Fireflies are retarded and Joel did nothing wrong

Fireflies are retarded and Joel did nothing wrong.

a surgeon THINKS he could possibly create a vaccine

he's a surgeon, not a biochemist so he knows how to operate a brain but doesn't know how to synthesize anything from the brain, surgeons dont do that

if he could, how would he replicate the vaccine?

if he could replicate the vaccine, how would he manifacture it? Does he have a labratory with other scientists who can do that?

if he has a lab and scientists, where would he get enough materials to create enough vaccines?

if he had enough materials to create a shit ton of vaccines, how would he distribute it?

this whole project can take months, possibly years because manpower shortage

even if you couldn't get infected, the infected will still swarm, attack and kill you

vaccine wouldn't change anything, people and communities would still fight over supplies and resources

nothing changes

Fireflies were chasing a pipedream

checked and rekt

yeah, The Last of Us 2 sucked asshole. What's new. Idk why they thought they could adapt a shite game.

Do you actually believe anyone on Anon Babble watches this piece of shit tranny show? We just steal screencaps from twitter and make fun of i.

The elders of zion demand it.

NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST KILL A BUNCH OF ASSHOLES WHO DO DEADLY EXPERIMENTS ON PEOPLE WITH ILL-INFORMED CONSENT!!!!!
YOU JUST HAVE TO LET THEM MURDER YOUR 16 YEAR OLD SURROGATE DAUGHTER ON THE OPERATING TABLE BECAUSE SHE AGREED TO IT BASED ON LIES!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE A PSYCHOPATH FOR PROTECTING YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!

isn't there zero implication in the first game that Ellie knew what they were going to do?

That's exactly the problem, she agreed to a medical procedure without a full understanding of what they were going to do. They told her it would be dangerous, but not that it was guaranteed to kill her. Somehow killing them for that makes Joel the bad guy according to Cuckmann.

She would have agreed to it, pretty sure

that lip

what the fuck

The first game goes as far as to imply that they’ve tried this unsuccessfully before and killed the immune

I dont remember this

expecting cuckmann to write a coherent story

I'm a biotech guy and the doctor's reasoning was retarded af. Good post op. Besides, why would you even need an autopsy or perform a vivisection if the organism is a microbe? You'd just need to sequence the genome or find what antibodies are making the person immune

They also don't pay Joel and leave him for dead. Was he supposed to die like a bitch and let his daughter get dissected according to Neil Drukhariman?

Also FEDRA did nothing wrong

Maybe the best firefly surgeon got his certs from coursera

Why the fuck wouldn't you:

do a blood transfusion to see if it works

get her pregnant and see if the kid is immune

see if her milk has any effect

create fuck loads of blood samples to study and send internationally

try injecting her blood into the infected

etc etc

Why the fuck would you kill an immune person straight away, lmao. It's SO fucking ridiculous.

Fireflies knew the surgery wouldnt work and would kill her. It was all propaganda so they could put on the show of attempting to find a cure.

Or if for some reason it HAS to be a physical sample of her brain, why not biopsy it first? Yeah that has potential complications but holy fuck they jump to slicing her in half immediately.

Because literally the only good thing in the entire franchise are the mind control fungus zombies. It has cool monsters, thats it. Thats the entirety of the positive things in this setting. Story, chracters, everything else is absolute garbage.

The there would be no reason to lie to her

The overgrown and flooded cities are the highlight of the series to me. Especially in TLOU2 where there are massive rivers flowing through the streets. It's completely ridiculous but it looks cool.

Shes a dyke. Theyre all antifa style resistance fighters so getting her pregnant is rape and denial of abortion rights. So ofcourse they went with murder instead.

15 years later STILL defending TLOU1's shitty story and generic characters

Just admit you wanted a sequel to a complete story and are upset that the sequel went a different direction than you wanted

Would've been an excellent plot point if it was some kind of cannibal cult attracting all the immune to sacrifice them, where everybody's faith of a cure was built on a lie for upper class rituals.

It's truly beautiful to look at. It's the only reason I still watch it. I'm alittle mesmerised by the sets and aesthetic.

Biochemistry aside, last time I checked, brain biopsy didn't involve killing the patient. The vaccine plot is accessory to the moral dilemma, don't overthink the scientific part.

There are plenty of post apoc stories with that same sort of nature returns motiff though.

Imagine you're straight but your Kuato is gay and forces you to let him take dicks, wat do

It's in all the audio logs and journal entries laying around.

The death wasn't needed. Could've just been expected to live as a chained up experiment slave. Would've been more 'rape coded' for the intended audience, too, especially if there was a straight white male (nazi) doctor.

Nothing on this scale though. Isn't a lot of it practical effects, too?

I think that's true now but I don't know if it was true in 2013.
Enslaved is the only game that really comes to mind. Crysis 3 too I guess but it came out the same year as TLOU1.

a surgeon THINKS he could possibly create a vaccine

Presumably there were others with the medical skills to create a vaccine and yes, this would have been a long drawn out process but if it worked, it could save humanity.

What I'm not fine with, is Joel lying about it to the girl.

From what I remember, ugly peanut head girl _really_ believed in the Firefly's plan that a vaccine could be developed, so she probably wouldn't believe Joel if he told here they were actually just spitballing and this would have poisoned their relationship. I can understand him doing it, all the more so as there was no expectation she'd ever find out the truth.

The premise of the show is fine, the problem is casting an ugly chick as the star and using the show to shill Lefty propaganda.

Presumably there were others with the medical skills to create a vaccine and yes, this would have been a long drawn out process but if it worked, it could save humanity.

I was gonna make this but they literally say he was the only person in the world who could do it in TLOU2. Like they emphasize it so fucking much that it makes me roll my eyes.

Never heard this before do you have a link

This actually is a complex moral dilemma if you are Jewish.

That's just shitty writing, which abounds in Hollywood nowadays.

don't overthink the scientific part

KEK, the game went as far as making the surgeon notes talk about antigen titers, white blood cells, cerebrospinal fluid, pro-inflammatory cytokines, etc.
Which is why the scientific part matters in the game.
Did they really do none of that in the show?

Anon is misremembering the surgeon's notes.
It is clear they're talking about infected people, not immune people.
thelastofus.fandom.com/wiki/Surgeon's_recorder

talks about immunology

still wants to vivisect a rare subject instead of extracting a blood sample or doing a biopsy

Did the doctors not go to college in this setting?

YOURE TOO WHITE

Kind of interesting that it somehow never came up in conversation as they made their trek across the country. Not that it would have mattered anyway, thr Fireflies were absolutely trying to rip Joel off.

OPEN YOUR ASSSS

YKK is my favorite.

They needed to CGI her lips a bit smaller.

There is no moral dilemma in this situation in the first place.

Should you let some random doctor of questionable credentials murder and dissect your loved one for the greater good despite literally not even knowing what they're doing in the first place?

No, and if he tries it you should kill him. That's the only correct answer in this scenario. The Fireflies did NOTHING to suggest their research was even slightly credible, and wanting to just kill the first immune person they come across shows they're too fucking stupid to do real medical research in the first place. If we're supposed to think Joel is even slightly in the wrong, the entire situation needs to be completely re-written from the ground up.

If you're the kind of worthless, limp dick nigger to sucker punch a guy performing CPR you and all your worthless nigger friends deserve whatever you get. Don't start shit and cry when you get hit back.

The Fireflies did NOTHING to suggest their research was even slightly credible, and wanting to just kill the first immune person they come across shows they're too fucking stupid to do real medical research in the first place.

this, should have bred her to see if it was genetic not immediately jump to brain surgery

I mean, sounds like Joel was just being logical

He was literally paid to traffic her there, logical would've been cashing out the check and washing your hands of other people's business. The fact that Ellie dyked out completely invalidates his sperg out, not to mention getting his head caved in.

Marlene's journal says that the Fireflies would've killed Joel after escorting him out of the facility.

The fact that Ellie dyked out completely invalidates his sperg out

a man who lost his daughter and never got over it can only feel protective and caring toward a young girl around his dead daughter's age if he thinks he might get to fuck her

How retarded can you be?

This is over after this season, right? They aren’t going to try to slopmilk it are they?

They aren’t going to try to slopmilk it are they?

It's Hollyjew baby.

He literally took the job to basically sell her, he's probably killed dozens of kids up to that point

He had a redemptive change of heart and decided to save her. That makes him a good guy in the end.

want to create vaccine

first step is to murder the only person immune to get a brain biopsy for reasons rather than do anything else first

clearly was a cult with a fatal experimentation fetish

Season 3 coming in 2027

The most retarded part is that it is plainly stated that the fungus is not deep in her brain.

Why are you being such a cuck? All foids must die, that doctor is a hero.

Don't start shit and cry when you get hit back

This. Don’t start shit and then cry when the people you wronged come down in paragliders and slaughter you and all your friends and family

I'd kill ellie glady even if she's the savior of earth

Adriaaaaaannnnn

You're just a bigot

Which of the two women talking is saying she'll be a dad? I'm so confused by this screenshot.

The one with the Buzz Lightyear chin.

Why does she look like that?

So is Ellie an FtM now? How is she going to be a dad?

She grows futacock when the fungus grows on her and they form a symbiotic relationship.

Cus they're retarded fucks that want their miracle cure NOW, not years down the line. The fireflies have basically been exterminated so I get the desperation, but they're still retarded.

A woman cannot sire another human so therefore YWMBAD

there is 0 reason to hypothesize that a brain biopsy is the first and best thing to do.

You are being a technician, the majority of people like the creators of the game think the surgeon is the only important person, it's made to you have the suspension of disbelief in these technicians details

All that "thinking" and not one cogent thought.