Watch old westerns

watch old westerns

recuring motif is Indian Good White Man Bad

I thought woke media was a modern phenomenon

Little big man got it right, book only tho

Watch this one

For some unknown reason, Americans saw redskins as majestic noble savages and regretted having to wage wars against them.
As opposed to Canadians, who saw redskins as violent barbarians they were and rightfully subjected them to near-total extermination.

For some unknown reason

It's because they're all dead. Nobody likes to shit on dead civilizations. That's why normal people don't criticize the jews even if they're racist, criticizing a lil pile of ash is beneath you.

americans

white

slow down there, partner. You're entering high fantasy territory

I am talking about the whole "one with the earth" hippy bullshit that got ascribed to featherheads, as well as the insane narrative of them being peaceful dindunuffins until the evil White man came to steal their land.

plenty of old westerns have Indians as the bad guys

For some unknown reason

For the south, its because the redskins fought on their side in the civil war. For the north, its just classic white guilt.

they were villains for 200 years, really terrifying villains because of what they'd do to you, but for the last 200 years it's been nothing but regret. Not a quick turnaround at all.

This. It's like how this board suddenly acts like Michelle Tratchenberg has always been their #1 waifu just because she's gone.

Woke has existed in every society since the dawn of civilization
It also takes many different forms

The suffragette movement and women's right to vote was a woke movement about using the bible to enact punishments against men for imagined crimes against women
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_purity_movement
instead of BLM and antifa, you had this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Cross_Army
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffragette_bombing_and_arson_campaign

Woke is the concept of "social consciousness," and that society is asleep to something that they need to be awoken to in order to "fix" it.

We liked Indians before they started crying about trash and wanting to cancel Columbus Day and thanksgiving
Now they we hate them
They were cool noble savages before
Now they are bitch ass sissies who own casinos

they were villains for 200 years

for the last 200 years it's been nothing but regret

So which one was it? The US is only 250-something years old.
Also,

regret

The world didn't lose anything of value by having the redskins culled. Next you'll tell me the Aztecs had a fascinating culture and we should mourn their destruction.

1600-1800 they were villains, get a longer memory.

For some unknown reason, Americans saw redskins as majestic noble savages and regretted having to wage wars against them.

No, they didn't. They started fighting back against them, because a lot of redskins were genocidal rapists and murderers. They were always excessively brutal and loved to torture their enemies, including their civilians. The women joined too. That's why a lot of tribes, either because they were more peaceful, or because they were simply losing against the bigger tribe, decided to ally with the whites and fight back against the savages.

we don't regret killing them because of value lost, it's just human nature. They'll never do anything bad ever again, so they're saints compared to real live people.

Based Injuns.

Almost ALL westerns made in the 30s and 40s show Indians as brutal savages or drunk retards

The Big Trail, (1930) John Wayne's debut in a starring role, is pro-indian though.

this is why Blood Meridian is unfilmable along with its impossible to cast a 7ft 400lb albino philosophical genius murderer rapist racist. anyway that book depicts apache and commanche as savages who disembowl, maim, and flay people for fun

John Wayne was a flaming homosexual

break multiple peace treaties because you felt like it

hunts buffalo to near extinction just to starve injuns to death en masse

herd them into "reservations" (concentration camps)

forbid them from hunting or practicing their religions

kidnap their kids, force them into rehabiltation schools and indoctrinate them with western values

continue to massacre them long after the wars were won all because they started dancing

yeah gee I wonder why people were more sympathetic to the indians as time went on
sure some of them were savages, yes they fought each other and weren't all le peaceful, but there's a difference between beating them in a war and outright exterminating them and their culture

raoul walsh the director was based though, he played john wilkes boothe in BOAN

that was just an upsurge of proletarian will. the teeming masses of working-class europe relieved savage tribalists of the land they were unfairly hoarding.

the problem is broad stroking all the indians as one people. they were several different people completely different to one another. most of them stone age savages

You're not watching old OLD westerns

Westerns have been a thing since the invention of cinema. Only post '40s Westerns have natives as victims. The movie Stagecoach from 1939 has natives as wild savages for example.

No, because a lot of us grew up with her.

kino.

The 19th century was the century of romanticizing the West. You think westerns are nostalgic, that's nothing. There used to be thousands of actual cowboys walking around bitching about how the West had fallen and the wilds were no more. Indian romanticism is a big part of that.

old westerns

1960s isn't old, zoomer.

Comanche's deserved it

Westerns were one of the original popular movie genres so they got subverted earlier than the rest too. Silent era and 30s/40s golden era westerns were more in line with the reputation you expected. Shit like Broken Arrow was very controversial at the time it came out.

motte and bailey fallacy

You're a fucking moron

The white settlements didn't magically pop into existence with the declaration of independence, anon

Most of them were already dead due to diseases from contact with explorers /traders before the big settlement waves.

Fallacyfagging would have seemed laughable in the extreme to the people who actually had to deal with those barbarians

Woke has been around since the 60s. Just under different names and agendas.

colonization was inevitable, maybe slavery could've saved them but they never wanted to simply cope and survive in the white man's world. They got what they wanted in the end, death and glory.

It’s because of Rousseau actually.

Elaborate.

Rousseau believed people only do bad things because society makes them do it. So he came up with the idea that savages are the best and most noble people because they’re too primitive to have a real society.
Or something like that.

Don't forget the Delawares, the indians who ride with the company, smashing the other tribes' babies' heads into rocks.

So, same shit that drives the import of millions of turdworlders into the West nowadays?

ynr when Prison Break called out the Jew for their retelling of redskins and whites and was immediately told to wrap up the rest of the series

There’s a very esoteric point you can make where rousseau is technically correct since only within some form of society (even primitive society) do the terms ‘Good’ and ‘Bad’ gain relevance as opposed to in nature where there is no such thing

Injuns were evil and usually started the wars
You aren't entitled to be retarded hunter gatherers on a continent for eternity. Someone was gonna subjugate them if whites didn't.

Lololololol son… meanwhile… in reality

we gave shit reservations out in the middle of fucking Wyoming

we went back in every deal we made with them

their numbers got brought way way fucking down

there is virtually no Indian movement whatsoever in America

AIM hasn’t been big since Russell means

we made them mascots of a million high schools

we mocked them to the nth degree

Meanwhile, in Canada

missing indigenous women is a huge media focus with endless documentaries

indians just fucking block roads all the time lol and it leads to chaos when a trucker wants to pass

mounties are associated with “starlight tours” as is Saskatoon

you’ll run into Indian people fucking everywhere

just a few years ago an Indian guy went on a knife campaign in Canada… fucking unheard of from our bros

”First Nations” is a full-blown political movement to regain land

yes the drummed up sympathy for natives was a sort of proto-woke in the later 1900s. it worked because by that time natives had already completely assimilated with the general populace, and they weren't behaving like savage ghetto niggers. so the average american saw that and felt guilty for what had happened to the old native tribes. though boiling it down to le good and le bad is obviously wrong ignoring a ton of nuance in that entire history, just as the modern woke does with its subjects.

faggot ass janny

Someone didn't watch Searchers or Stagecoach

Childless whore

we

you didn't do anything though did you? you're a fat moron in his mother's basement. a big fat retard who loves taking credit for WW2 and apple pie and inventing the lightbulb. but all you actually create are imageboard posts that make you sound stupid. that's YOUR legacy. 'we' doesn't factor into it.

I thought woke media was a modern phenomenon

Nope!

seethe

I'm more of an SMG fan myself

The Indians were on the Chud side though, helping the Confederacy and staunchly opposing immigration.

I thought conservatives were against illegal immigration?
So what makes media critical of illegal immigrants (whites in America) "woke"?