/andor/

Apologize Edition

Was having the farm planet raided by rapist ICE agents her idea too?

Of coursh!

if I had the choice to blow out her brains I would do it without hesitation. either way it was ana amazing show and the ending was great, although im still mad klea was just a normal girl and not leia in disguise.

;_;

What's the revelation here? We've known KK just nods her heads and smiles ever since TLJ.

Her crimes are too great for an apology

That is not cruelty, that is justice

Even sad Kleya was perfect

me every morning before going to the wagecage

By all accounts KK was great at being a producer. What she sucks at is being a creative lead.

chuds hate KK because shes a woman when in reality the reason why shows are shit are because of shit showrunners like fagloni

ON PROGRAM, WAGIE

i didn't get anything meaningful done today, but there's always tomorrow

Show has the most gay premise of all time, like manbaby fans of batman getting a divorce in comics tier. Oh my god what if this idealistic good vs evil farmboy to knight story where he defeats the evil wizard actually had people agonizing over tax rates and adultery.
Repulsive.

me when I voted for Trump and now stuck in El Salvador

Why would Bix go back to the wheat fields where she almost got raped and her friend died after a massive gun battle with Imperials as though that was a "safe" place to be? So does this confirm that the farmer did *not* sell them out to the Empire? Is she not staying with the same family that now dead guy accused of betraying them?

Seems like a really dumb place to hide out given the history she has there.

It's a shame a show as excellent as this will probably languish in obscurity as it's too niche for normies and too corporate for connoisseurs.

I'm halfway through the season and it's a fucking SLOG compared to the first one.
Does it get better?

partagaz listening to the Imperial manifesto before shooting himself

Kino

I hate KK because she's been just letting retarded directors fuck around and ruin the franchise for over a decade.

7-10 are the high point. 11 and 12 wrap everything up. The second half is much stronger than the first half.

Man yearns to be free.

Woah Kennedy was actually against brothels and killing cops but she agreed to it anyway?
I guess The Last Jedi was good after all.

Tons of shit in this show don't make sense. But fantards will defend anything these days.

climax of the show is 5 retarded ISB Swat guys moving in slow motion

no backup because...

half the last episode is a boring argument over whether Luthen's intel is reliable

storyline doesn't even properly conclude

just filling time in the last episode

albus severus andor "twist"

Well that was disappointing. I had a bad feeling it was just going to be a tedious lead in to Rogue One.

Only kino bit in the last 2 episodes. It's a shame we'll probably never get the post Empire Dedra arc.

Why didn't Dedra just stun Luthen, and instead stood there, listening to his bullshit? Why did she let him turn away from her, knowing he had a knife? Is she fucking stupid? She acted dumber than characters in cartoons.

Episode 7-9 is the only reason to watch this dog shit season

I was JOKING when I said the Rebels were going to blow up a hospital, Tony!!

On paper, Kleya is mid

But I am in deep love with her. I love her. I fucking do.

Why?

Because you are an incel.

she was too drunk of victory

Of course the guy didn't sell them out, that was communicated if you pay attention.
You're right about the other stuff. I guess it would go, she went back for the droid and decided to stay. They did show her getting over her trauma by clapping Dr Showtunes.
Probably dug up Brasso and turned him into her door lintel.

Stockholm Syndrome

Dedra isn't as smart as she thinks she is.

At that point, she was obsessed with catching him to the point where she went behind the back of her superiors. She wanted to rub it in his face and underestimated his resolve. She's a microcosm of the empire's flaws.

The droid would be scrapped if that guy was actually a traitor because he would've told the imperials.

On paper, Kleya is mid

The same reason we ALL love her
we have mommy issues

AHHHH SYRIL HELPPP ME

I hate this show so much

Mon Mothma has to pimp out her daughter to get funding from a mobster

in the OT Leia said "the harder you squeeze, the more systems slip through your fingers"

That's a better explanation. She didn't say "You'd better watch out or my dad is gonna have me marry Jabba's son"

character doped up on ego and pride doesn't act perfectly rationally

The real play is surrounding the place and waiting for him to go out to nab him, but she wanted to gloat and play with her food.

The real real play is wait for him to go out, bug his radio and find out where the Rebel homebase is.

You want a conventionally attractive seemingly submissive woman who is secretly assertive and dominant who can take care of everything for you. It's a very common basicbitch feeling for contemporary western men with weak fathers who were overly socialized by mothers, media, and the school system.

Because she’s cute

Is she fucking stupid?

Yes

that was communicated if you pay attention.

It was intentionally ambiguous.

Darth Vader wouldn't allow this.

Damn, don't be so mean to me.

plot twist... Andors child... IS A GIRL

No it wasn't

In a world destroyed by jews, truth is seen as rude.

Andor looks like a CW show fuck Mouse Wars and George Lucas for prostituting this franchise only the EU is Canon Star Wars died in 2014

It's not mean, it's just facts. You'll have to settle for a girl who is pretty but can't decide what she wants to eat, just like everyone else.

Vader should have been in this show because it would MAKE SENSE
Leia says "Lord Vader, I smelled your foul stench when I came on board".
So clearly she knew who Vader was and he had a reputation. The idea of him being some secret villain behind the scenes is nonsense. That's the Emperor.

It would be a big risk to go back and find out, given how they left the planet.

Nuh uh

EUnuchs are cuckolds.

I mean, this show is not canon. This is just fanfic inspired by. It literally says so in the credits, lmao. So of course it's retarded. I wouldn't take it serious at all. This is pure midwit slop for retards.

Why is Bail so smug?

Don't worry the history of Leia and Vader is covered in Obi-Wan Kenobi on Disney+.

Yes, yes, we all love Kleya, however

Why does she look like Leia and is named kLeia?

WHERE ARE THEY?

Tell that to Reddit, who took it as a commentary on how American farmers betray their illegal farmworkers so they don't have to pay them after harvest.

skipped ahead to the kafrene part
its kino

why does she look like a ghoul

Anon, white people look different. Don't be racist.

Enjoy your Homosexuality in Mouse Wars EU was for real Heterosexual Men

P O E T R Y
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IT RHYMES

We can't have the scary mask man in our serious show for adults

lmao

I don't go on reddit so I don't see as many incorrect reads on television shows as you.

Tarkin was the stinky boy Leia smelled, anon.

Tell that to Reddit

Bleddit thinks the rebellion are people fighting for trans rights and the empire is Trump.

trump BAD

So, who's going to play Andor's Jedi granddaughter in Episode X?

Can you go back to Anon Babble?
I like my women strong. I need a tiger mom not some tiktok dancer

tivik only confirms what I just watched E10-12
I'm going to bed now

Fuck you're, right. So this confirms that Tarken should be in it too. She said to Vader "only you can be so bold". My point still stands.

When are episodes 13, 14, 15 out in theaters? I heard they cast that bunny looking bitch.

How did Syril go from the worst part of season 1 to being the only good part of season 2?

No fucking way
Whities are like chinks. You just have bigger eyes

Cassian Andor's daughter

He was the best part of season one though.

You don't want a tiger mom if you're this triggered over being called a bitch

How did Syril go from the worst part of season 1

Everyone in Andor is familiar with Parkin' Tarkin

AND THE FATHER IS...

It's a shame Cassian's kid is too young to grow up to become the legendary Manny Bothans.

Dedra's end is the end for every Trump supporting "pick me" girl who supports fucking fascism.

Watch Handmaid's Tale.

Yes.

Given that Galen Erso sends out his pilot with info on the Death Star completely independently of what happened on Coruscant with Luthen and Lonni etc., wasn't everything that happened there in the last 3 episodes completely irrelevant?

Honestly expected she's gonna floor herself like that random dude from season 1

Syril - or rather the concept of "well meaning guy who becomes imperial to advance the common good" was literally the only interesting component of the Andor series. In part because of the true value of his motives, and in part because it validates all the sw fans who liked playing with stormtrooper toys more than weirdo homeless looking rebels.

WTF Luthen wasn't a Jedi after all? How could this be!

That show stopped being good after the first season.

You want a conventionally attractive seemingly submissive woman

I'm not the one afraid of Kleya

Everyone in Andor is familiar with Parkin' Tarkin

But he should be in the show though. Same with Vader. Even if it's just one scene. It's not fanservice if it makes sense. It makes less sense not having them.

the rebellion is a flat circle

Bruh. They about to suspend habeas corpus. It is literally everyone's end.

Sad

You heard me. He was like an out of place cartoon character in season 1. All the other characters were more grounded and he stuck out like a sore thumb. Somehow they managed to turn that around in season 2 and I'm not sure if that's because he actually got better or all the other characters got much weaker.

So where does Star Wars go from here?

This is literally the only time I've ever been invested in Star Wars. I have a deep aversion to Filoni slop especially. It's back to the gulag with this franchise, for me.

begins stress eating and gains 100 pounds in a few days

Low t.

a real feat of brilliance and kino would be if Tony Gilroy wrote a story about the Bothans stealing the plans for the second death star. Also still on topic with the ending is Mothma's husband with that other dudes wife or is that his relative/sister?

millions of humans existed and procreated before memeus cumpus

omfg how will humaniters survival!!!!

This is literally the only time I've ever been invested in Star Wars.

Andor isn't even that good. OT is great SW. PT is ok SW.

They need to kill Dave Filoni and give Gilroy and blank check to retcon/remake the sequels.

It's Filonislop all the way down.
We might get lucky again, but it's very unlikely.

pour one out lads

Meds

They need to kill Dave Filoni and give Gilroy and blank check to retcon/remake the sequels.

Filoni had nothing to do with the sequels. And Rogue One and Andor were shitty BBC prestige dramas with some action.

Gilroy hates aliens too much to write a story about them unless KK gave him permission to make Bothans into humans.

More Disney+ slop that will clog the Disney+ Star Wars catalog. Will be forgotten in a month. Just like Blandor. No one will remember it existed in a month, other than one odd thread here and there, with something like "DUH THIS WAS KEEENOOOOAH" or "this was so shit." Such is the fate of all Disney Star Wars. It's content, not art.

OT is great SW

Nostalgia goggles.

Anon, you're childless and likely a virgin. Don't pretend to care about humanity.

The rey trilogy is unironically better than Andor, and Kylo alone is better than any Andor character

Nope. It's Poe Dameron.
Written by Dave Filoni.

Looni

Shot by Luthen as the hero that kicked things off

Heert

Killed as a human shield

Dedra

Imprisoned for all time

Partagaz

Sudoku

Lagret

Lives

Ever since after the original trilogy the most interesting things in SW were happening in videogames and even those aren't looking so hot right now. It's pretty much over.

Im glad Alderaan got blown up and Bail did little to nothing during the rebellion. they portrayed him as such a hypocrite in this series its insane, plus his own people got infiltrated by the ISB.

The Alliance probably would not have looked into it if they didn't have the intel from Luthen. It didn't seem like they interested in what the contact on Kafrene had to say.

if you like Andor you like the Sequels there was so many references to those shitty movies in the show

the only time i've been invested in star wars is when it wasn't star wars

Interesting.

Gilroy hates aliens too much

This was a missed opportunity. Too many humans in Andor. The Ghorman shit should have been on a Mon Calamari colony and they joined the rebellion after the massacre.

This, but unironically.
We need Generation Kill in Star Wars ASAP.

James Mangold's movie has a minuscule chance of being good because Beau Willimon is attached as a writer

Nostalgia goggles.

Not really faggot. ANH and ESB are kino of the highest order, ROTJ is a drop, but ends strong.

damn that shit was fucking great
thank you

Oh boy surely the lack of Saw in these episodes means he'll by awesome in Rogue One!

now you fucked up! now you fucked up! now you fucked up!

I have kids and I am ahead of the curve on the wests sliding back into agrarianism, like the usa was in the 1700s/1800s. I don't give a shit about your larpy morals, humans all over the world have thrived under feudal regimes. The abolition of feudalism is the result of a few spoiled nobles overthrowing their overseer and competitor, not the broad advancement of the common good. Rich nobles merely replaced peasant farms with wage slavery.

Is that still being made after his Indiana Jones film?

Gilroy can't make a mainline Star Wars movie. He legit doesn't understand Star Wars enough. I'd let him remake the first half of Rogue One and maybe Solo, but not the sequels themselves.

Yeah. I was honestly shocked how many aliens showed up in these final episodes.

webm please

He was just doing his job. If his junior officers just followed their orders, he would have a comfy apartment on the death star, drinking space brandy with Sheev and Tarkin after the 4th moon of Yavin was blown to dust.

I have kids

oh boy surely this kid thats friends with cassian will be in Rogue One!

Andor is the best Star Wars has ever been. Not the original trilogy. Not the prequels. It's this.

lucas and his wife hallucinating and making shit up as they go

paper thin worldbuilding

muh good vs. bad dichotomy

It was a glorified toy commerical.

Mandalorian and Grogu is the only Star Wars movie that has been announced that will be released. None of the others will even make it out of pre-production.

You kids need to be stoned to death. Bunch of zoomers fellating fad of the month streaming slop, and shitting on actual legendary cinema. Insane.

I'll watch Rogue One tomorrow
See you again in another show, retards
It was good to share thoughts with you

They're easy to make, if you can make instant pancakes you can make a kid

Gilroy is done with star wars and has already stated he wants to do something else. The only reason he was able to pull this together is because his son is a massive star wars geek. This was lightning in a bottle.

It will probably get scrapped after the mandalorian movie flops but it's supposed to be still alive

good final batch, but i'll have to say that the way Dedra found out about Luthen was kind of an asspull

Embarrassing. You should walk out of the window for genuinely believing this.

That's a contrivance within Andor itself and even then they're clearly interested in Saw's activities enough to try talking to him despite him constantly calling them pussies.

she just needs a "Hang in there" cat poster to brighten up her cell

None of the others will even make it out of pre-production.

This, with how the world is turning out and Hollywood losing Money like a stuck pig I doubt Disney will be able to keep the franchise

ANH

technical marvel and revolutionary for its time. but we don't live in that time, we live in this time. it's good, but it's not great.

ESB

actual kino. I'll give you that. Takes the premise of the first and expands upon it in an interesting movie

ROTJ

lucas huffing his own farts. this would continue on into the prequels.

Andor is the best Star Wars has ever been.

I legit feel sorry for you.

>lucas and his wife hallucinating and making shit up as they go

Still better than Andor.

>paper thin worldbuilding

By design. It wasn't some faggy BBC prestige drama where you have to see the inner workings of the bad thing. It was a fantasy movie with lightsabers.

>muh good vs. bad dichotomy

So the Empire isn't bad in Andor?

It was a glorified toy commerical.

Andor is a sleeping pill.

Why exactly are Bail and the Black woman/white guy senators even in charge of the Rebellion?
As opposed to the various people who know significantly more about how to actually fight a rebellion with significantly more experience?

Raddus is clearly some kind of war time commander with a capital ship, but what the fuck do those others bring to the table exactly?

He legit doesn't understand Star Wars enough

Good

I wonder if she'll join the First Order because despite all the Empire's done to her, it's all she knows

If you already dislike Star Wars, Andor is extremely unexceptional in the broader pantheon of sci-fi dramas aside from bloated Disney production value.

He legit doesn't understand Star Wars enough

No one does, apparently.

Notice how you guys only post screenshots from the one great movie of the bunch

Gilroy is the modern Kasden. Empire and Andor stand upon a pile of glup shittos.

Every rebellion and revolution is led by party hacks and wealthy elites. You think Thomas Jefferson, John Adams or Ben Franklin ever marched on the field of battle?

Empire and Andor

You're retarded. Andor is nowhere near ESB and ANH.

no backup because...

fucked by their own lie about kleya

seething at this literally irrelevant detail

stop being a faggot

DEDRA

IN THE CAN

PARTAGAZ

ACKed

JUNG

6 FEET UNDER

HEERT

BTFO

LEGRET

GOAT

I can't wait for everyone to forget this shit existed exactly in a month (or even less). Can't wait to see the "I am forgotten" threads on the catalog.

The rebellion is all a big psy op for the dems to overthrow trump and retake the senate/presidency
That sounds like a shitpost but its true, that's why in all the canon material the new republic rapidly deteriorates. The rebellion became co-opted by a bunch of disgruntled permanent politicians who had overseen the rise of the empire and just wanted their status and gimmes back.
If they had wanted a clean slate new order then those people would be irrelevant. Instead it was pitched as a restitution of prior norms, so those people were considered elites.

Yes, it's why Andor was able to be fresh. It would get stale quickly if all Star Wars was like this.

Fellow Anons, friends, autists, allies, adversaries. I stand before you this morning with a heavy heart. I’ve spent my life on this board. I came here as a child. And as I look around now, I realize I have almost no memories that pre-date my arrival and few bonds of affection that cleave so tightly. Through these many years, I believe I have served my constituents honorably and upheld our code of conduct. This board is a cauldron of opinions and we’ve certainly all had our patience and tempers tested in pursuit of our ideals. Disagree as we might, I am hopeful that those of you who know me will vouch for my credibility in the days to come. I stand this morning with a difficult message. I believe we are in crisis. The distance between what is said and what is known to be true has become an abyss. Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective canon is perhaps the most dangerous. The death of truth is the ultimate victory of evil. When truth leaves us, when we let it slip away, when it is ripped from our hands, we become vulnerable to the appetite of whatever monster screams the loudest. This board's hold on the truth was finally lost on the latest episode release. What took place last season… what happened last season on Ahsoka was unprovoked retcons! Yes! Retcons! And that truth has been exiled from this board! And the monster screaming the loudest? The monster we’ve helped create? The monster who will come for us all soon enough is Dave Filoni!

characters are forgotten in real life just like how they are forgotten in star wars and never remembered for their sacrifices

kino

ending it on a fucking fertility drug commercial shot

Kleya is Cassian's sister, prove me wrong

they're played by different actresses

Doesn't mean shit, they're also different ages because Luthen could have been in the planet a few years after Cassian was taken away. They kept pretty vague where Luthen was and when it was. Gilroy is smart enough to know people would find the situation similar and draw comparisons, he wouldn't have left it there just as a red herring.

No? All of Lucas' Star Wars is actually great. Blandor is not even a fraction as creative and imaginative as anything Lucas had made.

certified slop consumer.

someone tries to make your retarded action figure franchise more than just dribble for children and you throw a tantrum kek

It's emblematic of the show as a whole.

they either lean into this style of content or fade in cultural irrelevance. the star wars fan base is old as fuck now, zoomers and younger dont give a shit and their infantile simplistic tv shows get zero traction.

this content is far cheaper than whatever the fuck theyve been doing, they just need someone who isnt a total retard to write and direct it.

fallen order wasnt shit in my mouth levels of bad after the disaster of the star wars battlefront p2w and simplistic ass gameplay. it had some decent lore and worldbuilding. its just the ubisoft game was full of corner cutting and a painful protag

GOAT LAGRET
even gave the major his dignified an hero

Kek
I know this would happen.
Filoni really thinks he's a heir to the George's empire

Been a key theme since season 1 that the rich fucks running things don't truly understand what it takes to run things. And seems like it continues once the NR gets established because for those people their own issue with the Empire was that it was meaner than the republic, and they want their nice lazy republic that doesn't do anything. It's why they don't like Luthen who's a guy who's actually been there and understands you can't stop the empire with good vibes.

If you think SW is elevated by Luke getting a cancer diagnosis because of radiation from his lightsaber you simply don't understand the core appeal of SW

But Cassian's last name isn't Dameron
ENTER
KROLE DAMERON

How are you not ashamed of posting literal reddit screencaps? Are you lost, nigger?

YOU NIGGAS LIED TO ME, THERE WAS NO SNOKE SYRIL

You must not watch a lot of sci-fi

certified slop consumer.

?

liking Disneywars shit

accusing me of liking slop

calling OT slop

kys retard.

someone tries to make your retarded action figure franchise more than just dribble for children and you throw a tantrum kek

Learn your history, faggot. The movie was made and nobody thought toys for it would sell. The gave the toy rights to Lucas for nothing and that Christmas Kenner shipped SW empty boxes with coupons to be redeemed later. You are a faggot zoomer living in a fantasy land.
And based on your logic Andor was only made to sell shitty Disney+ subscriptions.

This is a subliminal tradwife psyop shot. Bravo, Tony!

Tony Gilroy drops Santiago Calatrava architecture into the Coruscant landscape even though it's completely at odds with the aesthetic of the planet. Lucas incorporated Calatrava-inspired architecture into the design of Utapau, where it reflects the unique qualities of the world.

What Gilroy does here doesn't even require any vision. He's just photographing the work of one of the most well-known living architects and jarringly inserting it into an environment others before him had to actually design.

He's not only unable to conceptualize environments that rise anywhere close to the standard set by Lucas, he actively degrades the few environments he inherits, because he doesn't understand what goes into it.

It feels like the prequel Coruscant exists as one of those distant backgrounds in a video game that you can never travel to.

How are you not ashamed of posting literal reddit screencaps? Are you lost, nigger?

Are you new here or are you not aware why this website was down last month?

Dedra in prison

so what was all that bs about Andy Serkis coming back as Kino???

you're malding all over this thread because everyone with a brain recognizes that star wars has only had 1 or 2 movies on the level of andor.

why is he so smug

This is true even for the locations that are set directly in the midst of the cityscape. Even given the opportunity for window views, Gilroy's tendency is to fog or obscure the alien cityscape where Lucas always opts for expansive fantasy vistas.That Gilroy has to set these scenes on Coruscant seems like an inconvenience to him that he tries to find ways to work around. I don't know what else people would expect. What do you think it means when he says he never liked Star Wars? You think he hadn't seen it? It isn't his thing.

They probably filmed a version where she got dropped off and Kino shows up to take her in but cut it because it felt weird.

they either lean into this style of content or fade in cultural irrelevance.

You're a fucking retard. I hope we never see anything like Andor or Rogue One ever again. It's bland, lifeless shit and way too dark. Star Wars has lines like "Will someone get this walking carpet out of my way" and Han kissing Leia on the Falcon, and Luke trying to talk Vader into being good again.

once again

stop being a faggot go onions clap at darth maul or some shit

They are actually stepping away from TV shows now, all they have lined up is Ahsoka Season 2 and the Darth Maul cartoon.
They're heading back into theaters with annual movies lined up. It's for the best really, whether it succeeds or fails it'll be a better situation for Star Wars than this current stagnation

Also the end of the penultimate episode, they see Kleya at the hospital and yell stop and then it's just over. Totally unexplained how she got away

the legendary Manny Bothans.

Why do the hallways of the Senate Building in Andor suddenly look like the interiors on Kamino? At most you'd expect the intrusion of Imperial motifs. The answer is that Gilroy is drawing on the aesthetic of the new exterior architecture, but the design language is confused.

You can see the palette of the Senate chamber itself seems to have been adjusted to match. It has a strangely bright, aquatic feel to it now. I'm not sure why the transition to Empire transformed the capitol into King Triton's court.

Well, at least we know the Empire respects gender.

you're malding all over this thread because everyone with a brain recognizes that star wars has only had 1 or 2 movies

Yes, 2 great movies.

on the level of andor.

Andor is garbage and will be forgotten in a month.

this is literally the most imaginative show since disney bought star wars. andor understood how important establishing shots and world building was to star wars and respected it. every single other star wars show just glazes over the universe lore and exposition of the universe and creates a bland ass uniform world.

It's the third post-credits scene after Luthen's force ghost on Dagobah and the Kleya/Leia reveal.

One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad." The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write.

Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this.

And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a *cinematic* basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way.

So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.

I don't know why people focus on the cartoon man as the root of all evil when Disney Wars has been consistently fucking shit aside from Mando S1 and Andor S1 (fuck you, the Ghorman Massacre alone doesn't make up for this season being a fucking mess). Disney as a whole is the problem.

I would like them to be able to handle the concepts they introduce. I would like the world to feel like something lived in. I would like shit that actually provokes thought. Is it too much to ask for that in addition to action?

Very good show. Good writing, good set design, good world building, good acting, good cgi. Nothing to complain about. I'm very satisfied.

This is true, I've shown my kids some SW and it doesn't really hook them. They liked watching the ROTJ throne fight scene but I am pretty sure that's because I've given them daddy issues and they want to kill me.

Because she's competent and intelligent, definition of "ride or die," and that's worth more than physical attractiveness

fucking now what man
christ

Once is a striking, memorable, inspiring design, that is cherished and remembered 26 years later, and loved by generations of people. The other one is generic Disney+ slop under the guise of "prestige drama" that will be forgotten in a month.

But the question is will the Empire respect if you're trans and put you in your desired prison?
Hey, anything to be on program with dedra

The US founding fathers hated one another and were mostly just rich land owners. Hamilton was a crazy fuck who died because he challenged one of his rivals to a duel after the rival shitposted in a newspaper. The leaders of the Soviet Union all killed one another to the point where only a senile Bhreznev was left standing. Deng and Xi's father were excommunicated and tortured multiple times for multi-year periods by Mao/the CCP. It was a fairly accurate portrayal of rebel movements/leaders. Factionalism and paranoia are always elements of rebel movements.

I would like the world to feel like something lived in.

Tattooine did that better than anything in Andor.

And Andor wouldn't have gone with Jyn to Scarif if Luthen haven't had died for that info

Pottery status?

why did partagaz shoot himself

Because he is a mockery of incels.

Are you kidding? Andor is mid as fuck and rides entirely on the Star Wars brand (and standing out from the failure thereof). Go watch The Expanse or something and you'll realize Andor is nothing special besides the budget.

lol
lmao even
oh, yeah
the brick world
the, ughm, plains world
the rocks world
the, ughm, space french
Wow, very cool.

There are fates worse than death.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe they don't want the speech to be too inspirational

Watch rogue one

Re-install battlefront 2

coom to slave leia

Take your pick.

I wish Gilroy had a scene for Kino either dead or on Yavin because now i have to worry that the retards at lucasfilm are gonna glup shitto him or make him Snoke

while good, i can't shake away the feeling that unfortunately the show still falls to the trappings of being a prequel and thus is unable to provide a cathartic climax to its own story

Yeah that shits fake and gay, there's a reason the novels about Luke's wife dying flopped. No one cares about that shit. Cinderella isn't advanced by her getting a divorce because she got bored and cheated.
If the kids show/basic moral story isn't "adult" and nuanced enough for you then grow up, go watch something else or make something else. Don't try to put your cynicism and worldly fatigue onto an idealistic childlike classic.

Protest against whatever the empire would do to him for hosting a nest of spies and failures.

Well...there's Skeleton Crew

Funny how she didn't say jack shit when the Jedi were genocided 20 years earlier...

ANH

7/10

ESB

8/10

ROTJ

7/10

TPM

3/10

AOTC

2/10

ROTS

7/10

consistently mediocre. and that's being generous. star wars has subsisted on the autism of millions of retarded children. you all deserve filonislop and abrams movies for the rest of your natural lives.

Examining the establishing shots of Chandrila and Ghorman, we see they're Earth-like worlds but we have little indication of the culture of the society. Now compare to the establishing shots of Theed and Otoh Gunga. They're otherworldly and we instantly grasp the culture.

Even when we get to ground-level on the worlds in Andor it's hard to gain real insight into their cultures. We learn all about Chandrilan arranged marriage customs, and the people on Ghorman sound French and applaud weird, but can we deeply feel the unique soul of the peoples?

I'm sure the production designers made an effort to distinguish Chandrila from Ghorman architecturally, but right at this moment I cannot visualize the differences for the life of me. I don't think Ghorman strongly *feels* like anything apart from Chandrila.

It doesn't matter how high-quality the sets look if there isn't a keen aesthetic and anthropological vision like Lucas's to back them up. They look impressive in the moment but they easily fall out of memory. It's not something you can buy. Lucas was inimitably good at this.

The visual aesthetics of Naboo doesn't just shout wealth. It communicates artistic and intellectual refinement, and harmony with the natural world. It is perfectly reflective of Padme's inner qualities.

Some ignorant people say Naboo is "just Italy", since it was filmed in Italy. It's clearly not. If this was Andor, Naboo people would speak some gibberish Italian, wear some Italian clothes and eat Pizza. Because that's what space-France Ghorman in Andor was like: speak gibberish French, wear French beanies and trench coats, eat croissants and drink coffee in the street-cafes, and they make fashion clothes. And they are also literally French resistance during WW2, in case you didn't get!

Bullshit

Luthen is never even mentioned in Rogue One, is he? I can't recall even an indirect reference.

he was getting executed anyway and that was his own little act of "rebellion"

Filoni really thinks he's a heir to the George's empire

Can you really blame him after you faggots spent years calling him Lucas's heir apparent?

You want some BBC prestige drama. That's not Star Wars. It's a swashbuckling adventure story mixed with fantasy and scifi elements. You are honestly a complete autismo.

They really expect me to watch this crap? No thanks.

ya bro just spend 60 billion dollars on a tv show to create a more expansive vision like lucas

you can interpret this so many ways, maybe hes presenting coruscant under imperials as something that isnt expansive as a artistic decision.

the dude has limited resources and pulled it of exceptionally well

gungan city is just a bunch of walkways and transparent glass globes

Where do these people go for some privacy?

It shows how far gone your mind is that you think good worldbuilding and developing ideas is antithetical to idealism.

>ANH

9/10

>ESB

9.5/10

>ROTJ

8/10

These are the true ratings. PT is whatever.

Andor

5/10

What was the point of this character?

Wilmon is one of many characters who is ill-defined even on the basic level of an archetype. I guess he's The Kid. But why was he huffing gas fumes with Saw Gerrera? I guess that was a casualty of the truncated seasons. I bet that would have been a fun arc. It's funny how he shows up on Yavin later and they're like, "Ah yeah, the gang's back together again!" I can barely remember the relationship Bix and Cassian have to this kid. I felt more when Tarpals and Jar Jar reunited in The Clone Wars. Now there's a history.

you want to clap and cheer glup shittos to satiate your chronic arrested development.

Nigga, this entire show cost more than 3 prequel movies.
They don't. Gungans jerk together.

i legit forgot he was even a character in s1, i just thought he was simply a new guy for s2

He is George's heir. It's just that George was always a hack and now we've got Disney poisoning the well on top of that.

It shows how far gone your mind is that you think good worldbuilding and developing ideas is antithetical to idealism.

You're an autist who wants everything explained to you under the guise of "world building".

starslop

grow up

literally allergic to good writing LMAOOO

ok dude now youre just self masturbating with your understanding of aesthetic terminology and its language. its a tv show, its by nature far more constrained. every other star wars show felt like a fucking low budget youtube fanfic with zero vision.

Andor doesn't have good worldbuilding, its an episode of Shameless but in the SW universe. It doesn't contribute to or advance any of the core qualities of SW.
Andor is a glorified wookiepedia article for middle aged nerds or humorless incels.

How do they explain away that we never see him in Rogue One? He doesn't die at the end of Andor.

It must be tough to have never seen anything other than children's cartoons your entire life.

you want to clap and cheer glup shittos to satiate your chronic arrested development.

No. I want another Star Wars adventure that's true to the OT. You want something that isn't Star Wars. Andor will be forgotten. The OT won't.

Bail did little to nothing during the rebellion

Aside from rescuing Yoda and Obi-Wan

Him and Vel are potential spin-off fodder.

andor is proof that a star wars show doesn't need lightsabers, jedis, and darth vader cameos to be good

take note, filoni

me too lol.
apparently Dedra killed his father but I can't remember if his father was a character either.
this show is good but its not indeliable genius or anything.

explain what? there's nothing to explain in the original trilogy. it's literally nothing. there's hardly any story. the characters are one note. the dialogue is juvenile.

literally allergic to good writing LMAOOO

Oh yeah, all that good writing. Most Andor fans agree that the first half of this season was shit. Did you love that wedding scene for 3 eps? Isn't it great writing that Mon Mothma didn't mention the genocide of the Jedi in her speech about...genocide? Andor himself was a bland character who was the worse one in his own show.
ESB and ANH had better writing.

Andor will be remembered less than Rogue One, which is barely remembered to begin with. It has less cultural currency than Mandalorian and no one even remembers that now.

No I just don't see a kids show and then expect an adult version of it. You're like a brony jerking off to MLP because you can't draw the distinction between kids cartoons and adult pornography, but for star wars.
There's like a million stories fictional and non fictional covering adult themes of war, love, responsibility, etc. Why the fuck you need it to be the light sword beep boop robots story with le pew pews on le zoom zooms. That's on you.

That ISB raid scene had such Bourne Identity vibes, bravo Gilroy

he has legit 1 good scene and that's when he is huffing petrol with Saw Gerrera, he was otherwise a total charisma void

If they rereleased a better edited/cut version of Rogue 1 right now, I bet it'd make some money

i liked the kleya giving MGS vibes sneaking into the hospital

best place to start the show

literally every other sci-fi series I know mogs the shit out of star wars. i don't get why you guys like it at all.

A lot of "characters" on this show are complete non-characters, not even defined by an archetype. They are just blanks who exist as plot devices occasionally. Bix is one of them. Complete non-character, vacuum, with zero personality. Completely worthless, yet took shit ton of screen time. OOooooh, she got pregnant off-screen, cool (not). She was like Padme in Ep 3: sad and pregnant, useless plot device.

The first episode of this last arc was great and it was all downhill for the next two. Mid ending to a mid season. Glad they didn't drag the show out for more seasons.

They should have killed cyril in ep 1 so I could stop watching right away

name these shows, every single "good" sci-fi show people rave about is low budget 2000s scy-fy tier slop that nerds love to jerk off over

Most of the characters in this show who speak with Cassian are just half-characters (just a step above being outright non-characters) who exist to service to Cassian's non-arc, where he just waffles around all season, ending up as the cold, hard rebel operative he already was.

Jyn, did I ever tell you about Luthen Rael? He was my mentor. The most brutal, cutthroat scheming bastard of a spymaster in the galaxy. He basically founded the rebellion under the shadows. He would steal millions of credits from the empire, whack bankers, and arrange child marriages. All for the good of the rebellion. Oh and he was a bad friend

was cyrodiils character meant to be a lesson to incels?

Mandalorian ... no one even remembers that now

oh well at least there are some positives.

No, because Cyril actually got laid.

explain what?

You said there's no "world building" in the OT. To you Empire = bad and doing bad things isn't enough. You need to seem them walking around in halls and giving long speeches in board room meetings.

there's hardly any story.

Ok....

Luke wants to leave farm and join rebellion

Uncle won't let him, needs him to farm

Empire kills Uncle and Aunt

Luke goes to fight Empire

but first must get off planet with space wizard

hook up with space smuggler to get ride

go to planet that has been destroyed by Empire's weapon

Need I continue?

characters are one note

Ok...

Luke goes from wide eyes boyish kid to serious Jedi knight

Han goes from only cares about himself scoundrel to developing true friendships and true love

Leia goes from tough warrior to being vulnerable and telling Han she loves him

Vader redeems himself

And

the dialogue is juvenile.

Luthen's speech about why he fights the Empire sounds like it was written by AI.

He was the one organizing the Yavin group. You know, the side of the Rebellion that actually has a fleet?

andor is a father

Nice kick in the balls Gilroy

Well, the song says Everybody wants to rule the World.

yes. fuck bitches. focus on your work.

His dad was the guy who hid Bix's radio in his junkyard. When Dedra burned the Ferrix cell the dad got arrested and tortured to death.
Wilmon then built a bomb, which he threw into the Empire speeder during the riot, he got grabbed by Brasso and hustled to the escape ship seemingly by chance.
He doesn't have a larger point beyond being another viewpoint of how someone gets radicalised (the state killed my dad so now I'm a revenge terrorist) then turned into a fighter (Saw inspires him to live to die for the cause instead of apathetically going through the motions) and find that there is a life to be had while doing it (starting a relationship, caring about Andor and Bix).

It's just the story of a 'normal' rebel, woven along with the rest.
They give him the leg wound (which he's still limping on a year later) so he can sit out danger and survive the show. Fucker was on admin duties on the flight deck during the Battle of Yavin while still being torn up about Cassian dying.

What he does next is cameo in some Filonislop, the actor loves Star Wars.

literally every other sci-fi series I know mogs the shit out of star wars.

Please give me a few of these. I love sci fi shows, but Star Wars isn't really scifi as I've said numerous times. It's fantasy swashbuckling laced with scifi elements.

The "they" that were waiting for him was Krenic. What he did was cover Krenics ass.

silent MVP of the show

Why did Gilroy make me hate the entire rebellion leadership except for Mon?

it's good, but it's not great.

zoom zoom

Leia was Andor's sister? Fucking dumb.

I think it's a problem created by Gilroy's "slow, slow, fast" pacing. Bix would have been fine if we hadn't spent so long staring at her moping around being le sad.
you really need beefier psychological drama if you're going to make a characters feelings the main focus. at least Mothma worked.

I liked how the last time we saw Andor genuinely happy was when he was fucking around with Melshi and K2 in his bungalow.

Because MUH SHADES OF GRAY. It's fucking stupid. In the OT we see that the rebellion didn't always agree on things, but they are just trash people after watching this show.

Are we the bad guys?

oh yeah, he has a bitch on the rape planet with his kid

Was this supposed to be hopeful and/or (heh) inspiring? Nigga forgot all about that bitch Bix and got with the bunny bitch.

Because rebellions are built on hope, not trust and accountability.

meh, its basically the Braveheart / The Departed twist.

Could a kind anon post webm's of Mothma getting turnt at the end of episode 3?

nice ass

Because they don't know what the fuck is going on

she ends up working on the shit they make the prisons put together for the second death star

KINO

technical marvel and revolutionary for its time. but we don't live in that time,

The effects of ANH look better than any of the cgi garbage of today retard. When you watched ANH for the first time everyone knew the names of every character. I re-watched Rogue One a month ago and only remember Cassian (but only because of the show) and Krennic and Saw. The blind guy? The bunny girl? The robot? I totally forgot them.

Is this the first on screen alien with a tail?

The only good rebels are on the ground. These dipshits are the ones that end up running the New Republic.

lucas huffing his own farts

just say self-indulgent, you five-year-old cunt

Jabba has a tail

Jabba IS a tail [attached to a mouth]

When Cassian gives that respectful nod to the Force Healer. Man.

What was the point of Andor dreaming about his sister again if that plotline was still never resolved?

Did the Emperor foresee this?

it was a woman actually

so was cassian force sensitive?
or was that force lady just foreseeing what happens in rogue one

she will be freed in a few years by the rebels

the happy ending best girl deserved

You laugh but that was the exact moment the weight of what he was about to do hit me.

because his rape game is so strong

Because he wants you to like his OCs more

The effects of ANH look better than any of the cgi garbage of today retard.

in many cases only after the digital remaster. and honestly you need to watch the despecialized editions to remove all the unnecessary shit George adds.

Because lots of plot lines in real life are never resolved.

I think it was kind of stupid how the entire sequence of events from the first episode of season 1 was initiated because he was traveling around seedy places to inquire about his sister, but then we never see him looking for her ever again in the entire series. Weird thing to just drop like that.

Having unresolved stuff like that is, like, so real

Because lots of plot lines in real life are never resolved.

This isn't real life, it's a show.

The Rebel Alliance already had Death Star plans. They could build their own if they had the resources. The Bothans didn't steal any plans, they discovered where the DS2 was being built, that it had an energy shield, and that The Emperor was visiting soon. They only got this intel because the Emperor wanted them to have it.

The latter, though she wouldn't know details. She had the vibe he was going to do something important but probably not survive it.

my theory is that Gilroy's premise for Andor's sister was vetoed relatively late by Disney because it involved something along the lines of the Old Republic genociding his native culture, which was too "all sides bad" for Filoni. the first episodes of the show are in many respects a confusing mess.

So Manny died for nothing?

The real answer is Gilroy forgot that was supposed to be important so he threw in a few seconds at the very end to act like he hadn't just forgotten about that element of the character.

This is in fact real life

So, how do you go from grunt sergeant to sophisticated, rich historian and artifact collector? Luthen's backstory was kinda bullshit.

then we never see him looking for her ever again in the entire series

Did you miss when his mom told him his sister was dead and to stop looking for her? Thus opening the door for him to choose the rebellion as his new heroic cause.

Tony Gilroy drops Santiago Calatrava architecture into the Coruscant landscape even though it's completely at odds with the aesthetic of the planet

You're so stupid it hurts

She felt the sheer mass of plot armor Andor was wearing during this show

Was that an Old Republic ship that crash landed or was it actually imperial? Seemed like something that happened during the Clone Wars.

It was a separatist ship IIRC. It had a sep logo somewhere on it

That just seemed like something she told him without any actual evidence herself. Did How would she even know that?

The only one I can think of besides background aliens, is Saw's D'Qar base, and probably the only reason it was D'Qar was because it was the same IRL location.

Bothans should be human, the same way the Ghor from Ghorman were. Just humans from Bothawui. The idea that they're a unique alien race is exceptionally stupid, especially if they have a spy network. How do you infiltrate and commit espionage across the Empire if you're some easily identifiable alien? I can't believe the EU made them some weird horse/dog species and then decided they should all be master spies as an entire race.

I would've preferred a series about Cassian going on spy missions and heists while Luthen sharked around the various Rebel factions. At least that would've been entertaining. They tried giving Cassian a backstory and friends and it was all just soggy cardboard crap that added almost nothing to his character. Oh but now he has a kid running around! Great, I really went into this series hoping it would find a way to undermine his death in Rogue One.

Maarva recognized men as republic officers despite them wearing CIS uniforms
So its unknown which side they actually belonged to

rewatching Rogue One

all the actors are younger (fine)

dialogue/story/characters just doesn't line up to where they JUST WERE in a series the creators had YEARS TO WRITE

aaaaaa

Gilroy saved Star Wars Andor.
This is what Star Wars should've been from the start.

krennic being threatening as fuck instead of a zesty motherfucker

She would not, factually, though the odds would be very long.
It was a message of love, of concern. She's watching her adoptive son pursue a hopeless quest and asking him to stop it.

The planet was rendered uninhabitable in a mining accident. So unless some other scrapper miraculously happened to find his sister and save her beforehand, she's dead.

Apparently Gilroy's son (the guy who looked like Thor in the group of idiot rebels Cassian encounters) is a huge SW fan and helped his old man out with lore.

Star wars is space fantasy, not science fiction.

It's explained in an episode guide or something. This was before the Clone Wars. So they were still part of the Republic.

This is what Star Wars should've been from the start.

A boring mess of garbage?

The planet was rendered uninhabitable in a mining accident.

That always just read like a cover-up excuse to me. It's quite possible the inhabitants were actually genocided and the survivors enslaved. Isn't it so remote that no one would bother verifying either way?

Anyway, it just seems like a weird thing to start with and never pursue further.

An absolute masterpiece of prestige drama, actually.

I guess he died

Some Bothans are mentioned as spying for the Rebellion

Bothans are an entire race of spies (everyone knows this and yet they are successful spies)

Jabba the Hutt is a gangster like Mickey the FIsh

Hutts are an entire race of gangsters

Some Twi'Lek chicks Bib Fortuna hired are sexy dancers

Twi'Lek women are all highly sexed and most are in erotic jobs, they got raided to be sex slaves

Watto is a disgustingly amoral big nosed money obsessed freak with a silly hat who can't be fooled by the goys

All Toydarians are jewish

Star Wars is inherentlybased

I agree, Luthen and his assistant were really the only characters fleshed out (and Mon Mothma, who is Luthen-adjacent) in a meaningful way.

But did he just surrender after the riot or did he jump anyway even though he couldnt swim, i like to think the later as he would have died a free man.

perrin with sculduns wife

That dude probably got fucking bagged by the ISB.

An absolute masterpiece of prestige drama, actually.

Yeah, that wedding arc was great. And it's good that they didn't resolve the sister plotline. And Star Wars isn't prestige BBC drama shit. All the characters were so cold and lifeless.

Good. Great character, but there is no reason to bring him back. He had the perfect send off.

Nah, it would've never taken off. Andor doesn't have the mythic quality that made Star Wars such a hit in the first place. It only stands out in contrast to the rest of Star Wars.

My name is Maarva Carrassi Andor. I'm honored to stand before you. I'm honored to be a fan of Star Wars, and honored to be worthy of the stone.

Strange, I... feel as if I can see it. I was six, I think, first time i watched Star Wars. Heard the music, felt the history, holding my sisters hand as we walked all the way through the Prequels. Where you stand now, I've been more times than i can remember.

I always wanted to be lifted. I was always eager, always waiting to be inspired. I remember every time it happened, every time the dead lifted me... with their truth. And now I'm dead, and I yearn to lift you. Not because i want to shine or even be remembered. It's because i want you to go on. I want Star Wars to continue. In my waning hours, thats what comforts me most.

But I fear for you. We've been sleeping. We've had each other, and Star Wars, our work, our days. We had each other and they left us alone. We kept the wallet open, and they left us alone. They took money and we ignored them, we kept their engine churning, and the moment they pulled away. we forgot them. Because we had each other. We had Star Wars. But we were sleeping. I've been sleeping. And I've been turning away from the truth I wanted not to face.

There is a wound that won't heal at the center of Lucas Films. There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us. We let it grow, and now it's here. It's here and it's not visiting anymore. It wants to stay.

The Filoniverse is a disease that thrives in darkness, it is never more alive than when we asleep. It's easy for the dead to tell you to fight, and maybe it's true, maybe fighting is useless. Perhaps it's too late. But I'll tell you this, if I could do it again, I'd wake up early and be fighting those bastards from the start! Fuck Dave Filoni!

that's basically what I remembered.
it really seemed like they made it unclear on purpose to the detriment of the story.
Andor having a reason to hate the Republic explains his early non-committal mindset.

did gilroy ever have any pitches for the sequel trilogy? he had to have some thoughts since he did rogue one

The whole backstory to this thing is they were originally kind obviously wanting another Mando, because the pitch being worked up by other people was basically Andor and K2 doing adventures.
It wasn't working out, Kennedy showed what they had to Gilroy for his take and he agreed it sucked and pitched his own alternate idea, that they just filed away originally because of the scope before pulling it back other when the other SW stuff started stumbling.

An absolute masterpiece of prestige drama, like I said! Emmy worthy. Gilroy W.

Sad Kleiya is too much for me bros

Go post this on reddit, hecking epic, I would give you gold if I could!

my boy lonni just goes out like that after all the shit he pulled through with

Fucking Luthen.

You know what's funny about that last Yavin scene?
Is that in a couple days they would have to have a massive ceremony about giving some medals to some randoms, despite living in a jungle in tents on rations

He only did Rogue One because they needed a talented director to fix their mess. Rogue One was in an abysmal state before Gilroy came and saved it (as much as he could)
He didn't have anything to do with Star Wars before that.
Andor is just his way of saying "This is how *I* would have done it from that start". Really he just wants to wash his hands clean of Rogue One lol

That's because Andor is not canon.

kys faggot.
Reddit laps up Filonislop.

yavin rebellion suddenly appears out of nowhere even though 3/4 of the show up until then was about them needing to stay in the shadows and keeping low-key

yavin rebellion hates luthen but we're never shown why

cassian claims yavin rebellion wouldn't exist without luthen but we're never shown why

Cool writing

Then a day later they have to haul ass to Hoth because blowing up a superweapon doesn't make you immune to being bombed by star destroyers.

It's a year later I thought.

For once I'll say a Star Wars thing needs something change. Rogue One needs to have some of the Andor theme in it

Well the fact that neither Cassian or Kleya recognizes each other as brother and sister, and Kleya isn't space-mexican should be enough, you fucking retard. It's not like Kassa and Kerri were separated at birth like Luke and Leia were.

everyone likes Boba Fett but we're never told why

disney make the book of boba tv series and explain it all in minute detail

sometimes its better to not know

The Aldhani heist and the prison arc seem like good blueprints for an episodic approach to the series.

Lucas planned three trilogies out in meticulous detail dontchaknow ;)

Kleya is white. Andor and his sister are some sort of tan mystery meat.

and explain it all in minute detail

that's an extremely generous read of what they did. all I remember is that involved Sophie Thatcher on a sixties bike for some reason.

The show says 1 BBY which would indicate a year. But the final shot leads directly into Rogue One which then leads directly into ANH.

Now that the dust has settled, who had the best monologue? For me it is Nemik. My boy the GOAT.

He only ever thought bubbled some smaller self contained ideas, like things you could do that aren't typical Star Wars. Not realistic pitches because he never wanted to devote to it forever.

most of those soldiers are cardboard cutouts. it's optics: pure PR spin to make the Rebellion LOOK bigger than it actually is. keeps the morale up while they're eating their meal packs in the mess hall.

Huffin' Saw

An absolute masterpiece of prestige drama, like I said! Emmy worthy. Gilroy W.

Emmy's mean nothing and this garbage will be forgotten soon.

Was Luthen bipolar? Usually he's serious and grumpy but suddenly he'll be really cheerful sometimes.

Saw twice, his rant to Luthen in season 1 and then his gasoline huffing speech in season 2.

I think I miss my wife

Guy had a tough life.

Still Luthen.
Saw's gas speech is a close second.

fucks his daughter's mother-in-law

Odd choice.

>yavin rebellion hates luthen but we're never shown why

They're the Greek chorus, anon.

You are the fucking ingition boy

yavin rebellion hates luthen but we're never shown why

They hate him for the same reason they hate Saw. They're both unpredictable assholes and will likely kill you if they deem it for the greater good.

There was only ever one way out anon.

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too by having Luthen be vital to Mon Mothma's escape and thus vital to her subsequently calling together the Rebel Alliance, while also making everyone dislike him for reasons. Gilroy clearly had some notion of Luthen as a great yet unsung hero of the Rebellion and these final episodes have been him shoving that down the audience's throats.

And yet everything leads to the sequel trilogy in the end anyway.

Andor is an absolute masterpiece of prestige drama.

>everyone likes Boba Fett but we're never told why

You're retarded.

Boba isn't some giant bounty hunter, he's a little guy

Boba has a cool suit with a t-visor helmet and the suit has clearly been banged up

Boba was smarter than the other bounty hunters, the rebels, and the empire

Boba back talked Vader and lived, in fact Vader guaranteed him money

Fucking retard. And fans liking something doesn't need an explanation from the creator. The plot points from the other anon could have used an explanation.

Kino’s speech on the prison mic.

Who the fuck shot Partagaz? Did Lagret set him up?

God damn

Darth Vader did.

They're also heavy on wishy-washy politicians. They're the one in Rogue One who were ready to surrender to the Empire if the Death Star went active if Mon, Bail and Admiral Raddick hadn't forced the issue and saved the Rebellions ass

Andor is an absolute masterpiece of prestige drama.

Only bledditards think this

I wouldn’t be surprised if Andor itself was part of the bribe to fix Rogue One.

What do you want it to say?

Syril's force ghost

Uh

I hope they locked those 2 fuckers outside in the snow on Hoth or just left them behind on Yavin.

0 BBY.

Based

No 0 implies it happened already.

1 BBY indicates a calendar year, it could be December.

Star Wars lacking an in universe calendar is weird.

There is no 0 BBY like there is no 0 AD or 0 BC

Wouldn't that be 0 ABY?

I hate Dave fagloni

That's is all

i wanted her to say stardust

death star isnt even a word! its two words!

0BBY is before, it's just being picky because it's more annoying to write 0.001 BBY

likewise, luthen could’ve just shot himself after burning the comms instead of letting her in

hitman, you mean

Luthen is like someone's DeviantArt OC, who is actually behind everything and the most important person in the universe.

0 BBY is a year in star wars, there is no 0 ABY though. It goes 1 BBY 0 BBY 1 ABY

You're saying this about a franchise born from a movie trilogy about The Most Special Boy

kek

There's a 0 BBY and 0 ABY, lorelets.

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0_BBY
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0_ABY

I know it's pedantic, but the script throughout this whole season has a lot of little snags like that. Word choices that aren't quite right, but it's not enough to break the scene. It doesn't come off like it's a deliberate attempt to be naturalistic or something. More like it's a first draft and the editor isn't paying much attention.

was that a reference to the wikileaks audio in ep10 on the radio chatter in the flashback

youtube.com/watch?v=zYTxuW2vmzk

they were probably going to scapegoat him for his team’s fuckups

0 BBY is a year in star wars

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0_BBY
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/0_ABY

holy fuck I didn't know Star Wars fans were fucking retards

Netflixification of media where you shove the climax in the middle and have a long boring unsatisfying coda arc is awful.

sexo

Yeah, but that special boy was established by the creator, and he was space wizard space boy of a legendary jedi knight, who also turned out to be the chosen one. Luthen is made up by some random guy for hire, he is just some random fucking asshole, who is ackchyually behind the rebellion all along, and is super important and without him none of that would have happened, you just need to watch this 24 hours long show, bro, trust me.

0 BBY and 0 ABY are referring to the time immediately before and immediately after ANH

it makes sense to include them as years but they really should be a single year of 365 days

FUN FACT: while 'BBY' stands for 'Before the Battle of Yavin' as most people believe, 'ABY' actually stands for 'Anno Battalion Yavonis'

Shocked Kleya and Vel made it out alive

I was surprised Kleya survived. Vel can't die because they already killed one lesbian

its a prequel. they were always going to reach a point where there were no more meaningful surprises.

its a prequel. they were always going to reach a point where there were no more meaningful surprises.

He didn't say "surprise" he said "climax"

So K2 remembers shit he did as an imperial droid huh.

hey k2 what did you do on ghorman?

They really did it, the Rebels actually blew up a hospital

All this suffering boils down to the entire rebellion hinging on Leia fleeing from Scarif to the one planet in the entire galaxy that happened to have her brother on it

The Force works in mysterious ways

why did andy serkis say he was coming back as kino goy?

and two droids lost in the dunes

I just now realized it was that ISB guy K2 was using as a human shield

hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/andor-why-andy-serkis-cassian-sister-never-returned-1236211328/

new interview dropped

I haven't heard Tony Gilroy give his opinion on any other SW show except that some of them "didn't stick the landing". But he actually mentioned Skeleton Crew by name and said he thought it was really good.

I am surprised they didnt have Bail namedrop her in these episodes

Well she was going there for Obi-Wan, who himself was there because her brother was on it. It's not actually much of a coincidence at all.

this show couldnt have ended better, the entire investigation drama arc, luthens death, dedras final shot of her in the prison, the tying into rogue one.

blandor faggots btfo

absolutely zero cameos

The only things I was right about was Mon Mothma already having short hair and Luthen obviously dying. At least Glub Shitto got a cameo.

Gilroy confirms the baby is Cassian's and also male.

Bail was kind of an asshole in the last episode. Now I feel less sympathetic for him when he gets Death Star'd

Kleya lives to see Sequel Mon Mothma destroy everything they fought for

The nightmare ending

this show couldnt have ended better

What a brutal condemnation of the writers

Oh wow, thanks you, Master Tony, we could not have guessed it without you saying it. Does he think he is too subtle, which is why he needs to spell it out? He isn't.

I don't know why Gilroy had to do Bail dirty like that

Correct.

screenshots from MYST IV: Revelation™

vs.

actual location shots

one is a prerequisite for the other

crashing out over an interview response

I hope this elderly alien was found safe and sound and was returned to proper treatment.

media spin, Andor was a show they didn't really care about. Now that it's popular she's putting her name on it front and center

it added kino to the universe you negative faggot

Dunno, he was already an asshole who shoots people in S1E1. Didn't really add much.

a goody two-shoes who will go above and beyond to do what's right, whose only error was believing the propaganda he'd been fed since childhood

can't do this for any other character in the show.

Gilroy has said Andor is entirely thanks to her for years

Autistic question
Has anyone else been annoyed at how they refer to planets?
As in "in Coruscant, in Ghorman, in Yavin" instead of "on planet_name"

thanks madam producer for not ruining my film with your megalomaniacal micromanaging control

Do Hollywood directors really?

Luthen is made up by some random guy

False. Gilroy was officially assigned to make Luthen by company, which was created by the Most Special Boy creator and later sold to Disney for 4 billions dollars.

Didn't clock that. I DO like referring to the people of Naboo as "the Naboo", whether that's silly fish-people dialect or common terminology. "Nubian" is fuckin weird.

I would accept "Coruscanti" as a demonym or adjective tbqh.