ANDOR RAPE SCENE

RAPE IS NOW CANON

The rape Sansa it was beautiful

why can't women deal with it? it's just sex bro.

how did you think Anakin was conceived?

Why are you trying really hard to make this a "thing"?

Can't wait for the Wookieepedia entry about it.

Why is this scene supposed to be (((controversial)))? All the grifters in my subs are crying over it. What's the big deal? Leia was tortured by the medical droid.

they have to be outraged about something, thats how they get clicks

as always the legends entry on rape will be better

trying to speed this board back up to being as shit as it was two weeks ago

Can robots rape?

Star Wars is for children

I guess you chuds can thank Disney for once

Shh... Cereal is trying to sleep

Joined the Hall of Rape alongside Kevin Nash, Fran Drescher, Babish the cooking guy and the Joker.

Those fuckers are really quick. The whole kalkite mining plot was already there minutes after the premiere.

They updated Ki Adi Mundi's age within like seconds of him showing up in The Acolyte

Im glad that rape has finally been addressed in the disney tv show set in the space opera wookie universe. Many a night Ive been wondering when are they going to bring up rape in this IP

KWAB

lol

Bix didn't even get raped, just groped.
Leia was probably raped by Jabba though.
That scene with his mom and his gestapo girl was kinda hot

He wasn't crying. He loves his mother but at the same time would love to strangle her to death.
I really wonder what Dedra said to her. Maybe something about ovens and chimneys.

Star Wars is now just womens' typical romance novels and netflix

Testing if banned

off topic post
delete now

Because it's supposed to be an indirect accusation of US border agents raping illegal immigrants.

The rebels are STILL infighting? They all seem like assholes.

What he actually said was that Star Wars was for 12 year olds, and you should never underestimate what a 12 years old knows or can pick up on. Back in the day we all knew and made jokes about "playing twister" with hot actresses as early as ten years old. And everyone's dad had those magazines he barely tried to hide. And besides, they already tried the safe and sanitized kiddyslop with skeleton crew and boba fett's show, and it didn't work. Lesbian witch cults were also a flop. Why not give something straight and based a try for once? Like rape.

I saw you at the wedding...

Childhood is dreaming about X-Wings in space. Adulthood is making a difference in Syril's cubicle

She should've just accepted his offer for dinner. Dumb bitch.

kek

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Is this one of those "no publicity is bad publicity" things? That was the most tame "rape" scene

Were they supposed to be Saw's men? And they were already on Yavin 4?

I could've sworn is was "Deedra" not "Dedra". I think I flipped timelines again

Because SW is supposed to be for puritain kids apparently, lmao

What the fuck did Gilroy mean when he tweeted that everyone has been raped?

Ironic considering how many young boys were sexually awakened by slave Leia

I could have sworn the old copper from Endeavor called her Deedra in S1.

maybe he means we all get raped eventually its just a matter of time?

Why did he scream like that? AAGGGGHHHHH!!!!! AAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

The truth, lol

bunch of andor threads and not a single mention of the imp mechanic at the begging with the FAT DUMPER. thought yall were coomers

Did feel off to be honest. When i hear dark, sexy, violent in the context of Star Wars i'm not thinking "Fuck yeah. Rape."

Unexpected heavy pain. He probably realized that his skull was broken and the coming moments will decide wether he lives or dies.

sounds like it's to socialize office workers into being backstabbing, machiavellian shits, like game of thrones

The one who helped Andor steal the Tie Fighter? She was fat and gross

huh didnt notice, i was staring at her double wide cake the whole time

No, they work for someone called Maya something.
I were going for was the divided we fall, united we stand theme. That is touched upon in both S1 and Rogue One. I do think it was the weakest part of the 3 episodes though.

Next years celebrations will be wild.
Happy new year, happy 3 BBY!
Let's go, Brandor

Maya who?

Women were a mistake.

I appreciate your honesty, anon

Maya hee
Maya ha ha!

I'm trying to forget it, stfu

I haven't even seen a single YouTuber or whatever complain about the rape attempt scene. I think women actually thought that was empowering. It's the male feminists throwing a fit on Twitter

I'm going to be honest. I think she's a failure of a spy.

refused to sleep with an enemy officer

got her friend killed as a result

will inevitably bring devastating fallout to that world

nearly compromised Andor which would have led to the death star evading destruction

missed out on whatever intel the officer would have given

But no. She couldn't commit to the rebel cause. Because it was all about her. It was never about defeating the empire. I'm fine with a random civilian doing that. Even a random rebel. But not a rebel spy. If you choose to take that route, you have to be prepared for the consequences.

An anon brought up the point in one of the threads that got deleted in whatever they doing bringing the site up. That the implication with slave Leia and the Tusken Raiders with Anakin's mother - the difference is this being explicit, but that idea was always there. In Legends in one of those short story collections there is this exchange between Boba Fett and Leia

“Cover yourself. I’m not going to touch you.”

Sex between those not married,” said Fett, “is immoral.”

“Yeah,” said Organa. “So’s rape.”

Fett nodded. “So is rape.”

Why was Plo Koon's Dorin/helium rebreather mask in Luthen's shop?

she's a failure of a spy

But she isn't a spy, lol

this
when I saw her I knew we were in for a good season

Nobody posted scene yet

tv is dead

Anon Babble's been down so the shartyniggers and discord raiders have to force memes twice as hard.
If you hated sneed and the Seth MacFarlanefag before, you're really not gonna like the next few weeks.

i'd really hoped she'd actually get raped and not this "he held my hand i will girlboss him with a shitty wrench now while he extends his head like a fucking dinosaur and makes a sound like one too"

stunningly bad dialogue

genocide epic and cool

NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN HAVE RAPE!

Are you telling me slave leia wasn't raped? He was just chaining her up in a bikini and leading her around with a leash for no reason?

Technically it was only attempted rape

Vocel Fett

Finally he pointed at the thin sheet that covered the bed. “Cover yourself. I’m not going to touch you.”

Organa moved slightly to the side, leaned over and grabbed the sheet and wrapped it around herself and the brief costume Jabba had allowed her, and backed up again into the corner of the room that left her farthest away from Fett. “You’re not?”

Fett shook his head. He sat down in the corner facing hers, moving carefully, and propped his rifle across his knees. He had to move carefully; his knees had been getting worse in recent years. “Sex between those not married,” said Fett, “is immoral.”

“Yeah,” said Organa. “So’s rape.”

Fett nodded. “So is rape.” He sat in what was, for him, a comfortable silence, watching her. She settled down in the opposite corner, being careful of her covering; Fett approved of her modesty, but it did not prevent him from continuing to look at her. He had never so much as held a woman in his arms, Boba Fett, and the desire for a woman came to him less frequently, with the passage of the years; but in Fett’s mind his chastity made him no less a man, and she was worth looking at, still flushed from her struggles, with her dark hair cascading down over the pale sheet.

She adjusted the sheet around herself, pushing herself back into the corner for warmth. “You’re not going to call the guards to take me back to Jabba?”

“And insult Jabba? I don’t think so. He’d feed you to the Rancor, and hold a grudge against me. You can go back in the morning.”

shot down

cockpit ignites

crashes and explodes

Could be any random Kel Dor mask. Pretty sure when Plo Koon got blown up there was nothing left

right off the bat this series feels like it has more comedy, theatrical romance, spaceships and Star Wars stuff everywhere.
and besides the disco in the last scene, all the music has gone from electronic to orchestral now? Terminator 1 -> Terminator 2 levels of OST degradation.

worried the Disney+ Star Wars second season curse strikes again.

not anymore at least considering she not handling the events of the first season sound torture all that well

It was Kino.

Mon Mothma is like my mother. When she realized that Tae was about to be assassinated by the rebellion, she just danced to push away reality.

The better music is definitely noticeable. Disney Star Wars usually has awful music. I actually thought the wedding rave music was pretty good but I'm gay like that

I still can't make new threads

Anon Babble won

more comedy

That was weird. Those thugs playing a round of space stone scissors paper was almost Kenobi levels of cringe.

characters actually getting raped is the sort of thing that flat-out happens in teen dramas aimed at actual teenagers. same with domestic abuse, self-harm, suicide, drug abuse, all that stuff.

how the hell are we at this point where "ooo he was GOING to rape her and she EVEN SAID THE R*** WORD!!!" shocking? it doesn't have to be explicit: he just rips off her clothes, pins her to a bed, she cries, end scene.

reminder that this is Star Wars 'for adults' (you've been tricked again, sorry).

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Yavin 4

Them being on Yavin 4 is just there to try and win over people that want thinks they can recognise - that is not going to win over everyone that disliked or did not watch S1, but there are going to be plenty of people who see things like that and Krennic and respond more positively to the entire show if they were not there. As long as the cameo, references, Easter eggs and so on are restrained or make sense then it should be fine.

for me I want more rape scenes in star wars. I mean why not? We have it once, we can have it a thousand times more

Half the site is unable to post because the jannies didn't fucking learn anything. Be patient.

It's not even worth making a webm of that's why. It's so tame that I'm genuinely confused about all the outrage

test

He's literally me

I don't think them being on Yavin 4 is a memberberry like that though. They're literally going to build their base there

I actually thought the wedding rave music was pretty good but I'm gay like that

nah i agree: i want synths in my science fiction television series. but i don't want it to be diegetic or whatever, just the odd bleeps and bloops on a Moog.

but in three episodes it seems to have reverted to Discount John Williams. there was one scene of the characters stood in their shipping container homer and it came DANGEROUSLY CLOSE to the first few notes of the Star Wars theme. just give me some minimal electronics. incidental music (the acting is solid, i don't need to be told how to feel).

People's Front of Judea vs the Judean People's Front.

fuck knows how real-life guerilla groups managed actual coups and so on. i suppose those are just the successful ones you hear about. if there's a new Puppy Murder Legislation Bill IRL, you'll have seven different grassroots groups fighting amongst themselves to opposite it. then it goes through.

Mon Mothma /drunk/posts confirmed

Ahsoka and Ezra could easily save Andor and Jyn by using the veil of the force when they were sitting on the beach waiting to die.

post it

still having trouble posting, how are you guys able to do so easily?

chandrila, the whole planet is mountains and valleys

Bravo George

nah i'm just trying to see it from their perspective. if this was a kids show, no rape, obviously. if it was a teen's show, sure, that's a serious issue. it's for adults? well it's SO shocking it can't ACTUALLY happen.

of course as always you can show people get beaten and murdered, that's fine. but god forbid someone actually penetrates someone against their consent in a war. that would make the audience uncomfortable. instead, she's going through PTSD/trauma because that's hip at the moment.

one of the most overrated shows I've ever watched.

I waited until now to watch the first season, was told over and over again how this was one of the greatest shows ever!
It's mediocre at best. It's still onions wars. I don't give one single fuck about these characters. The world doesn't feel real. The scale is off. There's hardly any aliens and almost all boring ass humans all of whom are british.
Mediocre story. Cassian is an uninteresting bore of a character.

Season 2 was even worse, the first 2 episodes where he's trapped on that planet with a bunch of hippie kids was a complete waste of time, in fact almost the entire show feels like one massive waste of time to me. I hate being a contrarian about this, but this show is so fucking overrated. It's almost as if it gets unfair praise just because it's slightly better than all the other nu-wars bullshit in existence.

Also, Mon Mothma's entire plotline in both seasons is a complete and utter waste of time bore that you're forced to sit through. Who the fuck praises this shit?

at best this show is a 7/10, you can immediately forget you ever watched it upon finishing it. Yeah, it has some good actors but that's about it, Star Wars as a universe simply sucks and is uninteresting and unserious. If this wasn't a star wars show, if it was its own unique sci-fi story it would be better served.

be me, be slightly bored

I know, I'll go to Reddit and talk about the new eps from Andor Season 2, it's a poor substitute for Anon Babble but any port in a storm

hi fellow nerdlings, so what's the consensus on --

OH GOD THE RAPE WAS JUST LIKE WHAT ICE IS DOING TO POOR MIGRANTS

OH GOD I KNOW I WAS RAPED TOO BY SOMEBODY WITH POWER AND IT'S HAPPENING TO POC AND NON-BINARY PEOPLE ALL THE TIME

OH GOD THE ISB IS RAPING THE ENVIRONMENT JUST LIKE TRUMP IS DOING WITH OUR NATIONAL FORESTS

OH GOD TRUMP THIS OH GOD FASCIST THAT

Yes I'm paraphrasing from memory, but I am not making anything up. Holy fucking shit that place is awful. It's progressive Anon Babble.

O.G. Mon Mothma and Kyle Katarn had this whole situation solved in the first level of Dark Forces.

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I would say it depends on whether or not the show returns to Yavin IV. If not then, even if not the most eye-rolling, it does come across as a memberberry they put in there in response to the lack of popularity of S1.

Trouble how?

I love replaying these bastard universe non-canon games every once in a while. The Dark Forces games are kino of the highest magnitude, Jedi Academy being the best I think.

Also, Mon Mothma's entire plotline in both seasons is a complete and utter waste of time bore that you're forced to sit through. Who the fuck praises this shit?

i like the idea of it but it feels like some of the scenes are out of order? they just keep teleporting from Coruscant to some other place (Chandrila? was that wedding reception atop the mountain they climbed?)

i really can't tell the overall timeline of scenes, and it's bugging me. Andor is in prison for 30+ shifts, is his ex-gf imprisoned for that same duration? i know they've always had hyperdrives, but is going from any planet to any other planet literally instantaneous now? they all just show up on one planet, then another - there's no sense of travel. any time you're not in prison in Star Wars, you can just go to another planet. that was a whole issue in the first Star Wars film (securing transport, which had some downtime, required money, and took a whole crew).

There is nothing, no groping, no undressing, no kissing, no genitals, it's just a fight. It's why it's so funny to see all the grifters acting like there is an actual rape scene in SW, they jumped on the only thing they could out of 3 episodes, lol

Blown up?
He didn't get blown up, the traitorous Jedi scum kamikazeed into a nursery.

That was a widespread fear. S1 seemed to have been what it was due to 1) the lack of interest by higher ups at Lucasfilm as other things were more major and considered prestigious, and 2) a lot of it being worked on by a team based in Britain, meaning it was further outside of the oversight of the higher ups in California. With everything else having finished or burnt up, there attention shifted to Andor that no longer flew under the radar.

i don't like how in Jedi Academy you got the saber right away: it stopped being an FPS (except the prison level which was kino). the in-universe fanboy was annoying. but it was more of a spin-off to Jedi Outcast anyway. they're not exactly 'story' games.

the dynamic music in Dark Forces is super fucking cool to this day, i wish they'd expanded on that instead of just switching to audio files of the John Williams tracks ;_;

lofi hip hop radio beats to get raped to

Yeah, I mean... evil Imperial dude gets grabby and gets slapped, gets *more* grabby and gets conked in the head with a space wrench (several times). It's much ado about nothing. Liberals are like Muslims: they need their hysterical righteous indignation fix several times a day, and like all addicts they'll latch onto anything to get their high.

How much of this season do you think aligns with their original plan? Are they working with what they originally intended to do with 5-seasons and this is compressed, or did they rewrite it all in a different direction?

he LEERS at her. this is basically Schindler's List, except now we have a better understanding of the psychological mechanisms of rape (it's about power, not about sex).

(ignore people who actually get raped: that's third world/poor people problems.)

Mon, my wife left me and I need money

I'm also pretty fucking drunk and stupid bringing this up at your daughter's wedding

so please give me some money

Luthen just offs him for being embarrassing

The decision to compress 5 seasons into 2 was made creatively before they ever started shooting, IIRC.

at best this show is a 7/10

You have to keep in mind, the best SW we got from Disney (Rogue One) is a 5.5 or 6/10, and that was like six years before Andor. I also rewatched S01 last week and it's definitely not as great as I remember but within the context of Disney Wars, it's amazing. Also, it's one of the few shows/movies that treats the Empire as a competent threat so the stakes were more palpable compared to Mando where stormtroopers can't shoot a rock 5 feet away from them.

I think they probably had enough time during Covid to trim the fat on the script. I don't think this thing could have gone for 5 seasons anyway

I must be autistic and a coomer because, my initial thought was he implying that he wanted an affair with Mon and was not asking for money.

5 seasons

this skipped a year and it's 4 BBY. really this should only be 2-3 seasons. write stories to have a beginning and an ending, for fuck's sake. it's not old-timey 24-episode TV any more: you have complete control over it. if it flops and Disney doesn't renew it, fine, Andor just ends.

They should've used a cool STAR WARS word instead of "rape"

"HE TRIED TO DURAGROPE ME"

was told over and over again how this was one of the greatest shows ever!

No one ever said that, retard.
The only thing people said is that it was the best SW show and it's clearly the case (not hard).

I guess I'm spoiled then because this is honestly the only nu-wars content I've consoomed. I know the general plot and scenes of the new movies but avoided them like the plague, and I only watched an episode 2 of the mandalorian before I lost interest in it. Andor is the only thing I've watched fully since I've heard so many good things about it but it's still star wars and it shows.

The concept for this show could be genuinely interesting if it wasn't dealing with the handicap of being star wars.

OI
WAS
ROIPED

What do we think of Syril and Dedra?

It would be worse if they released each episode on a weekly basis like they did with S1. It's better to binge the whole thing when it's released and regard it as one long movie.
Chopping up a movie into 8 - 12 loosely connected parts is what killed Kenobi, Boba and Acolyte. Among other things kek

i got you

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same, kek

Dedra smiling in the mirror deciding on either a black or white uniform for dinner was CUTE

I think they probably had enough time during Covid to trim the fat on the script.

That only goes for S01, Gilroy said the project was on standby during covid and he just redrafted because that's all he could do since he didn't want to shoot with covid restrictions. S02 was pure post-COVID, but also I get the impression it's more Disney. The subplot with Cassian being stranded with retards would have been trimmed if it were in season 1, but having a silly fun subplot, or even the TIE theft in episode 1 is exactly the same as Force Awakens.

I'd say give Rogue One a chance, it's enjoyable despite weaker supporting characters. Also Mando only had a few good episodes in season 1 but even those showed the retarded direction that's typical from Filoni.

I can't believe Brasso got unalived and Bix almost got graped.

he doesn't deserve her

Dedra a cute

SA'd

I thought the same. And I think that is what he implied. Even her husband joked about him having an affair with her. He wanted monetary compensation, especially after witnessing the lush wedding, but he also wanted some sexy time.

Absolutely DRIPPING. I'm glad they didn't pad it out and just have them be together in S2

Are they ourcouple?

Somebody post Dedra's outfit!
Skirt, heels, opaque tights hnnngggg

Wtf I love Imperial spooks now

If you wouldn't, you're a fag

The original plan, seemingly, was 5-seasons. They walked back on that by saying actually we can do it in 2 after all, but it comes across as that being Disney not willing to fund it due to the lack of success of S1 - and this show can't be cheap at all to make.

star wars gets more diverse

galactic rape rate skyrockets

What did Disney mean by this?

Holy cutie

I remember this being posted in a thread before S2.

Not watching season 2. Have too many good memories of season 1. Series won't have any moments as good as Old Lady talking through Busted Droid and having a badass funeral riot on Brick Planet.

Having sex with the enemy is literally the one single thing undercover women are good for.
If she's not spreading her legs then her job would be done better by a man.

Fact.

Chatgpt also came out with these

All this talk about how rape doesn't belong in Star Wars but it turns out the Imperial officer actor just really lost it and they kept the cameras rolling

imperials love illegal aliens

I feel bad for her. She seemed to legitimately like being Imperial but Andor pressured her into betraying her people

That smeg head tried to fraking frell me!

Did they actually show the rape attempt or was it like Star Trek where they just mention it in passing?

Wrong, they made a deal for 2 seasons with Disney.
They were planning ~5 seasons at first, but they didn't want to be locked for years on it, it's why Gilroy rewritten it in the new format.

Andor?! I barely know'er!

HE TRIED TO GLUP MY SHITTO

Have they updated Plo Koon's page about his skull/mask ending up on display in Luthen's antique shop?

Anybody noticed how carefully crafted the racial aspects of the show are?
Starts off with an overweight black woman because they knew that all the chandrillans would be white in the following scenes.
Then the evil empire shows up with white rapists but quickly shifts to a black imperial to fuck with the muh white supremacist empire meme

Why did they have Andor spend the 1st 2 episodes with goofy diverse rebel having an argument only to just fly away?

Showed.

Anon, we saw what she said to her

Theory crying like a bitch that rape could happen in Star Wars has cemented Andor as being based beyond measure. Torturing princesses and vaporizing planets is OK to him, but sexual assault makes things "too human" for him. What a cuck.

this but unironically

they are pretending for social brownie points

It was a fight scene, not a rape scene.

got her friend killed as a result

Nah, that was the guy who couldn't keep it in his pants.

Your Disney+ subscription money hard at work.

Speaking of Krennic, that whole 50s style advert for Ghormon and then the propaganda guys that are stereotypical marketing guys with a sales pitch was pretty great.

Tell me if it's Bix at least so I know if I should watch

I am looking forward to the Pokémon: Detective Pikachu prequel that FINALLY shows us the great PokéWar that led to Lt. Surge's PTSD.

Nah, we didn't hear everything. After "this game ends now" we didn't hear what she said after that when the focus shifted to Syril.

It's just a fight, you basically don't see any sexual acts (like groping) that you would usually see in this kind of scenes. The character is still fully dressed at the end of it, lol.

As per usual, the parts showing the Space Gestapo from the inside are the most engrossing.

First post I saw about the new season was someone making fun of the first character in the first scene being a fat ass mystery meat blob that needs a 15 minute head start before Cassian asks "is that enough?"

Maybe I am misremembering but, when Brasso escaped at the end of S1, wasn't it him, Bix, the droid, and a middle aged black woman? Seems weird the black woman was not accounted.

Maya Pei. Leader of Pei's Brigade. I think they mentioned her once last season when they were listing off different rebel groups and how they don't like each other.

It's Bix. She tried to rape that Imperial officer.

It's weird when Star Wars digs too deep into society. The existence of their propaganda ministry implies that people in SW read the newspaper and watch TV like current day Earth normies, wich is as stupid as the deathsticks in the 90s club. Where is the scifi in that?

Speaking of shitty undercover operations, Mon Mothma's sister is supposed to be like Paris Hilton as far as anyone knows yet she's been sulking throughout a multi-day wedding event.

Pretty sure they have some internet equivalent in something called the holonet.

Just because they all left together doesn't mean they all decided to stay on the same backwater together.

I don't know who that is but your shitty e-celeb is crying for clicks and you are his whale.

Sex between those not married,” said Fett, “is immoral.”

Based Fett

I would participate in the genocide of all non-human species and help extend the influence of an authoritarian intergalactic empire, but I would NEVER rape a hot illegal alien (human).

There must also be lawyers and dentists and accountants in the SW universe. Not everyone can be a Jedi and they have to wagecuck like the rest of us.

Is the new season any good? Should I bother to watch it?

Poor dear is clearly upset that she can't find a husband. This wedding must sting.

Would it be immoral to comfort Mon by taking her behind the space shed and fucking her drunk brains out?

you need to post with pure intentions

arranged marriages are bad!

Why? They usually work out. They're not even hinting these kids have to consummate the marriage or some shit, it's actually suggested the opposite.
Isn't Star Wars meant to have different cultures working together?

census-taking is bad!

This is the second Star Wars thing I've seen that does this (after that Obi-Wan fan film) - do Americans see it as some Orwellian anti-freedom thing, rather than something like the Domesday Book? What's going on there? "It's a census" is like code for "Nazi record-keeping"?

I'd let her rape me, if you know what I mean.

OH NO BROWN LADY WITH THE ATHLETIC BUILD AND NICE FACIAL BONE STRUCTURE PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME BE A HORNY BASTARD AGAINST MY WILL OH NO OH GOD ARRRGGGGGHHH

Anyone have a screenshot of the rave droid? Or maybe boombox droid?

I felt it was weaker than what I was expecting, but not enough to write-off yet. Ask next time they drop 3 episodes, although by that point you risk behind any discussion if you get anything particularly enjoyment out of that.

t. chris gore

I made the same mistake and it was gay as fuck, they really hate my boy Syril for no reason and are seething that he gets to fuck his loving SS gf every night.

I'm going full feminist. This was lazy propaganda and typical of these resistance lib types. They're going to time skip making the whole thing edgelord approved liberal rape scene with no long term consequences for the story. We literally started with Bix having a rape coded nightmare with the torture guy so they already established her as a rape victim coded abuse victim. Then, they have the sinister Nazi asking her out for a date emphasizing the power differential for fascist authority and undocumented workers. Those scenes are already blunt enough. The timeskip means there's literally not going to be any followup because the character will be in the same place as the first episode. If they had to commit to doing it, it would be more interesting to play it like Inglourious Basterds where he's a younger, handsome, more sincere, and clumsy then becomes aggressive when rejected but that would be too complex. It overlaps too much with Cyrill and they basically depict that relationship as positive, ironically. The rapist has to be older to hit every trigger point for the lib feminists and stay constant in his abuse of authority and even then has to escalate further to ensure no one missed the point. From a storytelling standpoint, it's unnecessary. From a feminist perspective, it's unearned. The rape scene is only included as political punishment propaganda so the viewers can vicariously live out trauma and awaken into radicalism. THIS IS WHAT TRUMP IS DOING.

The monotone really hurts the show here when they try to pull the emotional manipulation shit. The show can't bounce back. Andor saving Bix is empty in comparison. There's a total lack of heroism which aligns with the worldview. The show is "serious" and "realistic" so it fundamentally can't be allowed to have Luke Skywalker blowing up the Death Star style emotional climaxes. It's designed to be tiresome.

Will wookiepedia have to make new entries for rape, divorce, and being drunk at weddings?

Is this what lofi is? Is it all that generic? I SWEAR I heard this song somewhere before in some club scene, I thought they just stripped whatever lyrics were out of the real song

Did they have the balls to do full pen at least?

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I just realized that Partagaz is Qyburn from GoT

Would be really funny if there was a special ceremony for divorce.

Her husband joked about it because it's an open secret that Mon's marriage isn't doing well, meanwhile she had been meeting more with her literaly former boyfriend Tay.
Luthen's point was that there is no number, nothing would be enough. He would always have leverage over her, so Luthen did the only thing that would guarantee their security.

How often do the episodes drop?

Are we gonna live react the next three episodes?

Isn't this song just gangster's paradise?

I hate being a contrarian about this

Why? You should only hate the astroturfing that pretends it's better than it is and the slop-guzzling retards who genuinely think it's amazing

Season 2 was even worse, the first 2 episodes where he's trapped on that planet with a bunch of hippie kids was a complete waste of time

Season 1 was like this also, you can skip 1+2 and miss nothing, because anything of plot-relevance gets reintroduced in 3 and later
But yes, the hippies are uniformly poor actors with exaggerated performances, and make the kids from Lord of the Flies look like responsible adults. This is a twofold problem for the show, because a) we know Cassian isn't in any danger, and b) we don't care about any of these idiots so we just want the show to get on with it already
Also the show moves at a glacial pace and most of the actors are old and/or ugly/misshapen (why no, I don't want to see the gigantic obese ass of the rebellion collaborator, thank you very much)
I would like to applaud whoever does the costuming and hairstyling though, they're absolutely wasted on this material

The implications of living in a rape wars universe now?

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Anon, she literally laid out exactly what she wanted his mother to do, and what leverage Dedra had over her to ensure that she does it.

3 episodes every week

I was more disturbed by the sense it seemed like I was watching Rings of Power half the time.
The Andor opening was cool until he settled with those losers on Yavin.
The wheat planet/scenes looked amazing and comfy, not unlike Tatooine.
And the wedding shit was fucking GAY!
It really looked like they hired some disco Droid for the end party, like he was some famouse Droid DJ in the star wars universe.

That's not weird, that's the only part of SW that is good.

Kreegyr's a separatist. Maya-Pei's a neo-republican. The Ghorman front, the Partisan alliance, sectorists, human cultists, galaxy partitionists…they're lost! All of them! Lost! Lost.

the torture guy

His name is Gorst. GORST. Call the gentleman by his Christian name.

The music at the wedding is an in-universe mix of music that already appeared in S1
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3x week for four weeks
so we get four kino movies out of this
each 3 takes place one year closer to RO

damn, they got rid of that "List of sexual references in Star Wars" page. even though it was moved to a Userpage.

fuck you Wookieepedia.

OH HO HO HOOOOO
AH HAH HAH HAAAAHHHH

The black chick was there too but the main group was him, Bix, the droid, and the guy who made an IED because the ISB tortured his dad to death and then dumped his body in the street.

I am curious what the steps were from them being in that riot to them living together.

It's good enough so far.

Wookipedia had an editing war on their page for breasts, with the war being about whether or not to show what was effectively rule34 of a nude Twi'lek.

Stop saying coded you faggot

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Gangster's Paradise is just Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise with 'updated' 'gangsta' lyrics anyway.

andor and bix used to be together

her bf is dead now, and she relies on andor

we don't see her in rogue one

It's possible she becomes his gf again but she's probably dying this season anyway

They mentioned Ghormans before too, huh? I wonder who the Human Cultists are, they sound cool.

Considering they're dumping 3 episode arca with a year time skip a week I'd say it's worth checking out. The whole thing should be over in a month. Just be sure not to give Disney your money to watch it.

i guess it's always been the 'Rebel Alliance' but it's funny how they just settled on 'the Rebellion', like it's some umbrella term rather than a unified movement. when they have uniforms, a logo, presumably now a manifesto, etc.

(i'm sure this was all explained previously but caring about continuity is stupid at this point.)

Neat. Will probably watch it then. Thx friend. :)

I wonder who the Human Cultists are, they sound cool.

They sound like Humans that think the Empire does not go far enough in dealing with non-Humans.

Syril's autism saved this show.
Unironically.

The Ghorman front

Oh ho I missed that. So there IS an active Rebel presence on Ghorman. That's going to get them into trouble someday.

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So which is it with Andor's blaster? Sometimes he has the one from Rogue One and sometimes he has the Kyle Katarn one

They probably fucked in that shed Syril dragged her into after saving her from the mob

I was completely unaware that they were doing this time jump. I am now intrigued.

Those spiders they showed are definitely going to end up killing some people

i remember that page and it was from an official Star Wars art book.
the article had a still of shirtless Anakin from Revenge of the Sith when he wakes up sweating (an actual human actor in a film). if anything, they've only started sexualising topless men even more.
very strange. obviously none of it is porn, whether it's 'sexual' is another matter. it's certainly sexual in the context of the Disney movies/shows. but a painting of an alien character, not even the actress modelling? the fuck?

what do we think of this power couple?

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What did uncle Harlo get up to?

Kind of makes sense since they mentioned earlier issues with them refusing inspections Iran style and then the Empire fabricating them murdering the inspector.

Cybot Galactica manufactured rape droids on the factory world of Affa.

i'm interested to see what they do with these guys (if they do anything at all)

Andor is so fucking weird.

They just made a mature spy film for adults and decided to set it in a blockbuster franchise intended for children

autism couple*

They were great. Incredibly well written scenes even if they seemingly have nothing to do with Andor whatsoever. It was pure fanservice and they knocked it out of the park.

I was suffering from Anon Babble withdrawal, my senses weren't hightened as usual.

There was this clip that got released? leaked? before the first 3 episodes of S2 were even released. youtube.com/watch?v=QFhfnh-ZTRA

unlimited power

i think you misunderstood the Emperor there, Imperial-sama. he didn't mean mine a spider planet for batteries.

Empire's going to use a captured rebel or rebel equipment and stage an anti-imperial attack that "accidentally" kills a bunch of civilians.
Then the ISB cracks down on them and they also have the peoples' support.

I predict they end up dying horribly. This is not a show for people who like the Empire. It's been evil since 1977 and has far too many apologists. I will celebrate their deaths as I celebrate the deaths of the murderers who worked on the death star.

They'll probably do some killing

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Two two-tubes!?

dumped his body in the street

He wasn't dead until they hanged him.

in ANH Luke just says "you know of the rebellion against the Empire?" to C3PO, even then it was kind of nebulous. All he knew at that point was that his buddy Biggs was switching sides (that deleted scene)

Wait, when was this? I know all the ISB scenes from S1 by heart, and I don't recall that at all.

Tony Gilroy isn't even a big Star Wars fan. Some memelord definitely snuck that into the script and he didn't notice

a fun exercise is to imagine if this was an original story/setting (called 'Rebel Moon' or something). this would be getting absolutely slated as boring, repetitive...some REALLY piss-poor acting: the black imperial guy and the moustache double agent delivered lines like they were in a school play.

but it's good 'relatively' because it's a Star Wars thing ¯_(ツ)_/¯

RAPE IS NOW CANON

It's been canon since Phantom Menace when the Midi-chlorians both raped Anakin's mom and the franchise.

Dedra and Syrill get transferred to Scarif. The two hug as Tarkin has the Death Star destroy the research base.

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My main issue with S2 was that pretty much none of the characters had any real drive. They were all dependent on Cassian, who was also thrust into some bullshit on the rendezvous with some random nobodies (who were pretty bad at acting). Cassian, for the most part, had to sit still for the duration of these 3 episodes, which trickled down to Bix and Brasso on the grain planet, and to Luthen who was stuck(?) at the wedding (he didn't have to be there).

This as opposed to S1, where we were following Cassian as he was being hunted, because in the first episode, he killed two police officers. Additionaly, we were also following Syril who was activly persueing Cassian as he was getting closer to catching him. Characters were doing things, there was stakes involved.

First 3 episodes of S2, I don't feel invested in any of the characters situations at all. The only "investment" I had was waiting for Cassian to get off that bullshit planet (which felt terribly contrived how he's gotten in that situation), and the moment Bix gets raped that I was hearing about (nothing happened).

My thoughts throughout the show wasn't "I can't wait to see what happens next", I was thinking "when does this part end". Almost every scene I couldn't care less about.

yeah that's how i took it, but now it's The Rebellion(TM).

sort of like how there's just a Light Side of the Force now. that used to be a video game or fan thing. same with 'BBY' and so on.

THEY DO NOT SHUT UP

Mon Mothma brings up Ghorma being under Imperial trade sanction when she's talking to Perrin. I think you hear two ISB dudes in the background discussing the death of an inspector that kicked off the shipping lanes getting cut off.

No one was raped though.

Elaborate.

Why can't they get the FUCKING blaster sound effects right in nuwars? It drives me up a fucking wall

Ah so. I'll watch that again.

except for Star Wars

Dangerously close to Star Wars main theme

I assumed that was a deliberate nod to the Luke-at-the-Lars-Homestead-looking-at-double-sunset theme because they were on a farm, lol.

It's the thought that counts, anon.

all the chandrillans would be white

You didnt watch the episode lol.

How do we think Syril is going to get dragged back into his obsession with Cassian? Surely that is where his character is going to go?

so what was the implication that made mon mothma drink herself into oblivion?

having le sex with her oldtime nice guy senator friend? or him getting killed? idgi

The Empire's pretty cool, I can't believe it's so rare to ever get to see Imperial main characters that don't defect.
There's a reason people say the highlights of Bad Batch were when Crosshair just did his Imperial duty of slaughtering a village

i like Andor as just some 'shut up' passive observer. he isn't quipping, he is listening but i was so worried they'd do some "heh, just according to keikaku" social engineering shit with these two guerrilla groups.

maybe it'll go that way but i genuinely like him staying quiet, even intentionally so. he's not Luke Skywalker or something. he's doing Rebel shit, but he's also just some guy, you know?

Nothing because they all need to die og Jedha.

thesis, please

Looked like the Tie Avenger had shields

this guy knew all the top rape strats: that means he's raped before.

now we know that a communications disruption can mean only one thing...

directed by (((Ariel Kleiman)))

It was two things. 1) unhappy with her daughter's wedding, and 2) she realised that Luthen was going to have her friend killed.

Wasn't Rebel Moon terrible though?

Not saying Andor is perfect, but I've found it enjoyable to watch. Just weird that its apart of the Star Wars franchise.

The whole thing makes no sense after the prequels came out and it turned out that the evil galactic space empire from the originals was actually just a blip of like 25 years in the story of an eternal Republic. In the originals, it seemed like the Empire was an unshakeable institution that pervaded everywhere, and people considered Jedi powers fake ancient magic, not something that fought in the revolution that toppled the multi-thousand-year Republic just 20 years ago. It definitely doesn't seem like people remember how things used to always be before these Nazis showed up, or that there was a long history of the Republic.

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Can't post images right now but the wedding was directed by Leni Riefenstahl. There was one token ayyo and no pocs.

she couldn't control her teenage daughter who WANTED conservative traditional values, like pretty dresses, sex with her handsome fiancé, and so on.

I wish you were drunk.

and so, failing to indoctrinate her daughter, she gets plastered. after it was established last season she's a light drinker.

it does (they do)

ok so the latter
maybe I'm too mindbroken by porn kek but I unironically thought the implication was that she has to sleep with him considering it was the theme in the parallel plot

Him getting killed to protect her cover. He was her friend but made himself a liability.

I don't know. She's basically Stasi as far as I'm concerned and she's worse than dogshit. He's just a fucking wuss. The "media literacy" of this is that these are not likable people. She happily had Bix tortured endlessly in season 1 and Bix is meant to be your likeable character. Dedra is the fucking bad guy. If it's "like poetry it rhymes" then I'm guessing he'll end up shot in some street somewhere with zero fanfare like the cops in season 1, and Dedra will end up trapped in a room with the torture sounds going off until she goes completely mad. I understand turbo autists can't seem to grasp the concept of evil and good because they were educated by an evil western system with zero spirituality incorporated into their robotic systems. But this IS a show about good and evil. Dedra is evil. Some turbo autists like her because they are bootlickers and she wears boots. But I still predict a horrible end for her and what's his face. If I don't get it I'll know this is just more post-modern "it's all based on your point of view DUDE" bullshit like everything else Hollywood cooks up these days. See Yuri Bezmenov.

Why do TIEs suddenly have hyperdrives and life support now?
The one Kylo Ren stole from the Death Star II had to have that retconned into it as well

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My thesis is here >

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i haven't seen it tbqh. just saying this only works because of the Star Wars stuff, as much as we go on about "zomg was that a heckin REFERENCE?"

i'm enjoying it too but i wouldn't give a fuck about a fictionalized World War II story of disparate mercenaries robbing a bank in Nazi-occupied France, or some shit. in fact a lot of the 'new' Star Wars stuff really doesn't hit the mark for me. Coruscant was better in the prequels (and felt like more than one room plus a bridge).

Rape is no laughing matter anon

yeah there's been alot of Mothma thinking a "rebellion" for her was just going to be moving money around, never thought she or anyone close to her would have to get their hands dirty
that was for other people that she would never need to know about or see up close

That was Andor's adopted dad. Pretty sure the IED guy's dad was dumped in front of a certain building after being tortured to death to send a message.

He's just a fucking wuss

he literally saved her in the end of the last season retard. his character trope is "le wuss and scared of his mama except when it counts"

Not that rare, Solo was an Imperial before he was a smuggler. Crix Madine was Imperial SpecOps before defecting. A solid chunk of named Rebels all used to work for the Empire, even Wedge had an ex-Imperial in his squadron at Endor.

the standard variety doesn't
this is a new advanced prototype that never got made in any significant numbers

But they have not developed winrar and email to send the Death Star plans. Shit makes no sense if you dig too deep.

You are not the only one Though that is more anons thinking, and maybe it was the deliberate subtext the show was going for, he was implying that is what he wanted. Though Mon getting drunk and raving takes place after Luthen all but says they have got to kill him.

Mon Mothma is so fucking hot it’s unreal

Wonder if those stormtroopers hanging outside were gooning thinking about it

Nicholas Britell

Based Succession OST guy

The Kyle Katarn one was in his ship on the planet

Luke's X-Wing in The Empire Strikes Back had a hyperdrive and I think it was always some extra-special one.

Frankly that was a misstep right there: I liked it more when hyperdrives took two people, computing time, and so on. They did this nicely in season 1 but now I guess individual fighters can just do whatever. Andor didn't 'need numbers', Luthen has an actual AI, I don't get it. Wasn't warping around meant to be precise, timely, and dangerous?

Until they epic scene where she cuts her hair short. That actress doesn't look good with the super short Mon Mothma haircut

The Avenger program was Sienar's first attempt at developing what was, in Legends, later the Defender. Nu-Wars fucked it up by making the Defender the pet project of some Force witch instead.

Oh, well, we'd better stop shooting at her now.

Most emails have a file size limit of 10 to 25 MBs. If it bothers you just think that in there subspace or whatever communication there is a limit to the file size you can send and the Death Star plans are greater than that limit.

i just do not understand the scale of star wars. It makes no sense
There's something like hundreds of billions of planets in a given galaxy.
there's at least billions of star systems alone, many of which without planets, the stars are too large / too small or too hot / too cold for anything useful in them.
But there's going to be likely hundreds of millions of systems that have something of value in it.

So why is the empire concerned about some random planets on the outer rim at all? Why would they matter? Oh wait we have our super secret speshul planet that somehow has a super unique and interesting mineral not found anywhere else! What a coincidence! I mean in a galaxy that has pretty much the same stuff everywhere, same elements making the same shit why would there be one planet with one special anything in this universe? The empire doesn't even need planets, whatever raw material resources they need they could just harvest much easier in a vacuum by just FTL some asteroids to a processing center where they are broken up and processed. If this was a real galaxy spanning empire, this is how things would be done. They would send out surveys to unexplored systems to flag any interesting finds after scanning, then send teams in to make them FTL and send them to a destination for processing.

Why would any empire waste time taking the few HABITABLE WORLDS with breathable oxygenated atmosphere, life, oceans, etc. on them, and then strip mining the planets destroying their habitability? It's completely nonsensical. We only do that on Earth because we have no choice, we are working with what resources we can get here because we are trapped on this planet and have no economical way to get to asteroids or other lifeless planets with resources in our own backyard. The empire would never waste time on that shit. God I hate star wars so much, it's the most basic bitch sci-fi premise with no thought put into it, just like how they're concerned about some farmers.

I'd like to hang him. Send a message.

As you wish.

Literal conversation between the blond Imp and Dedra after Bix gets brought in.

Not more than the rest of Disney Wars.

Shit like this only proves Disney doesn´t understands, make or have ever made SW related media. You are free to like it, don´t really care about how shit your taste is, but don´t call it canon.

The fancy new TIEs all have hyperdrives and shields for two reasons. The moral was low when pilots felt expendable, and the rebels mass produced B-Wings, which were absolute beasts in combat against normie TIEs.

It's a prototype

Yeah but she's an unlikable evil Stasi torturer who tortured a woman who maybe kind of knew something about a murderer named Cassian Andor. He's retarded AND a wuss. He's a pathetic simp like you faggots are. She deserved to get beaten to death in that riot and she escaped that fate into a worse one I can only hope.

I think it was always some extra-special one.

All X-Wings have hyperdrives.

You misunderstand my point. I don't mind him being quiet. I mind him doing fuck all for a whole 3 episodes.

conversely i've seen Faye Marsay in quite a few things going back to Fresh Meat, and it's sad to see how clearly approaching-40 she is even with the makeup.

i'm glad she ended up being a decent actor, she's convincing as a ragtag leader in this, but damn ;__;

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If you haven't, and if you are a man of culture, then she is nude in The White Queen. You can find the webms on 4plebs easily enough.

wtf she looks like a younger rhea seehorn

She’s so perfect
What an incredible power couple her and Syril are

Isn't this set before Morgan or whatever the witch's name is presented the Avenger as a prototype? If so then she stole the design?

the Waif from GoT

Nina Gold did some/all of the casting for Andor

she isn't the only one

Technically George Washington was a terrorist.

Are the targets actually on the windscreen or is that just for 'our' benefit? Doesn't it get cracked and shit? It doesn't look all analogue, Andor isn't wearing some weird VR goggles.

I like the bulky tablets with the handles, but some of the Minority Report/augmented reality stuff doesn't quite fit. Those transparent screens went down in one bryar shot in Jedi Outcast.

The fuck? He was a regular military commander.

I look forward to their horrible deaths

I mind him doing fuck all for a whole 3 episodes

What do you mean? He stole a prototype, was able to escape after tons of cool tricks, he ended up on the planet and handled it perfectly waiting for his time to strike, then attack the Empire with his prototype.

based faye poster

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What are the other GOT connections? The only one I can think of is the guy who played Syril's boss was Lord Royce.

No story with galactic proportions and near-instant travel make sense if you think about it logically. The rebels and anyone who wants to join them could just all live on a few deserted planets happily, and the Empire could just let them, because resources are practically infinite.
Mass Effect is the same, for some reason the Quarians can't just choose literally any other planet to live in than the one inhabited by terminator robots, so they have to risk invading it and getting destroyed themselves.

Nah, it doesn't bother me anymore. They solved it rather elegantly in Rogue One. The data casette probably stores thousands of terabytes and can't easily be attached and can only be handled by imperial hardware.

I'd like it if their arc ended with them both being stationed on the Death Star with a slow pan out of them looking out a window like that ending where Robert Pattinson is looking out a window and it pans out showing that he's in one of the World Trade Center buildings.

I'll accept that. Glowies will piss and moan and it will be glorious.

there she's TOO young and i can't believe i'm saying this.

she reminds me of my BPD ex when she hit 30. clearly past her still-living-as-a-teenager prime, but the slight wrinkles and so on, obviously not a 'glamorous older woman' but it's like at some point at 30-35 a lot of women just...age out of looking good. women i know wouldn't call it 'the wall' or whatever, but they're aware and it's miserable.

we should all die at 30. i would have been fine with that tbdesu.

I suppose you clapped when that Skywalker guy blew up the Death Star and killed over a million innocent contractors and military personnel who were merely doing their duty. You make me sick.

During our collective exile I thought I’d check in on Reddit in a desperate attempt to engage people talking about Andor, literally word for word what you said is what the prevailing thought on that shit hole was, I have nine words for you: gay, lame, retarded, Syril is based and your not

Anton Lesser as ISB Major Partagaz is another one Qyburn on GoT

set up to potentially be the next Dr Who companion

instead she's in this, and the next Dr Who companion is the Indian from this

we'll never find out if she managed to 'forgive Dave' and have that 'Thrones marathon' (starring herself) ;__;

I thought I’d check in on Reddit

I had the identical experience. I could not fucking believe it.

Says the faggot who spent time on Reddit

i appreciate your service anons that sounds genuinely annoying.

it's probably worse for them. i can't imagine watching a series like this (or any series, really) and having That Voice in the back of your head the entire time. we used to reserve that kind of thinking for (actual) schizophrenics.

Luke Skywalker was a galactic hero and the destruction of Alderaan was a national tragedy.

It's all pretty cool and neat but makes you wonder why they haven't installed fancy guided laser weapons in every TIE fighter. It's not like this is particularly new technology in their universe, or at least it shouldn't be.

Why didn't the rebels hijack the deathstar and nuke the Emperor's palace?

Can't believe that didn't appear in my thoughts when I posted. Any others, because I don't really know if you can say 3 is a lot when both shows were significantly filmed in the UK.

Watch it, Obi-Wan!

Based and raison d'étatpilled

Verification

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Any more webms, anon?

Morgan presents the Defender 3 years before Yavin, I think, because Thrawn has to vie with Tarkin for funding for the program.

He created billions more jobs though, the Death Star II was probably put on a rushed schedule after the first one's destruction

Basically a pro-empire movement that will commit.... things? What's the plan here?

not off the top of my head, so okay maybe not "alot" but "a few"

I suppose next you'll tell me that General Grievous was a war hero and Obi-Wan was wrong to shoot him dead? I'M BEGINNING TO QUESTION YOUR LOYALTIES CHANCELLOR PALPATINE.

Desperate times call for desperate measures Anon

i appreciate your service anons that sounds genuinely annoying.

It was like a bizarro Anon Babble where the words jew and nigger were swapped out for fascist and bootlicker, shit there were even tards talking about how they wish RapeImp’s death was more painful and drawn out and I’m just thinking “it’s a fictional character in a tv show, why the fuck are you getting this rilled up over something that did not happen?”

pro-empire

KWAB

Gentlemen, it feels like you were never gone. Good first thread for the new Era with updated server software.

false flag attack(s) justifying an imperial crackdown

Anti-Empire movement*

There must be 10,000 if not 100,000 plus people on the Death Star. Getting on the Death Star seems difficult enough, then you have to seize control against that many defenders. The real question is why did not Tarkin not nuke the Emperor's palace and declare himself Emperor.

I lost my patience and actually tried to engage at one point. Boy was that a mistake.

I think Tarkin loved responsibility to a certain extent, but had no ambitions to take over.

thread on autosage, it's over

I have the HDR version and can't be assed to get a nonhdr for webm.

An Imperial I star destroyer apparently has 9,235 officers, 27,850 officers and 9,700 stormtroopers. Death Star seems like it could easily be at or over a million.

Ah, I see. Makes sense.

Whatever. I'm sure nobody over there compared the Empire to communism because for them obviously the empire is America and the Rebels are communists. If that were the case I'd be on your side about Dedra and Cyril. But for me I think the show is about people fighting for the galactic Republic to return to it's roots vs evil Space Communism. So no I wouldn't call Dedra a fascist I'd call her Stasi which is what I did. But Cyril definitely licks her boots and to me cucks deserve execution. The real war between good and evil is the war between Men and Women and we're losing.

Because he was a creature of duty who would rather have hacked his own feet off and eaten them live on the Holonet than disobey a direct order.

You sound like you want everything to be lord of the rings. It's okay to have other stuff.
And just to help your media literacy, if we weren't supposed to empathize with Syril we wouldn't get so many relatable scenes with him. It's clearly not a show about good and evil, but rather a show about how the lines blur during war. This is evidenced by the cutthroat nature of the rebels displayed on numerous occasions.

There's just so much wrong with your rigid view of things that it's exhausting thinking about how to explain it all. Just spend a few more years living life and it'll start to make sense.

an American Anon Babble Anon Babbletard goes on Reddit to post about immigrants and US politics on a fucking Star Wars sub.

Many such cases!

What can go wrong when the Emperor's right hand is standing right next to you? Also Tarkin was probably aware that Palpatine was no ordinary human.

she wants 'useful idiots'.

whether those are manufactured in some way or they find someone.

You don't understand, anon. THE WHOLE FUCKING SUBREDDIT was like that. It was wall to wall liberal agitprop, with zero pushback from the mods.

GYATT

at least in mass effect they try to have wave the explanation by saying that the Quarian's homeworld is incredibly unique and there's not many other planets that are anything like it that the quarians could live on. Still dumb but at least they tried to explain it.

everything I don't like is communism (literal evil)

Americans are still mindbroken. The Empire was always analogous to Nazis, if anything.