/Andor/

This is Palmo One, the voice of Ghorman. This is Palmo One making an emergency broadcast on all open channels.

This is Palmo One.
This is Palmo One.
We are under siege. We're being slaughtered! The imperial murder of Ghorman has begun. There are hundreds of bodies this moment. As I say these words, hundreds of murdered Ghormen lay dead in Palmo Plaza. Thousands more on the streets, more every minute. We're being destroyed!
This is Ghorman reaching for any open channel that can hear me. If you can- if you can hear me, if you believe in truth, if you have any faith left in truth, please, please mark this message and pass it forward!
This is MURDER!
The Empire built this fire. They made this fire and led us to the slaughter. Now they expect us to die without knowing why.
The conspiracy we feared is real! It's here today! Imperial ships are already landing.

HELP US!
Is there no one who can help us?
Is there no one?

if this was 2010 I probably could give a fuck you viral milketeer nigger

Why was that fat French guy on the street being belligerent during the heist?

Can't handle his Pinot noir

his need to protest runs so deep in his blood he'll even protest a heist

>This is Palmo One, the voice of Ghorman. This is Palmo One making an emergency broadcast on all open channels.

This is Palmo One.

This is Palmo One.

We are under siege. We're being slaughtered! The imperial murder of Ghorman has begun. There are hundreds of bodies this moment. As I say these words, hundreds of murdered Ghormen lay dead in Palmo Plaza. Thousands more on the streets, more every minute. We're being destroyed!

This is Ghorman reaching for any open channel that can hear me. If you can- if you can hear me, if you believe in truth, if you have any faith left in truth, please, please mark this message and pass it forward!

This is MURDER!

The Empire built this fire. They made this fire and led us to the slaughter. Now they expect us to die without knowing why.

The conspiracy we feared is real! It's here today! Imperial ships are already landing.

HELP US!

Is there no one who can help us?

Is there no one?

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I just wanna see him rest and have a long and fulfilling life. I know it'll happen one day.

'Aime mes peuple.
'Aime ma Ghorman.
'Aime mes chansons.

'Eteste les traitres.
'Eteste l'Empereur.
'Eteste l'Empire.
Simple comme.

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kek

i skipped all scenes with biz, the senator chick, the lesbian chicks. it was a good experience
only women worth watching in the show are the imperial chick and her ex-MiL

My brain was confused hearing something that totally sounds like french without being french

hears coward noises

assumes it's french

Damn, how the fuck am I supposed to watch Star Wars after Andor finishes? It's just never-ending Filoni slop bringing back dead clone wars characters and glub shitto references.

Because they needed to kill off the indian girl and the best they could come up with is having some surly guy start some shit. Please understand, they really needed 4 more seasons to build up this moment.

what if andor reincarnates as revan

I know, right?
We need more Skywalker references instead and plot points about how he wanted to kills his student.

You don't

I don't know, how did you watch Star Wars before? Maybe it's time to wake up and realize you can leave the crib and watch some real sci-fi series instead of this dogshit franchise.

SOMEBODY TELL ME WHO THE FUCK UNCLE HARLO IS NOW!!?!

The racist uncle at thanksgiving

real sci-fi series

Name ONE. It's all low budget slop or high budget slop.

sheev

HAN SINGULAR ACTIVATE!!!

The Expanse

Already seen it and honestly it's garbage after the conflict between Mars and Earth ends. Amazon is cancer and ruins everything it touches.

"what have you sacrificed?"

".....Calm. Kindness. Kinship. Love. I've given up all chance at inner peace. I've made my mind a sunless space. I share my dreams with ghosts. I wake up every day to an equation I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion, I'm damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they've set me on a path from which there is no escape. I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet. What is my sacrifice? I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them. I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude. So what do I sacrifice? Everything! You'll stay with me, Lonni. I need all the heroes I can get."

Faracape

Dark

I loved this scene in house of cards, so good

Hyperion by Dan Simmons
Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
Red Rising by Pierce Brown
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman
The Culture Series by Iain Banks
The Vorkosigan Saga by Lois Mcmaster Bujold.

It's time to outgrow TV and film. Real Sci-fi is only possible in literature.

I enjoyed it but that's old. I love Stargate.

Until a laptop can manufacture 4K HDR OLED 50 fps movies using personal A.I. quantum computers and time limits of 2 hours and budgets are post scarcity.
I am going to make a Dragonlance movie series.

I too love Stargate.

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Ok new drinking game...take one shot for every Bothan!

New season of Star Wars Visions, maybe
Skeleton Crew had very few Gulp Shittos in it, but it is also quite childish.

i just realized andor is literally Jean Valjean (a thief), and Syril is literally Javert (a no gray area law and order cop).

Its literally Space Les Miserables

"Linus, apply a male pregnancy reaction emoji to every post in this thread until they know who I am."

"Right away sir, Siril."

Whatever happened to Fat Bastard anyway?

got depressed and drunk like every working class Scotsman

Download the .ePub/PDF file and plug it into a TTS reader with AT&T natural voices (or the new google AI ones in Calibre) and you can turn any book into an audiobook instantly.
3-4 sessions and I'm done with most books.

Bro, why did Syril do it....? Why did he go back out into the crowd!!?!?! What was he thinking!? Did he really want to join the Ghorman protesters or something??

Is he stupid!? Did he really not understand what the Empire was doing??? All that time. All the coded language he used with his team, while he was on the operation. He really just didn't understand any of it did he? He never knew what Linus wanted. Why he appealed to him. He was an actual good guy trying to be a good cop. That honestly believed in his government and his system. It all makes sense now. Syril was just an hinest idiot that had a good heart, but was too stupid to recognize what was ever truely going on.

AHHHHHHHH SYRIL IS JUST A HIMBO!!!

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Sloppy writing for some overly dramatic slowmo shots

the subtitles also had his name in there

twink Kenobi is more handsome than twink Anakin.

If anyone mentions The Shrike, The Cult of The Shrike, The planet with The Shrike, or anything about The Fucking Shrike I am going to do a live Syril crash out.

it's crazy that the guy who ain't the biggest SW fan literally made great NEW characters in SW universe that add to the story. When show was announced everyone was like who needs this, nobody cares about this guy. Now tho....
Meanwhile the George's meatriding fanboying padawan Filoni, literally destroyed Thrawn as a character who is one of the most interesting characters in EU. I don't remember if Disney made them canon or not, but Filoni fucked up. Ahsoka S2 will be compared to Andor S2 and most fans will turn on Filoni even more lol

is this /swg/?

the Ghorman massacre reminded me of when Ashli Babbitt got killed by the police...

Honestly, while EU Thrawn is objectively far better, Thrawn isn't even the most mishandled legacy character of the nucanon. That would be Wedge. What they did to Wedge in the books and how the continue to shit on stackpole's legacy is far more egregious.

No that's on Anon Babble

What has Wedge even done in Disney canon?
he got into a relationship with Greg Grunberg's character's Mother, and I can't think what else he has done in Disney Star Wars

Yeah poor Wedge, he didn't deserve it. It's just Thrawn has more overall impact and post Death Star No2 we needed a well-written villain.
Thrawn ties into Disney's shitty sequels and they can't even do him right lol

And then said mother leaves him for her magically returned husband. Then he just fucking disappears and does nothing relevant besides a minor appearance in the squadrons game

Why did you link to a Shill YouTuber's video?

cuz faggots like you can't read for more than 5 miunutes

Agreed but

"the guy"

is Tony Gilroy, he literally made one of the best films of all time.

OK this except you go back and watch everything with Mon Mothma who is actually a Top Five Star Wars character who has great acting and backstory, and her speech is amongst the best ever, and you are good.

twitter latches on to Andor

FASCISM

GILROY IS PWNING FASCISM

I HATE ORANGE CHEETO SO MUCH I TOOK SOCIOLOGY AT SCHOOL FACSISM

Gilroy makes ghorman massacre into a Jan 6th parallel

stuff that definitely all happened

Retard.

What does this shit even imply?

Why do you insist on trying to act like trannies aren't disgusting?

i just realized andor is literally Jean Valjean (a thief), and Syril is literally Javert (a no gray area law and order cop).

Its literally Space Les Miserables

Slowpoke. That was obvious as soon as Syril was introduced in season 1.

You're going to die poor because of your genetics :)

Delusional. I've seen people compare it more to Israel/Palestine conflict than Jan 6

Empire wants something

Provoke marginalized people into revolt

Cry victim

Wipe out as many as possible

Go in and get the land/rock

everything is about current day american politics

resistance is WW2 France

plaza massacre is literally independece of India

I hate americans so much.

at least Andor and Syril both >have sex

lol

Ask film twitter, they'll patch you with the correct take

Yeah Expanse was good too

>stuff that definitely all happened

You suck at gaslighting, predditor trannies

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that's not even scifi, it's a thinly veiled soap opera

Society is built on rape

I bet at least one exec choked on his drink when that Gilroy interview came out

the force willing

I think Ghorman SUCKS

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It's a testament to the writing that they present it as a sci fi atrocity by an evil empire, but then you later realise its actually uncomfortably close to many scenarios in real life.

Wow this guy is a real genius

jeezus ledditors needs to be purged en masse

you don't know that
maybe they turn the light off and masturbate for an hour

You'll stay with me, Lonni. I need all the heroes I can get

It's also the reason why he doesn't shoot Cassian at the end of s1: because he's become another hero for Luthen to believe in.

Beginning to think Lonnie might survive now. Luthen and Kleya are going to die, but they might go without revealing their deepest agent as a final fuck you to the empire - and Lonnie might spend the next 2-3 years still hiding out in the heart of the ISB, with no contact to the rebellion in general, but just quietly fucking things up from within while dodging Partagaz's eternal suspicion.

Eventually he'll retire with a harem of twliek dancers on a resort planet and nobody else will know

Thrawn was always a retarded character. It's a "smart character" written by a retard, who doesn't know what smart actually is. So he is just an omniscient Mary Sue.

hmmmmmm, I look at a piece of art, and can deduce your entire military strategy out of it

Fucking embarrassing dogshit. I guess he can look at Mona Lisa and defeat the humanity? Lmao. EU was always completely braindead crap, with the exception of KOTOR 2.

Oh yeah, we haven't seen proper organized terrorist attacks from the rebelion huh...

you don't sound very smart yourself

I hope this is the result too.
Luthen and Kleya sacrificing themselves to help Lonni and keep his cover intact would be a poetic ending after Luthen's speech to Lonni about sacrificing everything in S1

BREATHE THE SPACE GASOLINE FUMES IN MY BOY. WELCOME TO THE REBELLION.

You really think Kleya Klorgana is going to die?

Kino

You can imagine the phone call:

"Hey, Gilroy? I wanna speech like what Stellan got to deliver in S1 , only you know about Saw's motivations. Gimme a speech like that man."

"Ok, Forrest."

Of the main characters we've seen the only survivors are probably going to be Vel (now an intelligence officer on Yavin), Bix (safe on Alderaan...) and B2EMO (farming like Dewey on Space Kansas planet). This is the SW equivalent on Secret Army - most of them will die, rolled up by the ISB in waves of purges/searches. It's only a matter of seeing what they can do before their time comes.

SAW GOT THAT SUPPLY OF SPACE COPIUM KEK
can somebody make saw pepe :/

stuff that definitely all happened

Are you implying that these stuff doesn't happen in real life?

getting some real French politics vibes from this joint

WHY AREN'T HATERS HATING IT

ignore the fact that people have wanted decent writing (even though season 2 is rushed as hell)

IT MUST BE BECAUSE THE LEAD IS MALE

THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ACTIVATED BY FOX NEWS

how are these mongrels real? are these even first worlders? or is it just third world teenagers desperately trying to participate in modern American metropolitan faggot culture to feel cultured and progressive?

Makes me think of an epic idea for the last ten or fifteen minutes of the show - a montage showing how each of the surviving characters die, including some of them ending up living to an old age.

In particular I'd like to see Bix end up surviving the whole entire thing, she dies after the sequel trilogy. (and she's Starfighter's mom)

Just your typical modern ""progressives""
They are walking caricatures

Won't happen

cultured and progressive

Nothing in this show is progressive. What the fuck are you smoking? Unless you think not wanting to be oppressed is somehow a "progressive" thing.

Gonna have to fit Omega in there somewhere too.

Guaranteed survivors:
B2EMO
Mon Mothma
Vel
Bix
Wilmon?
Lonnie Jung?

Already dead:
Marva
Brasso
Tay Koma
Dr. Ghorst
Cinta
Syril Karn

Definitely deader than flares/known to die later:
Luthen Rael
Kleya Marki
Dedra Meero
Cassian Andor
K2SO
Jyn Erso
Saw Guerra
Wilmon?
Partagaz? (on the Death Star?)

Wilmon 100% dies. He is there to be the guy who does too deep into the cause.

At first I thought he was one of those falseflaggers dependable to do the wrong thing, but now I got nothing

On a scale from The Apprentice to Andor, where does Ahsoka fall?

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Posting decade old tweets

I'd say a very low chance of a montage ending.

But Bix surviving is like a 75% shot, and somehow tying into Starfighter maybe like 25% shot.

execute order 67

montage of everyone dying

mhm

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Are you implying that these stuff doesn't happen in real life?

Yes never forget the 6 nontillion undocumented refugees that were jailed for no reason at all

Okay. We get your point. Simply don't watch Andor then.

A big disappointment of Andor is that the overriding impression I get of Mon Mothma is "neurotic" and "operationally impotent." It seems like all she does is get pushed around and dictated to by Luthen. Then suddenly she gets a Big Speech and is promptly whisked away to Yavin. It's a symptom of a larger problem with this show which is that if you stop and think about it, very little of the mechanics of the ascent of the Rebellion is substantially dealt with. For a show about the politics of revolution, the Rebellion is a rather ethereal entity.

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>Already dead:

Kino Loy

very little of the mechanics of the ascent of the Rebellion is substantially dealt with

She was providing the money, they spent her entire fucking arc on this.

why are chuds okay with politics when its not shoehorned and actually well written without blue haired trannies????

they spent her entire fucking arc on this.

they did???

Clearly not as you see plenty of seething in this thread, like here

my nigga Kino is alive ALIVE and we're going to see him again on Tuesday

that's deliberate, she becomes a figurehead because she is already in the political system, brave and willing to make sacrifices but in need of guidance and support. NOT because she's a hyper-competant chess master. her characterization and route to getting involved in the Rebellion make perfect sense, it avoids all the girlboss pitfalls.

Kino lives you fool, he said he's back

"operationally impotent."

honestly I'm not sure what the fuck **Luthen** does to help the Rebellion, less than her as far as I can tell.

I want a kino scene of Kino with Saw desu

Krennic-chan cute

how are these mongrels real?

they never broke the conditioning

are these even first worlders?

unfortunately

He's the one who recruited Lonni. He's the one who set up their safehouses, his antique store is the central communications center of the whole first 14 years of the rebellion.

And what do (You) subsidize?

DPC. Lust & Passion. ICSTOR. Kompas Productions. I've given up all chance at a balanced checkbook. I've made my mind a stockless space. I share my creams with gobs.

I wake up every day to a Patreon I wrote 15 years ago from which there's only one conclusion: I'm doxxed for what I do. My account, my donors, my unwillingness to yield curve, my eagerness to type, they've set me on a path from which there is no money. I yearned to be a subber against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any pounds beneath my feet.

What is my subsidization? I'm condemned to use the tools of payment processors to defeat (((them))). I burn my dollars for someone else's future. I burn my waif to make a stock rise that I know I'll never see. And the donors that started this fight will never have a mirror or an audience or the light of gratitude.

So what do I subsidize? Everything!

Stellan Skarsgård as Luthen Rael, "Andor"

yes but what does HE do lol
you just described his backstory

What the fuck are you talking about?

Luthen and Kleya have been running the intelligence operations on the capital world. As time has gone on and Mothma/Tay's fundraising/cash funneling operations began to make ground and build the rebellion they've become just a part of the whole rather than the main focus. This and the next episodes are where we get to see the rebels switch from isolated groups of mongs and become the genuine military threat they appeared to be in the original movie. Luthen will get left behind or used up in this changeover, as does Saw's group (because he couldn't make the mental adjustments required to join up)

It should end with the ISB clearing out the Senate after the Emperor abolishes it.

the rebellion is already getting going when Cassian joins. it's not clear what Luthen is up to during most of the timeframe of the actual show, most of his scenes are him showing up to check in with other characters.

They're an accurate rendering of the zeitgeist

the rebellion is already getting going when Cassian joins. it's not clear what Luthen is up to during most of the timeframe of the actual show, most of his scenes are him showing up to check in with other characters.

Because he's the one who coordinated all of that and his function is keeping them in the network are you fucking retarded?

What kind of rebel are you?

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KX-series security droid.

Andor : Armoured against Blaster fire
Rogue one : killed by one blaster shot to chest

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Neo-Republican, but Palps was right about the Jedi.

they really need to force Gilroy to steal that movie for himself and make a gilroy cut, maybe even do some reshoots.

I agree they shouldn't have rushed the timeline of s2, but her being characterized as neurotic and with barely any wiggle room makes perfect sense. She's part of the high society, a very visible figure, meaning she's essentially living hostage every waking moment. Recall the scene where she scoffs over her husband complaining about a year's worth of insincerity crammed into three days

the ones in rogue one came out of the factory wrong

Place your bets if Luthen is going to be revealed as a Jedi or not.

the emperor forced the factories to be only on coruscant and the americans didnt know how to build them correctly for some time.

he'll be some church of the force bullshit instead, like the old guy that was introduced then killed at the start of TFA

Luthen gets revealed as always having been an antiques dealer. He is just super-pissed at the Empire as it destroyed some priceless historical artefacts.

Luthen will be revealed to be the son of a distant clone of Sheev

Probably weathered and compromised after years of less-than industry standard maintenance
Imperial grade blasters

he might be a "grey" Jedi that survived undetected only because they lost most of their powers for losing his interest in balance in the aftermath of order 66.

>Rogue one : killed by one blaster shot to chest

He has taken about a dozen fucking hits by the time he goes down

exactly, idk what the guy is smoking. she literally got super drunk at the wedding, trying to "dance her problems away" cuz she is fucking TRAPPED! She knows her days are numbered, the actress showed that perfectly in the dance scenes.
saw just wants that space copium lol. good point tho.
KEK true. maybe that 1-shot blaster was more powerful who knows. too lazy to torrent rogue one and check the difference in blasters.
it won't happen lol.

there was like two other kx droids besides k2 in the movie, on jedha and scarif