So why does Anakin object to Mace Windu killing Palpatine claiming it's not the Jedi way when he killed Dooku earlier?

So why does Anakin object to Mace Windu killing Palpatine claiming it's not the Jedi way when he killed Dooku earlier?

Because the writer of the prequel trilogy is a dumbass

He wanted to believe the Order still consisted of good guys. Of people better than him. It's why Morty was so upset about Planetina murdering people, even though he'd done the same.

Anakin loved Palpatine, not really shown that well in the movies but in the books you see they were like best pals

because he is a hypocrite

he objected to killing Dooku too but he literally had the devil on his shoulder egging him on
he wasn't expecting Windu to do the same, he's supposed to be a Master Jedi

Killing Dooku was correct based on the tactical situation. Enemy territory, Obiwan knocked out. VIP in tow. Bad shit.

Problem is that Anakin likely did it for less than noble reasons, and he feels bad about it.

Palpatine was "beaten" and anakin needed him. He wanted Mace Windu to have some fucking decency. That much is true.

Because dooku deserved it and mace is a dumb nigger.

He didn't expect the magical negro to be just as bad as him.

It’s like pottery they rhyme.

Because he himself believed in that before he killed Dooku and thought what he did was wrong.

Go ahead and link the scene where Anakin comes to the realization that killing Dooku was wrong and then square the circle of him executing Windu, instead of the guy who started the war (that killed millions) and ordered him to kill Dooku (which, according to you is now wrong), is correct.

tbf Dooku was on the enemy flagship in the middle of a huge battle, Sheev was just in his office disarmed with 2 Jedi present
what was Anakin meant to do? somehow escort this powerful force user back home to Coruscant, along with the helpless chancellor and Obi Wan's unconscious body?

Mace used the same justification of breaking the law Palpatin did, and Palpatin ended up being Sith blabbing about about how Sith and Jedi are the same thing.
Mace doing that effectively proved Palpatine's words and made Jedi as lawless in Anakin's eyes as Sith. Mace got rid of the only moral compass Anakin had.
From now on its all the same so it's better to stick to the guy who promised you to save your wife and technically didn't lie about the Jedi.

tbf Dooku was on the enemy flagship in the middle of a huge battle

Executing prisoners is a war crime, retard.

Sheev was just in his office disarmed

Dooku literally had his hands cut off and Palpatine was orchestrating a massive conspiracy that involved killing millions by way of instigating a war (and he can throw lightening out of his hands that, unlike Dooku, are still attached to his body). Lol

Sick of all these threads. I wish George Lucas would die immediately.

Wasn't Dooku technically the source of the droid armies? They ceased to be an issue the moment he died.

Having retards defend him even after he sold them out to Disney is far more funny, anon. They're battered wives you're allowed to laugh at.

He was the source of the clone army (which the Jedi still used because the plot needed them to and it was an easy, but retarded, way to quickly kill them all off).

Palpatine told Anakin to kill Dooku, and he did.
Palpatine told Anakin to save him, and he did.
He was under Palpatine's spell. I thought that would've been obvious.

Executing prisoners is a war crime, retard.

I know that but what was the alternative? even without his hands Dooku was dangerous and Anakin is already responsible for two other helpless people

no? the trade federation and other separatists were on mustafar at the end of the movie, they were the ones bankrolling the droids

He was under Palpatine's spell.

Oh, so the MC of your tragedy has no agency at the most important parts of the story and you think the prequels are well written? Lol

youtube.com/watch?v=oKm4ueVuxpY

Gonna post this every thread until you retards stop saying retarded shit

I know that but what was the alternative?

If they had left him he'd likely be dead anyway and seeing as he was (literally) disarmed they could have taken him prisoner. The real reason Lucas executes him is because the plot needs him to not tell the Jedi about Palpatine and, like so much else in the prequels, convolution be damned and contrivance be honored.

So why does Anakin object to Mace Windu killing Palpatine claiming it's not the Jedi way when he killed Dooku earlier?

palpatine was like his father figure first of all. second of all, Anakin was desperate for guidance and having the Jedi not live up to their morals was another betrayal. Oh, and you forgot the part where he was convinced palpatine would be able to save padme from dying.

now get off my lawn.

I see

palpatine was like his father figure first of all

The emphasis isn't shown in the plot but is offhandedly told directly to the audience in one scene.

Anakin was desperate for guidance

The Jedi not providing such for Anakin isn't addressed.

having the Jedi not live up to their morals

This isn't shown in the plot and Anakin had already executed someone, who was utterly defenseless, for no reason.

Plot needs stuff to happen and it does. It's fine if you're a retard who doesn't pay attention or are willing to overlook it all for whatever reason but don't try to say shit isn't convoluted and contrived. It is.

watch the movie before posting retarded shit please

Plot needs stuff to happen and it does. It's fine if you're a retard who doesn't pay attention or are willing to overlook it all for whatever reason but don't try to say shit isn't convoluted and contrived. It is.

demanding a spoon feeding like a mouth breather.

shut the fuck up retard. it's easy to read the subtext.

He didn't kill mace, he merely disarmed him thinking Palpatine was defenseless.

"show don't tell" niggas when the movie doesn't tell you exactly what is happening in every scene

Maybe it's just us overestimating the average Anon Babble user

anakin never had consistent morality and especially in this situation was happy to ignore anything and everything to get the outcome he wanted

watch the movie

I've seen them and they're bad. >demanding a spoon feeding
The movies do spoon feed the audience, retard. The problem is it feeds you sardines and ice cream at the same time.

He didn't kill mace

He killed Dooku.

thinking Palpatine was defenseless

Head canon. He set him up to get whacked and then did nothing about the fact Palpatine executed him, lol.

Anakin is a non-believer pulling at straws, like an atheist trying to claim Catholics should always act a certain way due a single bible verse they read once.

Prequelfags are dumb enough to enjoy the prequels which means they're too dumb to understand why they're bad. All they can do is repeat plot beats they were directly told by the movie absent any acknowledgement of criticism as if you missed them:

Anakin's "forbidden" relationship with Padme doesn't actually cause any conflict in the plot

HE HAS FEELINGS THOUGH AND THEY MAKE HIM DO NO-NOS!

that's not conflict--the only reason you know the relationship is "forbidden" is because you're told over and over again

IT'S FORBIDDEN BECAUSE IT LEADS HIM TO THE DARK SIDE!

that's plot but nothing actually impedes the relationship, you're simply told "it's forbidden" to give it a false sense of gravity when there aren't any actual stakes being demonstrated by way of characters being challenged, let alone changing, and driving things forward

HE SIDES WITH PALPATINE BECAUSE HE LOVES HER AND IT'S FORBIDDEN!

the Jedi don't do anything to stop his relationship, Obi Wan even accepts it when he finds out, and since you've brought it up he has no reason to trust Palpatine--he thinks a guy who started a war killing millions all so he can take power cares about his relationship with some girl?

...

?

HIS JUDGEMENT IS CLOUDED BECAUSE HE LOVES PADME AND THE JEDI FORBID IT!

Ffs, lol.

due a single bible verse they read once.

You mean a single Bible verse they heard Richard Dawkins or Matt Dillahunty take issue with once.

another star wars thread

disney shills are really working overtime this week

"don't rape altar boys"

shut up you're a non-believer heathen!

>Anakin's "forbidden" relationship with Padme doesn't actually cause any conflict in the plot

How does a person type this out and hit post?

I like to think his motives aren't entirely driven by padme.. His mom was murdered by sand niggers. The Jedi's moral code constantly stood on shakey foundations, he was fighting assassins & on the front lines of planetary conflict every other day. Basically lived in a lawless chaotic galaxy

He ultimately ended up being in charge, all the idiots who previously commanded him were now dead or in hiding. He won.
Even his fine piece of ass padawan Ahsoka returned to see him

It only became shit once Disney got involved. "Acshually Obi-Wan is stronger than vader" BS

Obi-wan is only stronger because he was thinking of his inexplicably tiny child side-squeeze. I fucking hated that show.

Nothing actually stands in the way of the relationship. They're never impeded by anything and the audience is merely told it's a "forbidden" to add false gravity by way of trope (which isn't actually employed because Lucas is a shit writer). On top of that neither of their characters change because of the relationship (i.e. no new traits develop, Padme just floats to the background unless she's needed to say something directly related to the plot and Anakin stays the same unless it's to tell us he loves Padme) and the romance doesn't actually factor into anything save for telling the audience decisions are made because of it (when, again, the le forbidden nature doesn't actually factor in to the plot).

It's just bad writing, anon. You can decide to go along for the ride with it but pretending it isn't contrived is just being retarded.

Please watch the goddamn movies before trying to critique them anon, its embarassing.
No watching ecelebs give a plot summary doesn't count

I like to think his motives aren't entirely driven by padme

Except that's the main reason for his decisions according to the plot. You can insert head canon that isn't shown on screen but the fact is he betrays the Jedi because he believes a guy who started a war killing millions of people cares about his relationship, lol. Even if you strain to give every accordance to the writing Anakin still comes off as a retard. This is because he's a poorly written character in a poorly written tragedy with a poorly written overarching plot.

no response

Again, prequelfags are too retarded to respond to criticism and can only sperg plot points that were directly given to the audience while pretending people smarter than they are missed them.

Thanks for proving that point.

You post the same copypasta every thread who is gonna engage with you when it's very clear your issues have nothing to do with the movies themselves?

DAE ledditors watch le ebin plinkett rebiews XDDDD

issues

You're an adult invested in Star Wars, anon.

So poorly written you're still here talking about it 21 years later

1. Democratically elected monarch.

This was solely done because Lucas wanted Leia to be a real princess and was reaching for surface level themes about democracy. It's retarded.

2. She's a teenager.

This was only done because Lucas had to restrict the age gap between Padme and Anakin. It's retarded.

3. Elected leader of an entire planet but no one recognizes her.

Lucas did this because his audience is stupid and won't notice it. He wanted a cliched plot twist that depends on the fact the audience are morons.

inb4: elected monarchs existed

They weren't children.

inb4: there were child rulers

They weren't elected and had regents.

inb4: she had a body double

She was supposedly elected head of an entire planet.

upset? perturbed?

Oh look more copypastas

So, by that logic, those RLM reviews are great because prequelfags are obsessed with them a decade and a half after they were posted? Lol

/thread

Yep. Seethe about it, lol.

No u. America first btw.

objects to mace windu killing palps without trial

proceeds to kill mace windu

this smol boy?

I'M A PERSON AND MY NAME IS ANAKIN

check out his midichlorians tho!

NOW THAT'S POD RACING! WAHOO!

who bro! there's a sith apprentice! might be a conspiracy!

let's give dictarorial powers to this guy we're suspicious of! Great idea!

good thing this giant army showed up at the same time there's a conspiracy promoting a galatic war!

THE JEDI DON'T RESPECT MY POWER LEVEL!

I LOVE PADME SO FUCKING MUCH...AS MUCH AS I HATE FUCKING SAND!

let's send Anakin to tail the guy we're suspicious of and gave all that power to, even though we sense something off about Anakin and won't let him on the council

HE A SITH LORD!

padme...will die

I BETTER TRUST YOU EVEN THOUGH YOU STARTED THE GALACTIC WAR TO GAIN POWER! BYE BYE "1000 GENERATIONS" OF GOVERNMENT!

[murders children]

Anakin, I'm your FREN!

sperg sperg MUH POWA LEVEL! sperg sperg

Anakin...you're breaking my heart!

zeeeer ZERRRRRRR zeeeeer [twirling lightsabers]

AHHHH! MY ARM! MY LEGS! HATE! HAAAAAAAATEEEEEEE!

we can't find anything wrong with her...it appears she died of a...broken heart

AND PADME?

she told you that you were breaking her heart, bro

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I'm genuinely baffled when prequel 'critics' get hung up on plot trivia with very obvious intentions and explanations and then proceed to shit their pants like toddlers because george didn't make their headcanon real.

Palpatine had a Persuasion and Chatisma boost that allowed him to keep rolling 20’s. Anakin had a INT of like 5 so he was highly susceptible

This is embarrassing anon

Yeah. I don't know how prequelfags can handle it.

MUH POWER LEVEL

uh, a little bit shallow for tragic hubris...

CAN YOU NOT SEE MY INNER CONFLICT!

hmmm, the relationship with Padme could be a source of conflict...

NO! IT'S FUCKING ROMANTIC! WE SAID IT'S FORBIDDEN AND THAT'S ENOUGH! NO ONE WILL NOTICE! WE'RE TELLING YOU HOW TO FEEL ABOUT THIS!

but neither of your characters really change based on one another...

CAN'T YOU SEE HOW FUCKING TRAGIC THIS IS? MY EYES CHANGED COLOUR!

this feels a little rushed...

[FORCE CHOKES PADME]

while giving birth she...dies of a broken heart?

THIS IS TRAGEDY!

ffs

anon your tism is showing

star wars threads making a comeback

how do i upvote this?

prequelfag posting a picture of a cartoon frog calling a science fantasy the "trifecta" accuses someone of displaying autism

I don't remember that ever being said.

Let it go, little bro

posts picture of fellow Star Wars fans looking söy in an attempt to make fun of someone making fun of Star Wars

I love your self-owns.

Why is it every time I hear Lucas talk he comes across as very articulate and educated, but the people who hate him most seem to devolve into babbling impotent rage whenever they talk about him?

adult Star Wars fan calling someone else childish

That's called projection, anon. You assume the people making fun of you have an emotional investment equal to your childish fixation on defending Star Wars and picture them angry while they laugh at you. This is what's known as a cope.

Don't you have more copypastas to spam?

He needed Palpatine alive to save Padme but he couldn´t tell that to Windu so he tried to appeal to the Jedi´s code and Windu´s morals.

Even if Anakin had told Windu the truth Windu would not have changed his mind, if Padme´s life was the price for ending the war he would have payed it.

Did anyone post the RLM one yet? Lol.

Why is it every time I hear Lucas talk he comes across as very articulate and educated

PFFFT...
You seem pretty easily impressed, friend.

It's probably because Lucas wears glasses. Idiots think wearing glasses makes you smart.

kek

He literally yells out “I need him!” right before Mace swings you retard. These movies suck but this is such a stupid question fuck you go watch a real movie

still cares about RLM opinions more than a decade later

Those guys are so rent-free it's amazing. I want to make fun of them but given the fact they've made millions mocking you guys, just like Lucas made billions selling you out to Disney, I'll refrain.

shit your pants in public

"dude you stink of shit"

HAHA RENT FREE I WIN

believes a guy who caused a war killing millions of people cares about his fe-fes for a woman he used as a pawn and endangered countless times

Wow, Anakin is retarded.

Star Wars fans shit themselves in public

Makes sense.

the prequels are good

Watch the Plinket reviews.

why do you treat the guy who made space cop as an authority on moviemaking?

authority on moviemaking

I don't know about that but they're an authority on making prequelfags mad, lol.

How do you fail to understand the plot of a children's movie?

Why are you an adult upset by other people's negative opinions about a children's movie?

Pretending you don't understand the movie to dunk on Lucas isn't an opinion anon

This movie is overrated. The entire second half feels really forced. Having them battle over lava seemed too over the top and it never seemed as epic as it was supposed to. Duel of the Fates felt way more real.

I kneel and apologize

He had free will, he was just manipulated by Sheev and was being messed up by his nightmares about Padme. It's not a literal spell, dolt.

Pretending you don't understand the movie

They do understand it though.

to dunk on Lucas

People making fun of Star Wars care about George Lucas? Lol, anon...

because lucas is a genius, true artist, and american hero.

his haters are unaccomplished losers who wouldnt be able to manage a mcdonald's. lucas oversaw a billion dollar empire that made video games, special effects, and movie productions.

its a downright crime these anti-lucas mouth breathers became dominant

He had free will

Not according to that post. "He's an idiot when the plot needs him to be because an outside influence controls him" is what qualifies as good writing for you guys? Wow.

How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

Star Wars fan thinking about McDonalds

Lol

too stupid to understand a kids movie

I usually skip breakfast so I'd feel normal. But enough about food you fat fuck, lol.

I haven't eaten breakfast in years. I eat lunch around noon, dinner around five or six, and that's it.

What is the difference between george lucas'a "poetry" and callbacks?

Many here are incorrectly analyzing the situation, the answer is very simple. By that point Anakin was under Palpatine’s thumb already, he wanted him for the power to stop death. It was entirely for selfish reasons, not because he felt the jedi order had betrayed their ideals.

bass ackward for the alleged character arc

but it clearly rhymes

You've got to hand it to him, he maintained a consistent level of effort.

Anakin and Mace are both hypocrites. It’s why they clash.