Andor General

One is a boilerplate flowery political speech which boils down to "Lies are bad."
The other is still being talked about 20 years later because it features two incredibly original characters (Jar Jar and Palpatine) delivering immortal lines that only one man could write. Are you really telling me that when we let truth go by the wayside, we cede the narrative to whichever person yells the loudest? Wow, I've never heard it put quite that way before. These writers are incredible...
This is literally just regurgitating language and rhetoric that you'd have to be a zombie not to have absorbed in some fashion over the past 10 years. Then they put it in the Star Wars show so you'd clap. It's just not original! There should be more than this. And to be clear, the AOTC scene includes basic lines like: "I love democracy. I love the Republic." Yet everyone can hear these lines in their head! That's proof of how well-constructed the scene is on a CINEMATIC basis. Neither scene is great literature, but one thinks it is! These could be perfectly acceptable lines for the purpose of supporting a cinematic narrative, but everyone involved obviously believes this writing is itself the accomplishment. But here I can say objectively, it is neither saying anything new nor saying it in an innovative way. So where am I left with this speech as the centerpiece and, really, only matter of real interest in the episode? If I'm not impressed by the literary qualities of the writing, then I have little else to cling onto aside from how terribly Important it all is.

is just song

and ta ensure tha security an' continued stability, really, it's stable, rock solid, a real solid winner, our stability.....the United States is gonna be reorganized inta tha first AMERICAN EMPIRE! A great empire, the best the world has seen, trust me, its gonna be yuge. For a safe, and honestly, my favorite part, a secure society, its gonna be big, trust me.

that was my very first thought when i saw him but then again im really bad with faces

Why didn't Syril have a breakdown on Ferrix?

Nigga heil Palpatine, nigga heil Palpatine
They don't understand the things I say on twitter
Nigga heil Palpatine.
They don't understand the things I say on twitter
All my niggas Sidious , nigga heil Palpatine
Nigga heil Palpatine nigga heil Palpetine
All my niggas Sidious, nigga heil Palpatine

He did?

The second time I mean

This season must be really shit because barely anyone is talking about it. All I've seen are headlines like "Finally, Star Wars has tackled the topic of rape" and lesbian shit.

The conspiracy we've feared is real!

The conspiracy we've feared: Israel!

"The conspiracy we've feared is real" is is such an unnatural phrasing you will NOT convince me that this wasn't intentional.

And good on the showrunners for slipping it in there.

He might've if Dedra had died then.

But that was another situation where the imperials were just gunning everyone down

because there wasn't warm enza body to spend nights with

Who has the pic of someone pointing a blaster at Filoni coming down an elevator

Jinn, my Stardussy

I don't understand his character arc, it just repeats S1 and S2

syril tripped over his own luggage after being told to turn the lights off, they then had sex on the floor for one hour

NERFHERDER

obvi

The closest thing we have to a real Death Star or Metal Gear is our fleet of nuclear submarines. In the future, once AI drone swarms are sufficiently advanced we might see the return of submarine aircraft carriers (see picrel). Once the two concepts are combined, we will have a true Death Star.

Ian McDiarmid's the king of camp. Jar Jar is a sussy amphibian slapstick artist. Mothma's Cunt Cicero and has to deliver as such, not Ginger Elizabeth Warren appealing to kindergarten ethics in stentorian bromides. And they have the audacity to use non-in universe cursing out of Bail's mouth right beforehand, because he actually has the gravitas expected and established-- and we have to bring the audience's expectations down to the writers' inadequate level for it to remotely land just like having Picard and everyone around him curse like space sailors in the most recent Star Trek slop

I disagree. The purpose of nuclear submarines is primarily as a second strike capability, not a first strike terror weapon. The Death Star is more a metaphorical idea of a terror weapon than a real practical one.

It's like pottery, sort of, they rhyme...... Every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one.... *shrug* Hopefully it'll work.....

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Luuuke is an April fools joke

The only thing poetic about this is that I was vomiting in stanzas

I wish you were drunk.

What were the most kino lines this season?

RIP a real one

who are you?

Simply takes the cake. They even named the episode that

Who are you?

I'm the cook

Cute buttplug andorsisters

who are you?

I'm Jean Valjean

Syril bros... Can Uncle Harlo fix this?

'fraid not

Cassian telling Mon 'welcome to the rebellion' while escaping from the senate building had me feeling feels

I don't get why this "Ghorman massacre" is so hyped up by people. It's just a generic shoot out that has been done millions of times before in media of dissidents being crushed.

Because it's the second Ghorman massacre. In EU shit this event is what gets the Rebels to finally form an alliance instead of being a bunch of individual cells who are shit like the ones in Yavin in the first arc

Finally watched the episodes.

Why the fuck was everyone so fucking hesitant to take a shot all of episode 8? Even if Andor was afraid of the glass, she walked on the fucking balcony and was open to shoot. And then Syril fucking pauses before shooting Andor.

Oh and when Andor wants to leave the planet, THERE'S NO TIME, except when there's time to go pick up the KX unit because we saw it in Rogue One. What an awful way to introduce the character.

That being said these episodes were probably like 7/10. It feels like I'm watching HotD again where the episodes are mostly good except there's always one part that's REALLY fucking dumb.

Andor won't sweep the Emmys but it should. Would anyone rather watch Severance over this if it wasn't associated with Star Wars?

Andor needed a clean shot and if he missed all those people would die for nothing (they died anyway)

cereal didn't shoot Andor right away because the whole arc was him losing faith in his cause

they grabbed K2 seeing the potential in reprogramming it, oh wow, such a plothole

oh and the Mon Mothma speech was kind of lackluster, idk how all the good monologues come from either Saw or Luthen

You don't get a fucking cleaner shot than her looking out on the balcony
Syril killing Andor was personal, it was bigger than supporting the rebellion or empire
you can't be like NOOOOO DON'T GO WILMON WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SAVE YOUR GF and then in the same breath stop what you're doing to go pick up a random droid like a single broken droid is going to turn the tide of the rebellion?

Saw and Luthen are Rebels, Mon Mothma is a politician so her's was more tame

Are we gonna see the Emperor in the finale? I feel like it's necessary

They'd have to find his gf in the chaos, the droid was right there

Gilroy said no Vader because he's too limiting, and no Palpatine because there's too much to set up and do to justify having the character be included since he wouldn't want just a brief cameo-like appearance.

How is it necessary? All he cares about is power and killing Jedi. He probably lol'd hearing about the massacre.

oooh and vader too omg goosebumps

what if the ending shot is on tattooine...!

they NEED to honor peter mayhew too, chewbacca and han NEED a cameo!

stop

Calling it now- Dedra won't die in this series, she'll be promoted to working on the Death Star

That's the general theory, yes

Hopefully Diego Luna has a good career after this. I think he's a good actor

Last scene will be here being Uncle Harlo'd

Lucasfilm: "We'll just just steal some ideas from an anime and nobody will ever know because our fans are like Renaissance fair nerds."

Lucasfilm genuinely doesn't care about this show because it's just typical Gilroy espionage shit that won't matter in whatever shit they're planning

Yet everyone

everyone

Why the fuck was everyone so fucking hesitant to take a shot all of episode 8?

he only had one shot at deedra and aiming with long range scopes in reality is pretty hard.

the whole uprising in Ghorman felt like I was watching Les Mis

Well they pretty much did "Do You Hear the People Sing" in fake space French

also, i think using blasters at such a rain adds another layer of difficulty since they don't seem to be as accurate as real life ballistic weapons and have a longer travel time unless it's a specialized sniper blaster or something. cassian's was just a modular blaster with a scope. it makes sense that the shot would take time to line up.

such a rain

such a range...

I'm pretty sure sleepy annoyed Syril was supposed to foreshadow dead Syril but Gilroy is such a boomer he didn't understand how funny and memeable it is

i heard him getting on the bed like that wasn't planned and he just did that then they kept it in

the grounded and visceral way they portray the officer rapist getting his head clobbered and the subsequent brain trauma with his screaming was crazy good. i think they try to show that his brains are too scrambled to figure out how to even unholster his weapon too

In general, its really cool how brutal this season was. Like the main ghor woman getting absolutely HEEM'd to death by the Droid during the massacre. It's a place that star wars rarely goes. It really sets the stage that this isn't a kids show. There's no space wizard appearing at the last moment to save the day and then make some quip. No comic book revival plot. There's a permanence to the violence that's sobering. Real sacrifice. Heroes that will never be properly honored for what they did.

I think Andor was also a little shook by Syril just getting a headshot

not lines, but expression

not sure but i think that was the first time he saw raw death that close.

At least Gilroy learned how to slow the fuck down when it came to fist fight scenes. Bourne Ultimatum is practically unwatchable

He's one shotted people himself before but maybe seeing someone else do it freaked him out

first time he saw raw death that close

This series opens with Cassian looking a man in the eyes and blowing his brains out.

if he was the writer, that's out of his control. director on the other hand, yeah, i guess he could've pulled the punched a bit no pun intended

cut me some slack, season 1 feels like it was forever ago

oops lol

Now that no one wants to fuck her she's going to go nuts

i think the name-drops are enough. at most, we could get a hologram message from ian mcdiarmid or sam witwer. the empire having countless layers of bureaucracy fits perfectly for this show. so many layers that you'd never see who's really in charge.
i will say that i need some more tasteful reminders that this show's happening in the star wars universe. the high writing quality and subject matter make me forget sometimes.

found dead via autoerotic asphyxiation

Pretty rough instakill, obviously he was going to die in this show but to get shot right when he realized he was working for the wrong side, geez

andor hardly stands on its star wars legs.
is me, and like i said, the show needs to remind me sometimes that this is in the star wars universe. going in, i guess people have a general understanding of the galactic politics at play. still, did anyone really know or care about ghorman before this?

WHO WE CHARGIN OUR KHYBER CRYSTALS TO TONIGHT BOYS

Good morning sir!

Are we the bad guys?

Seems like they're both the bad guys until Luke shows up

Gilroy. Bothans. Six episode limited series.

WASTE THE MOTHER FUCKERS

Literally EU parliament

leaves a hair behind

This is a Bothan hair!

roll credits

I don't think this Is real. They can't be the bad guys.

Dr. Andor, I'm many Bothans

The Rebels basically manipulated and orchestrated a massacre to get more people to join their cause. And yeah the Empire blows up a fucking planet but they both don't seem very good

I think it was the Empire that did the former.

Even after seeing what they did to Ghorman and how Syril began to turn away...

... Why does my literally diagnosed autistic ass still support the Empire?

It’s ridiculous. America NEEDS a Palpatine and this stupid show is trying to portray an actual leader as evil.

America NEEDS a Palpatine

?

because they look cool

Narratively speaking, what was the point of Syril's character?

be working for bad guys

learn bad guys are bad

die immediately

Extremely unsatisfying and frankly cruel. Unless we see Dedra go interesting because of this.

Kek, I fucking love Gilroy.
Bro doesn't care at all and deliver kino anyway.

When Andor was talking to the imperial recruit to become a pilot, and he was asked what his pronouns were and he said ..."I do not know what my pronouns are...." and the imperial officer said
:Well its a simple choice...its an And/Or decision..."

need a prequel about this guy

He was really goof in the Mandalorian.

Star Wars, a communist Hungarian story

The show is so bad, you can tell hald the actors asked to killed off midway through it.

It reflects the average person working experience in a facist regime. Most don't even realize they are working for the bad guys.

That was antonio banderas

What will our guy Saw "Space Bin Laden" Gerrera do in the last 3 episodes?

That guy doing the arm grab slap thing was great.

Andor has one facial expression.

Getting high on gas

Facism is fucking cool as shit. The empire is goated rest in shit to faggot ghormans and rebels

Because trannys hate them and anything they hate is inherently good

The point of Syril's character is to show how someone that could be a good guy/hero is blinded by the system around him.
Syril was principally driven by justice, he always saw Cassian as a criminal and did everything in his power to arrest him because in his mind, it was the right thing to do. While trying to bring him to justice, we saw him fail and struggling with the consequences, but even at his worst, he tried his best to overcome the system to do the right thing. He simply didn’t understand that the real problem in his life was the very system around him, a system that had always failed him.

When he's in shock during the Ghorman massacre realizing the truth about the Empire, seeing Cassian triggers him because it’s his only way to cope with the situation. He sees Cassian as the devil, everytime he appear somewhere a dramatic event is taking place. In that final moment, when Cassian asks him who he is, he probably realizes that Cassian was just a human who was fighting the system who actually betrayed his trust. That he was wrong all this time, about him and the Empire. We witnessed during a split second of realization the turning point of his life, which was shafted away by the man who suffered the most from Syril's blindness.
With his passion and obsession for doing what’s right and bringing justice, Syril could have been one of the Rebellion’s greatest allies if they had found him in time.

Wait so the death star is just a gigantic light saber?

Perception is everything. Misperception or a myopic perspective is what causes good intention to achieve perverse aims. This is true for all political affiliation.

always was
seriously imagine the death star with a giant laser just sticking out of it, instead of shooting, and the death star slowly turns to slice a planet in half

Why do chuds hate this show?

I don't understand his character arc, it just repeats S1 and S2

S1 reinforces his presconceptions . S2 destroys them.

Syril killing Andor was personal

That got disarmed by Andor not knowing who Syril is. Even his years-long grudge turns out to be one-sided.

Played by Marky Mark

That is by design. His character is portrayed through his eyes. It's also what makes him a good embedded spy -thief-assaassin.

Sex with Mon Mothma

Is Kleya a lesbian?

Why does my literally diagnosed autistic ass still support the Empire?

Alderaan's a statistically meaningless price to pay to physically remove seditious conspirators. EU canon or Disneed-- the Galaxy is imperilled by immanent invasion by Bigger Bads and radically weakened, deviating from Palps' instinct that militarization was required to face it. The Force even ordained it with the Clone Wars because the Republic in that state was unequal to the task.