Andor General

Andor General - Kyber Krystal Jack Bro Edition

is it a j/o crystal?

the monster that will come for us all soon enough is Donald drumpf...

dropping the N work in front of your supervisor at work

yeah, they were getting a little close to the line with that stuff for me. It didn't come across so political in the last season.

or maybe trump is getting a little close to being palpatine

There goes my hero

I didn't know MacLachlan is starring in this shit.

Better he went down there, then be a turncoat. You know disney can't help but make everyone see the light and become a rebel.

we will never get /partofit/ syril

I feel cheated

One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad."
The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write. Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...
This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this. And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a CINEMATIC basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way. So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.

is just song

and ta ensure tha security an' continued stability, really, it's stable, rock solid, a real solid winner, our stability.....the United States is gonna be reorganized inta tha first AMERICAN EMPIRE! A great empire, the best the world has seen, trust me, its gonna be yuge. For a safe, and honestly, my favorite part, a secure society, its gonna be big, trust me.

that was my very first thought when i saw him but then again im really bad with faces

Why didn't Syril have a breakdown on Ferrix?

Nigga heil Palpatine, nigga heil Palpatine
They don't understand the things I say on twitter
Nigga heil Palpatine.
They don't understand the things I say on twitter
All my niggas Sidious , nigga heil Palpatine
Nigga heil Palpatine nigga heil Palpetine
All my niggas Sidious, nigga heil Palpatine

He did?

The second time I mean

This season must be really shit because barely anyone is talking about it. All I've seen are headlines like "Finally, Star Wars has tackled the topic of rape" and lesbian shit.

The conspiracy we've feared is real!

The conspiracy we've feared: Israel!

"The conspiracy we've feared is real" is is such an unnatural phrasing you will NOT convince me that this wasn't intentional.

And good on the showrunners for slipping it in there.

He might've if Dedra had died then.

But that was another situation where the imperials were just gunning everyone down

because there wasn't warm enza body to spend nights with

Who has the pic of someone pointing a blaster at Filoni coming down an elevator

Jinn, my Stardussy

I don't understand his character arc, it just repeats S1 and S2

syril tripped over his own luggage after being told to turn the lights off, they then had sex on the floor for one hour

NERFHERDER

obvi

The closest thing we have to a real Death Star or Metal Gear is our fleet of nuclear submarines. In the future, once AI drone swarms are sufficiently advanced we might see the return of submarine aircraft carriers (see picrel). Once the two concepts are combined, we will have a true Death Star.

Ian McDiarmid's the king of camp. Jar Jar is a sussy amphibian slapstick artist. Mothma's Cunt Cicero and has to deliver as such, not Ginger Elizabeth Warren appealing to kindergarten ethics in stentorian bromides. And they have the audacity to use non-in universe cursing out of Bail's mouth right beforehand, because he actually has the gravitas expected and established-- and we have to bring the audience's expectations down to the writers' inadequate level for it to remotely land just like having Picard and everyone around him curse like space sailors in the most recent Star Trek slop

I disagree. The purpose of nuclear submarines is primarily as a second strike capability, not a first strike terror weapon. The Death Star is more a metaphorical idea of a terror weapon than a real practical one.

It's like pottery, sort of, they rhyme...... Every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one.... *shrug* Hopefully it'll work.....

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Luuke_Skywalker
starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Luuuke_Skywalker

Luuuke is an April fools joke

The only thing poetic about this is that I was vomiting in stanzas

I wish you were drunk.

What were the most kino lines this season?

RIP a real one

who are you?

Simply takes the cake. They even named the episode that

Who are you?

I'm the cook

Cute buttplug andorsisters

who are you?

I'm Jean Valjean

Syril bros... Can Uncle Harlo fix this?

'fraid not

Cassian telling Mon 'welcome to the rebellion' while escaping from the senate building had me feeling feels

I don't get why this "Ghorman massacre" is so hyped up by people. It's just a generic shoot out that has been done millions of times before in media of dissidents being crushed.

Because it's the second Ghorman massacre. In EU shit this event is what gets the Rebels to finally form an alliance instead of being a bunch of individual cells who are shit like the ones in Yavin in the first arc

Finally watched the episodes.

Why the fuck was everyone so fucking hesitant to take a shot all of episode 8? Even if Andor was afraid of the glass, she walked on the fucking balcony and was open to shoot. And then Syril fucking pauses before shooting Andor.

Oh and when Andor wants to leave the planet, THERE'S NO TIME, except when there's time to go pick up the KX unit because we saw it in Rogue One. What an awful way to introduce the character.

That being said these episodes were probably like 7/10. It feels like I'm watching HotD again where the episodes are mostly good except there's always one part that's REALLY fucking dumb.

Andor won't sweep the Emmys but it should. Would anyone rather watch Severance over this if it wasn't associated with Star Wars?

Andor needed a clean shot and if he missed all those people would die for nothing (they died anyway)

cereal didn't shoot Andor right away because the whole arc was him losing faith in his cause

they grabbed K2 seeing the potential in reprogramming it, oh wow, such a plothole

oh and the Mon Mothma speech was kind of lackluster, idk how all the good monologues come from either Saw or Luthen

You don't get a fucking cleaner shot than her looking out on the balcony
Syril killing Andor was personal, it was bigger than supporting the rebellion or empire
you can't be like NOOOOO DON'T GO WILMON WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SAVE YOUR GF and then in the same breath stop what you're doing to go pick up a random droid like a single broken droid is going to turn the tide of the rebellion?

Saw and Luthen are Rebels, Mon Mothma is a politician so her's was more tame

Are we gonna see the Emperor in the finale? I feel like it's necessary

They'd have to find his gf in the chaos, the droid was right there

Gilroy said no Vader because he's too limiting, and no Palpatine because there's too much to set up and do to justify having the character be included since he wouldn't want just a brief cameo-like appearance.

How is it necessary? All he cares about is power and killing Jedi. He probably lol'd hearing about the massacre.

oooh and vader too omg goosebumps

what if the ending shot is on tattooine...!

they NEED to honor peter mayhew too, chewbacca and han NEED a cameo!

stop

Calling it now- Dedra won't die in this series, she'll be promoted to working on the Death Star

That's the general theory, yes

Hopefully Diego Luna has a good career after this. I think he's a good actor

Last scene will be here being Uncle Harlo'd

Lucasfilm: "We'll just just steal some ideas from an anime and nobody will ever know because our fans are like Renaissance fair nerds."

Lucasfilm genuinely doesn't care about this show because it's just typical Gilroy espionage shit that won't matter in whatever shit they're planning

Yet everyone

everyone

Why the fuck was everyone so fucking hesitant to take a shot all of episode 8?

he only had one shot at deedra and aiming with long range scopes in reality is pretty hard.

the whole uprising in Ghorman felt like I was watching Les Mis

Well they pretty much did "Do You Hear the People Sing" in fake space French

also, i think using blasters at such a rain adds another layer of difficulty since they don't seem to be as accurate as real life ballistic weapons and have a longer travel time unless it's a specialized sniper blaster or something. cassian's was just a modular blaster with a scope. it makes sense that the shot would take time to line up.

such a rain

such a range...

I'm pretty sure sleepy annoyed Syril was supposed to foreshadow dead Syril but Gilroy is such a boomer he didn't understand how funny and memeable it is

i heard him getting on the bed like that wasn't planned and he just did that then they kept it in

the grounded and visceral way they portray the officer rapist getting his head clobbered and the subsequent brain trauma with his screaming was crazy good. i think they try to show that his brains are too scrambled to figure out how to even unholster his weapon too

In general, its really cool how brutal this season was. Like the main ghor woman getting absolutely HEEM'd to death by the Droid during the massacre. It's a place that star wars rarely goes. It really sets the stage that this isn't a kids show. There's no space wizard appearing at the last moment to save the day and then make some quip. No comic book revival plot. There's a permanence to the violence that's sobering. Real sacrifice. Heroes that will never be properly honored for what they did.

I think Andor was also a little shook by Syril just getting a headshot

not lines, but expression

not sure but i think that was the first time he saw raw death that close.

At least Gilroy learned how to slow the fuck down when it came to fist fight scenes. Bourne Ultimatum is practically unwatchable

He's one shotted people himself before but maybe seeing someone else do it freaked him out

first time he saw raw death that close

This series opens with Cassian looking a man in the eyes and blowing his brains out.

if he was the writer, that's out of his control. director on the other hand, yeah, i guess he could've pulled the punched a bit no pun intended

cut me some slack, season 1 feels like it was forever ago

oops lol

Now that no one wants to fuck her she's going to go nuts

i think the name-drops are enough. at most, we could get a hologram message from ian mcdiarmid or sam witwer. the empire having countless layers of bureaucracy fits perfectly for this show. so many layers that you'd never see who's really in charge.
i will say that i need some more tasteful reminders that this show's happening in the star wars universe. the high writing quality and subject matter make me forget sometimes.

found dead via autoerotic asphyxiation

Pretty rough instakill, obviously he was going to die in this show but to get shot right when he realized he was working for the wrong side, geez

andor hardly stands on its star wars legs.
is me, and like i said, the show needs to remind me sometimes that this is in the star wars universe. going in, i guess people have a general understanding of the galactic politics at play. still, did anyone really know or care about ghorman before this?

WHO WE CHARGIN OUR KHYBER CRYSTALS TO TONIGHT BOYS

Good morning sir!

Are we the bad guys?

Seems like they're both the bad guys until Luke shows up

Gilroy. Bothans. Six episode limited series.

WASTE THE MOTHER FUCKERS

Literally EU parliament

leaves a hair behind

This is a Bothan hair!

roll credits

I don't think this Is real. They can't be the bad guys.

Dr. Andor, I'm many Bothans

The Rebels basically manipulated and orchestrated a massacre to get more people to join their cause. And yeah the Empire blows up a fucking planet but they both don't seem very good

I think it was the Empire that did the former.

Even after seeing what they did to Ghorman and how Syril began to turn away...

... Why does my literally diagnosed autistic ass still support the Empire?

It’s ridiculous. America NEEDS a Palpatine and this stupid show is trying to portray an actual leader as evil.

America NEEDS a Palpatine

?

because they look cool

Narratively speaking, what was the point of Syril's character?

be working for bad guys

learn bad guys are bad

die immediately

Extremely unsatisfying and frankly cruel. Unless we see Dedra go interesting because of this.

Kek, I fucking love Gilroy.
Bro doesn't care at all and deliver kino anyway.

When Andor was talking to the imperial recruit to become a pilot, and he was asked what his pronouns were and he said ..."I do not know what my pronouns are...." and the imperial officer said
:Well its a simple choice...its an And/Or decision..."

need a prequel about this guy

He was really goof in the Mandalorian.

Star Wars, a communist Hungarian story

The show is so bad, you can tell hald the actors asked to killed off midway through it.

It reflects the average person working experience in a facist regime. Most don't even realize they are working for the bad guys.

That was antonio banderas

What will our guy Saw "Space Bin Laden" Gerrera do in the last 3 episodes?

That guy doing the arm grab slap thing was great.

Andor has one facial expression.

Getting high on gas

Facism is fucking cool as shit. The empire is goated rest in shit to faggot ghormans and rebels

Because trannys hate them and anything they hate is inherently good

The point of Syril's character is to show how someone that could be a good guy/hero is blinded by the system around him.
Syril was principally driven by justice, he always saw Cassian as a criminal and did everything in his power to arrest him because in his mind, it was the right thing to do. While trying to bring him to justice, we saw him fail and struggling with the consequences, but even at his worst, he tried his best to overcome the system to do the right thing. He simply didn’t understand that the real problem in his life was the very system around him, a system that had always failed him.

When he's in shock during the Ghorman massacre realizing the truth about the Empire, seeing Cassian triggers him because it’s his only way to cope with the situation. He sees Cassian as the devil, everytime he appear somewhere a dramatic event is taking place. In that final moment, when Cassian asks him who he is, he probably realizes that Cassian was just a human who was fighting the system who actually betrayed his trust. That he was wrong all this time, about him and the Empire. We witnessed during a split second of realization the turning point of his life, which was shafted away by the man who suffered the most from Syril's blindness.
With his passion and obsession for doing what’s right and bringing justice, Syril could have been one of the Rebellion’s greatest allies if they had found him in time.

Wait so the death star is just a gigantic light saber?

Perception is everything. Misperception or a myopic perspective is what causes good intention to achieve perverse aims. This is true for all political affiliation.

always was
seriously imagine the death star with a giant laser just sticking out of it, instead of shooting, and the death star slowly turns to slice a planet in half

Why do chuds hate this show?

I don't understand his character arc, it just repeats S1 and S2

S1 reinforces his presconceptions . S2 destroys them.

Syril killing Andor was personal

That got disarmed by Andor not knowing who Syril is. Even his years-long grudge turns out to be one-sided.

Played by Marky Mark

That is by design. His character is portrayed through his eyes. It's also what makes him a good embedded spy -thief-assaassin.

Sex with Mon Mothma

Is Kleya a lesbian?

Why does my literally diagnosed autistic ass still support the Empire?

Alderaan's a statistically meaningless price to pay to physically remove seditious conspirators. EU canon or Disneed-- the Galaxy is imperilled by immanent invasion by Bigger Bads and radically weakened, deviating from Palps' instinct that militarization was required to face it. The Force even ordained it with the Clone Wars because the Republic in that state was unequal to the task.

What will our guy Saw "Space Bin Laden" Gerrera do in the last 3 episodes?

Blow Ghorman up to complicate the mining strategic picture, and delaying the Death Star's completion by a lot. The irony should be that Luthin - or at least Vel/Bix - are taken out by Mothma/Yavin Fleet Command, but not before he gets the propaganda coup which 5shadows Alderaan as retaliation Maybe use the Rhydonium as a chemical weapon in some mass casualty capacity and/or scuttling the planet. Saw's zealotry in some way needs to be (at least seen as) the efficient cause of Bix's death, such that presages Rogue One issues. Luthin gone, only Andor's qualified to take over the network-- which is only then retained after verifying that Bail's detail was compromised, and how.

She makes a pass at Vel during the wedding, you tell me

Why does my literally diagnosed autistic ass still support the Empire?

You have taste and individuality, and recognize that the Empire as a whole shouldn't be judged by the actions of a few, just as the Rebellion as a whole shouldn't be worshipped as heroes for the actions of a few.

He picked the perfect person and place to drop it, too. The bagboy was a real G(hor).

"we're looking for outside agitators ..."

Without Cyril being good with languages - and the additional tension of eavesdropping face to face with Ghorman rebels - he never, ever should have been put in the position of human intelligence gathering aside from the cover story of that new job given his bean counter cum private investigator lane. Dedra needed to give the context of the ore being mined being part of imperial grand strategy, and controlling it would prevent proliferation of a weapon of mass destruction-- there's a lot of great potential setups that, being rushed, suffer twice for suboptimal dialogue/exposition. Overcoming Andor there, he could rub Dedra's nose in the plaza massacre being preventable, at least in his mind (chokeout was clunky, give the guy a vibroblade and make Cassian take real damage + suspense of being detained at knifepoint WITHOUT the risk of negligent discharge into him when Inglorious Basterd German blasts him).

This. There was also a suspiciously large amount of flag waving for a show with space travel.

Say no more

He looks suspiciously like Kyle Reese here.

I prefer season three arc over the rest by far.

doesn't list the watch battery or led in materials list

dropped

that's because it's a real kyber crystal you fucking retard

not listed in the materials list either, disregarded

Is it me or are those security droids better than dark troopers.

punch and throw people 10 meter through the air

take more than 10 shots, nearly impervious

runs like an athlete

high intelligence

Actual terrifying shit.

They do the same exact shit.

no way that's unintentional

Yeah, the way he's holding the blaster and the overcoat really sells it.

More KX terminator references please

Which one did you prefer?
Varian Skye or...

Ronni Go.. Gog... Googe

I back the Kyle Reese look

The rebels do nothing to attract the confidence of even a remotely normal person. Every action they took before and after victory was one of antisocial defiance, and it's not clear they have the capacity to do anything constructive.

Even in the non-canon sequel trilogy the only thing they could come up with the restored republic doing is throwing away the fruits of victory by demilitarizing into toothless planetary defenses again. There's no structure, no purpose, they're pointlessly liberal and it ends up (meaninglessly) destroying them.
Anakin Skywalker was completely correct about the true nature of power in Attack of the Clones.

No it's just because they don't look cool. Their only cool thing is the X-wing and Y-wing, their uniforms are all lame as fuck.
It's this or the orange jumpsuit for pilots.

I like the U Wing the most and I wish we had seen how he obtained it. Unless he just bought it like a used car.

I also forgot about the A and B wings. Atleast they made the CIS and Republic both be extremely cool looking in the prequels.

the rebels are fairly realistic in that they're deluded, misguided and a collection of cultist amateurs with no real plan or idea beyond "smash the system".
maybe some of them believe themselves to have good intentions, but none of that is forthcoming, instead they wrought chaos and instability under the guise of "freedom".

I can't understand american drivel anymore. it's all just one long run-on sentence packed with fillers.

i was like sitting and then he said and I was like what but then he said I was then I was then I was like what and he said what and I was like what.

- Albert Einstein, 2025

Hindu?

'Aime mes peuple.
'Aime ma Ghorman.
'Aime mes chansons.
Simple comme.
'Eteste les traitres.
'Eteste l'Empereur.
'Eteste l'Empire.

You are in the Republic military during the Clone Wars. Republic turns into Empire. Do you stay in the Empire or join (overtly or covertly) some rebellion? If you do fight against the Empire at what point do you turn against it? If you remain loyal to the Empire why?

If I'm a Clone Wars veteran I'm fucking retiring once my 20 years are in, which they would be by the time the rebellion actually starts shooting at military officers beyond the scope of theft. You'll catch my ass on a pleasure planet.

I have no idea if this was just something they did without much thought or if there is some extended media stuff that tries to say it is the case, but I suspect that the idea with the attached image was the same principle of the Death Star just in a very very very basic version.

Totally

It seems like there should be stuff about Separatists remnants. Like the foundation of the rebellion should just be the continuation of the Separatists from the Clone Wars. As for Republic/Imperial, best scenario is you can defect and bring with you a ship, or ships, and crew that are loyal - though, unless specific conditions, that seems very unlikely it will go smoothly or at all. Depending on your position you may be able to do more value for the rebels as a mole in the Imperial system, with some plan in place to escape if you get revealed so you can join them openly. As for loyalty or not... it probably very much comes down to how well you are doing in the Imperial system and what leverage the Imperials have over you (e.g. family). In general, if there is going to be a widespread turning point then it seems like it would be Alderaan. Something to ask is what exactly is the endgame for the rebellion? Restoring the Republic? Republic as what? The Republic was corrupt before Palpatine, there is a clear separatist movement (so do we force everyone back into the fold?), and the Republic did not just magically transform into the Empire (the line between them is blurred and there is clearly some significant support for it).

That would be kino
Imagine 2 dueling death stars in space

Yeah has been for a while. Watch the unfinished Clone Wars stuff to see the size of the kyber crystals they have to use.

just watched an episode of the mandalorian had jack black and the doc from back to the future and maybe the large black woman Lizzo? not sure kino in it with a droid uprising detective story cool aliens dark sabers baby sneed yoda...all around a really good star wars episode.

fagloni fans suddenly dont like it when the boot is on the other foot

lol
lmao even

Never allowed to ask why Mothma and her Chandrilan mob connection were bankrolling everything. Nothing but pure motives. Fuck Drumof and all that

This show makes the Empire look more terrifying than any of the movies or past shows. This Empire is actually competent.

That's what happens when you're not making gee whiz kiddie shit

cope

It wasn't a Yes/No question...it was a And/Or question....And/Or...Andor...that's what well call you...

That scene was pure KINO

Doesn't the Empire have training standards?

training standards

For being a spaceship technician?

based

the daughter is so cute

CUTE

no real plan or idea beyond "smash the system".

literally called alliance to restore the republic

led by former republican senators

hmmmm, what might their idea of a post imperial state be?

starting to see why they lost

Rebels look a lot cooler than the Imperials tbqh.

Yeah. It glows when you jo with a buddy

>hmmmm, what might their idea of a post imperial state be?

Turns out it was fucking nothing

How's that?

quite the contrary, classically educated englishmen - society has shifted too far towards the ill-kempt rifraff and the communication bridge is fracturing.

According to the Mandalorian and the non-canon sequel trilogy "restore the republic" means everybody doing whatever in their own corner of space with criminal enterprises controlling all of the area in between, just like it was before Palpatine started manipulating shit

You WILL apologize for height privilege mogging offense imperial violation standards and you will do it NOW is that understood?

haha
le norte

can the empire win then.
ir's about time. the last was in the tie fighter game in 94

self-determination instead of a tyrannical empire

lmao even in the sequel trilogy they restored the republic and that triggered the rise of the FIRST ORDER hahaha

Ghorman massacre is from an early 90s tabletop RPG

The Empire will "win" in the end of this series, yes.

we ain't talking about that

you brought up the sequels, and even in that they restored the republic

They literally had to pull space magic out of their ass for the Empire to lose.

Which again, means nothing. It's an empty phrase.

thankfully the other anon answered you quite well in my absence.

galaxy turns into criminality and chaos

wow, plan turned out great - at least we have our shiny medals though!
the evidence was already presented in the films and series. they had no plan apart from "smash the system", like a bunch of drugged up, retarded teenagers.
which is likely why:
A. you agree with them
and 2, why you don't see any problem with it.
3..... your own idea

why does this season has this weird teal filter
it annoys me
I hate color correction in modern television and film

Then don't bring it up. Weird way to sink your own argument.

>galaxy turns into criminality and chaos

Yeah thanks to the Empire thinking tyranny could replace law.
Bootlickers can't appreciate self-determination, apparently.

But its all green screen slop anyway

making a film where the empire just wins outright, crushes all the rebel scum and restores order to the universe with luke in charge as the new emperor would or would have been the most popular star wars film they could have made.
showing tactical brilliance, efficiency, squads of storm troopers being valiant, expert tie fighter pilots defying the odds in a shieldless ship against larger opponents, and the triumphant music playing as the new empire unfolds.
everyone is sick to death of the dirty underdog shitting everything up; it's too close to real life

self determination is something that fully existed within the empire. people were free, just not to be chaotic criminals.
it's usually deviants and drug addicts pushing for "self determination" as a byword for chaos so their pukeish behaviour goes unnoticed in the midst of it.
you know that's true for you, so don't try to dodge it.

lmao you can't even say "there is such a thing as objective truth" now without chuds getting triggered and accusing you of blaspheming Drumpf

buttmad prequelcel projecting hard

Shut up you idiot fucking faggot. "Restore the republic" doesn't mean self-determination it means everyone lives at the whims of cartels and gangs. It means the Pikes and the Hutts are in charge. Shut the fuck up. You're a delusional retard.

self determination is something that fully existed within the empire

lol did you even watch season 2?

Shut up you idiot fucking faggot

Calm down, bootlicker. Your side lost, watch the movies. Cope :3

You're a jew

Says the one advocating a cult of (((Sith))) running the galaxy from behind the scenes and making humans blow up human planets

Nice try.

You are a jew

Yeah, you already tried that one, Moishe lol

Palpatine's master was literally from the (((banking clan))) species lmao

Better to see a planet destroyed than to be part of that sick Incel brainwashing jedi cult that is tormenting women across the galaxy. Did you read what that one Jedi did to a princess? AND THERES MORE!
I hear they take young children away to a Waco cult "training academy" where they are told not to love their families, and to obey the "council" without question.
Some little green frog keeps telling people what to do and then says "the magical force" tells him to sleep in the beds with the young frog girls.
I hear they turn a blind eye towards women being enslaved, and even raped, and when good men stand up to fight back against the ugly brown rapists, they try to kick them off the council.
That's what I hear. The empire supports feminism and will finally do something about slavery and sand people rape. And what is more important of an issue hmm?
*sips tea*

self determination is something that fully existed within the empire

Andor season 2 opens with the Empire trying to Jew the Ghormans out of their own planet

top fucking kek

It's weird how the "pro-human" Empire spends its time killing humans, stealing from humans and blowing up human-majority planets.
Meanwhile they leave the Hutts alone.

The Jedi order being toothless watchdogs was a liberal fantasy; the galaxy should be ruled by the force sensitive firmly but benevolently.

the galaxy should be ruled by a psuedo-religious minority that believe they're special/chosen

yeah that's the conservative fantasy, brought to you by the (((banking clan)))

haha you're Leia but you changed your name to Kelya, you clever girl

Syria was just beyond saving. And he got too close to the wrong people. And low-and-behold those people used and abused him.

Even if Dedra cared about him. It doesn't matter, because the end result is that she did what she did. And it cost Syril his life. This is what happens when you don't communicate effectively and keep people out of the loop, while trying to play the world's most dangerous game. It's all just such perfect writing.

The crystal I wear around my neck contains an essence that gets recharged when I jack it with a bro who also has a crystal. It gives me confidence at work, home, social situations, etc. Nobody knows it's a JO crystal but me and my bros. I have seen it glow white while jerking it with a bud thats how I know this is real. You can come over for as long as you want but I need a picture of you preferably wearing a crystal before I waste my time.

syria was just beyond saving

:/

Wrong. The galaxy needs to be an anarcho-sydicalist commune with authority rotating on a bi-galactic percentage rotation amongst evenly distributed executive officers chosen randomly amongst tri-refreshing pools of eligible nerf herders. It's basic economic theory that no one bothers to see is just sitting there, waiting

Calibrate your enthusiasm

The force is not a belief it is a reality and having the gifts of foresight and the ability to control the weak-minded, or be immune to that control, is exactly what makes them the best for the job.

And even then you have fucking Alderaan.

kill billions as a show of force and because of one pain in the ass senator and his daughter

does a bunch of drugs

hey Cassian the Force dude

leaves

Great story arc for Bix Nood

pour trillions of credits and millions of personnel into building honest-to-Force artifical moons, plural, that are effectively just giant guns put to the galaxy's head

BOTH get blown to bits by farmer militias held together by prayer and duct tape, wasting resources that could have went to interplanentary inferstructure or education programs

"i-it was the extinct wizards with the laser swords, guys!"

Typical Imperial apologist

kek the (((banking clan))) really brainwashed you well

Dude, my fucking phone auto-corrected Syril to Syria.

XD

What a fucking useless character. We spent all that time watching her get traumatized and for what? A dumb girlboss scene of her blowing up the torturer and some dumbass speeches to Cassian about how he has to stay in the Rebellion so that he can fulfill his destiny of showing up in Rogue One.

t. assad

Bix is a somewhat weak character. It is what it is. She's human. But this is how you survive if you are weak/unable to cope.

The better question is. Do you think she could have done better if she stayed? Or made better efforts to go on missions? Or to support the Rebellion more actively?

Butt plug

Uncle Harlo will fix that

It's just the star wars equivalent of -eigh or-ayden ending names

People still give a shit.

How much of a dehumanized mindless consumer are you to still care about what Disney shits out?

democracy is flawed because people are stupid

therefore we will somehow select a small group of people to rule by decree and they will be not be stupid anymore because ???

The Empire was doomed to collapse once Palpatine died and he probably would've died on the second Death Star regardless of what Luke and Vader did, since that was really just a sideshow to the ground team on Endor dropping the shield and the strike team blowing the reactor. Palpatine didn't build the system to outlast him. It was going to descend into civil war between the admirals and governors the second they didn't have a common enemy, if not sooner.

season 1 was better

Women are disgusting evil creatures

Hey do you want some DEATH STICKS?

It's better than staying and being a leech/burden on Cassian.

Bix needs therapy and she's playing house with Cassian in the middle of a war/rebellion. He needs to be out there fighting and she needs to be getting treated. So she can contribute again to the war effort. You can't normalize war time environments. If you are at war the worst thing you can do is dick around while your allies are dying. It's basic resource management/economics.

Well apparently she was going on missions offscreen during the timeskips and it seemed like she got her shit together after they killed Gorst. They sure acted like she was competent and useful in spite of all the trauma. But in reality, her character is very nakedly a prop for Cassian. Even in that regard she's pretty superfluous to his development since his "arc" is just him going in circles about how much he's committed to the Rebellion.

If they make Mark Hamill go away then yeah I'll take them

Luke never supported The Empire though. From the moment you see his character in the first film, he expresses how he wants to join up with Biggs and Wedge and be a Rebel Pilot.

It would be nonsensical and completely bad writing if he become The Emperor. Because he never liked the very concept of it in the first place. He fights for his friends and family. And not for the wrong reasons.

He's fucking Duke Laser Master for The Force's sake!!

The Force selected them.

She was a mechanic on Yavin. That's plenty useful for the Rebellion. Where's she going to go instead?

Fucking Space Wizard Cultists... Always, spouting this Force nonsense!!

Wherever she went, lol.

Bix is already gone, dude; Dave's not here anymore, man.

Sounds like current day America.
Which makes it more amazing this was filmed before the election.

She's head ball drainer at Hoth base now

I completely forgot Cinta died from a stray blaster shot. What do you even do with Vel as a character now? She only cared about the Rebellion because Sinta was her dom

That comparison legit makes no sense even if you believe Trump is an evil wizard instead of a mere retard.

Palpatine didn't build the system to outlast him

He did quite the opposite, actually. Operation Cinder was effectively boiling the baby with the bath water. He felt that an Empire that couldn't keep its Emperor alive wasn't worthy of existence, so they tried thier damnest to lay waste as much as they could out of sheer spite

''glow'' is a material

What is glow made out of?

In the trailers there's a shot of Dedra pointing a blaster in Luthen's shop

I'm not sure the writers care at this point. Feels like everything was just building up to Ghorman and Mon Mothma's speech and the characters were just there to fill in the runtime.
Could probably cut this whole season down to a single movie length cut about the Ghorman Massacre and it would actually be decent. Instead we got the bloated, uncut version with all the (rightfully) deleted scenes and superfluous plotlines.

My point is that the Empire was always fucked once the Emperor was dead, with or without him writing "Burn down the house so none of you ungrateful fucks can inherit it" in his will.

Well it was 4 more seasons cut down to 1 which honestly was probably for the best

Ironically, it might've been more tolerable with some more seasons since they could've made the character arcs feel more substantial. At the same time, however, the idea of stretching some of these shitty little arcs across whole seasons just makes me feel tired.

I also don't think anyone involved really wanted to spend that much time doing Star Wars. Didn't Diego Luna say he was depressed about it doing it for 5+ years of his life?

That comparison makes sense but he is wrong. It sounds like current day America not because it is something new, it is because it draws from the same playbook that every facist regime has used.

that doesnt really matter when its explicitly an ontologically evil entity ruled by an ontologically evil voodoo magic old magic evil samurai dude who feeds on ontologically evil magic

End scene will be the beginning of R1, just like the Hobbit led to LOTR.

Might've been Gilroy. But yeah, at the rate they've been going, it's 2-3 years between seasons. Doing the full 5 means the last season might not air until 2034, which is 14 or 15 years just doing one show. Lots more space for shit to go wrong either through meddling, people dying of old age, or current crew just losing their touch. It's ultimately for the best, but it'd be nice if they did some novels/comics to fill some gaps and get Gilroy to just act as a supervisor on them.

Literally this.

she dying

I don't see how it makes sense. If Trump croaked tomorrow, then Vance would take office and nothing would change until the next election cycle, where the Republican party would have an internal struggle and the Democrats would probably snatch up a bunch of seats. I know people are eager to cry fascism, but this isn't what fascism looks like.

I still don't understand the mental gymnastics Gilroy is doing to direct all of this while also saying he doesn't really care about Star Wars

I really want to see it but I doubt they'd wheel in McDiarmid for a 10 second cameo

Money

Does Andor cry a bunch in R1 too? I've only watched the action scenes

they were also TEASING them, accidentally meeting up. The first time Cassian went to Ghor to scout the Rebels, Syril had to leave to report to Dedra. If I remember correctly, it was either on the same day or Cassian went there the day after Syril left.
The second time Cassian came to Ghor, they almost saw each other at the plaza. The third time we had the showdown.
That being said, Dedra should've told Syril the "secret plan" as to why he is actually doing it - their goal is catching Axis/Andor. So the rebels are just bait for a bigger fish.
In that regard, the writing could've been better. It is a missed opportunity but they needed conflict I guess.
RIP Cereal guy :/

Because even if its a slop IP his name is still on it

It was Kreager from the first season. Remember Saw didn't wanna team up cuz Kreager was a separatist. I bet if we had more seasons then that part of the galaxy would've been explored more

Only at the end of the movie

Is Bix pregnant?
She looked very tired in the last episodes despite her being always at home(yeah we don't see what else she does maybe she grinding and fixing for the rebellion but idk)
so my theory is that she is tired from labor and it's taking a toll on her, or her decision to ditch Cassian for the greater good tortures her mentally.
help me anon
captcha 80pyp

Set that Goose Starfighter movie before the ST and you've got a stew going. They really need to just erase the ST

Actually Cassian had a kid the whole time!

Literal Filoni tier writing

its like he is not a complete George's SW fanboy, but he respects the universe and has the balls to make something his own. obv it's money but I think the guy just wants to do a decent job cuz ego

This is Palmo One, the voice of Ghorman. This is Palmo One making an emergency broadcast on all open channels.

This is Palmo One.
This is Palmo One.
We are under siege. We're being slaughtered! The imperial murder of Ghorman has begun. There are hundreds of bodies this moment. As I say these words, hundreds of murdered Ghormen lay dead in Palmo Plaza. Thousands more on the streets, more every minute. We're being destroyed!
This is Ghorman reaching for any open channel that can hear me. If you can- if you can hear me, if you believe in truth, if you have any faith left in truth, please, please mark this message and pass it forward!
This is MURDER!
The Empire built this fire. They made this fire and led us to the slaughter. Now they expect us to die without knowing why.
The conspiracy we feared is real! It's here today! Imperial ships are already landing.

HELP US!
Is there no one who can help us?
Is there no one?

What exactly would be Filoni tier about that?

I KEKd
cmon man, it could be possible. The fact they didn't kill off Bix....WHAT OTHER purpose does the bitch has lol
No way Andor has been shooting blanks all these years KEK

The fact that he's literally done it multiple times

I think anon's referring to the fact Filoni did the same exact thing in Rebels, where Kanan bites it, but Hera gives birth to Kanan's kid after the main events of the show.

I wouldn't be mad if the big, shoehorned cameo is that Kleya is a actually Leia. she kind of looks like her

Varian is fetch

They gave Cad Bane a kid in the most recent thing too. And there's always been speculation that Satine's "nephew" was actually her kid with Kenobi.

Do you guys think Bix is fucking other guys before/after learning Andor got nuked into stardust

Too old
Leia would be 14 at the start of the events of Andor

Yeah but that's Filoni trash. I just cherry pick what I like and don't like from the animated shows

gets nuked into stardust by Operation Stardust

Was that intentional?

She definitely would after, but only because she gets back on heavy drugs and falls deep into being an addict.

How much of a lameass do you have to be to see this story and think it's about America

Putting benis in bagina (unprotected) is a strictly Filoni thing

So this next arc will be them finding out about the Death Star when Andor and the other guy realize they were making parts for it or something? This show could already just end now and lead into R1, I have no idea what this arc could be about

They said Dedra Meero is, at most, 18 years old on the basis of her own dialogue.

How much of a lame ass do you have to be to make shitty AI slop?

He used a condom, you child. What, do you need a wookiepedia page to confirm they have condoms in space?

Yes I do

They don't find out about the Death Star until Rogue One. Next Arc will be the end of Luthen I guess

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It is true that lightsabers are over used in Star Wars. And it is also true that Andor has managed to achieve peak NuWars without the use of lightsabers.

But to say that Andor is the best Star Wars ever is simple recency bias. There is a level beyond what Andor is and that next level beyond Andor NEEDS lightsabers and the force and all of the classic SW tropes to achieve it.

Like sure Andor is a god tier show but it is not better than ANH or ESB or the non-Ewok parts of ROTJ. I don't know if there is anyone alive that is skilled enough to make an Andor type show that includes all of the classic SW tropes but that is what is needed to get to the next level of peak that lies beyond what Andor is

Someone who hasn't seen Return of the Jedi and continues to feed the AI algorithm

Kinda feels like a waste of time when he's already fading into the background as the Rebel Alliance crystallizes. He could've ended up a New Republic glowie and I wouldn't be miffed. In fact, it would be a bit poetic for him to end up a part of the system after all his talk about burning his life for the Rebellion.

I am telling you. The bitch is pregnant. What other purpose does she has now? They didn't kill her off. The woman either dies and serves the protagonist's character development, or is a breeder aka a save point for a protag. It also fits why she left him cuz with the kid, Andor ain't helping the rebellion. He was already DONE with all of it.

She has no further purpose. Leaving him was the last push for Cassian to stick with the Rebellion, because now he has nothing else.

i am telling u guys. She lives in a nice house not like other rebel plebs, nice weather, and has food, no missions, just helping around fixing stuff.
And yet the bitch looks like she is grinding her ass off 24/7. She didn't look as tired on Mina Rau where they had to work on a damn farm

I don't see how it makes sense.

Then you must be fucking blind

Blatantly ignoring laws

False flag propaganda

Illegal arrest

fair point. Her only purpose is to be pregnant, they should've just killed her off at that point

What makes Bix think that Cassian wouldn't just give up, or worse become so scorned that he became an imperial double agent. Her woman logic is incomprehensible

Because the force healer said so.
Remember its astrology but SW.

Superficial, but keep crying wolf

I can do that, Disney just needs to call me