If you were Walter would you have accepted Elliot’s job offer? I’m not sure what I’d do
If you were Walter would you have accepted Elliot’s job offer? I’m not sure what I’d do
Yes, of course. I'd swallow my pride/ego and take the job even if it was charity for my wife/kid. But that's not interesting and wouldn't make a good tv show.
take it obviously? really retarded writing, anyone in his position is taking that offer
You wouldn’t feel like a pathetic little bitch?
I wouldn’t take it, retard son, a bitchy wife and a shitty low paying job. What’s to live for
No because I'm not a massive narcissist like Walter is.
really retarded writing
Are you retarded? You watched the entire series and somehow missed a giant chip on Walter's shoulder the size of New Mexico for selling out Grey Matter share? That missing out on this has been living rent free in his mind for decades. And that he would rather beg, steal, and kill than let them help him?
Imagine being too retarded for Breaking Bad writing?
I don't think I would. Everyone keeps treating him like a loser and Skyler guilting/begging them to pay Walt to do nothing just added another layer.
It wasn't the job offer that made him lose it but the straight up offer to paying for treatment. It implies that Elliott thought that his skills were not up to standards after being out of it for so long. They also had agenda to use Walts dead for PR purposes, as they did with the drug abuse grant at the end of the show. Gretchen made clear that there were some unresolved issued on their side too ("you left us! Me! Elliott!"). Paying Walt was business decision so they could virtue signal about graciously helping the original founder.
He was simply done being used.
Once I got the first 10 meth million I would have had them killed.
The smarter move would have been to take the money then still cook meth. He could have just paid it back with interest later for his pussified ego.
I would've built up a criminal empire like Walt did with the express purpose of eventually kidnapping and torturing Elliot and Gretchen.
I would but ultimately my families future is far more important than my ego.
I would have started another company after selling my cut or got another high paying job with big pharma.
really retarded writing
no, you just missed the point
I would have taken the offer but kept being a criminal mastermind on the side
You don’t understand the position Walter is in. Put your self in his shoes, he basically believes he made that company and was forced out of it. It’s worth billions now, and the guy who stole your wife and your company is now offering you a pittance to spare your family some suffering when you did. No? I’m sorry, from Walter’s position (even if it’s not true) Elliot put him in this position in the first place. He’s not going to grovel at his killers feet. Again, you must be in Walter’s perspective, not your nuanced takes that have foresight with the show.
The writing of this show isn't nearly as bad as people say. It's just that most people aren't all that smart and they don't get to meet the special kind of asshole that Walter White is.
Personally I probably would have accepted and brought them down from the inside. Because I'm an especially bitter genius.
But if you didn't imidiatley realize what Vince was trying to say about the scene where Skylar is the waitress then you don't actually know any nerds. And he nailed it again with Charles McGill. If you don't know at least one guy who became a self righteous lawyer did you even take AP English?
Walter was not married to the ugly bitch,the other one
steals wife
get bitchy B choice
have grating existence being belittled by everyone
have lame kids
The more I ponder about this series, it feels like it's just him lashing out at the world for all of the bullying and powerlessness he had dealt with, self inflicted or not.
the real answer is that walt shouldn't have put himself in that position to begin with
like how are you 50 years old and still broke? what the fuck?
imidiatley
Good one, genius
>steals wife
Walter left Gretchen because he was a turbo poorfag who couldn't handle being in high society. He knew he didn't belong.
I was rooting for Walt and Jimmy until the end.
Fuck Jesse
Fuck Chuck
Fuck Howard
this is the truth. he would rather kill innocent people, destroy his family and life than swallow some pride and work a real job. he's a highly qualified chemist who spend years working in a highschool and never bothered applying for different higher paying jobs which he could easily get with his experience. he'd rather let his family starve than work a real, hard day of work.
Walter almost certainly was the one that blew up his participation in grey matter in the first place due to his insane autism
I mean just look at how he acted to his 'colleagues' in his other business venture kek
walt and gretchen have scenes from the past showing something of a relationship
He was a high school chemistry teacher. Name a more embarrassing profession, I dare you
I'd take the no-show paycheck and free medical treatment AND start a meth empire. Then if it blows up in my face, this company I hate will take a big PR hit too.
Janitor on the Internet?
You could always be a janitor. Could you imagine haha? How embarrassing.
I wasnt rooting for anyone. Hank was too stupid to honestly root for.
I said profession, which is to say something you get paid for, but I get your point
This board mostly consists of autists that miss pretty much all subtext, it's interesting to see their perspective sometimes
I spelled it wright then watched Google change it and just didn't bother. But of course the true 199 IQ is the reddit corrector. Why bother with innovation when you can correct spelling mistakes.
kill innocent people
When? You're not one of those people who were stupid enough to believe him when he said "I be the shiz who knocks"
You're all too autistic to understand what it would be like to take a charity job from a friend who ended up with the girl you should have been with instead of your bitch wife who you have no chemistry with. And now you have to spend all your time being friends with both of them just to go back to judgement and shitty hand jobs.
Walt if he Jewish
For like six months until you die of terminal lung cancer. Walt was a prick
killing dozens of people, getting america addicted to meth and ruining your family's life is preferable over feeling "weak" taking a 6-figure salary from an old colleague
do men really?
there is no evidence that he was bullied by elliot, in fact, walter says that when he left grey matter they only had a few patents to its name. He sold his share for 5k willingly.
the idea that elliot just magic'd up a billion dollar business on the back of walter who clearly had basically no involvement is insane. Walter feels like he's owed something because he was in some way involved, very similar to how he thinks he can call the shots with fring, or with mike later, just because he's a cog in the machine. It's genuinely all in his retarded head.
Let's be honest, I am a little bitch, you are a little bitch, we all bitches in here. You don't end up on Anon Babble if you are the personality type that rejects the smart opportunity/charity job in favor of going and selling meth out of an RV.
So we all would happily get on our knees and swallow our pride along with his nerd cock if meant saving our families, because that's the only option we would conceive.
In the BCS finale Walt implies they coerced him out of company, but I don't think you're meant to believe him
If everything went to plan Meth was the better deal. IF he made his money, IF he died from cancer as expected, IF his family was kept out then he would have been fine. The thing is you can't retire from a job like this as you end up being a liability so him having a date where he dies was perfect as it saves them from having to kill him.
Compared to being a high school teacher?
Which is actually perfect for a condescending narcissist like Walt. Every year, a fresh crop of people he’s oh so much smarter than
He didnt even need to become a high school teacher. The shitty cope was that he knocked up Skylar and needed a steady job but that never stopped him from looking for a better job.
Meth never works out for anyone involved. Except maybe the cartel. Too hot, clientelle too shitty. It's toxic garbage.
The profit margins on it are supposed to be shit. Some fucking weed guy was telling me it wasnt worth his time dealing with all that trouble.
I spelled it wright
God this is just a trainwreck
A lot of people try to paint this choice as an unreasonable one, but it really wasn't. In Walt's mind, he just needed to make a fraction of the money he saw on tv to pay off his treatment and leave something for his family. So this seemed way better than working for a man he hates. Was it a good choice? No, it was the bad choice, without a doubt, but that's the point. They spent the season giving the reasons for Walt to make the bad choices which led him into a life of crime.
It's only retroactively made into a moronic, non-sensical decition via season 5 when they turn Walter into a greedy fool because they were forced to make another season.
do the moral thing, have to swallow your pride
cook meth
Choose wisely
>cook meth
Consenting adults want what they want. At least they're getting exactly what they're paying for
I’m just saying he always had the option to do something other than produce a highly addictive, illegal drug. If he was such a genius why couldn’t he figure it out?
i let my devices alter what i say
this is your fault
okay champ
lolbertarian: uuuh it's just consenting adults dude, that's why partnering with a drug kingpin is totally fine
*gets shot in the face*
The ricin wiki has a whole section about BB inspired ricin poisening attempts, including a pro football player lol. I'm sure I read that BB inspired small drug dealers to try and become Gus or Walt.
I wonder if Vince ever regrets making it
Yeah you have no arguement so you fixate on spellcheck errors. Grow up
I always felt like normies should basically not be told about how poisoning people is really easy
BCS finale
You might as well quote ChatGPT, would be as canonical and make as much sense as that shitpile of bad writing and retcons.
I started to launder money for a guy I knew who got all his bank stuff frozen for suspected drug dealing. Made 11k in a few months from that (it was a small business) just because I though Saul Goodman was cool
I'm surprised it's not used more to murder people. It's clean and evidence is easier to hide. The threshold is much lower compared to say, a knife in gut.
I don't know how hard it is to get ricin but you could probably get fentanyl from a dealer and put like 5mg on a waffle or coat a water bottle of someone you dislike and it would be very hard to prove it was you
Yes, 100%
I earned that money fair and square, bitch bastard.
muh pride
Walt was retarded.
the real redpill is that if you don't have any connection to the victim, you'll probably get away with it
people vastly overestimate stupid pigs ability to logically deduce anything
Profit margins are good if you are involved in cooking but ive just never met anyone who it worked out for. Used to go around to pharmacies for a few cooks psuedowhatever. They ended up blowing up the apartment. The guy cooking survived and had scars.
The show portrays it like Walt's chad, more successful best friend who Sklyer wants to fuck is giving him pity money but by all rights, Walt is owed that money. He helped build the company. The fact that he bitches and seethes in the final episose while threatening them both proves the whole thing was am ego trip because he sold his brain matter stock, he should've just taken the money and not funnelled Grade A narcotics into underprivleged communities.
Junkies are scum but the ones who sell the poison deserve death the most.
just finished this episode
Yeah, but why would you want to murder someone you have no connection to? Unless it's a CEO or celebrity but then there's few opportunities to do it.
Now that I think about it, I can't think of a serial killer that used poison.
There are tons of nurses who intentionally kill people with medication, they just don't get caught unless they do it absolutely constantly.
The point of Walt is that after a life of mediocrity, giving up and being a doormat he decided to not accept ANY slights or anything even moderately against what he wants. He was going to die of cancer and said fuck it all, im going to drop the charades and do what ive always wanted and be the best that i know i am
Yeah, but why would you want to murder someone you have no connection to?
yeah exactly, i'm just saying that it's not hard to kill people. most serial killers reveal themselves at some point because they either get lazy or they want to be found to stroke their ego.
i guess a problem with poison as well is that you are relying on your victim willingly consuming it, seems likely that other people could take it as well. i also don't know how hard it is to find various poisons in autopsies, guess if you hide it well enough they might not even check
I'm not even dying and I'd take any job a friend or former friend offered me. I don't care. If he gave me a job as a janitor I'd take it at this point, if the pay was good.
Theres a gray area in my country where nurses are basically allowed to do that. Like to finish off a suffering person with terminal cancer and a death rattle with a strong opioid . I don't really know if it's a gray area but it doesn't seem correct that a nurse can just ask if they can kill you but they do so anyway
And cook meth
No, because he wasn't offering to secure my family's future which was my number 1 priority, and especially not after the false pretenses he went about it.
Elliot insulted Walter to his face with the demeanor that Walter should thanking his lucky stars he has such a 'gracious and generous' friend looking down on him.
Even if there is a connection and evidence, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
It seems much easier to plan and control the parameters of poisoning compared to violence. You don't even have to be present when it happens so if you're not retarded you make sure theres multiple potential suspects. If it happens at work for example.
if they don't get caught how do you know about it retard
You mean like how Walt treats Jesse?
Pretty much. Did you miss the part that Walter looks down on Jesse the entire series, thinking himself superior to him in every way? Jesse is like a pet to be taught and used for most of the series, but then as he started to be closer to a surrogate son, that's when Jesse betrays him. But Walter never believed him his equal.
You missed the point, guy
If I were Walter I'd kill Elliot. None of the "making Meth shit" just go to his house for a "visit" and once the opportunity presented itself I'd kill them both. Probably make a ritual out of it too.
not sure how people can side with Walt when the entire point was that he was given a generous offer and out of spite/pride rejected it
Did I? I thought you were trying to say that Walter is a hypocrite for not wanting his friend of 20+ years to treat him as if he was a degenerate criminal and drug addict, as if there isn't a huge difference in how you should treat a friend versus a stranger you don't know personally.
Cringe
and work for elliot and his big fucking ears, while he screws my ex-gf in the next room? NOPE
If he knew cooking meth would lead to everything that happened he wouldn't have done it. He was naive.
I was rooting for Lalo
It's free money. But if I was literally Walt. With my career behind me and cancer. I would have an ego.
I'd probably try to actually contribute to the company in a positive manner. If- by outreach within the company to High-School age kids and the likes.