Is this show really as good as people are saying? Even though it's made by Disney?
The only Star Wars media I’ve truly enjoyed were the KOTOR games and some of the expanded universe books.
I also thought the original trilogy, the Fallen Order games, and the KOTOR comics were decent.
Given that, how likely am I to enjoy this show?
Andor
no, its boring as hell.
its a 2 hour story stretched over 10 hours. its endless tedious dialog and pointless side stories.
Pic related is this show's biggest shill.
exactly fucking THIS. glad I'm not only one who recognized blatant bloating
It's star wars for people who don't like star wars. They replaced all the mysticism and wonder with a poor imitation of Army of Shadows
this. the seasons have 12 episodes, making mini arcs of 3 episodes, but the truth is that the it's just 1 episode stretched into 3 episodes. Someone should make a 4 episode per season edit. It will be the definitive way to see Andor
I thought it was the best thing to come out of the Disney era. I'm honestly surprised it wasn't a holdover from before the buyout, given the way the rest of their shows and movies play out.
That said, it isn't for everyone. The biggest complaint you'll see out of people is that it's boring and there's a lot of episodes where not much is going on. And that's reasonable, it takes quite a while for things to kick off. I would prefer to call it a slow burn, but to each their own. My palate is a bit more welcoming to this kind of thing because of the stuff I'm used to reading and watching, but I understand that to the average Star Wars fan that stuff doesn't go over well.
If you couldn't stomach people talking about the world in the prequels and other EU books of that era, then you definitely won't be able to get through this.
I've rewatched it and the movie 3 times. Best work in SW and it won't soon be surpassed.
No it’s just good by 2025 standards
Is it at least better than The Expanse?
Star Virgins on Anon Babble hate it.
I thought it was excellent.
I havent watched but i think it is
I wish they gave Dedra Meero more to do. She was the most interesting part of the whole thing.
First season looked pretty boring. I boarded out beofre it got intereeting
For Star Wars fans (plebs)? It’s shit
For general Sci Fi fans? It’s solid
Think Star Trek DS9
That’s all the genocide against children I have to deny today, go away now.
RAPE!
You said watch him!
Tell him you said watch him!
RAPE!
Is this show really as good as people are saying?
yes you dumbfuck go watch it
Why does every Alien in Andor look like sequel trilogy disgusting blob aliens?
Tony Gilroy fundamentally does not understand Star Wars, and WW2 French people just feels so un-star wars it's disgusting.
Not as good as it's first three seasons, better than anything afterwards.
it is good and has a better understanding of star wars than filioni slop
To be fair to Andor, you have to factor in that it had to fit itself into the canon of an existing universe with all it's issues. The Expanse is the first adaptation of a relatively new work.
Not at all, i loved the fuest season, but the second one made me realize the first one was just lucky. There are 4 writers and they can fucking agree with what they are doing, some of them are decent, others are pure garbage.
For example, the guy that wrote the first couple episodes of the first season, did the same on the second; and its easy to spot plot points that eventually go nowhere bevause they are stupid. In the first season it seems he wanted the story to be about him finding his sister, but the other writers disagreed and just ignored it, dismissing all that shit with a short comment from his mother before she passed away. Same tuing happened during S2, the same moron wrote a plot hook about the gf getting PTSD from torture and developing a drug addiction; the rest of the writers thought it was retarded and killed that plot in just a absolutely random scene that involves her murdering the guy that tortured her out of nowhere. The PTSD/drug addiction is never mentioned again.
Also, the first episodes of both seasons are the worst; the second ine is particularly bad because it involves a pointless story about illegal farmers running away from an evil empire thats checking their visa. In other words, we wasted 2-3 episodes of character development (that was absolutely missing by the end) because the retard that wrote the first episodes wanted to say TRUMP BAD.
But what is good about it? I quit th3 first season when atellan skargaard was coming to buy the ship
the first 3 episodes in this season were hands down the weakest
Probably the best star wars thing since Empire Strikes Back
the first 3 episodes in this season were hands down the weakest
JUST LIKE THE FIRST 30 MINUTES OF EVERY MOVIE
I look like that
i originally stopped there too. but it does get more get going as they plan the heist and start showing more of the empire and whats going on in Coruscant
god you guys are retarded zoomers
I'd say it could work even if it wasn't Star Wars. It is a bit slow though.
I also don't wash and my beard go wild
reusing assets probably. they have total of one plastic fish head prop to put on a guy and then cgi over it slightly different alien every time
YEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!
At last, the long fight comes to an end.
I don't have to live with the things I did anymore.
Those Imperials' families I murdered
The contacts I burned, the allies I killed.
The rapes, oh Force, the rapes!
I became the same thing I was fighting out of necessity.
Fuck no. It's insufferable leftist propaganda, boring as fuck, and drags Star Wars through the mud as badly as the Acolyte and the sequel trilogy if not worse.
If he's so smart how come he's dead?
iirc some tfa lore book said that a lot of the ot/ prequel aliens got genocided by the first order or some shit, which is why the galaxy is now overrun by dinsey's ugly ayys while the old ones are nowhere to be found
just another one of jj's impressive world building decisions
qrd?
They had to pay George Lucas a hundred thousand zogbucks every time they show one of his aliens.
Cape wars and star wars recommendations are premised on the idea that the natural order of things is for these products to be good, so as long as they aren't fatally bad, they're worth watching.
It's the best show I've seen in about 15 years. SS this
I like both, but I think andor has it beat in most fronts except for the space battles and speculative fiction aspects (although tbf andor doesn't focus on those very much)
Modern media is really only catered for spics and jeets now we have fallen
It's peak Disney wokeslop. Boring, preachy, lame characters, muh message rather than fun space adventures.
Which EU books did you read?
i watched the minecraft movie and the first 25 or so minutes are by far the most entertaining
bix
Mon
kleya
jyn
Motherfucker got to rescue FOUR damsels in distress and even put a baby in one of them. This show was based.
i can't stand disney's single syllable star wars names
If you like character driven stories and well written politics, this will be right up your alley.
If you thought the small council meetings in game of thrones were kino, give it a shot..
It does demand you pay attention, I never really got why people say it's boring, I was hooked from the second scene on, but you need to pay attention to actually enjoy it.
Most people hating on it are either
zoomers that watched it on a second screen while scrolling through tik tok
star wars fans that are deeply entrenched into hating anything disney
star wars fans that are deeply invested in trying to like disney slop and can't cope with the fact that star wars can actually be good and the last 10 years were absolutely wasted
chuds that think a show about the intergalactic soviet union is somehow anti Trump
The Thrawn Trilogy, The Jedi Academy Trilogy and The Hand of Thrawn Duology.
well written politics
I'm not a shill, honest
damsels in distress
That's not what the term means.
Luke
Han
complaining a out chuds nad Trump
it's about Soviet Union somehow
Peak glowpost.
Comparing greatness written by an auteur to a pus sucking bloated rat
They were damsels, who were also distressed
They were damsels
Cassian, luthen, kino, dedra, syril, partagaz
It's a weird complaint man
Idk what people are saying but it's just good. It's a shame it leads to the okayest movie of all time though.
The first episode was complete trash. I find it hard to believe it had a 10 point reversal going forward.
It's too good to be star wars while simultaneously not fun enough to be star wars. It's probably the best far future space series in existence, but that's not a high bar because all space shows (yes including the expanse) are fucking garbage. If they tightened up the pacing slightly, included some more aliens and fun ship designs, and put in something resembling an action scene once every 2 episodes instead of once every 4 episodes then it would probably be the greatest SW media of all time. As is, it's an oddity with qualities far surpassing most SW media but lacking all SW identifiers.
I doubt this. Granted I only watched the first episode, but
Hilariously bad production values
Zero world building
No story or character
Firefly was pretty decent and this felt like a retard with no talent trying to copy that.
It takes him three episodes to leave the planet and join the rebel guy. The pacing is horribly slow and basically nothing happens in some arcs.
How does it compare to The Mandalorian?
I got baited into watching the first season, but it ended up being a waste of time, because it was just meh.
It's probably the best far future space series in existence
You have to say far future because the science fiction is non existent. It's a shitty drama that's only nominally set in space.
You'd think that reducing the number of seasons this show had would make the story more fast-paced, not tedious and plodding
Good picks. Try to read A.C Crispin’s Han Solo trilogy if you haven’t already. Brilliant stuff.
random arrests based on quotas
huge portion of the economy based on work camps
erradication of local culture and tradition
the all powerful secret service that ends up eating up it's most competent members
People in Coruscant and a few other powerful worlds are mostly insulated, while the outer systems get absolutely dicked
Yes retard, the empire in Andor is 80% soviet union and maybe 20% nazis. And a pinch of british empire.
I haven't payed for a anything Disney since I watched the force awakens in the cinema. Pirate sites have gotten crazy good.
List me a few shows that you thought were well written. Either you have shit taste, or you didn't watch Andor.
It's even better a second time around without the long breaks inbetween during original release.
He got two seasons out of he door and didnt had enough material for one.
>random arrests based on quotas
FBI and DHS.
>huge portion of the economy based on work camps
US prison system.
>erradication of local culture and tradition
Native American genocide.
>the all powerful secret service that ends up eating up it's most competent members
CIA.
>People in Coruscant and a few other powerful worlds are mostly insulated, while the outer systems get absolutely dicked
Washington DC.
well-written politics
doesn't know jackshit about politics or writing
Disney's the kinda Aids that gives one gay ass cancer.
Nice list pussy
watches a lib that argues Andor is a communits masterpiece and the empire is America
implicity accepts the retarded argument and is deeply offended
If America is an evil empire, they are not doing it very well, especially consiering the resources they have at their disposal.
Read a fucking book, might I suggest starting with
the Gulag Archipelago.
production values are excellent, entire thing has impressive sets/filmed on location vs the giant studio screen used for all other SW shows
...yes thats exactly why i specified retard. There's various sci fi shows that are basically just set in modern day with one sci fi element that deserve to be in a conversation of great shows, like say severance, but anything that's just "our world" with someone wearing a shiny fucking hat or taking a trip to the moon doesn't really count now does it?
lib
Does any Jedi or Sith appear at any point of the show?
production values are excellent
It immediately jumped out that it was a crappy BBC production. Really low quality for Disney+
Elaborate. It looked better than anything outside the mainline movies to me.
Season 2 episodes 7-11 are great
The rest of it is just decent
Most shows only have like 1 or 2 great episode in their entire run so I'd say it puts Andor above average
production values are excellent
The budget was 600 million dollars and yet pull shit like this.
George Lucas explicitly said that the Galactic Empire was based on America and the Emperor on Nixon. Andor himself is based on fucking Stalin. You are massively retarded.
I haven't watched Severance but it does look like a fully retarded show.
George Lucas explicitly said that the Galactic Empire was based on America and the Emperor on Nixon
Yes, but Lukas is retarded and Andor is not the OT.
Andor himself is based on fucking Stalin
Still waiting on a source on that my guy.
I've only seen one episode of this and some of the Mandalorian. It straight away looked like a BBC production. Cheap sets and photography. Very fake looking. I went and looked it up at the time and it was indeed the people who worked on stuff like Sherlock.
production values are excellent and it's wild that you would debate it as anything else. They built massive sets and have storylines on like a dozen different planets. You guys are mad about the nigger with the ak47? That has nothing to do with the production value, that's a decision.
DEADLINE: Was there something in history that the Season 1 finale was inspired by? Especially with everything that is going on in Ukraine.
TONY GILROY: It’s just so incredibly sad how easily available all of the things that seemed contemporaneously sad are through history, and that they just continue to repeat themselves.
There are things all the way through the show, and I don’t want to go through and quote chapter and verse, but this is the Russian Revolution. This is the Montagnard. This is something interesting that happened in the Haitian Revolution. This is the ANC. Oh, this is the Irgun Building, Palestine. This is the Continental Congress. This goes all the way…I mean, you could drop a needle in the last, I don’t know what is recorded history, 3,000 years, legitimate recorded, I mean, slavery, oppression, colonialism, bad behavior, betrayal, heroism, I mean, it’s a continuum.
I think the production values were high but it only translates into the occasional pretty background. It's a very uninspired and drab production that doesn't come up with unique locations, typical of Disney.
Link me the interview.
I've read through two of them now and the most political it got was when deadline wanted to compare Mon Mothma to Pelosi and Gilroy deflected to ancient fucking rome.
I'm pretty sure that was a very intentional choice. Andor purposefully eschews all of the fantastical elements of Star Wars (i.e. the jedi, aliens, exotic locations, etc) in favor of a more grounded story. Whether you like that kind of thing is up to personal taste I guess but I wouldn't say it was Disney meddling.
Deflecting to the Russian Revolution after the interviewer was leading him into talking about Ukraine is pretty non ambiguous.
LINK the FUCKING INTERVIEW THEN.
i'd agree that it's a drab production which is why I said it lacks all the fun of star wars and would have benefitted from more aliens etc. I agree with the other anon that it's intentional, and enjoyment factors may vary, but the show isn't cheap and it doesn't feel cheap.
Red Leader loudly celebrating his own demise is one of the funniest things in Star Wars
I'm on episode 7. First 2 episodes are pretty boring, episode 3 finally things are happening and I've enjoyed it since then. It slows down again for the next 2 episodes after that but I enjoyed these more and another moment happens in episode 6. Dunno if this is a continuing pattern but it's working alright for me.
I've never been a fan of Star Wars, even the original trilogy is kinda whatever to me. The setting and overall aesthetic just never appealed to me, so the fact that I'm enjoying this despite the world it's in probably means it actually is pretty decent. Haven't seen a single lightsaber so far and that definitely helps.
I say check it out but prepare yourself for the first 2 episodes being pretty mid. At least they're not that long (like 35-40 mins)
no, which is one of the best things about it. these days the most boring aspect of star wars is le hecking space wizarderinos
second most boring aspect is fucking skywalkers and there are none of those either
It's ok but willfully abandons the Star Wars magic.. It gets overrated because of the dire quality of the Filoni shows and because leftists love propaganda.
It's better than the prequels and pointing that out makes prequelfags mad. It shows day-to-day life under the empire and the characters are reasonably complex. If you like the cartoonish aspects of Star Wars you'll probably think it's boring but if you though Rogue One was decent you'll like it.