Be AMC

be AMC

produce two seasons of an amazing near 10/10 show

spend fucking $0 advertizing it

release it on their shitty streaming service no one uses

litterally no one knows or talks about it two years later

wtf

Don't forget

finally sell the rights on Netflix

but only the first season

the second season is nowhere to be found any ou have to watch it on fucking YouTube

What were they thinking lmfao

he doesn't know how to pirate

lmao

okay retard how do you do it then, genius

LMAOOOOOO

no, its very bad and full of insufferable millennial writing

they can't even hide their admiration for Steve Jobs because they keep fellating the villain constantly

It has some cool ideas wrapped in YA and reddit cringe

I hope you are joking. Do zoomers really not know about torrents? Only retards watch tv on youtube.

I couldn't stand that it made the brainlet mistake of treating a mindscan as a continuation of the original person. No, Maddie, your dad is not still alive he is a VisualBoyAdvance running a .gba on a laptop.

as a continuation of the original person.

Since a) the original person is dead and b) this is only stated from the perspective of another person, not the one being uploaded, is there really a difference?

is there really a difference?

Yes. Any other questions?

explain why

Any other questions?

What is the difference exactly? All the things that we would normally attribute to a "person" like memories, experiences and thought patterns are identical in the scan compared to the original, so for all intents and purposes it would be the same person.

Fine, Netlixmarketer-san.
The original is ded. The appearance of a thing is not the substance of a thing. This also explains troons and goons. Most of humanity doesn't have have the mental hardware to survive seeing simulated things on screens it breaks their minds. Hope this helps.

Not to the person.

what is the substance of a thing if not the thing itself?

You're now conflating perception and nature and hoping I won't notice. This is reductive in the extreme.

talking about a substance is as speculative as talking about a soul
you're placing metaphysical layers where only the object exists

substance is a spook

Not to the person.

Maybe. But to an external observer (Maddie in this case), they are and the same.

Pseudbabble

Riveting.
The perception of a thing differs from the nature of a thing. To speak of a painting is not to speak of oils and canvas. Up here in the 200+ IQ range we understand this intuitively.

Then the external observer is wrong.

This isn't difficult you guys (single netflix marketer). Pic related I'm on a time limit in this thread so use your time with me wisely. Asserting the same thing over and over in different terminology because you think it makes you seem smart is not using your time wisely.

This was surprisingly good

Then the external observer is wrong.

Because you said so? Sure buddy.

Sure buddy.

Your agreement is welcomed and I notice you've given up trying to argue. Embarrassing this was something you guys argue about at all, it's absolutely basic stuff.

The original is ded. The appearance of a thing is not the substance of a thing

Babbys first Theseus ship paradox that he can't handle lmao
Wait till you find out the cells in your body live 2 years max

argue

Your entire argument is "no ur wrong", hence there is nothing to debate.

I can't understand and am mad about it

Many such cases.
youtube.com/watch?v=zHGdM1veH4E

If you were actually 200+ IQ you would be able to express your points convincingly. Instead you sound like a smarmy idiot. You also started talking about pseuds when no one brought them up, which is typically a textbook tell that you don't want to be called out as one.
Anyway, hope you enjoy Prince of Persia anon! I have absolutely nothing to ask you so please don't stay around on my account!

hurrr im a retard

ok retard

hurrr you don't understand what I'm talking about

Many such cases

If you were actually 200+ IQ you would be able to express your points convincingly.

Go convince a rock of something. It's impossible no matter how articulate you are.

Anyway, hope you enjoy Prince of Persia anon!

Thanks man, I haven't played it since I was a kid and was feeling nostalgic today.

Finally a proper response. A fine pee-pee-poo-poo to you too, buddy.

I hope I've been a good squeezetoy for bumps, assuming of course they're still using shills and not just shitposting AI.

i really liked it the shows is really out there and the ending and last episode is so far out there its just wild even by sci fi standards

Levels of nufag that shouldn't even be possible

i liked how in this show they were able to defuse the deadly vaccine. if only they had been able to irl

justine is my nigga

you can tell the studio was butthurt about the second season the framerate drops a ton in several scenes, but luckily paul dano wouldn't take no for an answer

LOOK AT THIS DUUUUUUUU

tips hat* how ontologically redcutionist of you CHHHH* with that logic chhHHHH* What constitutes the material is THe thing that makes it "special"..No..a "mian" chhhh* is a facsimile of its environment chhhh* whether David 2 is copy of David 1 whom is also a copy SUbsumes the argument of object being

10/10 doesnt need a third season chHHH*

Anime :I

Anime, America :O

Both seasons are on Netflix in the UK

Last bump before I go take a bath because I genuinely liked this show or at least the first season which is the only one I saw.

Sex with Maddie
Cumming inside Maddie
Impregnating Maddie

be normalfag

see a show with a faux anime art style on the latest streaming service

immediately swallow it up without a second thought

crazy how the jews took something that was once niche with extremely limited appeal in first world countries and turned it into surefire bait for only the most normal of normalfaggots.

you should watch the second season as well
do you mean this is an anime only watched by normalfags?

SHE IS ONLY 14 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCK

zoomers and gen alpha can't navigate a fucking file system and don't know basic ass keyboard commands

This show was KOTHO

To all those asperging about muh substance, the show does well many things, among which: depiction of virtual life, contribution to the lore of a 'destructive" uploading process

To add. A consciousness born just recently is not less real than an apparently more real human consciousness. Watch more GITS and cyberpunk. Read Descartes. For example, in neuromancer, they plug in a virtual copy of the mind of a deatch hacker. They can only use for short periods of time bc otherwise it would roll into dementia. But everytime they plug it in the consciousness thinks he is the real one, albeit continuing from the time the copy was made. Think Rachel and his suffering when discovering her memories are Tyrell's nephew

But most of all. Fucking retards, this is fiction. It is not a philosophical essay, though it might we'll be. But it is fiction. You are fucking autistic and a real faggits

see cartoon

immediately think about jews

Meds.

It was on Max or Netflix, forgot which.

Exactly

sees opinion he dislikes

immediately thinks of unmedicated psychosis

Meds.

Recommended
The first season was already really good and kinda grounded second season at the halfway point goes full scifi and its amazing.

Zoomers are so clueless about the internet

show starts

hacker kids on bikes

show ends

year 117 gorillion: near infinite simulations of the start of the show running on a dysonsphere controlled digital god maddie

This show has one of my favorite scenes in any show ever when they build a small server farm in their home all set to the song Mr Roboto.
Its not some made up bullshit but actually detailed and very close to how it is done with our current hardware.

anon is back to shilling Pantheon

Season 2 was bad
Season 1 was alright
You just want to fuck the main girl, let's be honest

least enjoyable show i have every watched
literally every episode is extremely depressing
i finished the first season and stopped
i just have no reason to subject myself to that
same reason why i stopped luther
great show but its just fucking awful at the same time
way too depressing

There is a massive ethical debate about this throughout the series that doesn't even get fully resolved by the end of it. One might even say that the ethical conundrum is the point.

There is no ethical debate required. A copy is not the original. A copy in another medium is doubly and immediately not the original.

Season 2 was bad

It started out worse than season one, but then turned into full-on gigakino in the last few episodes

Why not?

I watched it all on Netflix a week ago.
It was very weak and very surface level simulation "philosophy " crap.

Also the animation had that horrible western animation sensibility for the character expression and the writing was shit.

A copy is not the original

This distinction becomes entirely meaningless because of the existence of perfect copies.
If you can't even tell which one is the copy, what's the point of seething about it?

If you can't even tell

Perception is not infallible and not the arbiter of reality. We've been over this.
The other guy was smug too until I smacked him around intellectually until he got into this state.

I think you're genuinely too retarded to understand the concept of a perfect copy lmfao

I think

I doubt that

ITT: philosophyfags jerking themselves off over how they are more intelligent than an PG-13 animu

imagine you can't enjoy an animu with entertaining, but still decent takes on an interesting topic because you have to feel intellectually superior

muh tech enabled perfect copy

muh tech singularity perfectly copied this human

wtf my sci-fi is too incomprehensible for my tiny mind

I'm not more intelligent than this show, just apparently more intelligent than some of the plebs infesting my board and planet.

philosophyfags

Imagine outsourcing your thinking like this. I just use my giant gigabrain.

You are a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Seething noises

Lmao

my hand wave sci-fi escapism is somehow not run of the mill magical realism just because it says its science fiction!

sci-fi isn't sci-fi when it's not realistic with current tech

The absolute state of Anon Babblebabbies

Are you retarded?

Both seasons are on Netflix in America dude

There is no ethical debate required. A copy is not the original. A copy in another medium is doubly and immediately not the original.

yes but in the context of the show they bamboozle you by revealing the entire show was a simulation, so none of the characters were by your definition "real" at any point
the simplest thing that solves the riddle for me is that I also believe a copy is not the original, which means that if a copy IS made of me, that copy will from the start believe it is not the original me and not a continuation of me and act/change accordingly

Anon, I'll give you a hint. The hint is that if all the oldfags were all able to figure it out 20+ years ago without having to ask on fucking Anon Babble, then you can probably figure it out yourself in 2025.

Jesus Christ, the absolute state of things.

You guys are ignoring the fact that it isn't just a brainscan in the show, but a conversion - the brain is destroyed and digitized in the process, so in the fiction it's a direct continuation. It is explicit that you don't die when you're uploaded, otherwise people who are perfectly healthy wouldn't be deciding to upload themselves just to join the trend.

Whether that really makes sense doesn't matter, since we're talking science fiction here. Like how transporters in Star Trek explicitely don't kill you and create a clone, because they're moving your entire body in a transporter stream or whatever (even though they fucking break those rules with all the transporter bodyhorror and Riker's clone and all that).

I forget, did Pantheon deal with people cloning their consciousness after being uploaded?

The structures of your brain that hold your memories and personality have continuity, even if they see repairs along the way anon.

This whole discussion is stupid. If I make a clone of you that is completely identical, it is not you, it's a copy. It doesn't then become the real you just because I shoot the original.

The gradual replacement of cells doesn't make a human a different person, correct.

Good bait

For example, in neuromancer, they plug in a virtual copy of the mind of a deatch hacker.

McCoy? He doesn't think he's a real person, he knows he's a copied consciousness. I think all the copied concsciousnesses we see in the series know. And they're not perfect copies either, more like a computer trying it's best imitation using memories