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He doesn't make me seethe, just depressed that any fun stories we could've had have been squandered by a showrunner who desperately wants to push a message. I'm sure Ncuti is a fine actor when given something decent to work with.

Nah, it's a him problem. He's the reason why the Doctor is a weepy mess now.

What lies in store for Booby Cumday's return???

We see from the next time she gets plastered in Alien goop and marked.

bring him back already it's time

More like Doctor Bwhob.

Can someone post the leaks from GallifreyBase?

Ruby's boyfriend is evil.
The Fugitive Doctor will regenerate into Sean Pertwee
The Eurovision episode will have Jinx or whatever that DQ is called.
The two part finale will have Mrs Flood unzip to reveal herself to be a pale blue slitheen and she's going to shoot Ncuti and make him regenerate into some young white guy.

Ncuti Gatwa responded to the question "Where would you take your TARDIS to?" by stating that he would love if the Fifteenth Doctor travelled to Nigeria and met the Orishas.

Sharma Angel-Walfall's original version of this story's script featured Orishas as an antagonistic force. Davies decided that the Orishas weren't quite working in the context of the Pantheon, and decided to rewrite the script to instead feature the Midnight entity.

So basically a black woman wanted to write a story about her culture only for RTD to intervene and change it to his retarded Midnight sequel Pantheon plotline

Kek that's actually problematic

In the context for the Pantheon.

So just make it a story that isn't related to the pantheon?
Or is it a case that the Well got re-written to be about the MIDnight entity instead and Lux got made to fill the Pantheon slot which the original Well was supposed to? If it's that, then again, why not just do the original script if Lux now exists?
Russel doesn't even put much effort into making the episode tie into his Pantheon shit

both of them suck
retard

Gatwa wants to do an episode with the Daleks.

Is gonna go down as the only Doctor in Nu-Who who didn't meet the Daleks

Gatwa wants to meet the Orishas

Russel says no, here's the Midnight entity.

Gatwa probably has no clue who Sutekh, the Toymaker and Rani is

Is just missing the Rani before his legacy becomes fighting the classic who b-listers.

Least he got to fight the Cybermen in the comics I guess?

When are we going to admit that Smith was 10x better and should've returned instead?

Can't forget my first love, Peri. This was peak 'for the dads'

Tegan was a missed opportunity.

Both RTD and Moffat have brought back too much old shit. In hindsight, 80% of nu who is just memberberries.

member the shop mannequins

member the daleks

member the cybermen

member the sontarans

member the silurians

member davros

member K-9

member the master THREE TIMES???

At least chibby tried something new for 1 season

Cries every episode to trigger the chuds

This is a good way to make your hero look like a bitch. This is why heroes just got the sexy tear instead of outright bawling. The audience won't laugh at them. The guys won't think he's a pussy, and the girls won't get the ick.

The Rani's first appearance is a few months before the show is placed on a hiatus

The Rani's second appearance is a couple of years before cancellation

It's like poetry

i didnt remember any of those things because i didnt watch classic who

Didn't her debut story turn the Master into her lackey who's always praising her for being so "smart" and "cool"?

HAVE SEX

i remember when Moffat took over and Anon Babble was convinced every episode had Amy in some kind of fetish situation.
i'm sure some people consider being covered in alien whale sick a fetish, but 'inoculation' was stretching it IMO.

Moffat's obvious fetish is some kind of X-ray vision voyeur thing. multiple times he's written stories where someone's clothes become see-through.

I wonder how much of that script was actually RTD in the end. He has a habit of rewriting scripts he doesn’t like

Stopped watching at Capaldis departure. I kinda want to see the dumpster fire of the new seasons but won’t have a clue what’s going on with all this time child shit. Is there a watch guide or do I really just have to watch all this shit.

Go on IMDb and watch the episodes that are a 5/10 or less if you want a good laugh

All you really need to know is that the Time Lords experimented on the Doctor who as a baby arrived from another universe through a portal and derived regeneration from him. Oh and before Hartnell he was basically a glowie who worked for the Time Lords and they forced him to regenerate into Hartnell after and took away his memories.
But even then, after Chibnall's stuff it's only really namedropped.

If you just want the important episodes:

Series 11

The Woman Who Fell To Earth
The Ghost Monument
The Battle of Ranskoor av Kolos

Series 12

Spyfall
Fugitive of the Judoon
The Haunting of Villa Diodati
Ascension of the Cybermen/The Timeless Children

Series 13

Flux
The Power of the Doctor

Specials

The Star Beast
Wild Blue Yonder
The Giggle
The Church on Ruby Road

Season 1

Boom
73 Yards
The Legend of Ruby Sunday/Empire of Death

Season 2 (so far)

The Robot Revolution
Lux

Tl;dw the Doctor isnt a time lord. They found some floating immortal space baby and stole regeneration from him.

And all of this is linked to a throwaway scene in The Brain of Morbius where you see other faces. I just assumed they were Morbius's faces.

the Doctor isnt a time lord.

Or he is but he's from Gallifrey's future. He fell through the Untempered Schism and gained the ability to regenerate indefinitely.

I just assumed they were Morbius's faces.

They weren't. They were intended to be prior incarnations of the Doctor. They wanted to cast celebrities but no one would bite, so they had the writers and producers dress up instead.

great summary

Thanks all, will give these a watch can’t wait to catch up to gayfella from outer space.

Philip Hinchcliffe's a handsome guy.

I like that theory the best. That or a Gallifrey from another universe took a normal time lord baby, experimented with it and flung it into that universe to kickstart Gallifrey's development in other universes.

Honestly, you can still have these and the founder origin as long as you assume he managed to get a whole new regenerative cycle pre-Hartnell. Alternatively, you can ignore NewWho and have 6 be the start of a new cycle, making 5 the 13th Doctor and enhances Caves of Androzani's status.

with all this time child shit

The Doctor was actually a super special black female refugee from another universe. She was the first being that could regenerate. A Time Lord called Tecteun experimented on her, stole the ability to regenerate (wow what a cool anti colonisism metaphor) and gave it to the other Gallifriens, creating the Time Lords. The Doctor then worked for the equivalent of Time Lord CIA and then had her mind wiped so she didn't remember it. Also there's a older black lady version of The Doctor floating around (The Fugitive Doctor) who is implied to be a pre-Hartnell Doctor (though this might be retconned at some point), from The Doctor's time in the Time Lord CIA. Not of a lot of it has been referenced since the reveal (probably due to the backlash), apart from The Doctor's time in the Time Lord CIA and now RTD is playing it up because he loves the Doctor being "le lonely god".
Also Gallifrey was destroyed again offscreen

He's fine as the Doctor

Are you watching a different show?

Zest status?

I just assumed they were Morbius's faces.

As has already been said that was the intention, but it was never clear/explicit in the show that was the case, with most people without the meta just taking the view they were Morbius' and the franchise itself running with that idea.

Also Gallifrey was destroyed again offscreen

By the Master, all by himself.

I haven't been following any of the leaks - I don't even watching any of the stuff they are releasing. They are bringing back the Rani? Anyone else? What's the endgame for the season going to be?

Mrs Flood is a bigenerated Rani.
She'll mention Omega, not sure if he'll actually turn up

Here's Robert Holmes as the Doctor. He wrote:

The Krotons

The Space Pirates

Spearhead from Space

Terror of the Autons

Carnival of Monsters

The Time Warrior

The Ark in Space

Pyramids of Mars

The Brain of Morbius

The Deadly Assassin

The Talons of Weng-Chiang

The Sun Makers

The Ribos Operation

The Power of Kroll

The Caves of Androzani

The Two Doctors

The Mysterious Planet

Here's Christopher Barry as the Doctor. He directed:

The Daleks (episodes 1, 2, 4, and 5 only)

The Rescue

The Romans

The Savages

The Power of the Daleks

The Dæmons

The Mutants

Robot

The Brain of Morbius

The Creature from the Pit

Lord Clyde Langer (born 5 June 1994) was a classmate of Maria Jackson, Luke Smith and Rani Chandra at Park Vale Comprehensive School. He joined them on adventures with Sarah Jane Smith. Clyde was a regular wisecracker and a remarkably talented artist. He sought a professional career as a comic writer and illustrator, occasionally using his exploits with the gang of 13 Bannerman Road as inspiration for his works.

Aside from The Space Pirates and The Sun Makers that's quite a good collection.

Maybe The Space Pirates would improve if it was still present, like The Enemy of the World?

Here's Douglas Camfield as the Doctor. He directed:

The Crusade

The Time Meddler

The Daleks' Master Plan

The Web of Fear

The Invasion

Inferno

Terror of the Zygons

The Seeds of Doom

She'll mention Omega, not sure if he'll actually turn up

Hasn't Omega suffered enough?

Mrs Flood is a bigenerated Rani.

It has been said before, but the show has no idea of what audience it is aiming for. It does not work for what a completely new audience, an audience that got on board in RTD1 or Moffatt, or people that are familiar with Classic. Like baiting Susan and bringing back Sutekh only means something for someone familiar with Classic, and the way the show is now is not going to appeal to people that like Classic. Same with the Rani, it is bait for an audience that does not like the show and is meaningless to someone who has no idea who she is. Sure, you can bring back Classic characters but, this way, if true, is both complicating it more than it needs to be with bigeneration and is such a forced attempt to create mystery with a payoff that is hollow to every audience type. If you were to bring back Rani then it would just be better to have her showup and the Doctor when asked who she is by the companion have him say something about her being a fellow Time Lord that does immoral science experiments.

randomly bringing back Mel without any introduction as if she's just 'still around' was weird as hell. they go through the motions of explaining other things to kids just getting into it, but not her?

look at School Reunion and how they handled Sarah Jane Smith. although a bit stranger is The Sarah Jane Adventures when they had the Brigadier or Jo Grant or whoever - more Classic Who connections and it's the show for 10-year-olds.

look at School Reunion and how they handled Sarah Jane Smith. although a bit stranger is The Sarah Jane Adventures when they had the Brigadier or Jo Grant or whoever - more Classic Who connections and it's the show for 10-year-olds.

I would say with Jo and Brigadier they are ultimately just secondary. There is going to be some kids who are familiar with Classic, but clearly they are there for a non-kid audience. The kids watching who have no idea who they are can just accept that they are people the Doctor knew and roll with it easily enough. Jo and Brigadier are really little more than glorified cameos, they are not super central to either the story or even more so some multi-season arc. Speaking of Brigadier, baffling to me they never had him a NuDoctor interact - besides the bullshit CyberBrig. Even if they did not put it in an episode they could have done some minisode.

i mean kids aren't going to be utterly confused they can't follow along, i just found it strange there were more (direct) references to UNIT, past events and such. remember a few even had flashbacks to Sarah Jane in older stories.

in a way it's what i would have liked Doctor Who itself to have been from the start. less overarching plots etc.

Speaking of Brigadier, baffling to me they never had him a NuDoctor interact

Nicholas Courtney was famously a massive homophobe and refused to work with "those faggots" (Tennant and Smith). He only agreed to return for SJA after Liz Sladen convinced him. Courtney was later quoted in an interview saying he returned to SJA to see Sladen's "cracking tits" once again in real life.

that's some shit tier homophobia if they're not even gay.

is it just because they're young/trendy? i know he was after Waris Hussein but JNT? surely some old-school gay actors?

although a bit stranger is The Sarah Jane Adventures when they had the Brigadier or Jo Grant or whoever

But never in the MAIN SHOW. 9, 10 and 11 never met the Brigadier. We only got the the rest of the Classic Docs meeting him through the audios.

This is different, but I just got reminded about how Chad Ian's return was in the abomination that was the Thirteenth Doctor era. This is probably known by anons, but Ian was the original intention to appear in Mawdryn Undead rather than the Brigadier.

Fuck RTD for making Ace into some lame ass head of some charity instead of the Time Lady she was set up to become. All that development in the audios down the shitter. Same with 8 and his path to becoming the Doctor who ended the Time War.

phone call with some nurse/orderly after his death

see him resurrected as a robot for some reason

meet his dad

yeah that's just kind of dumb. it's like how a bunch of the actors are obviously happy to do Big Finish but aren't 'picked' to appear in the main programme itself. don't want endless fan service but just have Susan show up before Carol Ann Ford dies, she can even regenerate!

It's also not true

Jo Grant is the weird one because they specifically wrote her as a thicko, but then she becomes an environmentalist or something?

does everyone either just go work for UNIT or do some noble 'cause'?

Jo being an environmentalist is linked to her husband being an environmentalist.

To be fair with 8, RTD envisioned him as the Doctor who ended the Time War. He even wrote a story about the final moments of the Time War that was going to be released on the 50th before Moffat revealed to him that he was handling it.
As for Ace, I prefer people not just becoming Time Lords and Ladies. Feels like it'd spiral into everyone becoming one at some point.

she can even regenerate

Not her son apparently.

To be fair with 8, RTD envisioned him as the Doctor who ended the Time War. He even wrote a story about the final moments of the Time War that was going to be released on the 50th

Watching the end of the 13th Doctor. I was bored by pretty much every other episode of his but this one is good.

The Power of the Doctor is a mess of a story, but it's an entertaining mess. I genuinely think it's Chibnall's best script and fun to watch.

Nigga sucks dick i refuse to watch

how come they've edited out Jimmy Saville and Huw Edwards, but not the other nonces and sex weirdos?

merlin was better

Yes Doctor Who will be black but here's your blonde blue eyed White girl to make up for it

Only kidding

nah this was wank. wanted to like it.

did some really stupid shit. like Guinevere didn't actually have an affair it was mind control or something? an alien showed up? the ending was our England, in modern times?

There's some rumor around that RTD is going to have the Doctor permanently die and then restart his regeneration cycle in an entirely new universe. That true or is it just a joke about how shitty RTD's endings are?