one of the most popular franchises in the world
film has 0 cultural impact and is never spoken of again
Even with Crystal Skull people were making fun of the fridge thing and the aliens or saying how much Shia sucked in the role. This has nothing. It disappeared as soon as it left theaters. No one has ever thought about it. This will be the last thread about it on Anon Babble. Gone like smoke. A complete nothing film.
It cost more to make this movie than to make the first three Indy films combined (and thats accounting for inflation)
I like the little stunt thing in Hollywood studios
Didn't some stunt guy die during the making of the chase sequence? I barely see anyone talk about that
It was okay, better than I anticipated it being. Did love them time traveling back to the battle of Syracuse and meeting Archimedes.
But the movie has literally no rewatchability.
I didn't even know it came out. I'm a big Indiana Jones fan, but I wasn't following the franchise at the time. I found out about Dial through a student who wasn't aware there were other IJ films. She watched the movie but couldn't tell me anything about it, which I found odd.
On November 4, a camera operator named Nic Cupac was found dead in his Morocco hotel room; Disney stated that his death was not production-related.[187]
and they looked better
apologize to george
He was restrained by Spielberg back then. It's all thanks to him and Dougie Slocombe.
This will be the last thread about it on Anon Babble
God I wish.
It's just the way things are. Everyone knew this was going to be dog shit after Rise of Skywalker, so why bother?
And then it was immediately drown out by the mountain of other slop content coming out. Proud to say I haven't even pirated it. Some day the mouse will die.
Such is the fate of every single Disney sequel slop. It´s the same thing for Disney Wars. Generic cinematography, bad scripts made by wannabe writers that think they know better than thousands of years of accumulated narrative theory, plots designed to undermine iconic characters in an attempt that doing so would somehow make the new characters look better and, perhaps worst of all, political references to contemporary issues. Nothing kills fantasy and adventure as much as writers that don´t understand how subtext, subtlety and symbolism work.
Meanwhile the original movies, be it Indy or SW are backed by tested storytelling techniques, structures and archetypes. Off course those movies became big, iconic and memorable and off course taking that away would reduce them to nothing. I don´t think that´s all that different to understand.
They waited WAY too long to make this movie, it should have been released in 2018 at the latest to coincide with the 10 year anniversary of Crystal Skull. Speilberg might have been able to direct it back then too, and Ford would have been a bit younger. They were already cracking jokes about how old Harrison Ford was in Crystal Skull. Disney churned out several Star Wars movies before they even made this one Indiana Jones movie. I guess the problem could have been that Harrison Ford could have delayed the project by not liking the script and having it rewritten several times, etc.
Indie4 whilst far from perfect should of been were it ends. Indie gets married, finds out he has a son and becomes dean of the school. Just leave it there.
The dilator of destiny needs to be studied as an example of how you royally fuck up a franchise. No one wanted to see an 80yr old indie that got divorced and had his son die. Nor seeing him be constantly berated by a feminist
I assume that people are either
Didn't like Crystal Skull - not watching this unless it gets really good reviews
Burned out on (Disney) modern tourism - not watching unless blah blah
I'm the latter.
Well that's not sinister at all. OD?
tourism
wokeism
I definitely saw this one, 100%. I remember, they're on a train at the start, and then near the middle there's they're in like a museum, fighting in the museum, and at some point they drive really fast through an arabic city chasing the woman. But I have no recollection whatsoever about how this movie ends, the whole last act is just a haze to me.
the movie had really long action scenes which were just the actors moving around in greenscreen
Didn't like Crystal Skull - not watching this unless it gets really good reviews
I think Dial of Destiny was DOA as soon as it had a mixed/muted response from its Cannes premiere, but it didn't get its theatrical release until an entire month or so after that. It was a bad idea to premiere it like that, the hype evaporated by the time it released.
Saw the first three on TV all the time.
Even watched 4 in theaters.
I had no interest in seeing this one, and didn't even bother to pirate it.
Old Indiana Jones had Sean Connery as the old generation passing the torch and it was basically a perfect blockbuster. The way they did it in new Indy movies was FUBAR and everyone knew it would be. A lot of people didn't want to watch their favourite movie hero get buttfucked further.
Wait, did they explicitly say that his son is dead and he's divorced in the movie? I zoned out so many fucking times I don't remember a
thing
The game was pretty good though.
Son goes to Vietnam
Dies
Marriage falls to pieces
Get divorced
Live life a husk of your former self
Meet feminist
Get told multiple times to return artifacts back to there homeland
Retarded ending were feminist girl brings him back from the past
Ex wife tells drunk miserable indie she forgives him for mutt dying
Roll credits
Harrison Ford- WE DID THIS FOR THE FANS
Indy's life has fallen apart
entire plot is teasing the discovery of time travel and changing ones' history
oopsie it only goes back to one ancient greek battle and ur fucked lol
Fucking ridiculous.
Im a big Indiana Jones fan
What are you like 45? What are you doing on this board gramps
This has nothing. It disappeared as soon as it left theaters
because they reshot the ending, it's pretty much known in the original ending indy fucking dies
the original movie was more woke and political
disney denied this but everyone knows kathleen kennedy made the movie politicial
Why would people want to talk about demoralization slop? Most people don't want to feel demoralized.
Shia Lebouf was supposed to save the franchise
The average age on Anon Babble is 56
It’s Indiana jones but he’s old and sad!
Also here’s some Jewish lesbian who is totally not a Kathleen Kennedy self insert
Also we stuffed the movie full of woke bullshit
Who was this made for? Genuine question.
jesus
because people actually saw crystal skull
Reminder that in the movie they were going to erase Indiana Jones and all of his past adventures from history and replace him with the girlboss, but they chickened out. Apparently that was too much, even for them.
the only thing Lucas did on the first 3 Indy movies was come up with the characters and premise and produce the film. Spielberg directed and someone else wrote it. Lucas doesn't have screen writer credits for any of the indy films
It was a Kathleen Kennedy fantasy piece made for the audience of one person - Kathleen Kennedy.
Nobody thought it would be good and it wasn't even made by Spielberg. The recent game was well received though.
It was good but they sent it out to die on Gaypass, so they can't even recoup costs there either
Indiana Jones
Star Wars
Star Trek
Predator
Terminator
Dr Who
Sandman
The Boys
Preacher
The Dark Tower
LOTR
What's left for them to defile?
Crystal Skull was still a least a work from Spielberg and Lucas and spawned a ton of memes even if it wasn't particularly well received. It's still something you watch and have fun with even if just to laugh at it.
You forgot alien and predator and lotr
Quite a bit older actually. LOL
There making a Goonies sequel that'll be the next one.
Aliens
Diehard
Back to the Future
Tupac gets killed by the FBI
Cupac gets killed by Disney
bros what's going on
Should have been short round (now a professor) going to visit Jones at his retirement party and getting him to go on another adventure (probably some thing like finding Genghis Khan's lost tomb or something else Asiany)
Ford would have played the character more like Sean Connery in Last Crusade instead of doing all the action stuff
If Shia didn't want to return they can just say he's on his honeymoon in hawaii
is brolin going to come back as a war veteran or something?
If Shia didn't want to return
I always thought he didnt return because hollywood blacklisted him, not because he didnt wanted to
nobody wants to see an old man shuffling around. either find a new jones or retire him
Don't forget 007.
As much as Shia LaBeouf is a tool. I wish he still had a role in the series. I can put politics aside to want to see kino. With how much was set up in Crystal skull it feels dumb to just abandon it.
They were already making fun of his age in Last Crusade
With how much was set up in Crystal skull it feels dumb to just abandon it
Seems to be a thing.
Remember Terminator: Genisys?
Not good, but leagues better than what followed.
This perfectly describes my experience with rise of skywalker, things happened. There were scenes. But I have no idea what the plot was. I even tried watching it again later and could not absorb any information about the events of the film. They've succeeded in making a movie so safe and consumable that you can watch it without it even registering in your brain that you are watching a film. Then you're ready for the next movie, just pay the money and have the corporate film jelly just slide right over your brain with no conflict.
Reminder all nu indy is faggot shit.
zoomers are the outsiders here and always will be.
its called emotionlessness. or soullessness. like eating a lollipop for dinner. i sometimes wonder if the people making these movies are as dead inside as their work.
Probably tried to get a Moroccan hooker. And she killed him for his American money
You know shia had a huge falling out with both Spielberg and George?
Kinda why both fucked him over
I didn't even bother with Crystal Skull, and everything I heard about this one made Crystal Skull sound appealing by comparison.
Son goes to Vietnam
Dies
I would believe if they made ANOTHER sequel, and Mutt actually didn't die, only it was falsely reported, and he has an adventure - say "Mutt Williams and the Heart of Darkness" or "Mutt Williams and the Book of Mormon" set in Ethiopia
Movies that were considered trash 20 years ago are basically high art compared to modern slop. Crystal Skull is basically like the Star Wars prequels and it's still enjoyable even with it's flaws.
Crystal Skull is the definitive movie of 2008, which is the first year of the new movie era, which lasted to 2020, and was a major step down from the 90's overflow thru 2007.
Should be Enoch desu
Die Hard
Did you forget about this awful piece of shit? I'm sure Bruce Willis has
How can something that no one's ever seen have cultural impact?
Die Hard
Based
Die Hard Two
didn't see
Die Hard With A Vengence
The Real Two
A Good Day to
I'm sure it has its moments.....
You must have a true appreciation for the cinematic arts to comprehend fully the dynamism and the thematic genius that is Star Wars Episode 9 The Rise Of Skywalker (Theatrical Abridgment)
a good day...
positive things
are you sure you dont mean part 4, live free or die hard
She justified herself by the "Dial of Destiny" - if you are able to understand what was being commented especially with the forgery of the 'Holy Lance' scene, and the de-aged H. Ford; they are all appendices and companions to their respective series, and they do indeed have a special SOVL to them....
They are as confounding as the prequels were, when they were fresh, and they will come to be respected, even as the Hobbit films will come to be generally canonized, as at least as watchable as the LotR films are Re-watchable.... put them on in the background and let the high moments poke out from the mass of whirling images and call out to you and speak to you the wisdom they do indeed contain - it takes a certain tolerance to enjoy any kind of cinema, as per any special kind of fancy wine or cheese - you have to be able to sort through the strange and difficult tastes to get to the real goal of the gems embedded beneath the veneer of odorous flavor.
they really made another movie? Ive been living in a cave I thought that was some AI generated poster
If there are really 5 (five (V)) films in that 'series' whose third film is a script that was retrofitted to meet with it, they should go back and give 1 and 2 special elaborated titles and make them fit the scope of the 'epic'.
What should they be called?
?
?
With a Vengence
Live Free and
A Good Day to
Not using the classic punching sounds was a real deal breaker for me. I'm an autist for that kind of shit.
Maybe the titles could be taken from the later two and made
1 - A Good Day to Die Hard
2 - Live Free and Die Hard
3 - Die Hard With a Vengance
And just rip directly the title screens in fan-edit style to make a proper trilogy. AND make new titles for the later ones?
It doesn't make the series worse, it arguably is a worthy and good companion to 4.
The great sound trick though was having Rolling Stones in the trailer where Beatles are in the actual film - very fun - sets the tone perfectly and the misdirection is also kino
you have to be able to sort through the strange and difficult tastes to get to the real goal of the gems embedded beneath the veneer of odorous flavor
That's a lot of words for:
"this dog shit tastes good, no really your palate just isn't refined like mine "
Wtf... i watched this movie and indont remember any of these people in the mocie that are on the poster
Look at ye, posting A24's 2019 classic The Lighthouse, whose stench of flatulence kept it and the next grand film over (Uncut Gems) out of the Academy Awards.
The fear was that a big splash out the gate would result in miles of hate, and would tank what is a true slow-burn good film.
because they reshot the ending, it's pretty much known in the original ending indy fucking dies
I thought the controversy was that PWB actually REPLACED the Indiana Jones character in the original montage at the end of the film showing her character recreating all his most memorable moments in a highlight reel type thing, i.e. lifting the golden statue and running away from the boulder, etc. Basically it was like an alternate universe type scenario where SHE WAS ACTUALLY THE REAL Indiana Jones all along.
Dial was soulless nostalgiabait created by a committee of hacks with the sole goal of making money. Everything about it is paint-by-numbers, just like the sequel trilogy.
Crystal Skull was the unique vision of an insane man and his director friend. That's why the fridge nuke is memorable when none of the action set pieces in Dial are.
Yes, I heard about that too. I mentioned it here That would have been some truly subversive shit to pull. The balls of steels on these niggas to even pitch such an idea shows how detached they were from peoples expectations. They would have basically demythologised and deconstructed the Indiana Jones character.
A movie is just a staging ground for scenes. It may well take a giant bloated beached whale of a film to extract out of actors but one exceedingly fine piece of character acting dialogue exchanges, that touches the soul.
Episode 7 had it - Finn's fantastic acting in the diner scene, his fear.
Episode 8 had it - Luke and Yoda.
Episode 9 had it - Han and Kylo.
Dial of Destiny's - Multiple flecks of real cinematic gold.
John Williams constantly reusing musical cues from the previous films was awful. He just can't make kino anymore, bros...
youtu.be
dudes like 90 cut him some slack
Skull at least had Spielberg's unique camerawork. Mangold doesn't have the same sensibilities and when he's trying to, he's just imitating a more experienced filmmaker.
The point of the Sequels was (unbeknownst perhaps) to justify the Prequels, which were made to be as extreme and independent of visions as possible
7 had subtle but extremely distinct alien &c designs made to stretch what a Star Wars continuation was supposed to be
8 had great commentary on the prequels once they had been developed with Luke's thoughts on the whole story arc
9 had a flourish with the Kylo helmet, showing that a trilogy is a hard thing to have work, and especially to coordinate, and it takes a real will to polish and polish and polish again what some would say is a turd but is really petrified wood into something good to shelve and take out once in a blue moon to inspect for glimmers.
I liked Crystal Skull
Watching them rumble in the Amazon was kino
This original ending shit makes no sense to me. They bring Saul back and then depict him as a taxi cab driver with too many kids, they depict black women as retards who trust Nazis, and then the other woman is a criminal whp doesn't care for anyone. They are literally attacking their target demographic, so the original ending makes no sense because then it's just saying women are given everything instead of earning it. This film is for no one and further proves that Hollywood deserves to die so that we can get a fresh start.
I don't remember that, but Harrison Ford was 46 during photography of Last Crusade. That's not that old considering for instance they'd been trying to get a new Blade movie off the ground for years already with Mahershala Ali starring and he's was already older back then than Wesley Snipes was in Blade 3: Trinity.
The film is the final in the four installments of post-Lucas companions to his and co's series'. It is the most complex and intelligent of the bunch. It's characterizations are unique subversions of lowest-common-denominator audience expectations you are designed to miss if you don't pay attention.
Salah being there is to justify his re-appearance in Last Crusade, which was a bit fresh for some's liking, and make it flush with the whole set of 5 films; also to give it a breath of life from character expressions that're particular to the film.
Spielberg is not at his finest in 4, and it justifies Mangold's 'Holy Lance forgery' idea to have the fifth film be a parody of its own fact of existence.
Dial was Mangold's finest film.
The thing is you might be a passionate filmmaker or craftsman but ultimately you have to do what the higher-ups tell you (and the shareholders tell them) when working for a big studio. There's been lots of stories where Harvey Weinstein, for instance, would cut his own version of the movie without the director knowing, etc. I imagine that would still happen in a big studio environment with big bucks on the line.
The Hobbit has a bad reputation but is worth a revisit - Weinstein wasn't actually able to ruin it from being a worthy DVD trilogy theatrically - youtube.com
Theatrical Five Armies just feels so unfinished in spite of its narrative bloat that the Extended version is an improvement. That being said, I haven't watched the Hobbit movies outside the Maple Films cut version in years.
That kind of direction is what sets Spielberg apart. Look how the hat on the ground to him putting it on and the guy getting out of the car and the other guys walking past is all done in one fluid reveal motivated by the action on-screen.
The extra dwarf scenes are good, but Gandalf with Radagast's wand looks like a television commercial joke extract and hinders the immersion.
He is a classical director and may be hit or miss with the CGI.
He knows how to polish a stretch shot so that all the in-betweens carry the eye through, almost key shots like keyframes in animation. That's why Kubrick would do so many takes on particular things, it's polish, it is finer details that shine to make the rest of the movie function.
He's considered the king of blocking for a reason.
Indy is two grand statements that are about equally rewatchable.
1 is the trilogy, from Temple thru to Crusade - they are three parts to one greater classic film canon.
2 is the more subdued sequel films, which click together to justify themselves, and while you will be inclined to watch them less overall, there will come a time where you've seen the originals so many times that a fresh take will not offend you, and the finer details you missed in 4 and 5 will show their value.
It extends the lifetime of the original three by restoring them to a freshness that will endure, where it would have appeared as crusty and old films to more and more people without.
He knows that Location is not enough to sell a shot, nor is special effect, nor is done over and over again acting, it is justifying the Location by making it dimensional and not static, not replicable by computer or matte painting, a world you automatically project yourself into, not one you have to fight to believe. Beat down on the one bit of the metal sheet that wrinkles and when it is flat the whole thing will have one shine. Trick the edge of that one object with the fine brush until it looks realer than real - that way it will still look real in 100 years when someone rich wants to buy authentic art from someone with one or two recognized masterpiece paintings.
The photographer's job is not to take pictures, but to stay in picture-taking capacity at a place and time and not miss the picture when it shows itself, to hunt, to catch and kill it and preserve it in formaldehyde for posterity.
That is filmmaking.
movies are in a cultural death spiral. Even if you liked Indy 5 there's a level of ontological knowledge that the movie (all movies) are simply a disposable piece of entertainment.
when they said #TimesUp they meant it
What's the deal with this series?
1 - great
2 - eh
3 - eh
4 - ehh
6 - eh
Is 5 the secretly good one? youtube.com
Is the next trilogy going to be 2 mediocre half-films and then a third to conclude the whole 9 film saga? I wish
Shia is his own worst enemy, shit-talking the movie. He called Spielberg his "sensei", but even he had to pull him aside and tell him it's just a business at the end of the day.
They really should have done a "Sons of Indiana" movie. Would have been better than trying to push the failed politics of 2016.
He was cast to represent the young, and then he acted young in real life, which is not allowable in the presence of curmudgeons.
i havent watched past jp3 and i have no desire to. maybe if this was 15 years ago when i had cable and it was randomly on tv i'd watch the rest.
Put on broadcast network television 2 months after release. I've never seen anything like it.
6 is the one to pick of the bunch if you wanted 1 (one) more
Gamepass doesn't hurt sales for actually successful games even if they put it on there day 1, it's a gigantic cope for games that flopped.
no one saw it
Fortunately it bombed and it's now among the biggest bombs of all time.
Though it would have made money if they didn't go full retard with the budget
acted young
He acted like a fucking retard. He shouldn't need to be told not to shit talk the movie while promoting it.
Buying a copy new is like seeing a movie in theaters
Buying it used is like buying on DVD
Gamepass is cable for games and helps the market digest peculiar items and be better able to share recommends across niches to suit interested players.
lurk moar newfag
he doesnt realize Anon Babble is a virtual retirement home
ngmi
demoralization
it's only demoralization slop to Anon Babble because Anon Babble ultimately is weak-minded
>A Good Day to
I'm sure it has its moments.....
Best part is in the trailer
lmao everybody look at this retard who drinks corked wine
the old films had ties to old mythos and religious mysticism either through christianity or some ooga booga crazy shit which is inherently cool as fuck, watching faces get melted off, hearts ripped out and drinking from jesus' pimp chalice. shit that didnt need explaining because its very well documented and most of us know the stereo types of vengeful gods and crazy cultist savages
the new shit flopped because it was about aliens and time travel which they never explained, didnt make any sense and was irrelevant in the end anyways
Je suis français - I have been drinking wine from the bottle since I was 4 and cannot abide by sugared preservatived boxes any more than the goat's piss you call for beer