1 thunderbolts popcorn bucket with extra butter coming right up

What advantage does that have? None. It's just a different way of doing something, not smarter nor dumber.

Poor bait

So people don't go to the cinema to watch movies anymore, they go to collect popcorn buckets?

mutts do apparently

Holy shit you fucking retard

the fucking irony and stupidity in your reply holy shit

t. failed maths

those sharp metal edges

I don't like blood in my popcorn.

lol how fucking fragile are you?

Schizo post...

You add the sales tax percentage onto the subtotal for the grand total

...why not directly show the 'grand total' tho?

Math is pretty easy, you'll always see a sticker price and a discount price next to it. With taxes, it ends up adding up to the sticker price

Is it stupid? Yes. Does it make any real difference or inconvenience in our lives? No

for some reason

yep, there's just no way to know. no one will ever know, in fact. there's simply no way to gather this kind of information.

but actually unironically.

Different states have different sales tax. It calculates the right one when you put your address.

Hey mutts here an idea. how about you just show half the price of the item? The number will be smaller so its easier to read and it doesnt really matter since its basic maths. What are you too fucking stupid to do x2 in your head?

So you can see the actual price of the good

You find basic arithmetic with a calculator too difficult but you're accusing others of being stupid?

actual price of the good

do mutts really walk out a store after paying $100 + $50 tax + $10 fee + $10 tip and think to themselves "But ACTUALLY it was only $100"

Holy shit are you stupid

how you can read my post and come to the conclusion that the point Im making is about the complexity of the calculation is beyond me. Genuinely retarded.

That's $170. See? Not difficult.

I fucked your mom 2 times plus 1 time for tax

the right one

there is no "right" tax. bankers convinced american settlers to kill bongs for doing this very thing.

no no no I only paid $100 (actual literal price of the good)

It’s upside is that if you make a playstation account in Oregon you get vidya tax free

But its not the actual price of the good... Lets say you buy a banana: if you want just the price of only that banana you'd have to exclude processing, transportation and all the added costs of running a store included in the final price of the banana. Not including one element (sales tax) is fucking retarded.

Sounds like communism

Wait wait wait, so when mutts were complaining about a packet of eggs being $8 the eggs were actually $12 + tip? Why dont they just say so? Were they ashamed or something?

haha we do WACKY thing cause we are le MERICA xD

*puts on le cool guy shades

*country is overrun by jews and niggers*

Do you, by any chance, watch Ben Shapiro and drink blackrifle coffee?

Sounds like autism

europoors think sales tax is 50%

pottery. they pay their VAT like good little cucks but don’t even realize it because it’s already on le pricetag

holy moron

You desperately need stronger consumer rights groups.

you should be in jail for this anti semitic post

I'll never understand how every just accepted taxes. They were literally not a thing before the world war and were supposed to disappear after that but they didn't and they just kept adding more shit and no one said a word. Imagine someone picking up your wallet after you get paid and yanking half your cash out and shouting "tax" at you, you would fight that fucking asshole, wouldn't you?

tree of liberty, etc, etc

Not including one element (sales tax) is fucking retarded.

Why? Is the math too difficult for you?

Alright. What's the problem?

is that really the only argument to defend that dumb system

I can do math, but i'd rather not cause im lazy and i just want to buy fucking cornflakes. And what if there is a 30% discount and a "buy 3 get a 4th one for free" action? Shit gets complicated pretty fast... The extra step is just unnessesary

This shit is discrimination against all lazy and stupid people (and there are a lot of those) I'm calling the ADF

Each individual state has different taxes. It's why New York pays higher than Ohio.

but i'd rather not cause im lazy and i just want to buy fucking cornflakes

You're in luck: they do the tax calculation at the register. No need for you to figure it

is that really the only argument to defend that dumb system

It also allows the consumer to see how much the items actually cost and how much tax they pay. This keeps cities, counties, and states from jacking up their sales taxes too much, because people notice that right away. If you're a servile Yuropoor, applies.

mongoloid burgers ITT defending yet another jewish scam designed to trick them

You mongs deserve living like this. Used to feel sorry for you. Not anymore.

Yours is on the house of course, Anonymous.

Heck, tell em' ol' Rob said to throw some crab legs on there, too, friend.

Heh, thanks Robert!
You really are one of the good ones, ya know?

It also allows the consumer to see how much the items actually cost and how much tax they pay

Are you legitimately stupid? Like diagnosed by a professional? I'm not even joking anymore, I'm genuinely asking.
(Just show the final price on the price tag and then, UNDER IT, in a smaller font, show the tax percentage. Mongoloid. My god, you're actually trisomic, aren't you?)

Ah jeez dood

show the tax percentage

Most people already know the tax percentage in the city & county where they live, you can just ask a cashier what it is if you're not sure though. Mine's 7%

Maths

British English should be erased from the earth

one collectable popcorn bucket, please

ok, here is a normal bucket of popcorn and half a plastic limo

what the fuck am i watching

Americans still haven't got rid of tipping so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price. Just give up em them like the rest of the world has bro. They are literally unsaveable.

Americans still haven't got rid of tipping so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

What?

Holy shit what a Reddit thread

12 or mentally handicapped
you decide

These things are just the current meme. Hunks of useless plastic that idiots will buy just to say they did.

so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

What?

I tried to buy an iPhone there and got the checkout and it added hundred of dollars in taxes to the price.

The highest sales tax in the entire country is like 10%, and that's only in a handful of counties out of thousands. The vast majority of the country has sales tax between 6-8%. A $1000 item would have LESS than $100 added to it in the majority of the country, even in California or New York.

Just think how many misunderstandings there are when discussing prices with americans.

The most misunderstandings I hear come from Europeans who whine about their prices for games and movies being higher than the US and how it's "discrimination" or whatever, but then if you remove the 15%+ sales taxes from the European price it's the same base price as in the US.

trump tariff

on what? it's popcorn. There's corn in america, you know?

You think that cheap chinkshit popcorn vessel is made in America?

definitely mentally handicapped. I swear you could say 2+2=4 and an american would say
"YEAH BUT NOT WHEN ITS 2+1 !!! THATS 3 NOT 4 !!! WHYD YOU EVEN BRING 4 UP IN THE FIRST PLACE?"

shut the fuck up

The price before taxes and tips IS the real price. Taxes are assessed by and paid to the government, tips are paid directly to the workers at the customer's discretion. The price BEFORE tax and tip is the ACTUAL price that the business has set for the item and represents the money that will be going to the business.

Theater Funkos, if you will.

you mad bro?

so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

What?

needing an exact number presented to you instead of knowing your local sales tax due to civic involvement and computing it in your head due to an actual education

even if you had a real dad, he wouldnt be your real dad.

Ok but what do you mean by

so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

?

im not that anon. I understood it ok but dont feel bad, you are american after all. maybe this will help you:
so even if they showed the "real" price it wouldn't be the "real" price

I think produce, meats, eggs and milk are all tax free. Only processed foods have a tax on them.

Wait, youre telling me that when Americans buy something for $9.95, its not actually $9.95 because they have to add additional tax and tip on top of that?
WHAT THE FUCK?

so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

What?

listing 50 different prices on an ad

Euros, we know you're a little retarded but this is really just too much.

im sorry for your loss

In his addled Europoor mind, the "real price" is the price PLUS tax, because he doesn't understand the difference between the price of an item and the tax collected by the government over top of that price. He also thinks we tip electronics store cashiers, so he believes the REAL-real American price would be the price plus tax PLUS tips. His sentence could be rephrased like this:

Even if they showed the [price+tax] it wouldn't be the [price+tax+tips].

don't say shit like that or they'll get mad

living in constant fear of Americans getting upset

Based battered wife

Is it true you guys dont get any holiday and if you do take holiday it comes out your pay check? Is it also true that youre all fat and gay?

so?

We call them vacations, Muhammad El-Shabazz Longsmith.

using a canadian name

you don't need 300 poppedcorns you can have 20

We call them vacations

have you ever taken one of these "vacations"? where did you go?

entertaining thread

What does

so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

mean?

Yes, if I buy a $9.95 item at the store, the government levies a sales tax of 6.25%, so I end up paying $10.57 in total. It helps us keep separate the price of goods versus the taxes imposed on us by the government. In addition, sales tax varies from state to state and further from county to county within those states, so companies don't have to print literally 3,000 (the number of counties in the US) different versions of marketing materials to adjust the price for each county's sales tax across the country, nor do stores operating in multiple states, counties, or nationwide have to put out different price tags or adjust their own marketing materials county-by-county. It's not like Europe where the entire country has the exact same tax rate.

So you can't add the tax on the sticker price because the total depends on location

you may never know

Is it true you guys dont get any holiday and if you do take holiday it comes out your pay check?

No, once you get a real job that isn't minimum wage slop, every company offers paid time off. We don't have government-mandated PTO for all jobs, so the really low level jobs like McDonald's and Wal-Mart workers don't get paid for their time off, but I've never had a single REAL job where I didn't get plenty of PTO. My current job gives me 5 weeks worth of PTO.

It helps us keep separate the price of goods versus the taxes imposed on us by the government

Why would this matter for the end consumer?

consume 99% more oil

use 69% more electricity

Uh, based department?

Yes, San Diego. Visited Sea World and went Kayaking.

I'm beginning to think you made a bad argument and you can't support it

I think this is an appeal to the bug men who love collecting garbage like that. If the bug men didn't get a little trinket or toy, they'd just watch it at home. The theaters know this so they offer them a little trinket to get em into the cinema to spend money.

man you guys will do anything as long as it fucks the average joe over

so customers constantly have to make some mental gymnastics to get an idea of what price they will pay so big corporations don't have to make different price tags and marketing materials
sounds great

go see Minecraft

laugh at adults buying the popcorn buckets

week later go see Star Wars Episode III

buy the popcorn bucket

gay popcorn bucket

schizo screams about jews

lol

im not that anon kek. Im beginng to think your brain cant support your understanding of the argument.

It keeps everyone acutely aware of how much tax they're paying, which keeps them informed for when tax hikes are on the table for voting. The number of Europeans I've talked to who literally don't understand the difference between the price of goods and the taxes levied on those goods is staggering. If an item costs the same base price in the US and Europe, the Europeans will just look at the total with-tax cost and blame the companies for charging so much more than in the US. They don't even think to blame the government for the high taxes inflating the price. Since the taxes are just lumped into the price, the government gets away with much less blame despite being directly responsible for the inflated prices.

did you tip anyone while you were there?

so customers constantly have to make some mental gymnastics to get an idea of what price they will pay

People carry calculators with them now. Before that you could estimate or use pen and paper if you really wanted to

It also allows the consumer to see how much the items actually cost

Why would this matter to anyone

But the store is in a fixed location, they know exactly how much tax will be added when you scan that item so why isn't it on the sticker price?

Explain what you meant by

so even if they showed the real price it wouldn't be the real price

It keeps everyone acutely aware of how much tax they're paying, which keeps them informed for when tax hikes are on the table for voting.

do americans really need a constant reminder how high their taxes are? here in europe we have something called consumer protection. you should try it some time.

americans like to pay X amount for goods/services and then delude themselves into believing they paid Y amount.
Delusion is a proud american pastime.

lol retard you’re ignoring something that even reservoir dogs was smart enough to consider… tipping. Changes the entire equation.

Other day I got a $35 haircut but I paid $50 because the girl did a good job. Why is that custom ingrained in me? Well… whenever I didn’t tip growing up my dad would find out about it and I’d have to endure a Tony Soprano lecture about how it reflects on the family and in this family we over-tip.

Much as it might blow the euro mind our entire economy is based around that concept. Most poor/middle class people work in the service industry and they survive by being “tipped out” which means potentially receiving half your salary through tips given by rich people.

That’s how ten million mom and pop restaurants survive in America.

Why would this matter to anyone

so why isn't it on the sticker price

Already explained more than once itt

If every company had to produce unique marketing materials 3,000 times over to make the prices accurate for every single county then it would make the products that much more expensive to account for that overhead. That would also fuck the average joe over.

We don't need to put THAT much thought into it. My sales tax rate is 6.25%, it's pennies on the dollar, and so easy to account for without even doing the specific math every time. It's not like Europe where the sales taxes make everything 25% more expensive and radically change the cost.

Already explained more than once itt

it hasnt been explained once

here in europe

*Russia

do americans really need a constant reminder how high their taxes are?

Yes, so we know the exact effect of them being raised or lowered. It's good to have that baseline mental understanding.

here in europe we have something called consumer protection.

What do you mean by "consumer protection" and what does it have to do with the amount your government is taxing you? Does this "consumer protection" prevent the government from ever changing the taxes or what?

You think all those price tags at walmart are printed at walmart HQ and sent to every store in the country?

those forced "cute" tics

why do women do this, it's fucking cringe

It has

then it would make the products that much more expensive to account for that overhead

so its so much of an inconvience to the billion dollar conglomerates that it justfies them not doing it, but its not an inconvience to you the consumer and youre OK with it?
you sound like a faggit kek.

price tags

Post you're replying to said marketing materials, not price tags

What do you mean by "consumer protection"

part of their responsibility is to prevent dirty tricks that affect the end consumer like advertising a false price.

...not

Same argument applies now justify it or else the billion dollar company might cry :(

We don't have one tax rate, it's different in every county. There are more than 3,000 counties in the US.

We have nationwide companies that have to advertise in thousands of different counties, all with different tax rates. They would have to print thousands of versions of their marketing materials, make thousands of edited TV and radio commercials, and so on to account for the prices being different in every single county due to variable tax rates.

The majority of our stores are national chains that centrally produce all their signage and price tags, once again they would have to separately produce each one THOUSANDS of times to adjust them all for the different sales taxes in every county.

It makes the most sense to just put the base price on all the signage and then allow the cash register to automatically calculate sales taxes based on location.

The company can centralize its marketing operations instead of having someone at each store doing it, saving money for the consumer

One ticket for m-minecraft the movie and uhh uhh.. uhh one b-big j-jumbo sized p-pocorn *BAKAWKK*

Anon? Did I just hear a Hen?

N-no NO of course not Robert, I would never.

not my problem

pls let it be thick beer

...Lane?

Give Anonymous a thorough patdown with...the chick-o-finder..

Yes, marketing materials are centrally produced and nationally distributed. Are you retarded? If they had to design and print marketing materials with different prices for every single county, the cost of creating and distributing those materials would skyrocket and those expenses would be passed on to the consumer with higher prices.

Euros are the sharpest bunch. look at their current situation. they will soon be under complete sharia law. totally deserved.

...not been explained

b-b-but the poor poor old Target/Apple/McDonalds would have to do work!

kek.

my dad buck broken me so I tip now so low income whites can never get a raise

...on OPPOSITE DAY

R-robert no! Please.. No! We've known eachother for so long I-

Do you not understand that the extra work directly translates into higher prices at the store? They're not going to just eat the cost out of the good grace of their charitable hearts, or even produce fewer marketing materials. They would simply raise prices to pay for it all. How can you people be this retarded?

do americans really need a constant reminder how high their taxes are?

This is such a bizarre concept to me. In my country the price is what it is with the tax already applied and ive never had an issue with it all my life.

or they could write a script to change the numbers for every county accordingly and send the needed version. THEY SEND THE MATERIALS ANYWAY WHAT'S THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE IT HAS TO BE PRINTED AND DELIVERED ANYWAY.

it's XXI JUST USE SCREENS, YOU CAN PUT ANY NUMBER ON THEM FOR FREE

Youre talking about an hour of work at most. Its Ctrl+F and replace. Realistically they would just automate the price changes across all digital ads. It would take me 1 day at most to put that code together and then it would require 0 manual intervention.
You are fucking retarded.

In my country the price is what it is with the tax already applied and ive never had an issue with it all my life.

That's the point, to make you unaware of the level of taxation and thus uncaring about it. Congrats on falling for it

now every banner, poster, and price tag is a wifi-enabled tablet

surely THIS won't cause price increases!

Europeans are so FUCKING STUPID.

or they could write a script to change the numbers for every county accordingly and send the needed version.

They don't need to do that at all by using the current system

It says how much the sales tax is on the item in yurope aswell. They just did the math for us. Is the american education so abyssmal that you practice math in the grocery store?

Falling for what? I understand we pay taxes, all countries do. I dont need a reminder everytime I buy something.

holy shit you are fucking dumb. this retard thinks physical ads are all created in one centeral location and shipped out all over america. No retard. They send the digital copies to the local advertisers and they print and distrubute them locally. Jesus fucking christ.

and you dont need a toilet if you shit in the street. dumb nigger.

Here in jewrope we print the costs on the top or bottom of the shelf so each store can decide what sales price they want instead of straight on the box. You could do that aswell, desu.

Calm down Ivan. You will never be a real country but that's your own fault not ours.

Euros can't calculate percentages and add them to a price

this means Americans are poorly educated and bad at math

The absolute depths of this cope, holy fuck.

I miss chuck oils, a lot more bang for your buck

Getting crab legs without working in the popcorn mines

You're a real high roller, huh?

The worst part is that we're all being fucked over like this, wether you're a americoon or evropoor. Don't start me on the other parts of the world.

Who's Ivan?
Also I dont want to be in a country where you have to be constantly reminded youre paying taxes everytime you buy something by not having the tax in the price advertised. How completely and utterly pointless lol.

you lost. Now give me your cheese burgers (+ tip)

Can't

We can but why should we? Rather have a quick shopping experience and do some easy arithmetic in my head instead of pausing by each item to do the math in your head or using the calculator on your phone. Do you like spending more time in the store or something? I thought you guys wanted to get to your hustle instead of doing math (for free) in every shop.

pausing by each item to do the math in your head or using the calculator on your phone

Something that absolutely no one does.

Oy vey, I am just the first poster you responded to and I am a Swedistani on my way to blow u.... to the mosque. Salam alaikum

Not sure what youre on about schizo. Take your meds.

Beats serfdom

So Americans really just expect to pay an extra 30% on top of everything to cover taxes and tips everytime they go out? That's wild.

How does a country work without taxes? How does the government then pay for stuff?

LMAO what is this thread? Foreigner seethe containment?

idk mane just fuck taxes alright? I don't wanna pay them...

Im guessing this is why Americans love credit cards. It all makes sense now.

Curious how much of this thread is Americans provoking other Americans. Some of these accusations and ideas about how US sales tax work seem too retarded to be from non Americans. They're too deliberately ignorant.

Your war of independence was literally started over taxes you tard

Sales taxes are less than 10% in even the most expensive counties in the country (most are 5-8%). Tips are only paid to restaurant servers and bartenders, I stick to 15% for that at most.

You already have to plan to pay even more than that when you go out, you just consider it part of the price. You're still being charged 20%+ taxes and inflated food prices to cover higher wages for the servers and bartenders.

you just consider it part of the price

But not considered part of the price tag? kek.

Are there any american states that include the tax in their prices? Or does every state not do it?

Mr Shekelberg thanks you for paying his workers

Are there any american states that include the tax in their prices?

No, it's not a requirement anywhere. There are some small businesses that do it sometimes, but it's very rare. There are a couple states that have no sales taxes at all, though.

don't include in the price to begin with

Because sales tax varies by state and county. Its not a flat percentage.

Yeah this happened to me as a kid buying candy in the states. Had to put stuff back :(

There are a couple states that have no sales taxes at all, though.

Wait, WHAT?

New Hampshire

0% tax

Live Free or Die

based

Didn't know the cash registers exist in more than one state

that's The American Way

Its usually offset by higher income or property tax.
I live in texas which has no state income tax, but if you own land you get fucked on that.

implying you can ever obtain these popcorn promotional things

every time they're all gone, even on thursday night premiers. the staff take them all and resell them

the staff take them all and resell them

Based consoomermaxxers

*shows u my Kinoplex platinum card*

pays for its self after you watch Captain Marvel 141 times, friend, tell ya that!

very burgerpunk post

The cash registers calculate the tax at the point of sale, which is a lot different from customizing all the printed materials.

Also, I decided to look up the actual number of sales tax jurisdictions in the US. It turns out that in most states, it goes down even further than the county level, so there are actually 11,000 different sales tax jurisdictions that have variable sales tax rates, not just 3,000. This means that there could be counties where multiple stores in different towns or even in different parts of the same large city could have different sales tax rates they have to account for. They couldn't even just do it on a per-county basis, they'd have to customize and distribute separate materials for different stores in the same counties, and that's to say nothing of how TV and radio advertising would even work.

There's no reason why the price tags can't include the tax even if you want to die on the muh marketing materials hill when they can just as easily have "does not include tax" written on them like they already do

I know no one is actually going to use that to eat popcorn out of, but is that made out of tin or something? It looks like it'll cut your hands if you don't handle it properly.

Why in god's name would you have it open at the side instead of the top
How am I supposed to drive this around my desk making brrm brrm noises, it's only got half its fucking wheels

Then you run into the problem of people wondering why the price in-store doesn't match the price on the ad. If you're already going to exclude the taxes for all materials except the price tag on the shelf, it makes more sense to go ahead and make the price tag match everything else.

THEY ALREADY DON'T MATCH

What a mental fucking system

20 states no problem

20 states some work(if any)

10 states lots of different tax rates

it's just sloth, lazy companies, lazy workers, lazy customers

All the materials, ads, and price tags DO match each other because they all show the price of the item. The sales tax is added at the register as an additional, separate charge based on a percentage of the subtotal.

I've noticed that a lot of stores do have e-ink digital price tags now. I guess the idea is to have wagies do nothing but stock the shelves.

They still don't list the price with taxes, though. I live in a part of leafland where it's 13%.

when they can just as easily have "does not include tax" written on them like they already do

Then there's no point in changing

They control the currency and have the monopoly on violence.
They'll find a way to self-finance.

it would be impossible for us to come up with some kind of unified sales tax system for the whole country

Income tax? Yeah no that's just one federal rate for everyone

I live in a part of leafland where it's 13%.

Wow

I used to shop in a county with a 9% tax and I felt gypped to the extreme paying that

The ideal tax system is
0% tax up to a million dollars
80% tax over a million dollars
prove me wrong

We don't want a unified sales tax system because it will mean increased sales taxes

The craziest shit to me is that the tax is pre all my expenses. Why do corporations get a write off on all expenses, but individuals need to make sure their post tax covers ALL expenses they have.

They provide for profit goods and services, or they receive voluntary donations from citizens who believe in them

Why do corporations get a write off on all expenses

But they do take that tax from you and give it to the boot

That is a pretty sweet popcorn bucket. I wouldn't throw a fit over $50 for it.

some states have zero tax on produce.
some states have a low 1.5% sales tax on produce.
enjoy your VAT

It literally says the taxes on your receipt every time in Europe kek
A short glance at the tiny piece of paper will tell you exactly what you paid in taxes versus the price of the good. It's a bit simpler than doing mental gymnastics figuring out what your $799Iphone actually costs.

that too. Its insane.

It's a bit simpler than doing mental gymnastics figuring out what your $799Iphone actually costs.

If you're worried about the tax that much then you can't afford it

What advantage does that have?

You don't have to calculate the price of every item, you can just read it.
Pretty big advantage if you ask me.

what the fuck does a customer care what money the business gets out of a sale? they care about what they personally have to pay!

If you're worried about the tax that much then you can't afford it

"Fuck poor people"

classic American statement kek
Why do you hate your low income populace so much?

American's live for corporate profit announcements.

we have 17-23% tax in europe...

Pretty big advantage if you ask me.

That's because you're too stupid to do estimation or use the calculator in your pocket or ask the cashier. That's your problem, not anyone else's.

vibes based shopping

Sorry you can't afford an iphone
Poor people in the US have them
Get gud

999.998 dollars 0 tax

1 000 000dollars 80%tax=200 000dollars left for the one selling more

so to not end up in 1 000 000$ zone everyone would just use family and later on hobos to start companies for example instead of

sneed and sons

you'd have

sneed A

SNEED B

SNEEDSTER ONLY IN MONTANA

SNEEDIE

etc.

buy eggs in mutt land

6$ for eggs

turn around to grab milk

12$ milk

go back to eggs

10.99$

It's pointless explaining this to europoors. They are taxed so heavily and regularly that they just assume it's supposed to be part of everything in their life.

Doing math isn't "mental gymnastics". What the fuck even is this thread?

You don't have differentiated sales tax on certain items categories to support local producers?

Wtf this is worse than anything I could have imagined

Why don't they just do that now

LMAO what is this thread? Foreigner seethe containment?

That's every thread these days

Surge pricing is definitely one of the reasons they've switched to digital price tags. It's beyond sleazy that this shit is becoming more common.