I did it all for myself cause I like it

jesse literally caused 99% of the problems for walt in the entire show

He also was his initial vehicle into the meth trade. No Jesse, no show, cost of doing business

initially yes but the fact that he protected him by the end of s3 means that yes. Walt did everything for the family up until s5

Did he? Walt kept tarding out the entire time.

Walt was a retard who thought Gus was going to kill him and/or Jesse and threw a grenade into his entire operation by convincing Jesse to kill Gale.

Pride maybe isn’t the right word. Retarded egocentrism maybe

Gus *was* going to kill him.

Tbf the writing slowly fell apart as the series progressed. Walt became less and less sympathetic because he was written that way and, once again being fair, there had to be some motivation for him continuing to cook despite having more than enough set aside for his family. That motivation being egotism

Walt could have just quietly worked with Gale -an actual chemist and professional but he tarded out and got him replaced with the former meth/heroin addict fuckup. At that point he basically confirmed to Gus he was a liability and things spiralled from that point, but prior to that there's zero reason to think Gus wanted him dead-it would be completely self defeating

I did it for sneed.

Turning on Jesse would have sacrificed the last little bit of his humanity.

At the start they were trying to write him as 'her was basically good and flawed but he was becoming truly evil over time', it was supposed to be a character arc. This was the idea through season one and two, and there is still some evidence of it through season three and four.

Later they decided to go with 'he was bad all along but he only got a chance to show it later in life', not really much of a character arc, and kind basic as a character study. This was the main focus after season three, it's just that there was Gus to compare him to so he still came across as sympathetic up until Gus was killed.

Who knows why they changed it?

Gale was just as skilled a chemist as Walt, perhaps more so. Walt couldn’t have that. Saving Jesse was clearly him rationalizing his egotism as he went on to do even more inhumane things. Poisoning a little kid comes to mind

'her was basically good and flawed but he was becoming truly evil over time',

It is MA'AM

Only because he was chronically insubordinate

The point is that every little step is a little bit more justified by care for Jesse. Allowing Jane to die was "for" Jesse. The drug dealing was supporting Jesse now that his family was already taken care of. Poisoning Brock was to keep Jesse on side rather than having to kill him like another of Gus' henchmen.

If he turns on Jesse, each little step on the road to Hell that he's already taken is rendered moot. It's the one thing he can't bring himself to do (until Hank dies).

Walter was bad and toxic since season one is just that we as audience dont take him serious just watch the first episodes he's always mocking Jesse or telling him he's an idiot and pushing him to do worse shit lmao

Ostensibly sure, those were “all for Jesse,” but they weren’t: it was all for Walt’s ego or simply as a means towards an end. I get your point about sunk costs, but if Walt truly cared for Jesse he wouldn’t have used him to get into the meth business in the first place

He initially wanted to die out of pride, for his family's sake because of his failed life goals and emasculating wife. When he chose to live and continue being emasculated etc he also chose to keep his pride by making meth. If his wife wasnt giving him birthday handjobs while shopping on ebay maybe he wouldnt feel the need to overcompensate by denying the rich cunts offer to pay for his treatment.

well he used him in the beginning but he grew attached to him in the meantime, considering him his son

That scene is so fucking funny and sad at the same time lmao

He's being a jerk trying to make money in an illegal way for his family, and later he consciously starts putting on the Heisenberg persona.

Being a jerk doesn't make you evil, being evil doesn't make you a jerk. Gus isn't a jerk and he's way more evil than Walt.

Most people just don't like the character arc of 'good person becomes bad'. They only want to find evidence they were bad all along. People also hate redemption arcs for the same reason. They say they like it, but they only ever want to see reasons they were 'good all along but forced to do bad'. And the Breaking Bad writers changed the character so that he was bad all along.

but Jesse is an idiot yo

Yeah it was all bullshit, I mean you can tell just from the way he talks to Jesse in season 1-2 that it isn't genuine affection.

I had the chance to work at the firm I cofounded again, with full salary and medical.

Fuck it, I'll make meth "for my family"

bull fucking shit.dfg

he tries to blow his brains out in episode fucking 1 when the cook goes bad and he thinks the cops are coming, and within two episodes he's a killer too. say what you will about walt but the cancer news changed him.

yet he endangered his own family cause of him. Walt is an amazing character desu

The biggest plot hole in a series full of plot holes is that Gus hired Walt at all. He hired MIke to vet everyone, and Mike found out everything about Walt ... except that his Bro in law was a fucking DEA agent. Mike missing that was the first big plothole. Gale was fine and Gus had him waiting in the wings making great meth with no personal issues.

This is why BCS was so much better.

Hey OPm im just wondering why you didn't consider other possibilities like the family issue being just a pretense, or in the spirit of nuance, that the family issue began as sincere, later taking a back seat as Walt became attached to "the game" for a number of reasons, like how it made him feel alive and vital in the face of his mortality, or how gave him a stronger more assertive and independent personal identity which soothed his established feelings of resentment and insecurity

It's genuinely amazing how redditors just take that rant as gospel and instantly accepted that Walt's le ego was to blame. If you have a brain and think about the events for even five seconds you realize that Mike was completely full of shit.

He wanted to do it for his family but his pride and thinking he was being pitied + the mistakes he made in his past kept him from taking Elliot's offer and doing it earnestly. It kept spiraling as he dug himself deeper into the criminal underworld and being a feared drug kingpin gave him such a rush and fed his ego and what little remained of his good intentions took a backseat

how so? He literally killed mike in that very scene cause he was butthurt

Por que no los dos?

Being mad at someone talking shit and blaming you for shit that wasn't your fault doesn't mean things suddenly became his fault.

Mikefags are quite low IQ, they are captivated by his confidence and miss the entire point of his character (that he's a hypocrite who never follows his own advice)

Yeah, he killed two dealers to protect Jesse. Protecting Jesse, his pseudo son, was his downfall.

he is literallly 100% spot on cause they decided that to be walt in S5. Prior to that no

That's called a retcon. Mike's entire argument is just him whining that Walt didn't let them murder him like a good boy.

he needed to make money to support his family after he died of cancer. he could have done so via means other than cooking methamphetamine, but he chose to cook methamphetamine because he was able to be the best methamphetamine cook in the western hemisphere, maybe the world.

he made the money for his family, he chose to do so via cooking meth for his own ego.

Even Gilligan said Mike's having some selective memory there, anon.

, but he chose to cook methamphetamine because he was able to be the best methamphetamine cook in the western hemisphere,

this is not true. He did it cause he thought had very little time retard. Outside your fantasy land it's impossible to garner 70k in a few months

Hey Elliott, can I have $700k?

Wow that was fast

waltuh yer a ticking timebomb tick tock tick tock

ooooooooo my science he's so right and so hecking valid

Bunch of soifaces without a father figure in their life ignoring everything they've seen and just takes the word as gospel.

i feel like you are also leaving out the most important part, which is that he made the money set out to make but kept going anyway

if you dont understand why he wouldn't take the money, you are a literal subhuman

YOU AND YOUR EGO YOUR PRIDE
WE HAD A GOOD THING WALTUH

might the reason have something to do with ego and pride?

If you can't put that emotion aside for your son and unborn daughter, you are a literal subhuman.

He hadn't done it "for his family" since Season 1 when he secretly turned down the job at Gray Matter.

He killed mike because he was a loose end and was looking out for his solid guys whom were currently in the process of ratting them all out.

Like what you posted, it"s not perfect but it's good enough for a show like BB. Walt could ask for money, but he makes a crazy illegal plan instead and goes further and further into an ego trip, it's not what his family wanted, it's not what he should have done, but it made him feel good, considering he's a dead man from the beginning, as shown through his two jobs, shitty wife and retarded son. He never made it so he tries to go out with a bang, but he doesn't know how to do it properly.

you are saying that like ego and pride are bad things. If you dont have beliefs you are not a self conscious person IE human being you fucking retard

muh son and wife

Being respected by your son is worth more than being alive. The show tried to flip this and portrey walter as a cunt but deep down you know he was right .

that's his rationalization but it was literally the spur of the moment

no i am just saying that his ego and pride drove him to do the things he did, hence mikes speech about his ego and pride and ops post about walts motivations

Being respected by your son is worth more than being alive

say no to a clean, well paid job at a firm you co founded to instead become a drug dealer to earn your sons respect

have your pride destroy your family to earn your sons respect

you couldn't have phrased that better? srsly?

This only happened after Walt killed Gus' two drug dealers to protect Jesse.

Yes. As always jesse ruins everything.

>have your pride destroy your family to earn your sons respect

you re acting like he could get that money any other way in that short amount of money. Yes, in hindsight, it's better to go out with a bang but he failed cause his cancer actually shrank. It's why he was so pissed at the end of S2 punching his own reflection.

mike is an ex-cop, that's like literally the biggest moral and ethics contradiction that a character can have.

there's hardly any subtly in a le good guy former cop who flipped 180 to a life of crime. it's supposed to be blatantly ironic but redditors are retarded