. I'm talking specifically about the Eagon thing.

Milkshake based black man except when put in shoehorned scenes alluding to nigger racism irl

It was funny and it fit right into the show. It was more of a commentary on DEI than on racism really, Lumon tried to be inclusive in a really forced way and it ended up being more racist than if they didn't try at all which is something that happens all the time nowadays.

nah its just a good show, being a contrarian about it just makes you seem dumb

big black mama INSISTS you do the dishes before I start whoopin yo behind!

S2 felt like the writers believing their own hype. The mystery box of the show is nowhere near as interesting as they think it is and dedicating whole episodes to just wrapping another layer onto it just felt tedious.

Too many resets ignoring things that happened before (reminder, the main character did the last few episodes WITH A FUCKING HOLE IN HIS HEAD). Too much splitting up characters so we have their dynamic to keep things interesting. The marching band felt too much that them forcing the quirkiness and makes no sense in universe.

this but huang

Okay I'm realising that missing the Anon Babble threads may have been kind of a blessing

liked the episodes that had a similar tone to the first season at the start and end of season 2
hated the 2deep4u pretentious arthouse faggotry they attempted in the middle

It never got pretentious, just dumb.

It disappeared up its own arse. We didn't need an hour of people mumbling fragmented sentences in dark rooms in order to get a "big reveal" involving a character we don't have any reason to care about, for a plot point that doesn't really matter

S1 was great, though I don't remember much from the outie plotlines.
S2 was good, but I was disappointed the office work was brushed aside. They spent all season refining one file.

It's 4/10 for me. Some episodes and scenes are so bad they're difficult to watch and had to skip fast skip though.
It has some interesting ideas that makes you think as they like to say, but ideas alone aren't script. Every episode is overstretched by 10-20 minutes. The mystery box world building and cliffhanger episode endings are very gimmicky and formulaic. It feels like a dollar store Lost at times, but Lost did everything much much better. Why is everyone so fucking emotional all the time in modern tv shows?

Everything you just described is simply bad writing, not pretentious

Why is everyone so fucking emotional all the time in modern tv shows?

writer's rooms packed with women

The mystery box world building and cliffhanger episode endings are very gimmicky and formulaic.

Agreed, it does rely way too much on mystery boxes. It sort of works but it's too obvious that they are just making shit mysterious just for the sake of having mystery.

Why is everyone so fucking emotional all the time in modern tv shows?

I don't see the problem. That's kind of the point of drama really, exploring human experiences and human emotion. Everybody is fucking emotional all the time in Shakespeare too.

I feel like we're not giving this show enough credit for how good the characters are. It has a really strong cast.

Pretentiousness is bad writing though. No one talks about pretentiousness if the quality of the writing and story reflects the importance/grandeur it's given.

The characters are good... but S2 split them up so there's fuck all interaction. Very few scenes where all the floor were together.

Zoomies don't know about The Prisoner...

Just a reminder, that series ended with 0 answers given.

Sure touché, no point in arguing semantics. The bad stuff just seemed to bland for to register as "pretentious" but that's just my experience, and the weird stuff felt coherent with what the show is.

Maybe it's just because I watch a lot of pretentious arthouse

holy fucking ZASED

I didn't mind that, it let the characters develop different dynamics like when Mark and Helly are alone together or all the Dylan stuff with his wife. The Irv/Burt stuff was kinda whatever tho

S2 was a bloated mess with too much filler

yes and i legit think the main character is a low iq retard

Is this worth watching as a Zoomer? Or was it just good for the time because nobody ever made a TV show like that before and it got Seinfeld effect-ed hard?

I can watch old stuff no problem though. I love 60's Star Trek and I've seen fucking silent films and shit

I think the last ep redeemed some of the show but I found that they've sorta wrote themselves into a very specific hole that devalues the show. I also thought the goat sacrifice and marching band were fucking idiotic.

My primary hope for the show was that it was going to begin to deconstruct the personalities and the world even more. With the Keanu matrix allusions in the kier and the dopplegangers.
The main thought I had was that the show was going to be stupid in certain ways to try to get the audience to understand more complex ideas. Instead the show went for low hanging fruit and the team took the easy way out.

I will still continue to watch it but I thought we had another LOST or the Leftovers tier show on our hands. Just with better comedic timing. Just like it seems like no show is going to have the balls to produce a modern quality version of The Prisoner.

Yes retard

Why do you think Mark is low IQ? He is probably the least intelligent out of the 4 workers but he never really does anything stupid

But why? I know literally nothing about the show btw

The cinematographer's episode where she said 'I'm quitting the show unless you let me direct' was extremely pretentious. It wasn't a completely horrible episode but it also was so far up its own arse that it was tonally different.

season 1 was great. season 2 was a complete disaster

Which one was that? I never watched the stupid behind the scenes stuff

How do they even finish it without making one of his personalities a villain and keep everyone happy?
His outie and innie are in love with two different women, they both want to live a fulfilling life, but share the same body.

It was awful but I feel like it wasn't interesting enough to be pretentious

He already started the process of re-integration

What episode is that?

Chikhai Bardo, the one that focusses on Gemma

Is successful re-integration even a thing?

Mark is already inevitably going to re-integrate, right? It just takes a little while

They had one season worth of copying black mirror before the mask slipped. It can barely contain it's wacky zoolander vibe.

The black lady didn't even remove his bug, she only did something with it to make it act weird.

with a bunch of ethernet cables taped together

I wanted Ben Stiller to play the schizo ceo and owner of the Lumon, but they already ruined it.

yeah had to skip a lot through that episode. fucking boring ahh shit

A paid janny?